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HTRFGuy
04-25-2001, 09:51 AM
I am working on a modification to my software to deal with shippers and
require a source of reliable track-to-track pars. Are there any other than
Gordon Pine? With regard to Gordon Pines's pars, I have seen references
to the 'electronic version' but I am at sea where this is available. All
sites that I have found where the 'book' is available make no reference
to the 'electronic' version. My e-mails go unanswered. Are there users
of Gordon Pines's pars on this board who can give me some insight into
their use, do you find them reliable, and availability? What are your views
on relying on the Pine pars to make adjustments to past performance
times of shippers?

I have looked at American Turf Monthly's Track Equalization Chart and
find it lacking. Given their name is American Turf you have to wonder if
these charts pertain only to turf tracks but I don't think so. In any event,
I find many of the values in their chart to be at significant odds with my
data base on track to track adjustments based upon, albeit limited,
observations.

MikeH
04-25-2001, 11:54 AM
Maybe you are ahead of me. but...

Gordon left Cynthia Publishing last year, and now has his own web site, with an e-mail contact: netcapper.com.

Lefty
04-25-2001, 12:14 PM
The pars are now done by Dave Schwartz. The electronic
ver is in a prm called Fastcapper and is sold for at
www.cynpub.com

Dave Schwartz
04-25-2001, 02:29 PM
Actually, we also sell our own version of the pars as well. Our pars include a number of electronic formats and a custom format is possible.

Commercial use demands a special license, but it is negotiable.

http://www.horsestreet.com/products/index.html
(towards the bottom of the page)


Here are a couple of pictures...
http://www.horsestreet.com/products/pars/index.html

ceejay
04-25-2001, 02:52 PM
Dave:

Are the pars that you sell at your site the same as that you sell at Cynthia?

Dave Schwartz
04-25-2001, 04:55 PM
ceejay,

The pars are based upon the same data as those used in the Cynthia Pars but are formatted differently. Our pars come in two booklets:

1. Track/Distance pars - These address how fast the track is, with each call broken down in hundredths of a second.

2. Track/Class Tables - These are numerical class "levels" for each common race description at the track. For example, a $32k clm at SA=105.

In addition, we market our pars in several electronic formats that are easily read by a spreadsheet or other program.


The Cynthia Pars are geared more for the player that wishes to know the par times for individual class levels. Those pars come in:

1. Book form, with each track's pars clustered together in a readable format.

The book has some added advantages in that it contains some "extra stuff" produced by the geniuses at Cynthia Publishing. Things like which distances at which tracks are more hospitable to front running or closing speed.

2. Electronic Form - The electronic pars are limited to Cynthia's proprietery formats: AllInOne, FastCapper and EasyCapper.