RPM Handicappers Giant- Colonel’s Secret

[CheckMark]

Hey horseplayers. Glad to be back on here for a question I have. I would like to send money to the company called RPM Handicappers Giant for the paper and pencil method called “Colonel’s Secret” but I am wondering what you guys think of this system and if you have it can you tell me how it has done for you.? Please respond to this as I am trying. Thanks everyone and good luck today

[Robert Fischer]

2/3 Ts Salt
1/2 Ts Thyme
1/2 Ts Basil
1/3 Ts Oregano
1 Ts Celery salt
1 Ts Black pepper
1 Ts Dried mustard
4 Ts Paprika
2 Ts Garlic salt
1 Ts Ground ginger
3 Ts White pepper

[Vinnie]

2/3 Ts Salt
1/2 Ts Thyme
1/2 Ts Basil
1/3 Ts Oregano
1 Ts Celery salt
1 Ts Black pepper
1 Ts Dried mustard
4 Ts Paprika
2 Ts Garlic salt
1 Ts Ground ginger
3 Ts White pepper


WOW!! That is too hilarious Robert.... :lol:

[Pensacola Pete]

Hey horseplayers. Glad to be back on here for a question I have. I would like to send money to the company called RPM Handicappers Giant for the paper and pencil method called “Colonel’s Secret” but I am wondering what you guys think of this system and if you have it can you tell me how it has done for you.? Please respond to this as I am trying. Thanks everyone and good luck today

Stay away from RPM. The "Colonel's Secret" will deep fry your bankroll. Visit the real Colonel (KFC) instead and save $40+.

[big frank]

are any of there so called systems valid ? i doubt it , but has anyone ever purchased anything from them ?

[thaskalos]

are any of there so called systems valid ? i doubt it , but has anyone ever purchased anything from them ?

I've purchase many systems from RPM, dating back to the late 80s. I even talked to Dave Powers on the phone around that time. The systems advertised there aren't worth the paper that they are printed on. RPM is in the business of selling dreams to the gullible.

[cloud9]

Their best program is Tips . That is a good program .

[steveb]

I've purchase many systems from RPM, dating back to the late 80s. I even talked to Dave Powers on the phone around that time. The systems advertised there aren't worth the paper that they are printed on. RPM is in the business of selling dreams to the gullible.

that infers you were once gullible?

being the idiot i am, i once(many many moons ago)bought a method telling me how to cut my utility bills in half...

hold said bill in left hand.
place scissors in right hand.
...


doubt sytems sellers are any different to that.

[thaskalos]

that infers you were once gullible?


There was a time when I bought every system that sounded promising to me...and it pains me to admit that it took me TOO long to learn my lesson. So, YES...I was once one of the most gullible horseplayers out there. :blush:

[Elliott Sidewater]

I've purchase many systems from RPM, dating back to the late 80s. I even talked to Dave Powers on the phone around that time. The systems advertised there aren't worth the paper that they are printed on. RPM is in the business of selling dreams to the gullible.

Selling dreams to the gullible.....sounds a lot like the two party political system, except the parties are only selling them during the campaigns. The rest of the time they're selling revenge.

[jk3521]

When I get their mailings, I read carefully and sometimes by looking at the pictures of the software, you can kind of tell the way the figs are calculated. One piece of software they were touting had the "amazing new feature "that used the BRIS power ratings as a revolutionary new way of picking contenders . Wow !:lol::faint:

[Tom]

I bought one once from someone - the Two Factor Method.
The very first time I used it, I hit a $50 horse - back when I was making $2.10 an hour part time.

I must have fed the crop of 1975 the rest of that year - never hit another winner.

I did buy the Powerline Method, I think it was called, and it was method where you made a power number for each horse. It actually made sense and I tweaked it a bit to be able to get the winner in the top 4 a good deal of the time. That was in the Golden years when you had fields of 8-9-10 regularly.
There were enough nuggets in there to give me ideas to play around with.

Agree on Tips - Tom Worth stuff was very helpful in my early years.

[headhawg]

I did buy the Powerline Method, I think it was called, and it was method where you made a power number for each horse. It actually made sense and I tweaked it a bit to be able to get the winner in the top 4 a good deal of the time. That was in the Golden years when you had fields of 8-9-10 regularly.I remember that system although I never bought it. Was that what Steve Wolfson's (sp?) software was based on? Didn't he once post 500 plays that showed a profit here several years ago?

When I first got into handicapping I, too, was lured by the systems of RPM hitting 37% winners paying $12 or the ones hitting the $30, $40 or $50 bombs. But I honestly bought some good things like Pandy's Pro Simulcast system in stapled form. Also, the Dan Serra pedigree ratings. This was shortly after Mark Cramer wrote about the Tomlinson's but before they were printed in the DRF. Talk about your golden years of handicapping, especially turf races.

I also bought Worth's Place to Win and Show-a-Profit as well. I also got my copy of the Thomas McCormick book that Thask posted about a couple of years ago. Now that I think about it, I spent a lot of money. RPM always had that promotion -- "Spend $100 and get these useless systems for free." Or "Spend $150 and get the Broken Down Horseplayer software for free. That's a $99 value!" I would read through the new catalogs every time they sent it out looking for the next great system.

I'm not sure if they sell anything worthwhile now, but the Colonel Sanders method doesn't sound promising.

[cordoba]

late-great Colonel Sanders


Im Too Drunk To Taste This Chicken "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D7waFZ6vds

[upthecreek]

Sounds like Tom Ainslie's plus factor #55 found in Complete Guide to TB Racing

[Pensacola Pete]

are any of there so called systems valid ? i doubt it , but has anyone ever purchased anything from them ?

"The Claiming Game" by Steve Collision (pseudonym) is decent, but it's just a book, not a system. Their systems are worthless.


being the idiot i am, i once(many many moons ago)bought a method telling me how to cut my utility bills in half...

hold said bill in left hand.
place scissors in right hand.


Back in the 1930's, an ad appeared in many of the farm journals, For 10 cents, the farmer would learn the secret to stop cows from drooling. Thousands of people sent in their dime. They received a penny post card with the sentence: "Teach your cow to spit."

In 1947, a man placed an ad in the Los Angeles Times and a few other newspapers, stating: "This is your last chance to send me a dollar!" along with a post office box number. Thousands did so... and got absolutely nothing in return, nor was anything promised.

Create an itch and sell the supposed scratch for it. That's RPM's game plan.

And with that, I'll leave you with this riddle, which was used back in the late 1970's to sell a book in The National Enquirer.

The two most common words in that end in "gry" are "hungry" and "angry." Name the third common word in the English language. It's a word with which almost everybody is familiar.

The idea was that if the reader bought the book, he/she would get the answer.

If you can't guess the word and/or don't want to Google for it, here's the answer:

(The third common word in the English language is "language".)

[Harmonicaslim]

I admit to purchasing “Racetrack Millionaire.” I, umm...am not yet a millionaire.”

[Afleet]

I have an old program called common ground, floppy disc (actually the smaller type hard disc-can't remember what they are called), that I would like to use. If someone could reverse engineer it and convert it to use w/DRF classic pps. It is a DOS manual input program. Send me a PM w/price-thanks

[Prof.Factor]

I have an old program called common ground, floppy disc (actually the smaller type hard disc-can't remember what they are called), that I would like to use. If someone could reverse engineer it and convert it to use w/DRF classic pps. It is a DOS manual input program. Send me a PM w/price-thanks

Is it different than this Common Ground?
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/menu_static.cgi?page=menu_commonground
Oh, and those hard discs were called 3 1/2 inch floppys ..... you had it right.Just noticed you had DOS input. I might be able to re-write it. Would need a copy of the files. Do you remember if the floppy was bootable?

[Tom]

I remember that system although I never bought it. Was that what Steve Wolfson's (sp?) software was based on? Didn't he once post 500 plays that showed a profit here several years ago?.

You know, I have that confused. Poweline was Steve, but a different one, that used Beyer numbers and the stretch call position.

The Power Handicapping Quick Selection Methodos what I was thinking of/

[headhawg]

It was Steve Wolson and Power Online that I was thinking of. But you might be right Tom. I want to say there was a Powerline system but I'm not sure.

I wrote a formula for PHQS in EquiSim. I probably have the paper version around here somewhere. I believe that might have been a Dave Power's system. Perhaps PHQS was the quick calculation version of his Power Handicapping method?

[Tom]

Wolson - again you are correct!
You have a better memory about me than I do!
Do you know where my car keys are? :D

[Afleet]

Is it different than this Common Ground?
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/menu_static.cgi?page=menu_commonground
Oh, and those hard discs were called 3 1/2 inch floppys ..... you had it right.Just noticed you had DOS input. I might be able to re-write it. Would need a copy of the files. Do you remember if the floppy was bootable?

They went out of business many years ago-I thought-don't want to break any rules. I still have the instruction manual. Think it was bootable. The manual says its not copy protected. From the DOS prompt a:install-enter. Move to directory CG and type cg to begin. ex: cd c:\cg

tried to download from you link-wouldn't execute. It uses DRF variants so BRIS pps wouldn't work in the original program

[SandyW]

Tips was not bad and Dan Serria pedigree numbers were the best.

[Prof.Factor]

They went out of business many years ago-I thought-don't want to break any rules. I still have the instruction manual. Think it was bootable. The manual says its not copy protected. From the DOS prompt a:install-enter. Move to directory CG and type cg to begin. ex: cd c:\cg

tried to download from you link-wouldn't execute. It uses DRF variants so BRIS pps wouldn't work in the original program

So the floppy is the install and the program runs off the hard drive.
What operating system(s) does it run in? Windows3.1? Win95? DOS 6.0? DOS 5.0?
What operating system do you need it for? Win7? Win10?

[Prof.Factor]

They went out of business many years ago-I thought-don't want to break any rules. I still have the instruction manual. Think it was bootable. The manual says its not copy protected. From the DOS prompt a:install-enter. Move to directory CG and type cg to begin. ex: cd c:\cg

tried to download from you link-wouldn't execute. It uses DRF variants so BRIS pps wouldn't work in the original program

I did download the "CG32v20.exe" file and it does install on a 32bit Windows system without any issues. I installed it on a Win98 machine. It was written for Win3.1 but I'm sure will run in any 32 bit Windows system up to Windows XP. It runs in a Dos window. It looks like it was compiled from QBasic because it has runtime module Brun40.exe in the mix? Don't know if your version is in the same language or not.
You were looking for DRF data to be automated with this?

[Prof.Factor]

This is the version from Bris ...
21590

[Afleet]

So the floppy is the install and the program runs off the hard drive.
What operating system(s) does it run in? Windows3.1? Win95? DOS 6.0? DOS 5.0?
What operating system do you need it for? Win7? Win10?

Manual states: system requirements:
computer 100% IBM-AT compatible 286, 386, or 486, DOS 3.0 or higher

[KyRacer]

Hi Afleet,

I remember the program and was able to find the manual and 2 disc's. Copyright goes back to 1994. It looked like an interesting program for that time with its option tables. I never used it because the files were $5 apiece or $2.50 for Gold club members.

Like Prof.Factor I downloaded the "CG32v20.exe" file from the above link. I tried to install on Windows 10 64 bit computer with the idea of running it in dosbox, but Windows didn't recognize the file and blocked it. I run Windows XP 32 in a virtual window(Vmware Player) and was able to install and open it there.

It uses a datafile with a MT2 extension which Bris doesn't sell anymore. I was able to get an old MT2 sample file and the program loaded it and ran. I wondered if it's file format might be the same as Bris's Single File Format. I change the MT2 extension on the sample file to drf and tried to loaded it into several programs that I have and it loaded and ran just fine. I then took a recent single file formated file and change the drf extension to MT2 and loaded it into the program and it ran ok.

The single file format does have the drf speed and varient ratings in it. The thing it doesn't have is the Bris Class rating for each pace line. The program gives you the choice of using the Bris Class rating, Bris Speed rating or the DRF Speed and varient rating or a combination of any of them. The program recommend the Bris Class rating, but it's not in this file. Probably best to use the Bris Speed rating.

If you want to use the Bris Class rating, then you might try downloading the Multicaps file (mcp). It does contain the Bris Class and Race ratings. Just change the extension from mcp to MT2 and it should probably work. The Multicaps file is more expensive.

Didn't really expect these files to work because there is usually a check-sum number at the end of each line that the program is suppose to look for and won't run without it. This program is so old that it was probably not built into it.

After installing the program on Windows Xp, I was able to copy the CGOL folder and paste it back on my Windows 10 computer. I was then able to get it to run in Dosbox but haven't taken the time to set it all up. You will also need to add some new tracks and Best Times to the tables in the program and set preferences. Hope this works for you.

[headhawg]

Now that is what I call a helpful post. Nice job KyRacer.

[timtam]

I too purchased many systems from RPM. Back in 2014 I bought a system and I thought it looked familiar. The advertising was new but I kept remembering certain things looked the same so low and behold it was the exact same system I bought in the late 80's. I did get a refund but am leary ever since.

Also another thing that's happening is they are taking they're old paper and pencil methods and putting them into software and selling them as brand new
systems. Actually some are so simple you can figure them out by hand faster than downloading and running the program.

What I do now when I get a " new system " flyer is check the examples and you
can actually get a good idea of what they are doing by comparing the program
data and if you have the pp's you can system detect what the jist of the system is trying to give you. It saves a lot of money and actually you can learn
a new angle or two but nothing to make you rich.

One of the worst things I detected was they were selling a system advertised as
brand new and it was in Making Money at the Races by Mike Barr ( I think that
was the correct title) which was originally put out in the late 50's.

On a positive side they do offer refunds and I've called them plenty of times in my younger days and they always honored refunds and were very cordial on the
phone. If your looking for different ways to look at a race some of their products are ok but it will never make money over the long haul.

[Pensacola Pete]

Steve Wolson had a booklet called Power Numbers. I don't know if he ever put it into his software.

[Afleet]

Hi Afleet,

I remember the program and was able to find the manual and 2 disc's. Copyright goes back to 1994. It looked like an interesting program for that time with its option tables. I never used it because the files were $5 apiece or $2.50 for Gold club members.

Like Prof.Factor I downloaded the "CG32v20.exe" file from the above link. I tried to install on Windows 10 64 bit computer with the idea of running it in dosbox, but Windows didn't recognize the file and blocked it. I run Windows XP 32 in a virtual window(Vmware Player) and was able to install and open it there.

It uses a datafile with a MT2 extension which Bris doesn't sell anymore. I was able to get an old MT2 sample file and the program loaded it and ran. I wondered if it's file format might be the same as Bris's Single File Format. I change the MT2 extension on the sample file to drf and tried to loaded it into several programs that I have and it loaded and ran just fine. I then took a recent single file formated file and change the drf extension to MT2 and loaded it into the program and it ran ok.

The single file format does have the drf speed and varient ratings in it. The thing it doesn't have is the Bris Class rating for each pace line. The program gives you the choice of using the Bris Class rating, Bris Speed rating or the DRF Speed and varient rating or a combination of any of them. The program recommend the Bris Class rating, but it's not in this file. Probably best to use the Bris Speed rating.

If you want to use the Bris Class rating, then you might try downloading the Multicaps file (mcp). It does contain the Bris Class and Race ratings. Just change the extension from mcp to MT2 and it should probably work. The Multicaps file is more expensive.

Didn't really expect these files to work because there is usually a check-sum number at the end of each line that the program is suppose to look for and won't run without it. This program is so old that it was probably not built into it.

After installing the program on Windows Xp, I was able to copy the CGOL folder and paste it back on my Windows 10 computer. I was then able to get it to run in Dosbox but haven't taken the time to set it all up. You will also need to add some new tracks and Best Times to the tables in the program and set preferences. Hope this works for you.

Thanks for the help!