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Fuss
03-04-2018, 11:25 AM
Yesterday's WPS pools were hard to follow. There were some excellent place and show prices. I thought we might have had a recurring or multiple bridge jumpers. There were price horses there, but also saw 7-1's paying 9/2 and 5/2 underneath.

Early races had $200K WPS pools, Race 7 had $503K, Race 8 was a stakes but it jumped to $749K and it peaked on the national stakes, $1.3M.

Gulfstream voluntarily announced an across the board 10% hike in Purses for the rest of the meet. Handle is up 9%.

The racing has been excellent. Full fields, great jockey colony. Yesterday a Jimmy Jerkens horse, John Velezaquez riding, pays $24.20. Where else do you ever get Jerkens/Velzquez paying $24.00!.
Stole it with soft fractions like the hall of fame rider he is. Fun to watch.

They are having some issue with the Turf. Last week they had to go OFF Turf late in the day, beautiful 80 degree day, because the turf is beat up badly.

You can see craploads of dirt and dust kicking up on the turns. Its a half turf half dirt race, and disadvantage to horse who prefer a deep soft turf.

All in all. Excellent.

CincyHorseplayer
03-04-2018, 12:57 PM
Yesterday's WPS pools were hard to follow. There were some excellent place and show prices. I thought we might have had a recurring or multiple bridge jumpers. There were price horses there, but also saw 7-1's paying 9/2 and 5/2 underneath.

Early races had $200K WPS pools, Race 7 had $503K, Race 8 was a stakes but it jumped to $749K and it peaked on the national stakes, $1.3M.

Gulfstream voluntarily announced an across the board 10% hike in Purses for the rest of the meet. Handle is up 9%.

The racing has been excellent. Full fields, great jockey colony. Yesterday a Jimmy Jerkens horse, John Velezaquez riding, pays $24.20. Where else do you ever get Jerkens/Velzquez paying $24.00!.
Stole it with soft fractions like the hall of fame rider he is. Fun to watch.

They are having some issue with the Turf. Last week they had to go OFF Turf late in the day, beautiful 80 degree day, because the turf is beat up badly.

You can see craploads of dirt and dust kicking up on the turns. Its a half turf half dirt race, and disadvantage to horse who prefer a deep soft turf.

All in all. Excellent.

They need to stop racing on the turf course for at least 6 months after this meet.

Tom
03-04-2018, 03:23 PM
They need to buy a timer and act like a major league track.

Fuss
03-05-2018, 04:14 PM
They need to buy a timer and act like a major league track.


Yes, I know and agree. Last month I was following CJ's thread on the problem He's 100% right. I wasn't entirely sure why he was getting so much push back. He's as right as right can be. For him its crucial to his play and profession. I get that. For me its sun, fun and leaving with more money than I started with.

Tom
03-05-2018, 05:18 PM
That is all that counts - what you want fro the game. :ThmbUp:

pandy
03-06-2018, 07:45 AM
Considering the current state of racing, Gulfstream is certainly doing great business and has huge pools. I do think they made a mistake racing on turf every day prior to this meeting, and they do have to get the timing correct. Personally, I hate "about distances" or any turf races where the timing is off.

CincyHorseplayer
03-06-2018, 07:53 AM
Considering the current state of racing, Gulfstream is certainly doing great business and has huge pools. I do think they made a mistake racing on turf every day prior to this meeting, and they do have to get the timing correct. Personally, I hate "about distances" or any turf races where the timing is off.

I have done well at Gulfstream this year. I do know that some of the figures I'm looking at on turf are suspect though. All in all I enjoy this meet.

windstone
03-06-2018, 11:05 AM
when is the last day for the current .20 p-6 if not hit before??

PaceAdvantage
03-06-2018, 12:11 PM
Considering the current state of racing, Gulfstream is certainly doing great business and has huge pools.That's because they absolutely cater to, and bend over backwards for, the "CRW Teams."

Which is one of the reasons they probably leave the betting windows open for 5-10 minutes past the 0mtp mark (that and just plain greed). You ever wonder why they are one of the WORST tracks in this regard?

A bunch of others are following suit, but not to the extreme that Gulfstream does...it's pathetic how they don't adhere to their MTP clock.

NYRA, on the other hand, gets off their races with military precision, by comparison. They are rarely off more than 1-2 minutes beyond 0mtp. It's quite impressive.

GMB@BP
03-06-2018, 12:22 PM
That's because they absolutely cater to, and bend over backwards for, the "CRW Teams."

Which is one of the reasons they probably leave the betting windows open for 5-10 minutes past the 0mtp mark (that and just plain greed). You ever wonder why they are one of the WORST tracks in this regard?

A bunch of others are following suit, but not to the extreme that Gulfstream does...it's pathetic how they don't adhere to their MTP clock.

NYRA, on the other hand, gets off their races with military precision, by comparison. They are rarely off more than 1-2 minutes beyond 0mtp. It's quite impressive.

I have noticed Santa Anita, which was always great about running on time, creeping up the delays.

No shock that the guy who ran GP that last few years is now at SA.

PaceAdvantage
03-06-2018, 12:32 PM
I have noticed Santa Anita, which was always great about running on time, creeping up the delays.

No shock that the guy who ran GP that last few years is now at SA.True that.

jay68802
03-06-2018, 12:46 PM
One other observation is that it seems to me that lately GS and Santa Anita have been starting races very close to the same time as Oaklawn.

SG4
03-06-2018, 04:11 PM
Anyone know why no Gulfstream entries up for Friday yet? Condition book says entries were to be taken on Mar 4th.

Tom
03-06-2018, 04:43 PM
Anyone know why no Gulfstream entries up for Friday yet? Condition book says entries were to be taken on Mar 4th.

Today is the 3rd on their calendar! :rolleyes::bang:

therussmeister
03-06-2018, 05:04 PM
Considering the current state of racing, Gulfstream is certainly doing great business and has huge pools. I do think they made a mistake racing on turf every day prior to this meeting, and they do have to get the timing correct. Personally, I hate "about distances" or any turf races where the timing is off.

Gulfstream takes two months off prior to this meet.

cj
03-06-2018, 05:07 PM
Gulfstream takes two months off prior to this meet.

I think most think of this meet as the one that begins after New Year's Day no matter what Gulfstream calls them.

JerryBoyle
03-06-2018, 05:54 PM
That's because they absolutely cater to, and bend over backwards for, the "CRW Teams."

Which is one of the reasons they probably leave the betting windows open for 5-10 minutes past the 0mtp mark (that and just plain greed). You ever wonder why they are one of the WORST tracks in this regard?

A bunch of others are following suit, but not to the extreme that Gulfstream does...it's pathetic how they don't adhere to their MTP clock.

NYRA, on the other hand, gets off their races with military precision, by comparison. They are rarely off more than 1-2 minutes beyond 0mtp. It's quite impressive.

Is this true? As far as I'm aware there are little to no rebates at GP, and wouldn't leaving the betting window open past post time be a problem for CRW teams?

Having run an automated system, the only way that I can think of to account for races not starting at 0 mtp would be having someone watch the horses going in to the gate. Even if you do have a dedicated person to do this (which would suck because A you'd have to pay them and B it's no longer a truly automated system), you'd need the status of the wagering pool at these times for backtesting - that is, the time when the human would press the "the horses are at the gate button". Personally, considering an automated system that might be used by a CRW team, I'd prefer tracks loading runners as close to 0mtp as possible.

Pigpen
03-06-2018, 08:38 PM
what is a crw team?

davew
03-06-2018, 11:06 PM
what is a crw team?

computer robotic wagering

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/i-robot-the-future-of-horse-race-wagering/

cj
03-07-2018, 01:12 AM
Is this true? As far as I'm aware there are little to no rebates at GP, and wouldn't leaving the betting window open past post time be a problem for CRW teams?

Having run an automated system, the only way that I can think of to account for races not starting at 0 mtp would be having someone watch the horses going in to the gate. Even if you do have a dedicated person to do this (which would suck because A you'd have to pay them and B it's no longer a truly automated system), you'd need the status of the wagering pool at these times for backtesting - that is, the time when the human would press the "the horses are at the gate button". Personally, considering an automated system that might be used by a CRW team, I'd prefer tracks loading runners as close to 0mtp as possible.

Big rebates are available for Gulfstream bettors, the very big ones...like CRW types.

CincyHorseplayer
03-07-2018, 01:33 AM
The original poster said they were having a good and profitable time. Bearing down with truth. I guess they need to know. I guess our activism in our realm has become preaching the apocalypse.

Hey original poster. Win!

Fuss
03-09-2018, 07:17 PM
They'll get over intoxicated on Fly So High, the Phipps/McGaughey Filly n the 8th at Gulfstream tomorrow. . Fly So High #8.
Bad foot, phony.
She probably 2/5. She not a miler either. She has a bad foot too. Ortiz has no choice to ride.



#1 Sultry in the 8th.

#2 Sunny Skies looks live.


McGaughey at Aqueduct and Tampa tomorrow but not here @ Gulfstream.

NJ Stinks
03-11-2018, 12:49 AM
No fussing over last week's Davona Dale! ;)

PhantomOnTour
03-11-2018, 04:19 PM
Their turf course is in pathetic shape

Tom
03-11-2018, 08:11 PM
Aqueduct's outer looks better than GP's course! :eek:

onefast99
03-12-2018, 06:01 PM
Aqueduct's outer looks better than GP's course! :eek:
looks as if they found some magic seeds, the grass is growing right under your feet...