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jocko699
02-23-2018, 11:49 PM
1.25 million firster goes tomorrow in race 1 at SA for Baffert. BB is sending him out at a mile and an eighth on the turf for his first race. Should be interesting.

GMB@BP
02-24-2018, 10:09 AM
1.25 million firster goes tomorrow in race 1 at SA for Baffert. BB is sending him out at a mile and an eighth on the turf for his first race. Should be interesting.

been watching baffert send mdns out a long time, 20+ years, get ever recall one being sent long on the turf for a debut... I mean I am sure its happened but its gotta be rare. I would imagine this horse cant run a lick or is just complete plodder and needs like a mile and half.

RunForTheRoses
02-24-2018, 10:37 AM
1.25 million firster goes tomorrow in race 1 at SA for Baffert. BB is sending him out at a mile and an eighth on the turf for his first race. Should be interesting.

Thanks for the heads up, will observe, haven't handicapped today at all, wonder what the breeding is...just took a look on Whobet. Tapit's love the turf and first out. DVD up.

Bennie
02-24-2018, 10:57 AM
Not exactly world beaters in this race. He may be good enough first time out but would want fair odds. I am looking at the 9, second race after blinks off but would not hesitate using Bafferts FTS in some wagers.

RunForTheRoses
02-24-2018, 11:12 AM
Not exactly world beaters in this race. He may be good enough first time out but would want fair odds. I am looking at the 9, second race after blinks off but would not hesitate using Bafferts FTS in some wagers.

Yes, the 9 is extremely well bred too and $500K is a nice chunk of change. The 1 intrigues as this is another well bred horse, Wygods, and trainer does well with this move.

RunForTheRoses
02-24-2018, 04:25 PM
They are betting the shit out of 1 1 2 3...I through the 4 out on the P5, not a great sequence, shouldn't have but can't help myself. Hope the :1: wins.

Secondbest
02-24-2018, 04:37 PM
The 5 as 6/5 chalk won easy as you all saw.The 4 showed nothing.

Lemon Drop Husker
02-24-2018, 04:39 PM
been watching baffert send mdns out a long time, 20+ years, get ever recall one being sent long on the turf for a debut... I mean I am sure its happened but its gotta be rare. I would imagine this horse cant run a lick or is just complete plodder and needs like a mile and half.

Ha. My exact thoughts as well.

Tapit on top, Tiznow on bottom and he gets sent 1st out long on turf. His works looked good on paper, but obviously weren't.

RunForTheRoses
02-24-2018, 04:39 PM
The 5 as 6/5 chalk won easy as you all saw.The 4 showed nothing.

Yeah, 20K purchase. Baltas does some real good work.

SG4
02-25-2018, 11:22 PM
Yeah, 20K purchase. Baltas does some real good work.

Added a partner in LNJ Foxwoods before this race, wonder how much their purchase valued this horse at since they're certainly not averse to opening the pocketbook. Whatever it was, have to think that win made them feel it was worth it, think this horse jumps right near the top of California based 3yo's on the turf right now.

jocko699
02-25-2018, 11:32 PM
Added a partner in LNJ Foxwoods before this race, wonder how much their purchase valued this horse at since they're certainly not averse to opening the pocketbook. Whatever it was, have to think that win made them feel it was worth it, think this horse jumps right near the top of California based 3yo's on the turf right now.

Although the final 8th was very nice I think this may turn out to be a weak maiden field. Going to have to step way up in the future to compete in graded turf races for 3-year olds.

SG4
02-26-2018, 04:36 PM
Although the final 8th was very nice I think this may turn out to be a weak maiden field. Going to have to step way up in the future to compete in graded turf races for 3-year olds.

I don't mean this in a snarky way at all, but can you point me to a turf race in California for this year's crop of colts which wasn't a weak field? I honestly can't remember a single event going back to the 2yo season where I thought a strong field was involved, would like to hear if you have a difference of opinion. The Inscom/Pubilius Syrus matchup back in Sept was notable for the top 2, but nothing much doing behind them.

Spalding No!
02-26-2018, 06:13 PM
I don't mean this in a snarky way at all, but can you point me to a turf race in California for this year's crop of colts which wasn't a weak field? I honestly can't remember a single event going back to the 2yo season where I thought a strong field was involved, would like to hear if you have a difference of opinion. The Inscom/Pubilius Syrus matchup back in Sept was notable for the top 2, but nothing much doing behind them.

The 3yo turf division in SoCal is starting to pile up with good prospects. In addition to the aforementioned Pubilius Syrus and Inscom, there is River Boyne who has romped in two straight starts, the Baffert duo of Masked (2 hillside wins) and Heck Yeah (a Cal-bred stakes winner on both turf and dirt), as well as current Derby prospect My Boy Jack (who's best work prior to the sloppy Southwest came on the grass) and Hollendorfer-trained Choo Choo (who has been expirementing up north on the synthetic to modest success). Doug O'Neill has Blended Citizen, who has not tried turf since beating River Boyne in a maiden race and Croissant, who demolished a hillside Cal-bred maiden a couple of weeks ago.

At the national level, they all have a few lengths to find on the Chad Brown runner that crushed at Del Mar in November.

jocko699
02-26-2018, 07:29 PM
The 3yo turf division in SoCal is starting to pile up with good prospects. In addition to the aforementioned Pubilius Syrus and Inscom, there is River Boyne who has romped in two straight starts, the Baffert duo of Masked (2 hillside wins) and Heck Yeah (a Cal-bred stakes winner on both turf and dirt), as well as current Derby prospect My Boy Jack (who's best work prior to the sloppy Southwest came on the grass) and Hollendorfer-trained Choo Choo (who has been expirementing up north on the synthetic to modest success). Doug O'Neill has Blended Citizen, who has not tried turf since beating River Boyne in a maiden race and Croissant, who demolished a hillside Cal-bred maiden a couple of weeks ago.

At the national level, they all have a few lengths to find on the Chad Brown runner that crushed at Del Mar in November.

Sorry I didn't get back. Completely agree with Spalding. I am not saying he can't get in there but all those Spalding listed, especially River Boyne, plus some others means he has to improve.

SG4
02-26-2018, 11:12 PM
The 3yo turf division in SoCal is starting to pile up with good prospects. In addition to the aforementioned Pubilius Syrus and Inscom, there is River Boyne who has romped in two straight starts, the Baffert duo of Masked (2 hillside wins) and Heck Yeah (a Cal-bred stakes winner on both turf and dirt), as well as current Derby prospect My Boy Jack (who's best work prior to the sloppy Southwest came on the grass) and Hollendorfer-trained Choo Choo (who has been expirementing up north on the synthetic to modest success). Doug O'Neill has Blended Citizen, who has not tried turf since beating River Boyne in a maiden race and Croissant, who demolished a hillside Cal-bred maiden a couple of weeks ago.

At the national level, they all have a few lengths to find on the Chad Brown runner that crushed at Del Mar in November.

Hopefully all the aforementioned line up on Mar 17th in the Pasadena & the debate can be settled on the racetrack.

Heck Yeah is a very cool horse, not sure they're in any rush to jump out of Cal-bred competition considering he looks to have them over a barrel long/short/dirt/turf for several 200k races coming up. My Boy Jack appears committed to the triple crown trail so won't see him on turf for awhile I imagine.