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Robert Fischer
02-01-2018, 04:03 PM
In this thread I will experiment with Pick 6 carryover tickets. Occasionally will target other exotic carryovers or significant spot plays.

Feel free to contribute, compete, comment, or heckle :ThmbUp:

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Robert Fischer
02-01-2018, 04:36 PM
I'll start off the experiment with today's $93,342 carryover at Santa Anita.

Today's 8th and final race features a very heavy favorite (:6: IMPECUNIOUS) who appears to be a universal single, essentially making this a $2 Pick 5.

Race 3: 'Strong' fav AIRFOIL :5:. I dislike the :2: NEXT SPEAKER and I hope he takes contrarian wise-guy money.
Race 4: Puzzling downhill race. :3: RATE FOR ME is a 'default', logical favorite. :1::4: hope to run their 'A-game' with the class relief. The 'C' horses here need dream trips. (*Image shows against #6, but is meant to reference race 5.)
Race 5: :5: WELL MEASURED is a 'default', logical favorite. I'm tossing the :6: ROCKET HEAT, and hope he takes money. A handful of 'B's adds cost, and potentially value...
Race 6: :2: C. C. ZIP is another 'default', logical favorite. Faster on paper. :8::9: are very logical as well, no value here as I find myself aligned with the public in race six...
Race 7: Handful of win contenders adds cost again. I don't like the :9: PISTOL PACKIN ROSE today, and hope she takes some money.
Race 8: :6: IMPECUNIOUS = HEAVY CHALK



Basic A-B-C selections posted below, using the DRF Ticketmaker app.

https://i.imgur.com/Eu2eJox.jpg
Adjustments:

I bet the 'A's 4x, to emphasize opinion and to not hold a winning ticket that is a big loss.

Also doubled all A/B tix with :5: Airfoil in the 3rd race.

Also wanted to re-emphasize the 2 Strong Singles, as well as ensure catching all 3 'B's on one ticket with the following $540 ticket:
Race 3: 5
Race 4: 1,3,4
Race 5: 1,2,3,4,5,8
Race 6: 2,8,9
Race 7: 2,4,5,7,11
Race 8: 6
=$540

Total Outlay(Pending Late Scratches) $2180

jay68802
02-01-2018, 05:47 PM
Heckle, heckle, heckle.

Robert Fischer
02-01-2018, 06:03 PM
Heckle, heckle, heckle.
That's messed up!




/looking at the doubles from r3 fav 5Airfoil to the fourth race, the 5 Los Gatos is currently 2nd choice... No crazy last-minute adjustments needed, I don't think anyone knows race 4 with much cetainty.

Robert Fischer
02-01-2018, 06:09 PM
That was quick!
-$2180

jay68802
02-01-2018, 06:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iF26wKF-_M

All in good fun.:)

Robert Fischer
02-01-2018, 08:52 PM
Triple carryover.

I feel less bad about my humbling debacle today.

RECAP
Race 3: :5: AIRFOIL crashed and burned @ 3/5, I got too 'fine':mad: leaving the :1: completely off the ticket. :1: was competitive w/ the other B'S on paper, although others overlooked as well paying $17.60 to win...
Race 4: Whiffed badly with the :7:CHUCKLES. Public did really well, making him 2nd choice. I knew it was a chaos race, and tried to be precise with some other pricey legs. Next time I may opt to consider the Doubles Probables:mad: info to avoid completely tossing horses like the :7: in similar situations.
Race 5: $60 'bay area':7: Hollendorfer shipper:confused: was tough to have. Blew up the Pick 6.
Race 6::2: Won like a lone A should @ 3/2.:ThmbUp:
Race 7: Favorite :5: PANTSONFIRE beat a much pricier :11:.:ThmbUp:
Race 8: :5: Pays $49 to win with the heavy favorite empty in the lane.

5/6 paid $13,622.80

P6 CARRYOVER 63,573 tomorrow
single ticket jackpot carryover $106K

jay68802
02-02-2018, 01:45 PM
Ok, gave you a hard time yesterday. Now throw a few out there, if you are going to hit the big one, could put you on the way.


Race #5 is a State bred N1X Allowance down the hillside. At 15-1 is the 0 for 13 maiden, :8: Bella Sierra. Who ran her best race of her life last time out down the hill, and is dangerous here because she just might be the only speed.

I'm sure you will find this one in the 6th, :3: Art's Table 20-1. A firster for O'Niell at 20-1? Doubtful but....

Race #8, :3: Utana 20-1. Faces claimers for the first time and you could argue that this is the best distance for this one.

GL today.

Robert Fischer
02-02-2018, 02:00 PM
Ok, gave you a hard time yesterday. Now throw a few out there, if you are going to hit the big one, could put you on the way.


Race #5 is a State bred N1X Allowance down the hillside. At 15-1 is the 0 for 13 maiden, :8: Bella Sierra. Who ran her best race of her life last time out down the hill, and is dangerous here because she just might be the only speed.

I'm sure you will find this one in the 6th, :3: Art's Table 20-1. A firster for O'Niell at 20-1? Doubtful but....

Race #8, :3: Utana 20-1. Faces claimers for the first time and you could argue that this is the best distance for this one.

GL today.

Thanks Jay. You have some sharp insights on some potential BIG scores. :ThmbUp:

Robert Fischer
02-02-2018, 02:38 PM
Back at Santa Anita, w/ a carryover of $63,573 for the P6 and there is a "single-ticket" jackpot carryover of $106K.
I also 'carry over' my loss from yesterday of -$2180.

Sequence today looked daunting at first glance, 3 downhill sprints, and some full fields, but right or wrong it made sense to me in a relatively affordable fashion.

Here's what my opinion looks like today through the Steven Crist A-B-C method, using the DRF Ticketmaker app:
Race 3: Tossing the :1: after replay review. Otherwise fairly aligned w/public.
Race 4: :3: KRISTO may actually 'improve' today. Tossing the :1:.
Race 5: :7: appears to be a superior turf horse, but 6.5downhill always tough.
Race 6: :6: RESTORING HOPE potentially stakes horse. Included jay68802's big price as a C on the ticket.
Race 7: Tossing the :4:. (*Picture circles 7, meant '4') I love that he has pretty form off of easier races and then lumped up to pass the :9: late last. :9: HANK THE TANK would be overconfident if he could read the form.
Race 8: Chaotic 6.5 downhill turf.


https://i.imgur.com/ereVIgN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ruc8TL3.jpg
Attempted to emphasize opinion with the multiples. ^

Going to emphasize the :6: RESTORING HOPE and :9: HANK THE TANK once again in an additional ticket:
RACE 3: 2,4,5,6,7
RACE 4: 2,3,4
RACE 5: 1,3,7
RACE 6: :6:
RACE 7: :9:
RACE 8: 1,3,5,7,8,9,10
=$630

TOTAL OUTLAY $1524

GaryG
02-02-2018, 04:31 PM
I would include :6: Laynee on the A list for the 5th race.

Robert Fischer
02-02-2018, 04:52 PM
I would include :6: Laynee on the A list for the 5th race.

You could be right again today.:ThmbUp:
:6: Is a solid, consistent filly. Awkward break last time may have affected her race.

I went in the direction of the :7: (In my opinion, it was either that, or use several A's). Probably should have shown the :6: more respect. Hopefully doesn't come back to haunt me.

Robert Fischer
02-02-2018, 06:25 PM
GOOD: Survived an objection. Survived my 'Toss' #1 running a solid second.

BAD: :7: IMPETU was a public 'Lone-A' if not a cold 'Single', and I went 3-deep.
Tripnote: :4: SELLWOOD impressed me in his morning works, and then today got a bit of an 'educational' race under his belt, at times near the rail, and didn't run poorly enough to completely dismiss next time out.

UGLY: I'm starting to question :3: KRISTO as a 'Lone A' :bang:
I do feel confident that :2: got a dream inside trip last time, and :4: RPRETTYBOYFLOYD has only 1 brief move at this point in his career (in addition taking some money for a cool name / known trainer/jock).

Robert Fischer
02-02-2018, 06:44 PM
:( Stinking up the joint.
I had negatives for the :2: and :4:, but I gravitated to a strong love for the :3: KRISTO. Turned out to be a race with no world-beaters, and the afterthought :6: LEWIS VALE responded well in two separate parts of the race to win today. Paid $21.60, would've had to spread/chaos the leg to cover him.

Robert Fischer
02-02-2018, 07:13 PM
I would include :6: Laynee on the A list for the 5th race.

:ThmbUp:

jay68802
02-03-2018, 01:06 PM
Santa Anita 2/3

Race #5: :5: Shivermetimbers Looks to be the best by far in this race.

Value

Race #4: :9: Zuzanna 20-1 Race is filled with almost speed types. The logical horse, the :3:, should be very tough in here. If a few of these almost speed types decide to challenge, the :9: is the best closer of the group.

Race #6: :1: Summer Buddha 30-1 Trainer is 24% off a layoff, and jockey rides this running style to a 16% win rate. Not much speed in the race at all. Could steel this one on the front or from just off a slow pace. The other speed is the :6:, Roosevelt 8-1. The odds say to use the speed and hope.

Race #9: :2: Rooms 30-1 Figure wise this horse is only 3 pts from having some of the best in the race. Lightly race 4 yr old bred for the turf, dangerous in a field lacking in talent. :7: Sturdy One 12-1 Had to drop to get the win in last but figure wise has run better than the last win figure, could be improving back to her best. :5: Gotham Desire 6-1 If you say she did not like Del Mar, then you have a horse that is 3 for 3 lifetime.

Good Luck.

Robert Fischer
02-03-2018, 02:16 PM
Santa Anita 2/3

Race #5: :5: Shivermetimbers Looks to be the best by far in this race.


I'm not 1,000% confident that :5: Shivermetimbers will fire a big one. I do think his 'A' race and his race on paper lays over this field. Better group of horses last time, but I didn't like that he was overtaken approaching the far turn.

:7: Peace's Beyer dropped off last race, but visually was more impressive than in the race that :5: Shivermetimbers held him at bay. Could be an illusion, or the :7: could be improving.

Taking this day slow, and watching some stakes as a fan. Good Luck :ThmbUp:

jay68802
02-03-2018, 04:26 PM
For anyone who reads this, do not confuse this with how Robert would do this. This should be considered picks by 4 guys that have more beer and money than common sense.

1 3 / 5 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

2 3 / 5 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 2,3,9 / 5

3 3 / 5 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 2,7,8

4 3 / 5 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 2,3,9 / 2,7,8

5 3 / 5 / 1 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

6 3 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

7 3 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 2,3,9 / 5

8 3 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 2,7,8

9 3 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 2,3,9 / 2,7,8

10 3 / 5,7 / 1 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

11 3 / 5,7 / 1 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

12 3 / 5,7 / 1 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

13 9 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 5

14 9 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 2,3,9 / 5

15 9 / 5,7 / 3,6 / 4,5 / 1,7 / 2,7,8

jay68802
02-04-2018, 01:24 PM
Yesterday can be summed up in one of two ways. 4 beers do not make a 6 pack or "Who is this Flavien Prat?"


Race #6: :3: For Greater Glory 15-1 Jacobson is good enough to start winning at any time and this guy has earned figures before in turf routes that can win this.

Race #8: :2: Ajac 30-1 One of two horses that have a win at this distance. And note that the win at this distance also earned a par figure for today's race.

:5: Sense of Glory 15-1 Improving figure wise and has run a competitive figure at this distance against better.

Race #9: :8: My Party Girl 5-1 The layoff is a concern but any improvement off of debut wins this one.

jay68802
02-04-2018, 04:00 PM
Santa Anita 2/4 KISS


1. 3 / 6 / 2,3,5 / 2,4,5,6,7,9 / 5,10 / 8