Liberal Corner

[horses4courses]

That's right.
Liberals (the outnumbered few remaining) - feel free to post as you like.
Conservatives are not welcome here.

Sure, stop by and take a look - if you dare, and you really feel the need to.
Kindly and respectfully, however, keep your opinions to yourself.

There will be plenty of memes.
The kind that conservatives hate.

But, hey.....that means there will be less of them
sprouting up in your fine threads. I'm doing you a favor. :lol:


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[JustRalph]

Naw baby naw.....

[Clocker]

A breeding ground for ignorance.

Mission Accomplished! :ThmbUp:

[horses4courses]

The first two arrive that haven't followed rules very well,
ever since their moms and teachers made an attempt.

[jocko699]

Is this the right corner to post this?

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[Clocker]

The first two arrive that haven't followed rules very well

The Golden Rule: The one with the gold gets to make the rules.

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[RunForTheRoses]

Click On Da Hil

[Clocker]

Click On Da Hil

Not without sterile surgical garb! :eek:

[horses4courses]

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[NJ Stinks]

This thread is an oasis in the desert for us liberals, Horses4courses. :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

[RunForTheRoses]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll8OnB3CSLQ

[incoming]

[QUOTE=horses4courses;2268824]That's right.
Liberals (the outnumbered few remaining) - feel free to post as you like.
Conservatives are not welcome here.

Sure, stop by and take a look - if you dare, and you really feel the need to.
Kindly and respectfully, however, keep your opinions to yourself.

There will be plenty of memes.
The kind that conservatives hate.

Congratulations!! Using rule #1 in the liberal play book. All free speech is eliminated....they way we never lose an argument.
:puke:horses4courses....sorry...you will need another pair of shoes.;)

[horses4courses]

This thread is an oasis in the desert for us liberals, Horses4courses. :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

Lots of little boys have their own sandboxes around here.
Time for one of our own.

Trouble is....you know how the schoolyard bullies are.
Just can't mind their own business, now can they?

[jocko699]

Lots of little boys have their own sandboxes around here.
Time for one of our own.

Trouble is....you know how the schoolyard bullies are.
Just can't mind their own business, now can they?

Horsey,

But this one has small smelly sausages in it. It's not a sandbox but a kitty litter platform:pound::pound::pound:

[incoming]

Lots of little boys have their own sandboxes around here.
Time for one of our own.

Trouble is....you know how the schoolyard bullies are.
Just can't mind their own business, now can they?

AW!!! All snowflakes need their safe places. I thought liberals hated walls.....diversity is just a talking point or better yet, another hypocrisy.:rolleyes::rolleyes::lol::lol:

[JustRalph]

[QUOTE=horses4courses;2268824]That's right.
Liberals (the outnumbered few remaining) - feel free to post as you like.
Conservatives are not welcome here.

Sure, stop by and take a look - if you dare, and you really feel the need to.
Kindly and respectfully, however, keep your opinions to yourself.

There will be plenty of memes.
The kind that conservatives hate.

Congratulations!! Using rule #1 in the liberal play book. All free speech is eliminated....they way we never lose an argument.
:puke:horses4courses....sorry...you will need another pair of shoes.;)

Amen!

[FantasticDan]

Mmm, smells like cognac and fine cigars in here.. as opposed to the usual Ben Gay and flatulence :lol:

Horsey, use the photo resizer button for your memes from now on. Wrap the whole text, including the IMG tags.. :ThmbUp:

[horses4courses]

Horsey, use the photo resizer button for your memes from now on. Wrap the whole text, including the IMG tags.. :ThmbUp:

Thanks. Will do.
Never knew about it.

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[horses4courses]

Thanks. Will do.
Never knew about it.

Can't get the resize to work.......oh well

[Actor]

https://www.liberalforum.org

[rastajenk]

I see the Resistance as about on par with the Secesh of 150 years ago: selfishly all right with efforts now that could, or will, fracture the nation with unforeseen, unthinkable and long-lasting pain and misery instead of just trying to win the next damn election, which is the way it's supposed to be.

The shallowness of some of these are embarrassing, for the poster and anyone who thinks they're fun.

I'm out!

:)

[Nutz and Boltz]

That's right.
Liberals (the outnumbered few remaining) - feel free to post as you like.
Conservatives are not welcome here.

Does this mean that I'll have to start an "I hate them all corner" thread ?

[barahona44]

Does this mean that I'll have to start an "I hate them all corner" thread ?
:D ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

[delayjf]

130 k??? How does that compare to the 1.3 billion Obama paid to fund terrorist supported by Iran. How many car bombs will that buy, how many people will be killed by those car bombs? If anyone should be tried for treason it should be that anti-American Obama.

[Nutz and Boltz]

130 k??? How does that compare to the 1.3 billion Obama paid to fund terrorist supported by Iran. How many car bombs will that buy, how many people will be killed by those car bombs? If anyone should be tried for treason it should be that anti-American Obama.

I guess that's the end of this thread ! :D

[horses4courses]

Does this mean that I'll have to start an "I hate them all corner" thread ?

That thread would lack for originality.

[Clocker]

That thread would lack for originality.

But poorly posted cartoons with shallow, repetitious liberal propaganda are brilliantly original? :D

[Tom]

pssst!
horsey......

You shoulda built a WALL around your corner.
Guess who's coming to dinner?

[BaffertsWig]

This thread is an oasis in the desert for us liberals, Horses4courses. :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

^ this


fellow "libtard cuck snowflake" checking in


and literal LOL at that meme Tom posted

[hcap]

Too bad we can't create plls wuithin an existing thread.

For all you Repug Bat-Shit Conspiracy Theorists.
Howe many of these are rel?


Biderbergers-Illuminati control the word

Pizzagate

Christistinity is under attack by liberals

Satanists are taking over America

Government Creates Homosexuality

“globalists” are planning on using eugenics to eliminate a large portion of the population.

Obama Is “Global Head” of Al-Qaeda

The government is controlling the weather

Devin Nunes is a god

[woodtoo]

h4c we much resist the bullshit this thread resist pinkpeach we much h4c resist your shit we much!!!:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound: ff

[barahona44]

h4c we much resist the bullshit this thread resist pinkpeach we much h4c resist your shit we much!!!:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound: ff

Are there subtitles available?:confused:

[Nutz and Boltz]

Anyone who believes either side is honest and correct in their views must have been living in a cabin in the woods all of his or her life.

[Clocker]

Are there subtitles available?:confused:

You don't speak Canadian? :confused:

[Tom]

Anyone who believes either side is honest and correct in their views must have been living in a cabin in the woods all of his or her life.

Not at all, but with one side, we get less regulations, more money, improved economy......and lots of laugh watching the snowfakes melt! :pound:

[johnhannibalsmith]

Are there subtitles available?:confused:

Big ugly! Big ugly!

[JustRalph]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/even-if-trump-is-found-guilty-mueller-wouldnt-be-the-indictment-decision-maker/551753/?utm_source=twb

Mueller time!

[GaryG]

There was recently a big item in the liberal press that "Trump thought about firing Mueller". I have thought about doing some things that would get me in serious trouble...but I didn't. It is a good thing that the Thought Police have not yet arrived. As Robert Zimmerman once said: If my thought dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine.

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[PaceAdvantage]

Liberals never learn to use the RESIZE button...thanks guys...:rolleyes:

[Clocker]

Liberals never learn to use the RESIZE button...thanks guys...:rolleyes:

It's the internet equivalent of talking louder when no one can make any sense out of what you are saying.

[PaceAdvantage]

I'm fine with this thread. But I find it funny that I don't recall any "righties" creating threads where they request that no liberals participate.

So, congrats on having an original thought regarding thread creation.

[horses4courses]

Liberals never learn to use the RESIZE button...thanks guys...:rolleyes:

I've tried it, and it doesn't reduce them.

[PaceAdvantage]

That's ok, I fixed the ones on this last page, but I'm not going back and fixing them all...

Just highlight the image link in your post and click the last button on the right that looks like a yellow box with two arrows pointing at it (one from bottom and one from right).

Don't have to do it all the time obviously, because some pix will fit on their own.

I know, I know...the board should do this AUTOMATICALLY FOR YOU...we'll get there eventually....lol

[NJ Stinks]

As liberals everywhere know, the prez hasn't a clue when it comes to the state of the union. So I skipped the patting himself on the back for an hour and watched another episode of The Crown instead. I swear the Queen expects less bowing from her peasants.

Anyway, I was hoping to come to Liberal Corner and commiserate. Instead I find righties putting Obama in jail (again), Mueller giving the prez a free pass, and Tom being Tom. :ThmbDown:

[hcap]

There was recently a big item in the liberal press that "Trump thought about firing Mueller". I have thought about doing some things that would get me in serious trouble...but I didn't. It is a good thing that the Thought Police have not yet arrived. As Robert Zimmerman once said: If my thought dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine.The Obstruction of justice case against the prez will be established on
intent among other things including multiple instances like firing Comey.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/obstruction_of_justice

CORNELL LAW SCHOOL
omnibus clause of 18 U.S.C. § 1503

...Persons are charged under this statute based on allegations that a defendant intended to intefere with an official proceeding, by doing things such as destroying evidence, or intefering with the duties of jurors or court officers.

[hcap]

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'I believe the time has come to bring that investigation and the other investigations of the matter to an end. One year of Watergate is enough.':eek::eek:

[MargieRose]

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[Racetrack Playa]

Gross woman this Stormy D.:puke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntl5Da1vblI

[Tom]

Anyway, I was hoping to come to Liberal Corner and commiserate. Instead I find righties putting Obama in jail (again), Mueller giving the prez a free pass, and Tom being Tom. :ThmbDown:

N you know how hard working REAL American feel when they shell out ridiculous money to tickets to a relaxing day of NFL football and have to insulted by a bunch of worthless overpaid pigs who force their politics down everyone's throats.

Welcome.

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[JustRalph]

Classy post......

[horses4courses]

Classy post......

Thanks.....high praise indeed.
After all, you set such high standards yourself.

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[RunForTheRoses]

This whole MFin thread:

[woodtoo]

This whole MFin thread:

You knew it was wrong when you stepped in.:D

[reckless]

A serious question for h4c ...

Do you and your friends on the fringe really, truly and sincerely believe all of this Trump bashing --thanks to the kooks in Occupy Democrats, owned and funded by self-hating Jew, world-wide financial criminal and 1 per center, George Soros-- will have any affect to those of sound intellect and strong backs?

Assuming that you answer this polite request, we ask for much more than a simple 'yes', preferring something along the lines befitting your intellect and integrity for an honest debate.

Thanks.

[PaceAdvantage]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVC6bDLWsAAhDmi.jpg:smallI watched the speech. Not once did I specifically hear Trump claim these numbers were all his doing nor did I specifically hear him use the word *I* or take credit for it in any SPECIFIC way.

He just read the numbers. He did not add "LOOK WHAT I DID" or "THIS IS WHAT MY ADMINISTRATION HAS LED TO"

He did absolutely none of that. Did you even listen to the speech?

[wisconsin]

Did you even listen to the speech?


Mike, you know they don't have to listen, because the MSM will interpret it for them.

[boxcar]

I watched the speech. Not once did I specifically hear Trump claim these numbers were all his doing nor did I specifically hear him use the word *I* or take credit for it in any SPECIFIC way.

He just read the numbers. He did not add "LOOK WHAT I DID" or "THIS IS WHAT MY ADMINISTRATION HAS LED TO"

He did absolutely none of that. Did you even listen to the speech?

Just as interesting aside and by way of very sharp contrast, since you brought up the "I" word: I think El Rushbo said yesterday that Trump used the "I" word only 19 times in his long speech. Obama, conversely, in his first SOTU, used the word "I" or some form of it (my, mine, etc.) around 275 times. It doesn't take a genius to see which president was truly full of himself because his cup overfloweth with large doses of megalomania. :coffee:

[Tom]

What Trump gave was a "state of the union" speech.
He gave out fact that are the current"state of the union.

Horsey obvious has nothing of any substance to argue with, so he resorts to cartoons. Must suck to be so wrong and know it! :pound::pound::pound:

[davew]

What Trump gave was a "state of the union" speech.
He gave out fact that are the current"state of the union.

Horsey obvious has nothing of any substance to argue with, so he resorts to cartoons. Must suck to be so wrong and know it! :pound::pound::pound:

It sucks even more to be so wrong and not know it. It is just another year until Nancy Pelosi returns to her rightful place as speaker of the house.:headbanger:

[riskman]

Its so entertaining to watch Americans fight so publicly and so viciously over Trump.Our Rulers are indeed masters of corruption, and secrecy is a basic tool of their control of society, as is basic and repeated lying, and false narratives to pacify the masses.

[horses4courses]

I watched the speech. Not once did I specifically hear Trump claim these numbers were all his doing nor did I specifically hear him use the word *I* or take credit for it in any SPECIFIC way.

He just read the numbers. He did not add "LOOK WHAT I DID" or "THIS IS WHAT MY ADMINISTRATION HAS LED TO"

He did absolutely none of that. Did you even listen to the speech?

No rocket science degree required to realize that any time
Trump refers to a bull market, he is taking credit for it.

It's just who he is, and how he rolls.

[horses4courses]

A serious question for h4c ...

Do you and your friends on the fringe really, truly and sincerely believe all of this Trump bashing --thanks to the kooks in Occupy Democrats, owned and funded by self-hating Jew, world-wide financial criminal and 1 per center, George Soros-- will have any affect to those of sound intellect and strong backs?

Assuming that you answer this polite request, we ask for much more than a simple 'yes', preferring something along the lines befitting your intellect and integrity for an honest debate.

Thanks.

I have no chance whatsoever of swaying opinion here.
Won't stop me from trying, though.

Those with sound intellect are, more than likely, left of center.
This is a factor of at least two thirds of college grads being anti-Trump.

"Strong backs" is another term for damned stubborn.
That you all are. This doesn't mean you're on the right side.

It all comes down to history.
You point to the Chappaquiddicks, Lewinskis, and Benghazis.
I point to McCarthyism, Nixon, and Cheney's supposed WMDs.
While our outlooks run perpendicular - our desires for this country
to prosper are basically the same. We just approach it differently.

[Tom]

Keep telling yourself that.
Nixon and McCarthy were warped INDIVIDUALS.

The left is bat-shit useless solidarity.
I have never seen one left-leaning dingbat on this board ever disagree with the party line.

[PaceAdvantage]

I have never seen one left-leaning dingbat on this board ever disagree with the party line.It's actually an admirable trait when you think about it...wish Republicans were more like that...:pound:

[Clocker]

This is a factor of at least two thirds of college grads being anti-Trump.



Anyone that thinks that is a positive hasn't been on a college campus in quite a while.

[horses4courses]

Anyone that thinks that is a positive hasn't been on a college campus in quite a while.

What are the chances your father said that in the '60s?

Never underestimate the value of a good education.
Lasts a lifetime......

[fast4522]

It's actually an admirable trait when you think about it...wish Republicans were more like that...:pound:

Yes yes but what really is the party line, something makes me think that something is really wrong inside liberal brains. Not just the socialist factor but everything like the Stepford men.

[Clocker]

Never underestimate the value of a good education.


Never overestimate the chances of getting one any more.

[RunForTheRoses]

Joseph McCarthy was right, the late NY Post Opinion Editor Eric Breindel wrote about this:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2539.html

[RunForTheRoses]

College educated:

[RunForTheRoses]

Joseph McCarthy was right, the late NY Post Opinion Editor Eric Breindel wrote about this:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2539.html

Also:



http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3462/Defending-Joseph-Raymond-McCarthy-1908-1957.aspx

Just because Hollywood shoves bullshit like Trumbo down our throats doesn't make it true.

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[Clocker]

Roasting in hell? :lol:

Hell, as in an after-life? Since when do liberals believe in anything other than secular social justice? Haven't you been reading your briefing memos from the DNC? There is no hell, there is only hell on earth in the form of a Republican administration and Congress.

There is no God or Devil, there is only Obama or Trump. :p

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[Clocker]

Apparently reliable reports are that the DNC is just about broke.

So the question is are they broke because they have been spending money on the kind of mindless propaganda posted here, or is this kind of idiocy all that they can afford because they are broke?

[JustRalph]

Apparently reliable reports are that the DNC is just about broke.

So the question is are they broke because they have been spending money on the kind of mindless propaganda posted here, or is this kind of idiocy all that they can afford because they are broke?

Legal fees will eat them alive over the next few years if things go right

[Tom]

All the big DNC donners are paying legal fees for the attacks on women.

[horses4courses]

Wow!
What's next for these two fertile imaginations?
Writing fiction for Hollywood? :lol:

[JustRalph]

Wow!
What's next for these two fertile imaginations?
Writing fiction for Hollywood? :lol:

Step up and give! Put ur money where your mouth is......

[hcap]

Yup. Sean Hannity Found A Way To Blame Obama For The Stock Market Drop

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ8KSz_UQAEtix1.jpg

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sean-hannity-blames-obama-stock-market-drop_us_5a791428e4b018ad894f229c?ncid=inblnkushpmg 00000009

[Tom]

Hey Ralphie, I love the small of despondence in the morning!

[JustRalph]

Hey Ralphie, I love the small of despondence in the morning!

Yep......

[Lemon Drop Husker]

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If you want to honestly talk about the CFPB and how much the crapfest it is, let me know. I work in this arena, and know full time how worthless this pile of crap is/and or was.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Yup. Sean Hannity Found A Way To Blame Obama For The Stock Market Drop


DOW rise, all Obama

DOW fall, all Trump

Anything else you want to say with a straight face?

[hcap]

DOW rise, all Obama

DOW fall, all Trump

Anything else you want to say with a straight face?Trump is just building on the Obama trend, even if the market tanked over the last few days.
Hannity is a fool big time.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Trump is just building on the Obama trend, even if the market tanked over the last few days.
Hannity is a fool big time.

What do you honestly predict if Batshit Crazy Hillary were in charge right now?

[hcap]

What do you honestly predict if Batshit Crazy Hillary were in charge right now?I would not get sick to my stomach watching the dick head Trump on TV and listening to his ass-kissing apologetic toadies excusing him ad infinitum!:eek::eek:

[fast4522]

I would not get sick to my stomach watching the dick head Trump on TV and listening to his ass-kissing apologetic toadies excusing him ad infinitum!:eek::eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-kcQvZY8ZE

[PaceAdvantage]

I would not get sick to my stomach watching the dick head Trump on TV and listening to his ass-kissing apologetic toadies excusing him ad infinitum!:eek::eek:I know, because there were never any ass-kissing apologetic toadies excusing Obama ad infinitum on here and everywhere else scant months ago (and to this day actually).

You'd have a lot more credibility if you'd at least FAKE some objectivity.

Oh, I know...nobody on the left ever criticized Obama because there was nothing to criticize, right hcap? He was the perfect human specimen and the perfect president. I forgot. :puke:

[Lemon Drop Husker]

I would not get sick to my stomach watching the dick head Trump on TV and listening to his ass-kissing apologetic toadies excusing him ad infinitum!:eek::eek:

Imagine how smart and intelligent people felt for 8 years when O'crapcare was in charge.

Right the wave, and quit being a bitch.

[horses4courses]

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[davew]

I would not get sick to my stomach watching the dick head Trump on TV and listening to his ass-kissing apologetic toadies excusing him ad infinitum!:eek::eek:

you must be watching the DNC backed stations

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[Clocker]

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Your sig line is appropriate here, given your ignorance of firearms.

An AR-15 is not an assault weapon, and would not only be of little use against those monsters of your imagination, but would be considered inappropriate and under-powered in legally hunting large game.

[Clocker]

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The ignorant and ineffective anti-guns laws passed by liberals aren't working either. Insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different result. So, tell us again how many more anti-guns laws you want.

[Tom]

We should make schools gun free zones.
That should take care of it.

[horses4courses]

We all know nothing will change because of this,
or 18 more mass shootings at schools within the
next year. Insanity is constantly repeating mistakes .

The gun lobby owns a big chunk of this country,
and a great number of the politicians governing it.

[Clocker]

The gun lobby owns a big chunk of this country,
and a great number of the politicians governing it.

Twisted logic without factual basis. Who the hell do you think the "gun lobby" is? And how does that "gun lobby" own politicians?

Concerned citizens in this country own the gun lobby, and unite through it to convey their message to politicians. The NRA's power is not based on money, it is based on votes.

I know this conflicts with the liberal dogma, but the "gun lobby" in this country is a grass roots power, based on individuals and their votes, not on corporate interests and their money. American guns owners are a minor factor in the business of international weapons cartels. Please take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. They don't cut the mustard here.

[davew]

We all know nothing will change because of this,
or 18 more mass shootings at schools within the
next year. Insanity is constantly repeating mistakes .

The gun lobby owns a big chunk of this country,
and a great number of the politicians governing it.

If only there were tough gun laws like in Chicago, there might be a few thousand shot every year...

Wait, more died from gunshot in Chicago last year than ALL the schools in the ENTIRE country - lib logic needs to deal with this.

[horses4courses]

Twisted logic without factual basis. Who the hell do you think the "gun lobby" is? And how does that "gun lobby" own politicians?

Concerned citizens in this country own the gun lobby, and unite through it to convey their message to politicians. The NRA's power is not based on money, it is based on votes.

I know this conflicts with the liberal dogma, but the "gun lobby" in this country is a grass roots power, based on individuals and their votes, not on corporate interests and their money. American guns owners are a minor factor in the business of international weapons cartels. Please take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. They don't cut the mustard here.

The NRA donates millions to politicians.
These are the same politicians who will join in a chorus of
"our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims of _______"

You fill in the blank - it could have been Las Vegas, or today's school,
or anywhere else in the future.

Your so called "grass roots" power is f**ked up.
That's a fact.

[FantasticDan]

The modern day NRA exists for one simple reason: to sell guns.

[Clocker]

Your so called "grass roots" power is f**ked up.
That's a fact.

Law abiding people who want to be left alone and allowed to exercise their Constitutional rights are "f**cked up". Thanks for playing.

[woodtoo]

Time to step away from the keyboard and pour a few stiff shots this is no way to solve anything, really dude "chill" take a long walk or something.:ThmbUp:

[Clocker]

The modern day NRA exists for one simple reason: to sell guns.

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

Sorry to be blunt, but this is ignorant. The NRA has 5 million members, all individual citizens. The NRA's political clout is based on votes, not money. The NRA's endorsement is worth a lot more to a lot of candidates in votes than the NRA's money.

[FantasticDan]

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

Please. You know perfectly well who owns the NRA these days, and it ain't Joe Grassroots.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1

"Today's NRA is a virtual subsidiary of the gun industry," said Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center. "While the NRA portrays itself as protecting the 'freedom' of individual gun owners, it's actually working to protect the freedom of the gun industry to manufacture and sell virtually any weapon or accessory."

[davew]

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

Sorry to be blunt, but this is ignorant. The NRA has 5 million members, all individual citizens. The NRA's political clout is based on votes, not money. The NRA's endorsement is worth a lot more to a lot of candidates in votes than the NRA's money.

I am not a member, but it is liberally obvious that there are 5 million Ponzi scheme members trying to sell guns.

[Tom]

Memo To: Dan and horsey
Subj: Reality check

Please. You know perfectly well who owns the DNC these days, and it ain't Joe Grassroots.


Yours truly,
The Real World

[elysiantraveller]

We all know nothing will change because of this,
or 18 more mass shootings at schools within the
next year. Insanity is constantly repeating mistakes .

The gun lobby owns a big chunk of this country,
and a great number of the politicians governing it.

Define assault rifle. A, B, or C.

https://ii.cheaperthandirt.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/cheaperthandirt/source/93005_1.tif&wid=575&cvt=jpeg

https://basspro.scene7.com/is/image/BassPro/1193492_10218139_is

https://basspro.scene7.com/is/image/BassPro/2322037_2326845_is

[horses4courses]

Law abiding people who want to be left alone and allowed to exercise their Constitutional rights are "f**cked up". Thanks for playing.

They are victims.

One massive brainwashing scheme after the next
through the history of this nation. The need for
guns was one of the earliest, and most successful.

Other schemes in modern times have evolved through
television advertising and the media. People don't
seem to know what to think unless they are told.
Whether it's which detergent to buy, or what sport
to watch, they are vulnerable to outside opinion.

The Constitution is part of the problem.
Interpretations are never the same, especially
when it comes to centuries old verbiage.
The right to bear arms never included
assault weapons, no matter how you spin it.

Mass shootings will continue.
We just move on to the next one.
More thoughts and prayers.
More weapons purchased.

Public opinion shifts towards greater
gun control in Congress - for now.
In a few weeks, it will be back to normal.
Nothing will change.

[woodtoo]

Everyone hopes and prays there will be no more mass shootings.
Schools should be required to protect their students from harms way.

Private schools are much safer than public schools, what are they doing so differently?

[hcap]

Define assault rifle. A, B, or C.


Evidently there are many......

List of assault rifles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assault_rifles



Killing children and students employ any from fully automatic to singled fire. It doesn't matter that much. Problem is when l we start spouting nonsense about having "prayers and condolences" and not doing anything.



After every national tragedy, like the one at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, a familiar rhythm of grief emerges. Politicians, religious leaders, and other public figures emerge to offer “thoughts and prayers” to those afflicted. President Donald Trump offered “prayers and condolences,” and First Lady Melania Trump tweeted that the Florida victims were in her “thoughts and prayers.”
Fact remains guns themselves allow psychopaths and the unhinged to leverage their killing capacity many times

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20141219_guns5.jpg

[woodtoo]

No matter how much we may hope and pray that guns should be banned it just aint gonna happen we need an alternate plan to stop the shooters.
Charts dont stop bullets....usually.

[hcap]

No matter how much we may hope and pray that guns should be banned it just aint gonna happen we need an alternate plan to stop the shooters.Maaybe offer the psychos bombs, tanks and lethal poison like nerve gas in exchange for their guns? Hell we wouldn't want to infringe on any ones right to defend themselves. Especially when the Bilderbergers, Illuminati, and Globalists like Obama and the Clintons are out to control all American citizens.:eek::eek:

[horses4courses]

We have always had, and will continue to have,
mentally ill persons in our society. The same
situation exists throughout the world.

What is unique in the US, however, is the
access to firearms that unstable persons
have compared to elsewhere.

Are we totally incapable of making
changes to improve this predicament?

[woodtoo]

Are you against armed security guards and I mean professionally trained ones not the rent a cop variety?
I am all for protecting the students and staff .

[woodtoo]

Step1 Identify the mentally disturbed alert the school and police.

[woodtoo]

This is a safety issue not exclusive to guns or knives or bombs. Protection against the unknown is very unpredictable. Ask anyone.

[elysiantraveller]

The Constitution is part of the problem.
Interpretations are never the same, especially
when it comes to centuries old verbiage.
The right to bear arms never included
assault weapons, no matter how you spin it.

How do you figure?

I discussed this about the "well-regulated militia" part. While many uninformed people of the gun control lobby use that to bolster the point that people shouldn't own guns it, on the contrary, actually means people should be extremely well equipped.

[elysiantraveller]

Evidently there are many......

List of assault rifles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assault_rifles

By the link you quoted Z-E-R-O of the weapons being mentioned by the gun-control advocates are assault rifles.

"An assault rifle is a rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge, has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic/fully automatic fire and a detachable magazine.[1] Assault rifles are currently the standard service rifles in most modern armies."

[johnhannibalsmith]

We need Spiderman to start something akin to the Religious thread.

[Clocker]

"Today's NRA is a virtual subsidiary of the gun industry," said Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center. "While the NRA portrays itself as protecting the 'freedom' of individual gun owners, it's actually working to protect the freedom of the gun industry to manufacture and sell virtually any weapon or accessory."

I looked at the website of that group, and I see a lot of "statistics" presented with no cite of the source. I also see incredibly stupid statements that show total ignorance of how firearms work.

[PaceAdvantage]

I looked at the website of that group, and I see a lot of "statistics" presented with no cite of the source. I also see incredibly stupid statements that show total ignorance of how firearms work.I can only think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

[JustRalph]

The modern day NRA exists for one simple reason: to sell guns.

Giving the people what they want! 👍

Get over it

[FantasticDan]

Giving the people what they want! 👍
Get over it
The vast majority of people don't want. 78% of US adults don't own a gun.

[Parkview_Pirate]

The Constitution is part of the problem.
...
The right to bear arms never included
assault weapons, no matter how you spin it.

A bold statement to consider the document that's provided one of the best forms of government and most successful nations a "problem". Sure, our process is flawed, but there's ways to make changes to the laws if the amendment garners the support.

As for assault weapons, private citizens are actually behind the curve considering the weapons available for modern military use. So, "the spin" as you would call it, requires the good citizens to have a check and balance available to thwart tyranny.

But of course the spin from the gun grabbers is that Government is not to be feared. There are many who disagree.

[Clocker]

We need Spiderman to start something akin to the Religious thread.

Any thread about firearms is a faith-based topic for the left.

[Clocker]

As for assault weapons, private citizens are actually behind the curve

Correct. Some reasons being that owning an assault weapon requires a Federal Class 3 Weapons License, which costs $200, and that assault weapon prices start in the 4 figure range.

[JustRalph]

The vast majority of people don't want. 78% of US adults don't own a gun.

Shame on them

[FantasticDan]

Shame on them
Why?

[Clocker]

The vast majority of people don't want. 78% of US adults don't own a gun.

Source?

Two weeks ago, the PEW Research Center released a survey showing that gun ownership by households is up to 44% — a 7-percentage point increase in the past two years. Another 5% of households won’t reveal whether they own a gun. And odds are good that some of the people who said that they didn't own a gun really did, but were just screwing with the pollsters. People lie to pollsters, a lot.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/08/gun-ownership-is-up-in-america-so-why-isnt-media-telling-about-it.html

[FantasticDan]

Source?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/?utm_term=.4bd6c465df1b

[woodtoo]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/?utm_term=.4bd6c465df1b

Do you have a point or do you just like to post shit you find all day?

[woodtoo]

Do you have a point or do you just like to post shit you find all day?

Stupidquestion.:lol::lol::lol::coffee:

[Clocker]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/?utm_term=.4bd6c465df1b

Access blocked. I guess they know who the liberals are. :p

[Clocker]

Obama couldn't get more anti-gun laws passed when he was in office, so now he wants Trump to do it. :rolleyes:

Former President Barack Obama issued a call for gun control just minutes after President Donald Trump addressed the nation in the wake of the tragic school shooting in Florida.

Obama described more gun control laws as “long overdue,” despite his repeated failure to change gun laws during his presidency.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/15/after-donald-trump-speaks-obama-demands-gun-control-in-response-to-school-shooting/

[davew]

The vast majority of people don't want. 78% of US adults don't own a gun.

Just because someone does not own, does not mean does not want. Maybe the government could give away phones, food, and guns.

[Clocker]

An article at PJ Media talks about the days back in the Dark Ages (30 years ago) when high schools actually had rifle ranges and kids brought their guns to school on the bus. My high school didn't have one, but the university I attended had a rifle range under the stadium grandstands. I wonder if it is still there.

The author points out that there were no school shootings back then. And since the guns haven't changed, something else must have. (He doesn't mention the NRA, but it was also around back then, just like now.)


The high school kids who shot rifles in school in 1985 were taught right and wrong. They were taught what to do with their rifle in school, and what not to do. If they got out of line, all the other students and the coach would have come down on them hard. There were no safe spaces, and that was a good thing.

Culture is a powerful force for good. When good behavior is normalized and deviant destructive behavior is ostracized, shamed, and marginalized, you get more good behavior.

Considering evil in this debate makes some of you uncomfortable, but evil bathes all of these shootings. I am reminded of Justice Antonin Scalia’s spectacularly funny and profound interview in 2013 when he toyed with a New Yorker reporter about evil. “You travel in circles that are so, so removed from mainstream America that you are appalled that anybody would believe in the Devil!”, he chortled.

Thirty years ago, kids who brought their rifles to the high school shooting range didn’t wonder about evil and cultural decay. They simply lived in a time in America when right and wrong was more starkly defined, where expectations about behavior were clear, and wickedness hadn’t been normalized.

The idea that guns caused the carnage we have faced is so intellectually bankrupt that it is isn’t worth discussing. Remembering where we were as a nation just 30 years ago makes it even more so. It’s time to ask what changed.
https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/flashback-30-years-guns-schools-nothing-happened/

[FantasticDan]

The author points out that there were no school shootings back then. And since the guns haven't changed, something else must have. (He doesn't mention the NRA, but it was also around back then, just like now.)
The NRA of the 60s and 70s (which is when I assume you're talking about) has little resemblance to the NRA of today. Other than what's mentioned in this video, the NRA of those days didn't have tens of millions of dollars in support pouring into it from gun manufacturers.

http://theweek.com/articles/597752/how-nra-gun-manufacturers-work-together-scam-gun-owners

https://youtu.be/7460CZcGJRY

[OntheRail]

The NRA of the 60s and 70s (which is when I assume you're talking about) has little resemblance to the NRA of today. Other than what's mentioned in this video, the NRA of those days didn't have tens of millions of dollars in support pouring into it from gun manufacturers.

http://theweek.com/articles/597752/how-nra-gun-manufacturers-work-together-scam-gun-owners

https://youtu.be/7460CZcGJRY

You've missed the point of what Clocker was making. It's not the Guns or the NRA. It's the LACK of that is to blame.

LACK of Common Sense
LACK of Moral Character
LACK of Personal Responsibly
LACK of Values
LACK of Civil Discourse

Just to name a few...

[Clocker]

The NRA of the 60s and 70s (which is when I assume you're talking about) has little resemblance to the NRA of today. Other than what's mentioned in this video, the NRA of those days didn't have tens of millions of dollars in support pouring into it from gun manufacturers.



The NRA has changed its tactics and its funding in line with the changes in opposition to it and with increased attempts to regulate guns.

And I am shocked, shocked to learn that gun manufacturers are spending money to promote gun sales. The bastages! :eek:

None of which addresses the point of the article: society has changed, and not for the better. And there is no evidence that the NRA is responsible for the changes.

To repeat Adams,

The idea that guns caused the carnage we have faced is so intellectually bankrupt that it isn’t worth discussing.

[woodtoo]

Update: the NRA does not promote gun violence or school shootings.

[davew]

Update: the NRA does not promote gun violence or school shootings.

the dims are the ones that keep talking about it, and crying on television shows about it...

[Clocker]

the dims are the ones that keep talking about it, and crying on television shows about it...

That's easier than addressing the real problem. And part of the big picture problem is the strong opposition of the left to using any information about mental health problems to restrict gun ownership for people with such problems. It remains to be seen if that issue is relevant to the Florida shooting.

And speaking of libs and guns and mental health, Stephen King posted that the dead in Florida were killed with an MS-13. :faint:

[FantasticDan]

That's easier than addressing the real problem. And part of the big picture problem is the strong opposition of the left to using any information about mental health problems to restrict gun ownership for people with such problems.
Please elaborate on this statement. Illustrate how the left is opposed to restricting gun ownership for people with mental illness.

[Clocker]

Illustrate how the left is opposed to restricting gun ownership for people with mental illness.

I didn't say the left is opposed to restricting gun ownership for people with mental illness. I said they were opposed to releasing mental health information.

[davew]

fellow libs may want to sign the petition to impeach Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-just-matter-time-130002857.html

[PaceAdvantage]

fellow libs may want to sign the petition to impeach Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-just-matter-time-130002857.html

"There will be increasing evidence and increasing urgency with the American people to get this guy out of office as people realize we really can't survive him,"These kind of guys are the best kind of crazy...

[Parkview_Pirate]

I didn't say the left is opposed to restricting gun ownership for people with mental illness. I said they were opposed to releasing mental health information.

Bingo. To keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, liberals seem to have difficulty balancing privacy with the required sharing of information.

And on a related note, you have to go to non-mainstream sources to find anything at all about the most relevant question: if the perp was/is mentally ill, what meds are involved? Lots of data indicate the problems with young people being given SSRIs and not being kept under watch.

http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/media-ignoring-1-crucial-factor-in-florida-school-shooting/

Many school shootings involve meds, and reactions to misuse or going off them. We might ask ourselves what's changed in the last 30 years for school shootings to become more common? Sure, video games and cultural shifts can explain some of it, but all? But do we ever hear any calls in the media to go after Big Pharma? The doctors? No. Only when Michael Jackson or Prince OD then we ask for the doctor to be strung up....

Yet the predictable response from the press is always the same – not only a total lack of curiosity, but disdain for any who ask the question, as though connecting psychiatric meds to mass shootings is pursuing a “conspiracy theory.”
...
Fact: A disturbing number of perpetrators of school shootings and similar mass murders in our modern era were either on – or just recently coming off of – psychiatric medications. A few of the most high-profile examples, out of many others, include:

Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. Harris and fellow student Dylan Klebold went on a hellish school shooting rampage in 1999 during which they killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves. Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s one in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.

Patrick Purdy went on a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, California, in 1989, which became the catalyst for the original legislative frenzy to ban “semiautomatic assault weapons” in California and the nation. The 25-year-old Purdy, who murdered five children and wounded 30, had been on Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.

Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Oregon, and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.

In Paducah, Kentucky, in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.

In 2005, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.

In another famous case, 47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Kentucky, killing nine. Prozac-maker Eli Lilly later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.

Kurt Danysh, 18, shot his own father to death in 1996, a little more than two weeks after starting on Prozac. Danysh’s description of own his mental-emotional state at the time of the murder is chilling: “I didn’t realize I did it until after it was done,” Danysh said. “This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun.”


And if any of you follow Karl Denninger, he penned another infamous rant today:

http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=232986

Psychotropic medication, specifically in this case SSRIs, are dangerous in those under the age of 25 in that there is a known small but real risk of them potentiating a "Rage Monster" style attack when given to people in this age group. This risk is specifically noted in the prescribing information (it notes the possibility of potentiating a mixed/manic state with aggression if given to someone who is both under 25 and bipolar) but we still hand this crap out to kids and near-kids and there appears to be no good way to know who will have that sort of reaction to consuming them in advance.

[Clocker]

fellow libs may want to sign the petition to impeach Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-just-matter-time-130002857.html

"He has lowered the standards for Americans. I mean, just as a glaring example, no other American president used a four-letter word, bathroom language, in meetings," Steyer said of Trump.OMG!!! :eek:

Where do I sign?

I don't know how Eisenhower escaped impeachment.

The more religious members of Eisenhower’s cabinet asked that he begin its meetings with a prayer. Ultimately the cabinet decided to do so in silence. Once when Ike launched straight into a meeting, he was slipped a note, and then blurted out, "Oh, goddammit, we forgot the silent prayer."

[OntheRail]

OMG!!! :eek:

Where do I sign?

.

Go ahead and sign it... join the 4.7 mil who receive email offers for Coco and Pink Puddy Hats. :pound:

[NJ Stinks]

Quote: The idea that guns caused the carnage we have faced is so intellectually bankrupt that it is isn’t worth discussing.

Perhaps the NFL Commish can use the same logic.
Quote: It's not the game of football causing all those concussions, it's the damn players and the way they choose to play football.

[Tom]

I didn't say the left is opposed to restricting gun ownership for people with mental illness. I said they were opposed to releasing mental health information.

And checking social media to vet immigrant was prohibited under the 0bama Mob.

Could have stopped San Bernadino from happening.
Liberal FBI too busy trying to manufacture charges against Trump to do their jobs and could have stopped this one from happening.
The kids at the school KNEW he was going to do it. Everyone KNEW he was going to do it.

Except the Federal Bureau of Liberal Incompetents.

[Clocker]

Quote: The idea that guns caused the carnage we have faced is so intellectually bankrupt that it is isn’t worth discussing.

Perhaps the NFL Commish can use the same logic.
Quote: It's not the game of football causing all those concussions, it's the damn players and the way they choose to play football.

No, the same logic of blaming the guns would be to blame the footballs for the concussions. Maybe the game would be safer if the NFL changed to Nerf balls.

That's probably why the Patriots were using under inflated footballs in the past, to prevent concussions.

[NJ Stinks]

No, the same logic of blaming the guns would be to blame the footballs for the concussions. Maybe the game would be safer if the NFL changed to Nerf balls.

That's probably why the Patriots were using under inflated footballs in the past, to prevent concussions.

No football -no concussions.

No guns - no mass slayings.


Looking forward to your next deflection.

[hcap]

Guns throughout the world.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/World_map_of_civilian_gun_ownership_-_2nd_color_scheme.svg/1280px-World_map_of_civilian_gun_ownership_-_2nd_color_scheme.svg.png

Once again

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20141219_guns5.jpg

https://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/1013d89c2992.jpg


Anyone see the correlation? A major problem is the "gun culture romance" of this country

After horrendous mass school shootings, it may be more than regulations may be needed.

[davew]

Light blue SAFE ZONES for LIBS

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/World_map_of_civilian_gun_ownership_-_2nd_color_scheme.svg/1280px-World_map_of_civilian_gun_ownership_-_2nd_color_scheme.svg.png



Light blue SAFE ZONES for LIBS

[hcap]

Light blue SAFE ZONES for LIBSI guess you must be a LIB then?

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Guns throughout the world.

And what is your plan to disarm the United States?

Before I LMAO, make sure to put more maps up for comment.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

I guess you must be a LIB then?

I guess you must be a war-painted near-child from a netherwold that adults won't stand for your cause?

[hcap]

I guess you must be a war-painted near-child from a netherwold that adults won't stand for your cause?Incompetent meaningless idiotic babble. Try again using your brain.

Obviously you gents don't like the facts shown in those graphs and can not say anything rational.

Insults are the alt rights way of deflection. :sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Incompetent meaningless idiotic babble. Try again using your brain.

Obviously you gents don't like the facts shown in those graphs and can not say anything rational.

Insults are the alt rights way of deflection. :sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

Pure garbage just like the Alt-right crap you just spoke hcap Marxist.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Incompetent meaningless idiotic babble. Try again using your brain.

Obviously you gents don't like the facts shown in those graphs and can not say anything rational.

Insults are the alt rights way of deflection. :sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

You must be Alt-left then.

Heil hcap.

[hcap]

Pure garbage just like the Alt-right crap you just spoke hcap Marxist.Hedy genius I did not make up the facts that you cannot grasp.

Sayonara

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Hedy genius I did not make up the facts that you cannot grasp.

Sayonara

You have no facts. You just simply lose and leave.

You are a good loser though. Kudos.

[hcap]

You have no facts. You just simply lose and leave.

You are a good loser though. Kudos.You may not want to fall out of love with guns for reasins related to self defense and enjoyment of the "sport" of hunting.

But you cannot deny the facts displayed in those 3 graphs.

You are a poor loser.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap
Light blue SAFE ZONES for LIBS

Hey, I see what you did there.
You used the same tired Global Warming charts and switched the REDs to BLUEs.

Good multi-tasking! :lol:

btw are you saying they don't need guns in Alaska?
Ever watch TV lately?

They have three damn good reasons to carry guns:

1 Bears
2 Bears
3 Bears

[hcap]

Hey, I see what you did there.
You used the same tired GLobal Warming charts and switched the REDs to BLUEs.

Good multi-tasking! :lol:That was plagiarist daveW that changed my post...

I started it with "guns throughout the world.

[davew]

I guess you must be a LIB then?

Yes, the next time TRUMP does something that spins me into an uncontrollable tizzy, I will be moving.

[JustRalph]

No football -no concussions.

No guns - no mass slayings.


Looking forward to your next deflection.

Yeah right

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256293/More-500-people-slaughtered-machete-revenge-attacks-Christian-villages-Nigeria.html

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

http://www.mining.com/fifty-killed-in-a-knife-attack-at-a-chinese-colliery/

[woodtoo]

Yeah right

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256293/More-500-people-slaughtered-machete-revenge-attacks-Christian-villages-Nigeria.html

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

http://www.mining.com/fifty-killed-in-a-knife-attack-at-a-chinese-colliery/
Yeah, nice deflection. Knives don't kill people do.:confused:

[NJ Stinks]

Yeah right

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256293/More-500-people-slaughtered-machete-revenge-attacks-Christian-villages-Nigeria.html

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

http://www.mining.com/fifty-killed-in-a-knife-attack-at-a-chinese-colliery/

Really, Ralph. You are telling me one 19 year old running around with a knife or a machete could kill 17 able-bodied teenagers and adults at a high school?

[hcap]

Yeah right


Yeah right, occaisional knife attacks prove mass school slaughters with guns are not horrendous dangerous AND not preventable.

....Japan's homicide rate was just 0.3 per 100,000 people in 2015, compared to 4.1 per 100,000 in the US. BTW< Japan has 0.6 guns per 100 civilians compared with 101 guns per 100 civilians in the United States.

Japan had a single shooting death in 2015, compared with more than 13,000 in the United States. The reason japan murtders us knifes is under strict gun laws, Japan's mass killers must rely on knives instead

How many would have died in Florida if the killer used knifes?

[davew]

Who can forget what happens at the schools in Nigeria

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-nigeria-schoolgirls

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[Clocker]

Japan had a single shooting death in 2015, compared with more than 13,000 in the United States. The reason japan murtders us knifes is under strict gun laws, Japan's mass killers must rely on knives instead

How many would have died in Florida if the killer used knifes?

A minor point: generally about 60% of US gun deaths are suicides.

A major point: if guns in general, and "assault weapons" in particular, are so evil, why did the Democrats not hold a single vote on gun control when they had complete control of both houses of Congress back when they shoved ObamaCare down our throats?

[elysiantraveller]

How many would have died in Florida if the killer used knifes?

But you can't ban guns so...

[NJ Stinks]

A minor point: generally about 60% of US gun deaths are suicides.

A major point: if guns in general, and "assault weapons" in particular, are so evil, why did the Democrats not hold a single vote on gun control when they had complete control of both houses of Congress back when they shoved ObamaCare down our throats?

Re: a major point: What's more important? Getting over 20 million Americans decent health coverage or trying to convince politicians to do something about guns?

[Clocker]

Re: a major point: What's more important? Getting over 20 million Americans decent health coverage or trying to convince politicians to do something about guns?

How many people lost their coverage because of OCare? How many of those newly "covered" went on Medicaid? (Hint: the majority.) How many of those on Medicaid still use emergency rooms because 75% of doctors do not accept Medicaid?

So the Dems squandered their once in a life time advantage in Congress to do one thing, pass a terrible "health care" bill that has been a complete failure and is dying a slow death. They ignored their big issues like DACA and immigration and gun control, and now blame conservatives for their inability to get those things done.

[hcap]

But you can't ban guns so...Unfortunately no. I admit here is a case to be made for self defense But the gun climate fostered by our culture adds to the romantic "hero", or good guy with as gun absurdities on one side and on the other a "getting even for what they did to me"

The killing leverage of firearms enables psychotic gun nuts and facilitates suicides. Ritual suicides like (harakiri) and (seppuku) are not appealing to Americans, so guns are the chosen method.

And as far as mass killings with knifes....Well don't bring a knife to a gun fight:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[JustRalph]

Really, Ralph. You are telling me one 19 year old running around with a knife or a machete could kill 17 able-bodied teenagers and adults at a high school?

You said, no guns, no mass killings. You’re wrong.

Hell yes an able bodied 19 yr old could kill 17 with a machete.

[NJ Stinks]

You said, no guns, no mass killings. You’re wrong.

Hell yes an able bodied 19 yr old could kill 17 with a machete.

Better watch it or you will be falling through that thin ice.

[davew]

You said, no guns, no mass killings. You’re wrong.

Hell yes an able bodied 19 yr old could kill 17 with a machete.

How about a bomb, or an airplane, poisonous gas, big pick-up driving over students in line for buses, or any other method that could be used to kill people.

Maybe psychiatric DRUGS should not allowed.

[woodtoo]

You said, no guns, no mass killings. You’re wrong.

Hell yes an able bodied 19 yr old could kill 17 with a machete.

And possibly more as knives are also more silent.
Its not whats in the hand as much as whats in the mind. Mental health can be lethal.
A very dear lifelong friend of mine was recently transferred from a minimum security prison to a mental care ward in a hospital. His crime? Vandalizing his next door neighbors car with spray-paint.
He has never laid a hand on anyone as far as I know but is a large imposing fellow who went off his meds. I agree that they did the right thing even though
it was a very minor charge and he owns no weapons.

[jocko699]

How about a bomb, or an airplane, poisonous gas, big pick-up driving over students in line for buses, or any other method that could be used to kill people.

Maybe psychiatric DRUGS should not allowed.

Some do more harm than good. There was a friend of ours who stopped taking Prozac and their personality completely changed for the worse.

Of course no mass killings occurred but I know there were a lot of Budweiser "dead soldiers."

[JustRalph]

Truth

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-calls-fight-for-gun-control-class-war-and-says-the-left-hates-rural-america/

Not about guns

[PaceAdvantage]

Truth

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-calls-fight-for-gun-control-class-war-and-says-the-left-hates-rural-america/

Not about gunsThere's a reason I really like Tucker Carlson...and this is prime example #1.

[woodtoo]

There's a reason I really like Tucker Carlson...and this is prime example #1.

This ties in perfectly with your comment on Chicago gun violence. Liberal Agenda.:ThmbUp:

[Tom]

Hey Stinky - go to Boston and ask them what a kid without a gun can do to a crowd of people.

Jeez, use your head.

[Tom]

Really, Ralph. You are telling me one 19 year old running around with a knife or a machete could kill 17 able-bodied teenagers and adults at a high school?

Of course. Not only could, has happened, and continues to happen.


The Chinese knife attack wounded 22 kids and an 85-year-old woman at Chenpeng village in the southern province of Guangxi. (Gun ownership is tightly controlled in China, where mass attacks usually involve men with a knife, cleaver, or machete.) The high number of casualties is just the latest in a string of school attacks, and it underscores inadequacies in the country’s antiquated—and in some places virtually non-existent—system for diagnosing and treating citizens suffering psychiatric distress.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/not-just-sandy-hook-chinas-terrifying-knife-attacks

[Tom]

Yeah, nice deflection. Knives don't kill people do.:confused:

The libs do not consider knifes to be dangerous because they,themselves, are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

[NJ Stinks]

There's a reason I really like Tucker Carlson...and this is prime example #1.


Carlson is an idiot. He was an idiot on MSNBC and he's an idiot now.

Still, I''m not surprised you like him. Perhaps he, FOX News, and Donny Boy can lead us further into being a divided nation. :jump:

:rolleyes:

[Tom]

Carlson is an idiot. He was an idiot on MSNBC and he's an idiot now.

Still, I''m not surprised you like him. Perhaps he, FOX News, and Donny Boy can lead us further into being a divided nation. :jump:

:rolleyes:

0bama divided us.
It's just that now, we don't WANT to re-unite with you.
You guys are hold us back.

buh bye.

[horses4courses]

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[Tom]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWC9B2sU8AA2g3a.jpg:small

Cool.
What kind did YOU get?

[Clocker]

Cool.
What kind did YOU get?

Probably a squirt gun. Easy to blame the squirt gun for the wet spots down the front of the clothes.

[Tom]

Hey horsey......

[Tom]

Another one for you....

[JustRalph]

Hey horsey......

Yessiree!!

[Tom]

PA - sorry about post 230 - not sure what I did wrong for the sizing.

Feel free to delete it.

[PaceAdvantage]

PA - sorry about post 230 - not sure what I did wrong for the sizing.

Feel free to delete it.Looks ok to me on the default sizing here...if you're using a smaller version it might look blown out to you...

[incoming]

I couldn't fit all that is wrong with the Democrat Party on one poster.....it takes a 5 minute video

https://www.prageru.com/playlists/most-popular#6:headbanger::popcorn:

[horses4courses]

I couldn't fit all that is wrong with the Democrat Party on one poster.....it takes a 5 minute video

https://www.prageru.com/playlists/most-popular#6:headbanger::popcorn:

Takes me no time at all not to play it :lol:

[incoming]

Democrats are famous for their closed minds, making calamities into political banter instead of working solutions and being obstructionist.:rolleyes::bang:

[Tom]

Dems never solve problems.
They only create them.

Dems are takers, users, whiners.
Dems are what happens when take a man and remove his brain, spine, and balls.

[woodtoo]

I guess the liberals took tonite off, so much to whine about so little time,:D

[OntheRail]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWUfecpU0AAE3RA.jpg
woodtoo they're looking to the future... :pound:

[horses4courses]

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[PaceAdvantage]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWUdedCU0AACLbs.jpg:smallI guess the Democrats are whores as well, because in all the 8 years Obama was in office, including the years the Dems held both houses, they didn't do squat as well...

Nice try though.

[Clocker]

I guess the Democrats are whores as well, because in all the 8 years Obama was in office, including the years the Dems held both houses, they didn't do squat as well...



More false news. The Dems introduced several gun control bills that almost made it out of committee. :jump:

[Tom]

Gun control is a political argument, not a goal of the DNC.
anyone who thinks otherwise is a blithering idiot.

Th DNC salivates at a shooting like this.
They do NOT care about the victims - only the crisis to capitalize on.