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SG4
01-18-2018, 04:27 PM
When it happens once or twice it's an anomaly, but the continuance of horses in Gulfstream's turf races who bolt inside or out when seemingly on their way to victory has got to be a concern. I think back in the day some track (maybe GP?) mentioned horses possibly ducking out when seeing a giant TV screen on the infield when it was either dark or cloudy or twilight was approaching, but there is something else up at GP. What I assume is that due to GP's extremely wide stretch & number of "turf courses" that horses get a little lost out there & maybe those temp rails aren't enough of a guide to keep their mind on business.

Either way more horses at Gulfstream have done this so far this meet than I think I can recall in the last decade in NY & CA combined (feel free to correct me if my memory is lacking on that end though). The last few years had seen a handful of these events as well at GP, but with today's equine fatality & jockey injury, maybe some real attention will be paid to keep this from happening again.

PaceAdvantage
01-18-2018, 05:09 PM
Could be the guy with the sonic gun hidden in his binoculars spooking horses he doesn't want to finish ITM...that's my theory anyway

onefast99
01-18-2018, 05:17 PM
Could be the guy with the sonic gun hidden in his binoculars spooking horses he doesn't want to finish ITM...that's my theory anyway
Has this theory been approved by the Stronach family prior to posting?

jay68802
01-18-2018, 05:21 PM
Could be the guy with the sonic gun hidden in his binoculars spooking horses he doesn't want to finish ITM...that's my theory anyway

Sonic Gun? :confused:

Well I guess I'll go with this one, it's better that aliens.

Tom
01-18-2018, 05:41 PM
That guy would be Michael Pizzola! :lol:

(a story he once told about Belmont!)

Anyone hear more on the one who bolted over the inner rail today?
Jock taken out on a stretcher?

PaceAdvantage
01-18-2018, 05:46 PM
Sonic Gun? :confused:I'm pretty sure there was a case of someone actually using some sort of sonic device (disguised as binoculars) to spook race horses in the stretch, somewhere in Europe, many moons ago...surprised it doesn't happen more...or maybe it does and nobody knows about it...

Good way to get a favorite out of the money...

affirmedny
01-18-2018, 05:52 PM
That guy would be Michael Pizzola! :lol:

(a story he once told about Belmont!)

Anyone hear more on the one who bolted over the inner rail today?
Jock taken out on a stretcher?

Horse was put down, jock moving all extremities but taken to hospital per TVG

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01-18-2018, 05:56 PM
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Tom
01-18-2018, 06:35 PM
Another 3-horse spill in the finale.
All horse up according to TVG.
Not sure on the riders yet.

What's that, two multi horse spills in two days, lus the one going over the rail?

Denny
01-18-2018, 06:46 PM
It happened a couple weeks ago when the one ticket was live to the Rainbow6.

Denny
01-18-2018, 06:47 PM
That's a gorgeous looking turf course they have there.

elhelmete
01-18-2018, 06:54 PM
It's not the sonic device, it's Cratos with his windspeed measuring thingie.

Denny
01-18-2018, 07:11 PM
Seriously, Gulf turf course looking like a mine-field, and it's only mid January.

Let's schedule even more turf races for cheap horses to get it looking even better. And keep that Rainbow gimmick going for as long as possible.

AltonKelsey
01-18-2018, 07:16 PM
Horse Race Fixed By Ultrasonic Gun


November 03, 1989
An ultrasonic gun inaudible to humans was used to scare and distract racehorses in a betting fraud scheme designed to launder drug profits, a London court heard this week.
The gun, hidden in a pair of binoculars, was used to sabotage a showpiece race at Britain`s Royal Ascot course in June, 1988.


http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
Lawyer Jonathan Goldberg showed the court binoculars in which the lenses had been removed and replaced with two high-frequency transmitting devices.
``This device subjects the passing racehorse to a sudden and terrifying noise which no human being can hear at all,`` he said.
Goldberg said the gun was used to rob jockey Greville Starkey of victory when he was three lengths ahead, the court was told.
Starkey said his horse, Ile de Chypre, veered violently to the left and threw him from the saddle as he headed for a comfortable victory.

onefast99
01-18-2018, 07:40 PM
Seriously, Gulf turf course looking like a mine-field, and it's only mid January.

Let's schedule even more turf races for cheap horses to get it looking even better. And keep that Rainbow gimmick going for as long as possible.
Minimum is 16k claimer on the turf hardly a cheap horse...

Fager Fan
01-18-2018, 07:42 PM
Horse Race Fixed By Ultrasonic Gun


November 03, 1989
An ultrasonic gun inaudible to humans was used to scare and distract racehorses in a betting fraud scheme designed to launder drug profits, a London court heard this week.
The gun, hidden in a pair of binoculars, was used to sabotage a showpiece race at Britain`s Royal Ascot course in June, 1988.


http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
Lawyer Jonathan Goldberg showed the court binoculars in which the lenses had been removed and replaced with two high-frequency transmitting devices.
``This device subjects the passing racehorse to a sudden and terrifying noise which no human being can hear at all,`` he said.
Goldberg said the gun was used to rob jockey Greville Starkey of victory when he was three lengths ahead, the court was told.
Starkey said his horse, Ile de Chypre, veered violently to the left and threw him from the saddle as he headed for a comfortable victory.

Wow. I've not heard this story before. How was he caught? It seems the last thing anyone would suspect or look for.

JohnGalt1
01-18-2018, 09:16 PM
No, it's Timothy Carey with a rifle in the parking lot.

olddaddy
01-18-2018, 11:07 PM
The GP grass course gets a lot of races now throughout the year, a grass course can only take so much.

davew
01-18-2018, 11:50 PM
When they are training, I don't think they get 3 or 4 repetitions of 4 hard whips at the same place.

ultracapper
01-19-2018, 01:12 AM
It was the first week of racing at Longacres in the late '80s. At the start of the meet they'd have all the banners up, and all the hoopla that goes along with the beginning of a new meet. Anyway, in the first 3 or 4 days, at least a half dozen horses had got all nuts going down the stretch. They couldn't figure it out. One of the promotional structures they had built near the end of the stretch had this big banner on it that, when the wind hit it just right, would snap straight out and actually make this kind of cracking sound. Seemed the horses could hear it, and/or see it, and it freaked them out. It was Gary Baze that figured it out. He was heading down the stretch about 6 wide, hopelessly out of the race, when, at the exact same time as a couple horses in front of him darted towards the rail, he caught this banner out of the corner of his eye just whip out after a gust of wind.

PaceAdvantage
01-19-2018, 01:16 AM
Horse Race Fixed By Ultrasonic Gun


November 03, 1989
An ultrasonic gun inaudible to humans was used to scare and distract racehorses in a betting fraud scheme designed to launder drug profits, a London court heard this week.
The gun, hidden in a pair of binoculars, was used to sabotage a showpiece race at Britain`s Royal Ascot course in June, 1988.

Lawyer Jonathan Goldberg showed the court binoculars in which the lenses had been removed and replaced with two high-frequency transmitting devices.
``This device subjects the passing racehorse to a sudden and terrifying noise which no human being can hear at all,`` he said.
Goldberg said the gun was used to rob jockey Greville Starkey of victory when he was three lengths ahead, the court was told.
Starkey said his horse, Ile de Chypre, veered violently to the left and threw him from the saddle as he headed for a comfortable victory.Thanks for posting this...people think I just make this shit up off the top of my head...

TiffaniO
01-19-2018, 01:29 AM
Actually on the replay it looks like the 3 on the rail and the 6 to his outside get to the spot there it looks like the tractors and gate have killed the grass, and at that point the 3 ducks in, the 6 takes a awkward step or two as he crosses it then veers out. Just my opinion... watch it closely and see what you think.

Tom
01-19-2018, 09:30 AM
I thought that truf course looks more like a corn filed - after the harvest.
People are BETTING on this? :eek:

onefast99
01-19-2018, 11:58 AM
I thought that truf course looks more like a corn filed - after the harvest.
People are BETTING on this? :eek:
I like the Gator at Tampa just waiting to make a move...

cj
01-19-2018, 12:06 PM
I thought that truf course looks more like a corn filed - after the harvest.
People are BETTING on this? :eek:

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Robert Fischer
01-19-2018, 12:27 PM
https://www.hydromousse.com/?mid=6355238

:D

That might be what they use. Spray-on...

After seeing that link, I had to bring it up on Amazon... The reviews are BAD!

Tom
01-19-2018, 12:29 PM
I like the Gator at Tampa just waiting to make a move...

"Pulled up quarter pole, eaten." :eek:

onefast99
01-20-2018, 10:34 AM
"Pulled up quarter pole, eaten." :eek:I wonder if there was ever an encounter at that track with one, I'm sure at night they hunt...