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JustRalph
01-01-2018, 05:35 PM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268842/obama-years-legacy-scandal-and-deception-ari-lieberman#.WkRBJQ-IMYk.twitter

Some list.......

davew
01-01-2018, 05:45 PM
those can't be true - I remember mostpost declaring 0bama was the first scandal free president in a long time


AND Illinois has declared August 4th Barack 0bama day - (the greatest president to spend time there since Ronald Reagan)

boxcar
01-01-2018, 05:46 PM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268842/obama-years-legacy-scandal-and-deception-ari-lieberman#.WkRBJQ-IMYk.twitter

Some list.......

Tripping on bad LSD would probably be a better experience than taking a trip down the memory lane of Obama.

mostpost
01-01-2018, 08:42 PM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268842/obama-years-legacy-scandal-and-deception-ari-lieberman#.WkRBJQ-IMYk.twitter

Some list.......
SOLYNDRA
Treasury Department Inspector General issued a report saying that Solyndra lied to federal officials, independent market analysts and a credit agency in order to obtain the loan guarantees.

There is no credible evidence that anyone in the administration benefitted from the loan guarantees.

Despite the Solyndra loss and a few other defaults the program has shown a profit as of 2014 of over $30B. Since I have heard no "Scandals" since, I suspect that profit has grown. Plus clean energy continues to expand.
Phony Scandal #1 debunked.

Veteran Affairs Scandal.
This is a scandal all right, but not an Obama scandal. Problems at the VA hospital have been going on forever.

The Wikipedia page on this states that six different investigations of this problem were taken after it came to light, including one by the White House.

Among the problems cited by one or more of those investigations were:
Unrealistic wait time goals.
Insufficient staffing
Migration of aging veterans to Sun Belt states causing an excess of veterans in those areas.

All of this led to VA schedulers falsifying data to appear to be meeting the goals. Then there was the lack of controls to prevent this from happening and the lack of oversight by higher officials to identify the problem.

Operation Chokepoint Scandal.
Right. The ideological difference of being opposed to money laundering.
Not surprising that Trump has ended the program. I'm sure it was hurting his pals in the payday loan industry.

davew
01-01-2018, 10:05 PM
We need more people like mostpost in the schools teaching kids how to disregard FAKE news

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5223125/Alarmed-fake-news-states-push-media-literacy-schools.html

Tom
01-01-2018, 10:57 PM
SOLYNDRA
Treasury Department Inspector General issued a report saying that Solyndra lied to federal officials, independent market analysts and a credit agency in order to obtain the loan guarantees.

Like Obama lied to get ACA passed.
Lots of lies surround the Kenyan Kommie.

Fager Fan
01-02-2018, 10:03 AM
SOLYNDRA
Treasury Department Inspector General issued a report saying that Solyndra lied to federal officials, independent market analysts and a credit agency in order to obtain the loan guarantees.

There is no credible evidence that anyone in the administration benefitted from the loan guarantees.

Despite the Solyndra loss and a few other defaults the program has shown a profit as of 2014 of over $30B. Since I have heard no "Scandals" since, I suspect that profit has grown. Plus clean energy continues to expand.
Phony Scandal #1 debunked.
.

Actually, Phony Defense debunked.

$30b profit? No way, I thought, so did some searching. As expected, you're so far off the mark that it's comical. Did you mean $30m? Even that isn't correct, though, given the interest the gov has to pay on the loan to international investors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/11/18/wonkbook-why-the-claim-that-the-solyndra-program-earned-money-may-have-been-misleading/?utm_term=.82527bb119c8

davew
01-02-2018, 10:46 AM
Actually, Phony Defense debunked.

$30b profit? No way, I thought, so did some searching. As expected, you're so far off the mark that it's comical. Did you mean $30m? Even that isn't correct, though, given the interest the gov has to pay on the loan to international investors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/11/18/wonkbook-why-the-claim-that-the-solyndra-program-earned-money-may-have-been-misleading/?utm_term=.82527bb119c8


Who cares about profit when you can make up for it with volume?

mostpost
01-03-2018, 12:47 AM
Actually, Phony Defense debunked.

$30b profit? No way, I thought, so did some searching. As expected, you're so far off the mark that it's comical. Did you mean $30m? Even that isn't correct, though, given the interest the gov has to pay on the loan to international investors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/11/18/wonkbook-why-the-claim-that-the-solyndra-program-earned-money-may-have-been-misleading/?utm_term=.82527bb119c8
Yes, $30,000,000 is correct. My Mistake on the $30B.
The same article says this; Relative to the massive scale of the loans, the program is close to breaking even either way, but there's still a difference between profit and loss.
Dawn Selak, an Energy Department spokeswoman, said the goal of the agency's loan program was "not to make a profit," but that officials were managing the program in a fiscally responsible way.
and:
While Marron rejects what he calls the agency's "spin," he essentially agrees. He says the loans were intended to encourage private-sector research into clean technology. By the government's reckoning, the loan program has prevented some 14 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions. The fact that the loans are losing money is, in itself, "not an indictment" of the program, he said in an interview.

The fact is there were a few loans which went bad-particularly Solyndra-but there were many more which have been paid off with interest. If we lose a few million dollars, that is nothing compared to the benefits of a clean energy program.

davew
01-03-2018, 01:44 AM
Million Billion Trillion Quadrillion Septillion its all relative



I wonder how many million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions would be prevented if illegal residents did not live in the USA?

OntheRail
01-03-2018, 11:41 AM
MoPo goes from 30mil in profit... to gonna breakeven... to we never expected a profit... to we knew we'd lose tons of cash... but we guesstimated the tons of hot air to be very high. Way to sqare that circle Cliff... :pound:

JustRalph
01-03-2018, 02:23 PM
Obama donors absconded with millions

woodtoo
02-10-2018, 02:56 PM
Obama's official campaign paid $972,000.00 to law firm Perkins Coie to fund GPSFusion Steele dossier since April 2016.
So we have FBI ?$, DNC $5.4 million Hilary $5.1 million and Obama paying $million$ for fake Russian based dossier, this adds up to collusion and obstruction by all.
Someone got rich.:pound:

boxcar
02-10-2018, 03:12 PM
Obama's official campaign paid $972,000.00 to law firm Perkins Coie to fund GPSFusion Steele dossier since April 2016.
So we have FBI ?$, DNC $5.4 million Hilary $5.1 million and Obama paying $million$ for fake Russian based dossier, this adds up to collusion and obstruction by all.
Someone got rich.:pound:

Someone, Shirely, got rich and the dimwits didn't get the result they so desperately wanted. Not much value for all that heavy spending... :coffee:

PaceAdvantage
02-10-2018, 03:19 PM
Obama's official campaign paid $972,000.00 to law firm Perkins Coie to fund GPSFusion Steele dossier since April 2016.
So we have FBI ?$, DNC $5.4 million Hilary $5.1 million and Obama paying $million$ for fake Russian based dossier, this adds up to collusion and obstruction by all.
Someone got rich.:pound:Why were these guys so afraid of Trump back then? I thought they were all prancing around under some delusion that Hillary was a lock...but here they are paying tons of cash for some dossier...strange...guess all that deluded confidence was just a front, if they were all scrambling to pay big money for oppo research...

woodtoo
02-10-2018, 03:30 PM
Why were these guys so afraid of Trump back then? I thought they were all prancing around under some delusion that Hillary was a lock...but here they are paying tons of cash for some dossier...strange...guess all that deluded confidence was just a front, if they were all scrambling to pay big money for oppo research...

They wanted to destroy the man his brand and his family even if he lost.
As a warning to any and all others who dared challenge their authority.
As Donald said many times at his rally's " there are $Trillians at stake"

davew
02-10-2018, 04:03 PM
Why were these guys so afraid of Trump back then? I thought they were all prancing around under some delusion that Hillary was a lock...but here they are paying tons of cash for some dossier...strange...guess all that deluded confidence was just a front, if they were all scrambling to pay big money for oppo research...


op research, so they could find crap to release to the media to help discredit him and his chance in the election.

it wasn't 0bama's campaign fund (no longer running for office), he converted it to some other thing (to help righteous causes).

Boris
02-10-2018, 10:15 PM
Why were these guys so afraid of Trump back then? I thought they were all prancing around under some delusion that Hillary was a lock...but here they are paying tons of cash for some dossier...strange...guess all that deluded confidence was just a front, if they were all scrambling to pay big money for oppo research...

They did think she was a lock. They also knew she could stroke out at any minute. The Hag was not healthy for the last six months of the battle.

chadk66
02-10-2018, 10:50 PM
I don't understand why they spent so much money for this dossier if they thought Hillary was a lock. They certainly didn't need it for her to win in their eyes. Or did they know something we didn't.

elysiantraveller
02-10-2018, 11:26 PM
I don't understand why they spent so much money for this dossier if they thought Hillary was a lock. They certainly didn't need it for her to win in their eyes. Or did they know something we didn't.

Because it's due diligence to dig into the skeletons of your opponents closets.

This type of stuff happens in every major race in the country.

JustRalph
02-10-2018, 11:27 PM
Why were these guys so afraid of Trump back then? I thought they were all prancing around under some delusion that Hillary was a lock...but here they are paying tons of cash for some dossier...strange...guess all that deluded confidence was just a front, if they were all scrambling to pay big money for oppo research...

Internal polling. I knew he had a good chance when they canceled the fireworks 2 days before the election. They knew.......

PaceAdvantage
02-11-2018, 01:15 AM
Because it's due diligence to dig into the skeletons of your opponents closets.

This type of stuff happens in every major race in the country.Oh. Oh. Oh. Wow. I did not know that.

Thanks for the eye-opener

elysiantraveller
02-11-2018, 01:27 AM
Oh. Oh. Oh. Wow. I did not know that.

Thanks for the eye-opener

I guess I'm not following.

You are surprised the dossier was ordered because Hillary was viewed as a lock? :confused:

PaceAdvantage
02-11-2018, 01:31 AM
I guess I'm not following.

You are surprised the dossier was ordered because Hillary was viewed as a lock? :confused:Is spending that kind of money and using (former) foreign spies the usual path most oppo research takes in a presidential campaign? Maybe I'm naive like that, but that seems a little above and beyond to me...

elysiantraveller
02-11-2018, 01:51 AM
Is spending that kind of money and using (former) foreign spies the usual path most oppo research takes in a presidential campaign? Maybe I'm naive like that, but that seems a little above and beyond to me...

Not naive but think about it.

You have near limitless funds at your disposal you have a security concern. Are you going to hire some corporate security company like Securitas for protection? Or are you going to call Blackwater and get some recently out of the service high level operators like SEALs/Ranger/SAS types?

Same scenario except this time you want information and want the best at getting it.

PaceAdvantage
02-11-2018, 02:13 AM
None of it seems to have worked...yet...

davew
02-11-2018, 12:59 PM
did he change policy or just lie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reBPTRRQZU0