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linrom1
12-26-2017, 04:14 PM
Now we know where the fault lies---and its not Arrogate. What a joke, the guy along with Baffert never miss opportunity to stiff bettors.

RunForTheRoses
12-26-2017, 04:24 PM
Now we know where the fault lies---and its not Arrogate. What a joke, the guy along with Baffert never miss opportunity to stiff bettors.

Yeah, he goes to the lead at Del Mar on a suspect, likely closer favoring track, but here is Silky Sullivan. Not necessarily Smith's fault, Baffert may have wanted a Pegasus prep.

GMB@BP
12-26-2017, 04:53 PM
I bet against him, as I would imagine most serious players because this race wasnt that important.

With that said I had a fast race design, not a slow one, not sure how the 4-5-6 all decided that they would be best off rating, and the 3 three who had come off the pace had was on the lead.

Afleet
12-26-2017, 07:22 PM
It doesn't matter who you bet on, that was piss poor. Collected should have been in the lead by 5 lengths after a 1/2 in 48.0

GMB@BP
12-26-2017, 07:24 PM
It doesn't matter who you bet on, that was piss poor. Collected should have been in the lead by 5 lengths after a 1/2 in 48.0

Hoping that leads to some value when I actually do bet him, likely next out.

Lemon Drop Husker
12-26-2017, 07:42 PM
I bet against him, as I would imagine most serious players because this race wasnt that important.

With that said I had a fast race design, not a slow one, not sure how the 4-5-6 all decided that they would be best off rating, and the 3 three who had come off the pace had was on the lead.

I was on the same boat in which I felt the :4: might get the easy lead as :5::6: might let him go cuz of no concern of him winning.

Instead....

:3: gets the lead with Gary Stevens on board and crawls to absurd splits for this quality of horses and has more engine than a Ferrari left for the stretch. :puke:

cj
12-26-2017, 07:49 PM
Hoping that leads to some value when I actually do bet him, likely next out.


That is all you can do really. I hate rides like that but what else can you do?

Lemon Drop Husker
12-26-2017, 07:58 PM
That is all you can do really. I hate rides like that but what else can you do?

What will be the ridiculous over-corrections be for a day full of 2YOs and 3YOs?

classhandicapper
12-26-2017, 08:31 PM
Sometimes you really have to wonder what they were thinking. :confused:

luisbe
12-26-2017, 08:53 PM
Sometimes you really have to wonder what they were thinking. :confused:

"It was a bad ride. It was my fault," said Smith, who took over riding Collected for Martin Garcia, who relocated to New York. "I slipped leaving the gate. We should have been on the lead. Then they were going too slow and we couldn't get there in the end."

cj
12-26-2017, 09:04 PM
"It was a bad ride. It was my fault," said Smith, who took over riding Collected for Martin Garcia, who relocated to New York. "I slipped leaving the gate. We should have been on the lead. Then they were going too slow and we couldn't get there in the end."

He should have just zipped it after the "my fault" part.

jay68802
12-26-2017, 09:10 PM
"It was a bad ride. It was my fault," said Smith, who took over riding Collected for Martin Garcia, who relocated to New York. "I slipped leaving the gate. We should have been on the lead. Then they were going too slow and we couldn't get there in the end."

Translation:

"My bad, please give me another chance to ride this horse."

Afleet
12-26-2017, 09:39 PM
Translation:

"My bad, please give me another chance to ride this horse."

whatever happened to the good gate jockeys like P-VAL and Jorge Chavez of the past?

SandyW
12-27-2017, 01:25 AM
whatever happened to the good gate jockeys like P-VAL and Jorge Chavez of the past?

Exactly right, those great gate jockeys are in the past. Purses are so big today the trying to blast out of the gate is not what it use to be.

AstrosFan
12-29-2017, 08:05 PM
whatever happened to the good gate jockeys like P-VAL and Jorge Chavez of the past?

P Val :lol:

PaceAdvantage
12-29-2017, 10:12 PM
Now we know where the fault lies---and its not Arrogate. What a joke, the guy along with Baffert never miss opportunity to stiff bettors.Serious question. Do you ever win a bet?

GMB@BP
12-29-2017, 10:29 PM
Serious question. Do you ever win a bet?

Big assumption that bets are made from them.

airford1
12-30-2017, 11:42 AM
I'm sure Bob Baffert wanted testify the bettors on opening day with Collected. Please.