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JustRalph
12-07-2017, 01:15 AM
https://nypost.com/2017/12/06/nyc-bigs-blast-republican-gun-bill/

NY brings up the same old lies

FantasticDan
12-07-2017, 01:33 AM
Short video of a Republican congressman meeting with an NRA lobbyist:

https://youtu.be/58JrxLL3u2s

Clocker
12-07-2017, 01:59 AM
NY brings up the same old lies

One of the biggest lies is the insistence of the left that expanding the scope and options of gun permits is a major threat to life and limb. My experience is that people with permits are the most fanatical about gun safety. And the higher the level of permit, and the greater the training required, the more concern for safety for self and others.

The other big lie is the one about the NRA controlling Congress on gun issues, using the big bucks to buy votes. The NRA is not a big player in the political money arena. It gets its power from the votes of its members. The NRA is about delivering votes, not bucks. Despite whines from the left, that is how the system is supposed to work.

Tom
12-07-2017, 10:51 AM
This is NY, Ralph, run by a Cuomo.
The Cuomo Crime family are professional liars.
Little Andy is surpassing his worthless father.

xtb
12-07-2017, 02:46 PM
The other big lie is the one about the NRA controlling Congress on gun issues, using the big bucks to buy votes. The NRA is not a big player in the political money arena. It gets its power from the votes of its members. The NRA is about delivering votes, not bucks. Despite whines from the left, that is how the system is supposed to work.

With Grover Norquist still on the NRA board, we are much better off putting our support behind the GOA instead. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

zico20
12-07-2017, 02:57 PM
It is ironic how liberals are screaming for states rights on this concealed carry. If they are to defeat this bill from becoming law they will go right back to saying the federal government should be making the rules and states do not have any authority.

If your drivers license is valid in all fifty states and that is a privilege, a constitutional right to own a gun should be valid in all fifty states.

JustRalph
12-07-2017, 03:53 PM
It is ironic how liberals are screaming for states rights on this concealed carry. If they are to defeat this bill from becoming law they will go right back to saying the federal government should be making the rules and states do not have any authority.

If your drivers license is valid in all fifty states and that is a privilege, a constitutional right to own a gun should be valid in all fifty states.

Requiring a license for a constitutional right is unconstitutional "everywhere" in the US

Tom
12-07-2017, 04:28 PM
A concealed weapon means the government has no GD right know we have it.

chadk66
12-07-2017, 08:10 PM
why do we need any gun laws, Kali just proved they won't be enforced anyway.