Feinstein gun bill, deja vu

[Clocker]

Predictably, Diane Feinstein and 22 Democratic Senators are introducing yet another bill to ban "assault weapons". The bill would ban AR-15s, AK-47s, and other guns that look evil, as well as high capacity magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. Existing weapons and magazines would be grandfathered, but could not be transferred.

Pretty much admitting that the bill does not have a snowball's chance in hell of passing, Feinstein essentially says the purpose of the bill is to wave it around after any shooting and blame the Republicans for not passing it.

Feinstein indicated she knows the bill has little chance of moving in the Republican-controlled Senate. It is co-sponsored by 22 Democrats, including Feinstein's fellow California Sen. Kamala Harris.

Feinstein said in a statement that she introduced the bill so “the American people will know that a tool to reduce these massacres is sitting in the Senate, ready for debate and a vote."
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/11/08/feinstein-company-introduce-new-assault-weapon-ban-bill/

[Inner Dirt]

If you added up every civilian killed by a so called assault weapon it would not hold a candle to the amount of people killed with knives. Most of these anti gun politicians wouldn't know a 30-30 from an air rifle that shoots BBs. Why anyone would listen to them is beyond me.

[thaskalos]

If you added up every civilian killed by a so called assault weapon it would not hold a candle to the amount of people killed with knives.

What causes more fatalities...smoking, or driving without a seat-belt? And yet...the former is legal, while the latter is prohibited.

[Inner Dirt]

What causes more fatalities...smoking, or driving without a seat-belt? And yet...the former is legal, while the latter is prohibited.

Taking it literally driving without a seat belt does. The amount of people that were unbelted and died in auto accidents where the belt would have saved them are substantial compared to someone who dropped dead in the process of smoking a cigarette. :lol:

You know what I mean, whatever an "assault rifle" is they are demonized way beyond the damage they cause. I would like to see how many civilian deaths (not related to war like conflicts) they cause. It is probably about as high as someone choking while eating.

[zico20]

Have you noticed that the Democrats do not introduce a ban on immigration after one of them plows a truck into people. They do not mind a few massacres by illegals, but guns are a whole another story.:ThmbDown:

[thaskalos]

Taking it literally driving without a seat belt does. The amount of people that were unbelted and died in auto accidents where the belt would have saved them are substantial compared to someone who dropped dead in the process of smoking a cigarette. :lol:

You know what I mean, whatever an "assault rifle" is they are demonized way beyond the damage they cause. I would like to see how many civilian deaths (not related to war like conflicts) they cause. It is probably about as high as someone choking while eating.

The assault-rifle murders come in bunches...that's why they they are "demonized" more. Isn't the serial-murderer demonized more than the "one-time" killer?

[Inner Dirt]

The assault-rifle murders come in bunches...that's why they they are "demonized" more. Isn't the serial-murderer demonized more than the "one-time" killer?

Thing is with assault rifle mass murders the weapon is demonized more than the killer, with serial murders the murderer is the one demonized. The weapon is mentioned so many times and harped on by the media the actual name of the murderer is quickly forgotten by the masses, but everyone remembers he used an "assault rifle."

If I say "Boston Strangler" I am pretty sure Albert DeSalvo comes up and that was what 50 years ago? How many people could name his weapon of choice?

If I say "Las Vegas Massacre" how many people say Stephen Paddock? That was a couple months ago and I bet few remember his name, but they all remember "assault rifle."

[boxcar]

What causes more fatalities...smoking, or driving without a seat-belt? And yet...the former is legal, while the latter is prohibited.

Of course. The former is taxed heavily, while the latter is not taxed at all. Just follow the money...

[Parkview_Pirate]

When Fed government fails - well, let's bribe the state governments then...


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/senators-near-bipartisan-deal-gun-control-sources-say-n821256

Because the federal government can't force states to comply with uploading requirements, it creates incentives like grants for states to do so. It also adds accountability measures like withholding political appointees bonuses for agencies that fail to do so. The bill also directs federal funds to ensure that domestic violence crimes are added to the background-check system.

This is the third attempt to fix the background-check reporting system since 1995. The NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 provided millions to encourage the states to improve their data sharing. That was preceded by The National Criminal History Improvement Program, the first effort to give the states an incentive to report more records.

Another example of why another law, and more government should be the last option considered. More tax dollars down the tube, and as usual - no accountability. "Withholding bonuses" when jail is in order is not holding violators accountable.

[Clocker]

This is the third attempt to fix the background-check reporting system since 1995. The NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 provided millions to encourage the states to improve their data sharing. That was preceded by The National Criminal History Improvement Program, the first effort to give the states an incentive to report more records.

They can't pass bills that work, so the fix is to pass more bills. :faint:

The Feinstein bill would require a background check if someone loans a gun to another.

And another genius, can't remember who, is proposing a bill that would require a 7 day waiting period for guns or gun accessories, down to and including magazines. (For the libs here, the magazine is the clippy-thing that holds the cartridges, known to libs as "bullets".)

[Mulerider]

(For the libs here, the magazine is the clippy-thing that holds the cartridges, known to libs as "bullets".)

A noble effort at education, Clocker, but probably in vain.

Did you read the reports today that Gabby Gifford's gun control group is calling for muzzle loading rifles to be regulated? They seem to be fretting about the "deadly .50 caliber bullet" that some of them use. (Which includes reproductions of the standard issue .58 caliber rifles used by both sides in the Civil War, with which a well-trained soldier, under perfect non-combat conditions, could get off 3 rounds per minute.)

Curiously, Ms. Gifford's group failed to document any murders that have been committed by muzzle loading rifles in the last 100 years.


Mule

[davew]

Feinstein not getting backing from California Democrat Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tmB1WlToQ

[PaceAdvantage]

Feinstein not getting backing from California Democrat Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tmB1WlToQPretty good rant I say...knocked it out of the park in analyzing the current state of the party of Democrats.