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RunForTheRoses
11-03-2017, 03:53 PM
Looks atrocious. Just sayin'.

PaceAdvantage
11-03-2017, 04:29 PM
I was thinking same watching today

Tom
11-03-2017, 05:31 PM
Reminded me of a pool table in a real dive I used to drink at back in '71.

therussmeister
11-03-2017, 06:12 PM
Can't figure out why a place with so much rain has such crappy looking turf courses

Tom
11-03-2017, 06:14 PM
I suspect they spend next to nothing in time or $$$ for any upkeep there. Do they even time the races? :rolleyes:

Thomas Roulston
11-03-2017, 07:47 PM
The GPW turf course is off-center relative to the dirt - which makes you cross-eyed watching horses run on it.

Mountaineer Park is the same way - but say this for Mountaineer: It has a 7-furlong turf course and they run 7-furlong turf races on it! Fort Erie does too, and so does Turf Paradise - so long as it stays in business, which might not be for much longer.

thespaah
11-03-2017, 09:59 PM
Very poor agronomy practices.
Give me that turf course and a decent maintenance budget for a growing season and I'll have it back to where it should be.

thespaah
11-03-2017, 10:08 PM
I suspect they spend next to nothing in time or $$$ for any upkeep there. Do they even time the races? :rolleyes:

Bingo!!
I see that wasteland of a turf course and I see a limited maintenance budget

thespaah
11-03-2017, 10:14 PM
Can't figure out why a place with so much rain has such crappy looking turf courses

Water is just one requirement.
Good fertilization, Soil additives that encourage deeper root growth.
Overseeding with another more durable bermudagrass hybrid.
A heavy application of iron.

CincyHorseplayer
11-03-2017, 10:28 PM
I played there last year on BC weekend and was looking forward to it again til I saw it the other day. It looked like somebody burnt the damn thing. Pathetic. The other Gulfstream shreds their course with overracing too. It's a shame.

onefast99
11-04-2017, 12:28 PM
We raced on the turf last week my horse hated it. We raced on the main track yesterday and finished 2nd, big difference.

Thomas Roulston
11-04-2017, 04:57 PM
I liked it better when it was Calder - all the way around.

BIG49010
11-04-2017, 10:14 PM
Looked more like dirt than turf!!!

magwell
11-05-2017, 12:40 AM
On the bright side, it gives GP two months off and will help its turf course by opening day Dec 2nd .......;)

GMB@BP
11-05-2017, 12:52 AM
Isnt this a case that the summer grass (bermuda) is dying out and needs to be overseeded? I assume the meet is coming to an end soon and there is no reason to do that process.

I refuse to bet that track with that goofy camera angle.

pandy
11-05-2017, 01:18 AM
It does seem odd. They shouldn't be racing on grass the last couple of months before the Gulfstream meet, give it time to heal.

magwell
11-05-2017, 01:33 AM
It does seem odd. They shouldn't be racing on grass the last couple of months before the Gulfstream meet, give it time to heal.That's what I said by racing at Calder Oct and Nov GP gets two months to heal........:)

barahona44
11-05-2017, 12:11 PM
8I liked it better when it was Calder - all the way around.

Maybe they should name Gulfstream Calder Race Course East.:)

pandy
11-05-2017, 12:18 PM
That's what I said by racing at Calder Oct and Nov GP gets two months to heal........:)


Exactly. They should just stop turf racing for a while.

onefast99
11-06-2017, 12:02 PM
Very poor agronomy practices.
Give me that turf course and a decent maintenance budget for a growing season and I'll have it back to where it should be.
I'm sure you realize Calder just leases the spot to Stronach(so they can maintain the casino status), they aren't putting a penny into it, if Frank wants to spend a few grand to make the track better that is up to him. Until then the turf course looks like a sandlot from Bad News Bears...and they have another 4 weeks of racing on it.

Tom
11-06-2017, 12:39 PM
Stronach put in a multi-million dollar sprinkler system to water the turf course at "Calder." It is controlled on and off by the official timing system at the track.

CincyHorseplayer
11-06-2017, 02:40 PM
Florida racing should put and end to this. Pull some dates from Gulfstream and give them to Hialeah. Problem solved!

onefast99
11-06-2017, 04:01 PM
Florida racing should put and end to this. Pull some dates from Gulfstream and give them to Hialeah. Problem solved!And you think the track at Hialeah is in better shape? Also Calder would lose the ability to operate the casino if they don't have 40 days of racing. Brunetti and Stronach would never agree to do anything together.

therussmeister
11-09-2017, 05:26 PM
Florida racing should put and end to this. Pull some dates from Gulfstream and give them to Hialeah. Problem solved!

What takeout rate would Hialeah use. Last time they ran thoroughbreds Hialeah's rates made Parx look like they were giving away free money.

CincyHorseplayer
11-10-2017, 01:52 PM
With no grandstand and a turf course that looks like it got hit by wildfires, GPW doesn't deserve dates. Especially when it's obvious why they want them and put forth such little effort. Even a razed Hialeah looks better than this place. The Florida racing commission can't dictate dates and takeout? Then what good are they for?