New Navarro Trouble

[Fager Fan]

Got the ruling via attachment on text so can't copy. The hearing was on Oct 17.

Monmouth ruling from race in June where winner George Cross tested positive for 3 drugs, two of which were cocaine and morphine.

His penalty? A $2,500 fine.

That's a real deterrent, right? It should have at least another 0 on the end, and for those particular drugs, I'm not sure it isn't worthy of two 0s on the end.

What a joke.

[BrentT]

Screen shot it and post it here please.

[onefast99]

Got the ruling via attachment on text so can't copy. The hearing was on Oct 17.

Monmouth ruling from race in June where winner George Cross tested positive for 3 drugs, two of which were cocaine and morphine.

His penalty? A $2,500 fine.

That's a real deterrent, right? It should have at least another 0 on the end, and for those particular drugs, I'm not sure it isn't worthy of two 0s on the end.

What a joke.
Horrendous decision by those in charge at MP first of all they waited for a long period of time to release this and they didn't suspend the trainer or rule the horse off. Again another black eye for the good ole boys at MP who as of now have acted like team of cover up specialists. I can hear Jorge now "I will defend this vigorously" really?

[Fager Fan]

Seeing if this works

[alhattab]

Horrendous decision by those in charge at MP first of all they waited for a long period of time to release this and they didn't suspend the trainer or rule the horse off. Again another black eye for the good ole boys at MP who as of now have acted like team of cover up specialists. I can hear Jorge now "I will defend this vigorously" really?

This is NJRC ruling not MP correct?

[jocko699]

Seeing if this works

Beyond corrupt IMO.

[thaskalos]

Seeing if this works

The link says that the $2,500 fine was as a result of "investigative evidence", and "mitigating circumstances". Are the customers ever told what these are?

[ReplayRandall]

This is NJRC ruling not MP correct?


From Racing Commissioners International ...


Name: JORGE I NAVARRO
Ruling Date: 10/18/2017
Jurisdiction: New Jersey Racing Commission
Facility: Monmouth Park
Ruling Number: 17-MON-65
Ruling Type: Medication/Drug Violation - Animal
Breed: Thoroughbred
Division: Horse
Fine Amount: $ 2500
Fine Paid: N
Suspension Start:
Suspension End:
Ruling Text: A formal hearing was held on October 17, 2017 for trainer Jorge Navarro in connection with a positive test result which was confirmed by split sample for Benzoylecgonine, Cocaine and Morphine for the horse "GEORGE CROSS" who finished first in the 5th race at Monmouth Park on June 17, 2017. Based on the levels of the foreign substances and other investigative evidence obtained by the New Jersey Racing Commission, which includes mitigating circumstances, trainer Jorge Navarro is hereby fined the sum of two thousand five hundred ($2,500.00) dollars.

Violation of N.J.A.C. 13:70-14A.1 Intent of medication rules; general provisions

Violation of N.J.A.C. 13:70-14A.6 Trainers

Violation of N.J.A.C. OF 13:70-20.7 Trainer responsibilities

"GEORGE CROSS" is hereby disqualified from sharing in the purse.

[Mulerider]

The link says that the $2,500 fine was as a result of "investigative evidence", and "mitigating circumstances". Are the customers ever told what these are?

I'd be particularly interested in reading those "mitigating circumstances."

[Afleet]

He is just misunderstood. He works harder than everyone else and people are just jealous;)

[cj]

Title is a bit misleading, doesn't sound like much trouble at all to me.

[onefast99]

This is NJRC ruling not MP correct?
Correct ...with a wink....I have spoken to both of my trainers and they are livid that this would be tolerated with everything that happened in Tampa and positives that he is "vigorously defending" but again the carpet at MP seems to be very large and what gets swept under it wont affect anyone, but since we have many who are sick of this maybe just maybe there will be a ruling in the near future to get rid of individuals who continue to take advantage of a frail system. Time for Dennis Drazin to stand up and take a position against this type of offender while he still commands the respect of the horseman!

[upthecreek]

http://www.drf.com/news/navarro-appealing-post-race-cocaine-positive-monmouth

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Correct ...with a wink....I have spoken to both of my trainers and they are livid that this would be tolerated with everything that happened in Tampa and positives that he is "vigorously defending" but again the carpet at MP seems to be very large and what gets swept under it wont affect anyone, but since we have many who are sick of this maybe just maybe there will be a ruling in the near future to get rid of individuals who continue to take advantage of a frail system. Time for Dennis Drazin to stand up and take a position against this type of offender while he still commands the respect of the horseman!

Dennis Drazin to Fast,his trainers and the rest of the racing world-
"Navarro is welcome back at Monmouth Park next year. We are worried about the integrity of Monmouth Park, but we don't think this warrants us telling him not come back next year."

That is his way of saying STFU. I am doing things MY WAY.

[cj]

Wonder what the Breeders' Cup will do, or maybe they already quietly did it?

https://twitter.com/JorgeNavarroRS/status/921148505858691072

The link to the "story" has since been deleted, but I found these:

http://www.drf.com/news/el-deal-miss-bc-sprint-suspensory-injury

https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/Navarro_trained_El_Deal_to_pass_on_Breeders_Cup_Sp rint_123

He does have two more probables, Sharp Azteca and War Story.

[Fager Fan]

When everyone claims contamination how do we separate the real contaminations from the fake ones?

This frustrates me to no end. Put me in charge of drug testing and weeding out the cheats. No one could convince me that this is that hard to do. It just takes the determination to do.

[onefast99]

When everyone claims contamination how do we separate the real contaminations from the fake ones?

This frustrates me to no end. Put me in charge of drug testing and weeding out the cheats. No one could convince me that this is that hard to do. It just takes the determination to do.
I highly doubt we will ever be privy to a racing commissions reason for their ruling based on what type of "mitigating circumstances" I'm sure there was some sort of deal cut and a stern warning to never do this again. How do you have any "mitigating circumstances" for morphine? That one is beyond comprehension.

[Tom]

$2,500 as an investment to win a million dollar BC race.
Good business strategy.

NYRA still letting him run there?
This one ruling alone should keep him off all tracks forever.

[upthecreek]

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/regulation-us-racing-letter-makes-shocking-reading/

[Niko]

Let's not forget his betting profits along the way :popcorn:

While not as large, I'm sure it's a very nice supplemental income. Maybe even better than Dutrow's

[thaskalos]

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/regulation-us-racing-letter-makes-shocking-reading/

Are we gullible enough to actually believe that these widespread cheating practices, and the "look-the-other-way" tactics of the drug-testing personnel...are somehow confined to the state of Pennsylvania? What's to stop this criminal behavior from occurring every place else?

We've always wondered why the "honest" horsemen don't take a more proactive stance against the known backstretch "cheaters" in this game...and now we get a hint of why that might be. It's quite possible that there might not be any "honest" horsemen left. As the saying goes: "If you can't beat them...then you join them". Because today's racino money is too good to pass up.

[lamboguy]

Are we gullible enough to actually believe that these widespread cheating practices, and the "look-the-other-way" tactics of the drug-testing personnel...are somehow confined to the state of Pennsylvania? What's to stop this criminal behavior from occurring every place else?

We've always wondered why the "honest" horsemen don't take a more proactive stance against the known backstretch "cheaters" in this game...and now we get a hint of why that might be. It's quite possible that there might not be any "honest" horsemen left. As the saying goes: "If you can't beat them...then you join them". Because today's racino money is too good to pass up.i would love to know how some of the Ohio horsemen get away with things. sometimes i wonder if they got the stewards in their pockets.

[thaskalos]

Money corrupts...and BIG money corrupts absolutely.

[Fager Fan]

Are we gullible enough to actually believe that these widespread cheating practices, and the "look-the-other-way" tactics of the drug-testing personnel...are somehow confined to the state of Pennsylvania? What's to stop this criminal behavior from occurring every place else?

We've always wondered why the "honest" horsemen don't take a more proactive stance against the known backstretch "cheaters" in this game...and now we get a hint of why that might be. It's quite possible that there might not be any "honest" horsemen left. As the saying goes: "If you can't beat them...then you join them". Because today's racino money is too good to pass up.

That's part of it. The other is that then you'll have to start worrying about what others may do to your horses.

[timp]

Has to be more to it stewards would throw book at him otherwise.

[timp]

Horseman are no different today than years ago .No different than any other business there are honest people as you call them and there are those that wish to push the envelope a little farther than the next guy.

[Fager Fan]

Has to be more to it stewards would throw book at him otherwise.

I'd love to hear the "mitigating circumstances" that somehow innocently have your horse show up with morphine and cocaine in its system.

[Prioress Ply]

It's a good thing $2,500 isn't a slap on poor Jorge's wrist.