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Clocker
10-17-2017, 04:12 PM
Oh, and throw in the FBI, Eric Holder and Bill Clinton, just to round up the usual cast of suspects.

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.
All of this was known before Obama's Committee on Foreign Investment approved the controversial transfer of US uranium assets to Russia. Hillary and Holder were on that committee.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

boxcar
10-17-2017, 04:27 PM
Oh, and throw in the FBI, Eric Holder and Bill Clinton, just to round up the usual cast of suspects.

All of this was known before Obama's Committee on Foreign Investment approved the controversial transfer of US uranium assets to Russia. Hillary and Holder were on that committee.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

In other words, Holder and Crew sat on the open investigation for the duration of the deal. Cute.

Clocker
10-17-2017, 10:23 PM
In other words, Holder and Crew sat on the open investigation for the duration of the deal. Cute.

But as Obama and Comey said about Hillary's server, there was no intent to do wrong. :faint:

reckless
10-17-2017, 10:59 PM
It's time for Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and indict all of these traitors:

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman Schults, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, James Clapper, John Brennan for their treasonous roles in the Uranium One scandals, and any ancillary crimes, especially pertaining to both Clintons and their Foundation.

Sessions must also end this Trump-Russia collusion hoax tomorrow, fire Mueller, and name a trust worthy Special Presecutor to investigate The Clinton Foundation and their part in the Uranium One deal with Russia.

If he doesn't, then Sessions must resign himself or be fired.

ReplayRandall
10-17-2017, 11:07 PM
It's time for Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and indict all of these traitors:

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman Schults, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, James Clapper, John Brennan for their treasonous roles in the Uranium One scandals, and any ancillary crimes, especially pertaining to both Clintons and their Foundation.

Sessions must also end this Trump-Russia collusion hoax tomorrow, fire Mueller, and name a trust worthy Special Presecutor to investigate The Clinton Foundation and their part in the Uranium One deal with Russia.

If he doesn't, then Sessions must resign himself or be fired.

No, no, Mueller must immediately drop the investigation himself, saying he could not find enough on Trump to indict, or go after the Clintons as a special counsel investigator, OR BOTH.....All the heat goes on Mueller to indict the Clintons and lowlife Comey.

fast4522
10-17-2017, 11:11 PM
President Donald J. Trump delivered the message himself, "Be careful because at some point I fight back". Now most think the message was for John McCain, but it was to all who dare to defy him. I expect some will heed the warning, I also expect that an example will have to be made long before those incumbents get primaryed.

reckless
10-17-2017, 11:17 PM
No, no, Mueller must immediately drop the investigation himself, saying he could not find enough on Trump to indict, or go after the Clintons as a special counsel investigator, OR BOTH.....All the heat goes on Mueller to indict the Clintons and lowlife Comey.

Randall... you need to know a few things... Mueller and Rosenstein ignored the criminality of the Uranium One deal even while the deal was under FBI investigation! They are political operatives and NOT public servants.

They need to be fired and arrested for treason.

ReplayRandall
10-17-2017, 11:26 PM
Randall... you need to know a few things... Mueller and Rosenstein ignored the criminality of the Uranium One deal even while the deal was under FBI investigation! They are political operatives and NOT public servants.

They need to be fired and arrested for treason.

Nah...I prefer the way Trump's going to give Mueller the big squeeze before he skewers him, rotisserie style....It's the Trump way of handling business, it's nothing personal, don't you know?....:pound::rip::pound:

woodtoo
10-18-2017, 09:19 AM
So Mueller is investigating himself and his boss Rosenstein. What could go wrong.:pound:

Clocker
10-18-2017, 11:08 AM
In the original investigation, the information about the Russian deals came from a US businessman who was working as an FBI informant.

When the man wanted to talk to Congress about further corruption, he was threatened with prosecution and prison by the Obama Justice Dept.

An American businessman who worked for years undercover as an FBI confidential witness was blocked by the Obama Justice Department from telling Congress about conversations and transactions he witnessed related to the Russian nuclear industry's efforts to win favor with Bill and Hillary Clinton and influence Obama administration decisions, his lawyer tells The Hill.

“All of the information about this corruption has not come out,” she said in an interview Tuesday. “And so my client, the same part of my client that made him go into the FBI in the first place, says, 'This is wrong. What should I do about it?'” http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355937-fbi-informant-blocked-from-telling-congress-about-russia-nuclear

Clocker
10-18-2017, 12:15 PM
More blithering incompetence from our government. :rolleyes:

Rosenstein and Mueller, along with Hillary and Eric Holder, were all on the CFIUS committee that approved the sale of 20% of US uranium reserves to Russia despite knowing Russia had bribed the Clintons for the illicit sale.

And worse:

On Wednesday Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) asked Attorney General Sessions if Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will be allowed to investigate himself regarding new information on the Hillary Clinton Uranium One scandal.

Attorney General Sessions said it was up to him (Rosenstein).
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/ag-sessions-folds-says-rosenstein-can-investigate-uranium-one-criminal-investigation-video/

boxcar
10-18-2017, 03:20 PM
No, no, Mueller must immediately drop the investigation himself, saying he could not find enough on Trump to indict, or go after the Clintons as a special counsel investigator, OR BOTH.....All the heat goes on Mueller to indict the Clintons and lowlife Comey.

One of two things would happen with Mueller: He would either resign first, or if not wind up in a morgue.

davew
10-18-2017, 06:48 PM
Sessions says some people already went to jail on this issue - what to visit?

Explosive new Russia Collusion & Bribery Evidence Covered Up by FBI/DOJ Related to Uranium One

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvRkZJAMwyY

mostpost
10-18-2017, 09:30 PM
Never in my life have I encountered such a concentration of ignorant and ill informed people such as I have here.

Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.

Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy

In addition there are five governmental bodies who act as observers and participate as appropriate.

It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.

It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium.

From the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.


Now to today's nonsense as posted by Clocker.
Update
On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval*— information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

That last paragraph is from our friends at Snopes (citation to follow.)
The Hill story claims that multiple US agencies were investigating Vladim Mikerin for corruption. But it never says which agencies they were. It claims the investigations began before 2010 and continued until 2014. But it never says what happened after that. Apparently there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

If there was sufficient evidence, then why doesn't the Trump administration pursue this?

Why was this information being gathered by these anonymous agencies not shared with the officials making the recommendations in the Uranium One matter? Because it should not have been. These were unfounded allegations. Regardless of whether they might turn out to be true, they were not proven at the time.

There is also the matter that going public with an investigation could compromise that investigation. I know that I hear law enforcement agencies say all the time that they will not comment on an ongoing investigation.

So we have documents that the Hill claims to have but has not produced. We have statements by persons that the Hill will not identify. We have nothing.

AS promised

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

JustRalph
10-18-2017, 09:38 PM
I can almost hear the tap dancing

jocko699
10-18-2017, 09:50 PM
I can almost hear the tap dancing

Give it some time and it may be the rockettes.

davew
10-18-2017, 10:45 PM
Never in my life have I encountered such a concentration of ignorant and ill informed people such as I have here.

Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.

Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy

In addition there are five governmental bodies who act as observers and participate as appropriate.

It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.

It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium.

From the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.


Now to today's nonsense as posted by Clocker.
Update
On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval*— information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

That last paragraph is from our friends at Snopes (citation to follow.)
The Hill story claims that multiple US agencies were investigating Vladim Mikerin for corruption. But it never says which agencies they were. It claims the investigations began before 2010 and continued until 2014. But it never says what happened after that. Apparently there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

If there was sufficient evidence, then why doesn't the Trump administration pursue this?

Why was this information being gathered by these anonymous agencies not shared with the officials making the recommendations in the Uranium One matter? Because it should not have been. These were unfounded allegations. Regardless of whether they might turn out to be true, they were not proven at the time.

There is also the matter that going public with an investigation could compromise that investigation. I know that I hear law enforcement agencies say all the time that they will not comment on an ongoing investigation.

So we have documents that the Hill claims to have but has not produced. We have statements by persons that the Hill will not identify. We have nothing.

AS promised

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

thank goodness we have mostpost and snopes - otherwise we would all think there was bribery, corruption, kickbacks and collusion between the Russians and the democrats.

Clocker
10-18-2017, 11:25 PM
TL;DR

A quick glance shows no proof that the story was wrong, a quick hand wave without facts dismissing the Clinton payola, and arguments from Snopes that in the first two long articles from The Hill, published yesterday and today, the authors did not share their sources.

Yawn. What journalists share their sources in an obvious long term on-going story?

PS Foxfire says the Snopes link is bad and won't connect to it.

JustRalph
10-18-2017, 11:31 PM
http://nypost.com/2017/10/17/team-obamas-stunning-coverup-of-russian-crimes/

Not much different but with outside links

Clocker
10-18-2017, 11:41 PM
http://nypost.com/2017/10/17/team-obamas-stunning-coverup-of-russian-crimes/

Not much different but with outside links

If Most-Snopes rejects The Hill, which tends toward the middle of the road, without proof, he certainly is going to have a cow about the NY Post.

Snopes is a lot more partisan than The Hill.

lefty359
10-19-2017, 12:36 AM
People around the Clinton's go to jail a lot, but they never do.

woodtoo
10-19-2017, 08:58 AM
People around the Clinton's go to jail a lot, but they never do.

People around the Clinton's die a lot.

classhandicapper
10-19-2017, 10:52 AM
thank goodness we have mostpost and snopes - otherwise we would all think there was bribery, corruption, kickbacks and collusion between the Russians and the democrats.

Snopes does more to discredit itself every day than any critic could possibly do by attacking it.

Gee, I wonder why all those contributions to the Clinton Foundation dried up once she lost?

Snopes would say there is no proof of a correlation between the 2 things. lmao

woodtoo
10-19-2017, 11:59 AM
Crooked Hillary out of USA with broken foot just when the "big ugly" is coming down the pike. Where are ye Hillary? Dubai. Russia.

Clocker
10-19-2017, 12:06 PM
Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.


Do you really think that Obama would investigate this on his own and decide against the recommendation of pretty much all of his cabinet?


Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy

Actually, that web site says that the members are the heads of those agencies.

It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.In the first quote above, you said that Hillary sat on the committee, now you say she wasn't involved. Do you seriously expect us to believe that Hillary would delegate her authority to a subordinate without instruction, direction, or supervision? The woman is a micro-manager.



It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium. What difference does it make how much they control? This is like Harvey Weinstein saying that he didn't molest nearly as many women as he is accused of. The point is that the deal required government approval, that Hillary had a role in that approval, that there was a lot of shady money passed around, and that the foxes were guarding the hen house. And it was a whole gang of foxes, by the way, including Holder, Mueller, and Rosenstein.

And as we know from at least as far back as Watergate, the cover-up is usually a bigger deal than the deed.

Clocker
10-19-2017, 12:11 PM
Crooked Hillary out of USA with broken foot just when the "big ugly" is coming down the pike. Where are ye Hillary? Dubai. Russia.

Betty Ford Rehab Clinic?

She broke her toe when she tripped running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee! That's her story and she's sticking to it. :pound:

woodtoo
10-19-2017, 01:11 PM
Betty Ford Rehab Clinic?

She broke her toe when she tripped running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee! That's her story and she's sticking to it. :pound:

Or shuffling up the stairs in slippers with an empty cup of covfefe.:)

elysiantraveller
10-19-2017, 01:19 PM
What is the gist of this story?

I have ignored it as I don't really care.

Are people upset that we sold uranium to the Russians? How is this a Nuclear Scandal?

Clocker
10-19-2017, 01:44 PM
What is the gist of this story?

I have ignored it as I don't really care.

Are people upset that we sold uranium to the Russians? How is this a Nuclear Scandal?

A deal with a Russian company involving uranium from this country required approval of our government. Lots of Russian money changed hands at the time, including donations to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 fee for Bill Clinton to give a speech in Russia. Pure coincidence, of course.

Those involved with the approval included Hillary, Holder, Mueller, and Rosenstein. The latter two are now involved in investigating alleged Russian influences on Trump's election.

Recently revealed info shows that all of the above were aware, before the approval, of an FBI investigation showing Russian bribery and kickbacks in this country, but the deal was approved and the investigation was quietly dropped.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

woodtoo
10-19-2017, 01:53 PM
Imperator Rex has a good story to tell. Thread Reader is happy to present an unrolled Twitter story with 95 tweets #MAGA

1. Here's a tale of how America was almost killed by criminals

elysiantraveller
10-19-2017, 02:34 PM
A deal with a Russian company involving uranium from this country required approval of our government. Lots of Russian money changed hands at the time, including donations to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 fee for Bill Clinton to give a speech in Russia. Pure coincidence, of course.

Those involved with the approval included Hillary, Holder, Mueller, and Rosenstein. The latter two are now involved in investigating alleged Russian influences on Trump's election.

Recently revealed info shows that all of the above were aware, before the approval, of an FBI investigation showing Russian bribery and kickbacks in this country, but the deal was approved and the investigation was quietly dropped.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

Okay... so its politicians getting kickbacks? That's the scandal?

If the item were toaster ovens would this be a story?

woodtoo
10-19-2017, 02:57 PM
That's your take on the Hill story or just Clockers post?

davew
10-19-2017, 04:25 PM
Okay... so its politicians getting kickbacks? That's the scandal?

If the item were toaster ovens would this be a story?

$150 million to Clinton Foundation
FBI head at time Mueller knew of bribery and kickbacks and let it slide along with his 2nd Comey

Mueller now investigating Russian connections that include himself....

Clocker
10-19-2017, 04:49 PM
Okay... so its politicians getting kickbacks? That's the scandal?

If the item were toaster ovens would this be a story?

Toaster ovens are boring. Cheap, sleazy political drama is entertaining. :popcorn:

elysiantraveller
10-19-2017, 08:06 PM
Toaster ovens are boring. Cheap, sleazy political drama is entertaining. :popcorn:

But if Meuller doesn't profit from any kickbacks. Did his due diligence at the time and approved the deal... how is this a story if the word uranium isn't used?

Clocker
10-19-2017, 10:21 PM
But if Meuller doesn't profit from any kickbacks. Did his due diligence at the time and approved the deal... how is this a story if the word uranium isn't used?

Mueller was doing it for politics, not kickbacks. He was head of the FBI at the time. The FBI had an informer working inside the dealings, giving them the details of Russian scams. The FBI and DOJ kept it out of the media. Obama's DOJ threatened the informer with prison time if he ever went public with it.

fast4522
10-19-2017, 10:49 PM
Mueller was doing it for politics, not kickbacks. He was head of the FBI at the time. The FBI had an informer working inside the dealings, giving them the details of Russian scams. The FBI and DOJ kept it out of the media. Obama's DOJ threatened the informer with prison time if he ever went public with it.

Give the guy anything he wants and lock up the Clinton's for twenty years.

davew
10-19-2017, 11:05 PM
But if Meuller doesn't profit from any kickbacks. Did his due diligence at the time and approved the deal... how is this a story if the word uranium isn't used?

Mueller was the bagman who went to Russia with a uranium sample for the Clintons. If the entire story comes out and acted on, many democrats will go down. Mueller benefitted in some way, and it wasn't radiation poisoning.

JustRalph
10-19-2017, 11:16 PM
Mueller was the bagman who went to Russia with a uranium sample for the Clintons. If the entire story comes out and acted on, many democrats will go down. Mueller benefitted in some way, and it wasn't radiation poisoning.

The DOJ doesn’t have the balls

elysiantraveller
10-19-2017, 11:36 PM
Mueller was doing it for politics, not kickbacks. He was head of the FBI at the time. The FBI had an informer working inside the dealings, giving them the details of Russian scams. The FBI and DOJ kept it out of the media. Obama's DOJ threatened the informer with prison time if he ever went public with it.

Ahh... so the head of the FBI was in it for political gain and the Clinton's and others got kickbacks.

None of this though sounds particularly out of the norm for politicians.

The investigation was shut down AND the DOJ threatened the informant with prison time if he went public or one of the two or both but unrelated? The last two are likely and even imaginable the first one sounds more sinister but...

Again replace uranium with shopping carts though and no one would care.

The crux of this whole thing is we had a large stockpile we needed to get rid of. With New START in effect neither nation has any use for it.

elysiantraveller
10-19-2017, 11:48 PM
Nevermind this is about that stupid mining company.

Who cares... the Russians were being Russians, the Clinton's apparently being Clinton's, and this probe conducting a investigation on backdoor channels said Russians were using to be Russians.

Replace Uranium with Pyrite and...

... No one would care.

The sheer amount of the stuff we both already have is enough fulfill any strategic need we may have. Last i checked we're still decommissioning the stuff under New START.

It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

fast4522
10-20-2017, 01:20 AM
The Uranium might be only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but making democrats radioactive for years is priceless. What the 80's taught some of us is understand exactly what you have before you do business, and get the most out of it. I know, before your time.:lol:

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 06:18 AM
The Uranium might be only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but making democrats radioactive for years is priceless. What the 80's taught some of us is understand exactly what you have before you do business, and get the most out of it. I know, before your time.:lol:

I'm not as polarized as a lot on here. Point I was making is uranium sounds scary hence why this is really a story.

Facts are facts though and the Russians sold us 500 metric tons of the enriched stuff, weapons grade, from '93-'13 after they de-enriched it as requested so we could use it for our reactors.

They are still (though they may already be done) deactivitating stockpiles of the stuff as we still are. Uranium is really only good for three things; Highly enriched for weapons, lower grade for reactors though you can make glass out of it, depleted for bullets.

Other than that it's a story of the Clinton's being sleazy which we all know and what cost them the election. Russians being sneaky, which we all knew unless you are now a Trump supporter ;). Finally, the FBI was investigating Russian sneakiness and then told to stop I would presume because this sale may habe ended the need for investigation.

chadk66
10-20-2017, 09:31 AM
reading all this, I've come to the conclusion there is nothing the Clintons could ever do to get their minions to turn against them. I don't think I've ever witnessed anything quite like this aside from probably islamic extremists believing there are virgins for them lol. Remember when Trump gave the "I could shoot somebody on fifth avenue" speech? Well this is a living example of the kind of cult following the Clintons have :lol:

reckless
10-20-2017, 10:18 AM
I'm not as polarized as a lot on here. Point I was making is uranium sounds scary hence why this is really a story.

Facts are facts though and the Russians sold us 500 metric tons of the enriched stuff, weapons grade, from '93-'13 after they de-enriched it as requested so we could use it for our reactors.

They are still (though they may already be done) deactivitating stockpiles of the stuff as we still are. Uranium is really only good for three things; Highly enriched for weapons, lower grade for reactors though you can make glass out of it, depleted for bullets.

Other than that it's a story of the Clinton's being sleazy which we all know and what cost them the election. Russians being sneaky, which we all knew unless you are now a Trump supporter ;). Finally, the FBI was investigating Russian sneakiness and then told to stop I would presume because this sale may habe ended the need for investigation.

It seems to me that during the times when this deal went down, during the treasonous years of Obama and Clinton, Putin's 'Russia' was not the enemy of the USA, obviously. Putin and 'Russia' were our allies then, according to Obama, Hillary!, serial rapist Bill Clinton, and other crumb bums such as Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, plus a few more Democrat villains.

It is only after the historic 2016 election of Donald Trump that 'Russia' became the bad guy. :lol: I see.

The people that hate the USA and Trump yet ignore the Obama, Hillary, Mueller, CNN, MSNBC role in this crime against America are truly stupid and simple minded.

God bless America and God save America.

OntheRail
10-20-2017, 10:19 AM
Nevermind this is about that stupid mining company.

Who cares... the Russians were being Russians, the Clinton's apparently being Clinton's, and this probe conducting a investigation on backdoor channels said Russians were using to be Russians.

Replace Uranium with Pyrite and...

... No one would care.

The sheer amount of the stuff we both already have is enough fulfill any strategic need we may have. Last i checked we're still decommissioning the stuff under New START.

It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Yep Corruption and Clinton synonyms... Clinton's and Russians just being what they are... non story.

But replace Clinton with Trump with in a mile of Russian Dressing... and the very same blinded eyed Libs scream Red Menace... Collusion... Interference :rolleyes:.

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 02:31 PM
reading all this, I've come to the conclusion there is nothing the Clintons could ever do to get their minions to turn against them. I don't think I've ever witnessed anything quite like this aside from probably islamic extremists believing there are virgins for them lol. Remember when Trump gave the "I could shoot somebody on fifth avenue" speech? Well this is a living example of the kind of cult following the Clintons have :lol:

I hate the Clinton's. I just think this is seedy and not beyond the norm of most politicians. It's not however this plan to get us all killed by uranium.

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 02:35 PM
It seems to me that during the times when this deal went down, during the treasonous years of Obama and Clinton, Putin's 'Russia' was not the enemy of the USA, obviously. Putin and 'Russia' were our allies then, according to Obama, Hillary!, serial rapist Bill Clinton, and other crumb bums such as Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, plus a few more Democrat villains.

It is only after the historic 2016 election of Donald Trump that 'Russia' became the bad guy. :lol: I see.

The people that hate the USA and Trump yet ignore the Obama, Hillary, Mueller, CNN, MSNBC role in this crime against America are truly stupid and simple minded.

God bless America and God save America.

You should open up Google sometime. Russia WAS NOT our friend during their years. Obama and Hillary despise Putin. The whole Russia meddling in our election talk all sprouted from the sanctions Obama and Clinton put on them. That's why certain Republicans like myself were shocked when Donald Trump suggested we be friendly towards them.

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 02:44 PM
Yep Corruption and Clinton synonyms... Clinton's and Russians just being what they are... non story.

I mean... yeah...

Its another oh hey look they got money for political favor. I've seen a million of these. They're shitty people. I get that. That's why they lost. I voted Harambe.

But replace Clinton with Trump with in a mile of Russian Dressing... and the very same blinded eyed Libs scream Red Menace... Collusion... Interference :rolleyes:.

I don't personally think the two are equivocal at all. Shady business deals happen all the time. Its all but certain at this point Russia was meddling in our election with social media ad buys and the what not. It also looks really bad when your political team is meeting with people from a foreign power to gain the upper hand in a election.

Illegal? No probably not.

Make Trump look really bad? Yes.

Should it? Yes.

Flip the script and if Hillary had met all these people trying to get dirt on Trump? You all would be flipping a lid.

mostpost
10-20-2017, 03:31 PM
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
We all know what that is. It is the logical fallacy that because something happens after something, it is the result of that something.

Bill Clinton received $500,000 for some speeches in Russia. Because of that Hillary Clinton Ok'd the sale of a Uranium company to a Russian company.

This ignores the fact that Clinton was only one of nine members of the commission. Did the Russians bribe all nine?

The Clinton Foundation received $145M from someone involved with Uranium one. Not true. The Clinton Foundation received $145M from someone who had been involved with Uranium One at some time in the past. Gurriria (sp?) had divested himself of all of his holdings in Uranium One years before he made the Contributions to the Clinton Foundation.

I know it is difficult for some of you to conceive of someone doing something just because it is right-and not because it makes you a profit-but sometimes that does happen.

mostpost
10-20-2017, 03:34 PM
$150 million to Clinton Foundation
FBI head at time Mueller knew of bribery and kickbacks and let it slide along with his 2nd Comey

Mueller now investigating Russian connections that include himself....
You know what this is actually about? It's not about the Clintons. It is a ham handed attempt to defame Robert Mueller. Apparently he is getting too close to the truth.

mostpost
10-20-2017, 03:39 PM
You should open up Google sometime. Russia WAS NOT our friend during their years. Obama and Hillary despise Putin. The whole Russia meddling in our election talk all sprouted from the sanctions Obama and Clinton put on them. That's why certain Republicans like myself were shocked when Donald Trump suggested we be friendly towards them.
Are you suggesting that reckless should learn something? If ignorance is truly bliss; he is a very happy man.

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 03:39 PM
The Clinton Foundation received $145M from someone involved with Uranium one. Not true. The Clinton Foundation received $145M from someone who had been involved with Uranium One at some time in the past. Gurriria (sp?) had divested himself of all of his holdings in Uranium One years before he made the Contributions to the Clinton Foundation.

I know it is difficult for some of you to conceive of someone doing something just because it is right-and not because it makes you a profit-but sometimes that does happen.

I just choked on my grilled cheese.

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 03:43 PM
Are you suggesting that reckless should learn something? If ignorance is truly bliss; he is a very happy man.

Yeah he is waaay off on that one.

Americans don't like Soviets or ex-soviets for that matter. Unless they're Trump.

elysiantraveller
10-20-2017, 04:45 PM
Yeah he is waaay off on that one.

Americans don't like Soviets or ex-soviets for that matter. Unless they're Trump.

Or Bernie who honeymoons there.

reckless
10-21-2017, 06:50 AM
Are you suggesting that reckless should learn something? If ignorance is truly bliss; he is a very happy man.

I wouldn't try and open this can of worms about any ignorant posters.

reckless
10-21-2017, 07:11 AM
You should open up Google sometime. Russia WAS NOT our friend during their years. Obama and Hillary despise Putin. The whole Russia meddling in our election talk all sprouted from the sanctions Obama and Clinton put on them. That's why certain Republicans like myself were shocked when Donald Trump suggested we be friendly towards them.

You say Obama and Hillary despise Putin yet that didn't stop them from selling 20% of our uranium supply to Putin's Russia, now did it?

Again, are you suggesting the Uranium One deal with Putin's Russia made by Obama, Clinton and other traitors in various US 'security' agencies was made because Russia WAS NOT our friend??

My God.

reckless
10-21-2017, 07:20 AM
Yeah he is waaay off on that one.

Americans don't like Soviets or ex-soviets for that matter. Unless they're Trump.

The Clintons, Obama, some in the CIA, Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein of the FBI, Eric Holder, and way too many others to name absolutely commit treason by selling 20% of our uranium to a life-long enemy with the nuclear bomb but without the uranium ore to use it, yet that's OK to members in the alt-stupid wing of Pace Advantage??

Yeah, yeah yeah, Trump's the villain here. Some of this idiocy is actually getting quite boring as well.

elysiantraveller
10-21-2017, 11:52 AM
The Clintons, Obama, some in the CIA, Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein of the FBI, Eric Holder, and way too many others to name absolutely commit treason by selling 20% of our uranium to a life-long enemy with the nuclear bomb but without the uranium ore to use it, yet that's OK to members in the alt-stupid wing of Pace Advantage??

Yeah, yeah yeah, Trump's the villain here. Some of this idiocy is actually getting quite boring as well.

What's idiotic is you're using the word "uranium" to make it seem like your post has anymore weight. It doesn't, it isnt in short supply to fulfill any strategic need. I've explained that. Completely ignoring factual points like Russia has sold us over 500 metric tons of the stuff from 93-13. The fact both nation's are disarming. The fact we have a stockpile of HEU just simply sitting around. Check the Half-Life of Uranium then get back to me.

Otherwise take you silly, sensational, and emotional points, if you can call them that, and go elsewhere. Read a book or two on the arms race. Familiarize yourself with strategic doctrine. Have the vaguest sense you know what you're talking about on the matter then get back to me.

I know I do.

*Furthermore maybe just consider it a gift for all the Strategic agreements the United States. We are the largest violator, the NPT, the ABM both immediately come to mind. You would be wrong thinking that's why we did this but it works in your warped logic.

Greyfox
10-21-2017, 11:59 AM
You know what this is actually about? It's not about the Clintons. It is a ham handed attempt to defame Robert Mueller. Apparently he is getting too close to the truth.

"I know Alex...What is Payola?"

davew
10-22-2017, 09:11 AM
You know what this is actually about? It's not about the Clintons. It is a ham handed attempt to defame Robert Mueller. Apparently he is getting too close to the truth.

right, the $150 million was for selling military technology to the Russians. Similar to Bill selling missile targeting technology to the Chinese 20 years ago.

Podesta and his brother involved with a bank scandal in Russia and the people breaking the news about the Panama bank secret accounts are now all dead :(

Tom
10-22-2017, 09:26 AM
Apparently he is getting too close to the truth.

Much like Hillary walking in Bill and Monica.
Getting close, you bet.......and all that is there is RUSSIANS and democrats.

chadk66
10-22-2017, 09:46 AM
it's extremely entertaining watching the resident liberals try to explain away the clinton/russia saga. what's even more entertaining is watching all this dogma on Mueller while knowing not one thing will ever come out of his so called investigation :pound:yet the libs are clinging on to any possible dirt they pray Mueller finds on trump :)

woodtoo
10-22-2017, 12:19 PM
Hillary's State Department approved 215 foreign speeches by hubby Bill totaling $48 million. Pay to play.

reckless
10-22-2017, 12:45 PM
What's idiotic is you're using the word "uranium" to make it seem like your post has anymore weight. It doesn't, it isnt in short supply to fulfill any strategic need. I've explained that. Completely ignoring factual points like Russia has sold us over 500 metric tons of the stuff from 93-13. The fact both nation's are disarming. The fact we have a stockpile of HEU just simply sitting around. Check the Half-Life of Uranium then get back to me.

Otherwise take you silly, sensational, and emotional points, if you can call them that, and go elsewhere. Read a book or two on the arms race. Familiarize yourself with strategic doctrine. Have the vaguest sense you know what you're talking about on the matter then get back to me.

I know I do.

*Furthermore maybe just consider it a gift for all the Strategic agreements the United States. We are the largest violator, the NPT, the ABM both immediately come to mind. You would be wrong thinking that's why we did this but it works in your warped logic.

OK, OK, you want to impress your fans on here by telling us about all the books you read and that you suggest I read a book or two as well.

Yet you also say that I should 'try Google' -- :lol::lol::lol:. Do you have any idea how stupid this sounds? No, I guess not.

So, so, so what... that you read a lot of books on the arms race. Big effing deal but I must say you're probably reading many wrong kinds of book because you sound like a neophite on all these matters, either financial or political.

You should read books on contrarian thinking, on developing common sense, on learning to be a critical thinker, and not be someone who tries to impress others simply for sport. You should read stuff so that eventually your opinions are proven right.

There's some hilarious examples of all this vast knowledge of yours --that you've must have accumulated reading all those books you read and because you seem to assume that I don't read books. I know one thing for sure: I don't 'try Google' as often as you do; I bet you're correct on that!

You often said that Trump will never get companies to stop leaving the USA for foreign soil. All you anti-Trump GOP people said that repeatedly actually. Wrong!

You often said that Trump will never get companies to re-locate back to the USA and/or have foreign based companies build plants here and bring jobs back to the USA. (I won't mention all of these companies but I'll mention Foxconn (Apple) and Amazon --- hmmm, isn't both Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos in your anti-Trump camp too?? They are but Trump and his economic plan convinced them otherwise.) But most importantly, you are again wrong!

And remember when all this was happening right before your very eyes, what did you say? You said Trump had nothing to do with this, that these companies were already planning all these things. :lol::lol::lol: Wrong! But it was funny stuff, especially coming from an arrogant know-it-all... one who is hardly ever right, btw.

Just one more and I'll save you from further embarrassment. I'll save the best (really the worst) for last:

You said that all the rapes, the sexual abuse, the vulgarity, and overall the general sexual misconduct towards women committed by Bill Clinton all that didn't matter because Clinton isn't the president right now and all that happened years ago.

So keep trying to insult me and possibly others by suggesting I don't know what I speak about and that I should 'try Google' or read more books. You have absolutely no idea on my reading habits, I assure you. But we all do know how your reading habits have formed your thinking on this site, that's for sure.

davew
10-22-2017, 02:33 PM
it's extremely entertaining watching the resident liberals try to explain away the clinton/russia saga. what's even more entertaining is watching all this dogma on Mueller while knowing not one thing will ever come out of his so called investigation :pound:yet the libs are clinging on to any possible dirt they pray Mueller finds on trump :)

Meuller will find something, even if he has to plant the evidence or entrap a witness into saying a 'lie'.

elysiantraveller
10-22-2017, 02:36 PM
...

Wow that is the largest personal attack/deflection I've ever gotten! Thanks! :headbanger:

At least now I know you have nothing but, "Uranium! My God!"

elysiantraveller
10-22-2017, 02:44 PM
it's extremely entertaining watching the resident liberals try to explain away the clinton/russia saga. what's even more entertaining is watching all this dogma on Mueller while knowing not one thing will ever come out of his so called investigation :pound:yet the libs are clinging on to any possible dirt they pray Mueller finds on trump :)

I don't know why anyone finds this all that interesting. Canadian Mining Company goes up for sale with US holdings. Russian company wants to buy it. It gets approved. Clinton Foundation receives a donation.

Seems pretty normal for them. They are scummy. The fact that they mine Uranium, however, should mean absolutely nothing. It does mean nothing. Could be aluminum or iron or whatever and this absolutely isn't a story because, to quote reckless, "My God! Uranium!"

As far as Mueller this seems more like an attempt by the right to discredit him. Who knows what his investigation will find. I'm sure its found plenty of interesting stuff. Whether or not it has anything to do with the current Administration is anyone's guess but...

We are on the wait and see on that one.

Clocker
10-22-2017, 03:39 PM
I don't know why anyone finds this all that interesting. Canadian Mining Company goes up for sale with US holdings. Russian company wants to buy it. It gets approved. Clinton Foundation receives a donation.

Seems pretty normal for them. They are scummy. The fact that they mine Uranium, however, should mean absolutely nothing. It does mean nothing. Could be aluminum or iron or whatever and this absolutely isn't a story because, to quote reckless, "My God! Uranium!"

The primary issue is not the uranium itself. The issue is that uranium is regulated, and US law requires government approval of the deal.

And getting government approval means "lobbying" (ala Monty Python: wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?). Lots of money sloshing around, lots of grubby little hands reaching in the pot.

And the Clintons are certainly intelligent enough and experienced enough to know that in their positions they should avoid even an appearance of involvement with a foreign company seeking government approval regarding a regulated commodity. But as usual, they think that they are above all that.

woodtoo
10-22-2017, 03:39 PM
As far as Mueller this seems more like an attempt by the right to discredit him. Who knows what his investigation will find. I'm sure its found plenty of interesting stuff. Whether or not it has anything to do with the current Administration is anyone's guess but...

We are on the wait and see on that one.
Whats to discredit? This is a ten year investigation and it's only year 1.

I hope they find something before his 2nd term is up. :lol:

elysiantraveller
10-22-2017, 03:51 PM
The primary issue is not the uranium itself. The issue is that uranium is regulated, and US law requires government approval of the deal.

And getting government approval means "lobbying" (ala Monty Python: wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?). Lots of money sloshing around, lots of grubby little hands reaching in the pot.

And the Clintons are certainly intelligent enough and experienced enough to know that in their positions they should avoid even an appearance of involvement with a foreign company seeking government approval regarding a regulated commodity. But as usual, they think that they are above all that.

A cursory glance at the timeline. Bill Clinton was heavily involved in securing mining rights in Kazahkstan in the mid 2000s. To quote Phil Collins they simply may have already been in too deep.

davew
10-24-2017, 10:24 PM
I hope the FBI undercover informant gets to testify to Congress before he gets killed by the Clinton death squad.

reckless
10-24-2017, 11:45 PM
Wow that is the largest personal attack/deflection I've ever gotten! Thanks! :headbanger:

At least now I know you have nothing but, "Uranium! My God!"


No, not a single personal attack, just reminding you of all the silly posts you made ... usually in response to a post of mine. Didja forget? Didja think that I would forget all these things you said?

Here's a recent column from Breitbart about Uranium One... just call it primer.

Deny this scandal all you'd like. You're just risking another blow to whatever little credibility you have on here.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/7-uranium-one-facts-every-american-should-know/


PS--Since you don't believe the facts pertaining to Uranium One and Clinton's pay-for-play scheme ... plus the acts of treason committed by Obama, Hillary, serial sex abuser Bill, Jim Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein and a host of others please let us know how much money Putin's Russia has 'donated' to The Clinton Foundation since after the Election of 2016. Thanks.

I bet all those 100s of thousands given to the Foundation while Hillary was secretary of state was simply for humanitarian purposes, such as child obesity in Guam and no other reason. :lol:

fast4522
10-25-2017, 07:24 AM
No, not a single personal attack, just reminding you of all the silly posts you made ... usually in response to a post of mine. Didja forget? Didja think that I would forget all these things you said?

Here's a recent column from Breitbart about Uranium One... just call it primer.

Deny this scandal all you'd like. You're just risking another blow to whatever little credibility you have on here.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/7-uranium-one-facts-every-american-should-know/


PS--Since you don't believe the facts pertaining to Uranium One and Clinton's pay-for-play scheme ... plus the acts of treason committed by Obama, Hillary, serial sex abuser Bill, Jim Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein and a host of others please let us know how much money Putin's Russia has 'donated' to The Clinton Foundation since after the Election of 2016. Thanks.

I bet all those 100s of thousands given to the Foundation while Hillary was secretary of state was simply for humanitarian purposes, such as child obesity in Guam and no other reason. :lol:

Here at Pace Advantage elysiantraveller is counting on the sympathies of RINO's but he can't admit 2017 is not the year of the RINO. With Ted Cruz and Donald J. Trump winning over 80 % of the republican vote only a idiot would think there is room for RINO thought.

tucker6
10-25-2017, 08:24 AM
I hope the FBI undercover informant gets to testify to Congress before he gets killed by the Clinton death squad.
I had the same exact thought last evening. What are the odds this guy survives to sit in front of the American people? For that matter, why wouldn't anyone support the outing of the truth.

woodtoo
10-25-2017, 10:20 AM
I had the same exact thought last evening. What are the odds this guy survives to sit in front of the American people? For that matter, why wouldn't anyone support the outing of the truth.

The truth will bring down Crooked Hillary's House of Cards.:headbanger:

elysiantraveller
10-25-2017, 12:11 PM
No, not a single personal attack, just reminding you of all the silly posts you made ... usually in response to a post of mine. Didja forget? Didja think that I would forget all these things you said?

Here's a recent column from Breitbart about Uranium One... just call it primer.

Deny this scandal all you'd like. You're just risking another blow to whatever little credibility you have on here.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/7-uranium-one-facts-every-american-should-know/


PS--Since you don't believe the facts pertaining to Uranium One and Clinton's pay-for-play scheme ... plus the acts of treason committed by Obama, Hillary, serial sex abuser Bill, Jim Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein and a host of others please let us know how much money Putin's Russia has 'donated' to The Clinton Foundation since after the Election of 2016. Thanks.

I bet all those 100s of thousands given to the Foundation while Hillary was secretary of state was simply for humanitarian purposes, such as child obesity in Guam and no other reason. :lol:

How did they commit treason? If that's your benchmark we may have an issue with the Trump Candidacy.

Please point out where I've defended the Clinton's or posted anything factually incorrect on the matter. They got a kickback for a vote on a corporate acquisition. Its slimy and crooked.

Beyond that I fail to see the larger scandal here. These are the reasons the Clinton's aren't in the White House right now.

On here though and many other alt-right outlets the obsession still with good ole pant-suit is borderline creepy. I honestly think a lot of you have something for the Hag.

Marshall Bennett
10-25-2017, 12:31 PM
The Clinton machine is breaking down. Hillary will one day die a worn down shell of what she once was, and in total disgrace. Lies, dishonesty, and deceit seldom make for a happy ending, especially with power and money.
She's going down, and liberal supporters will stick with her to the bitter end. No doubt they'll have long since shifted the blame elsewhere. That's what they do, their mode of operation.

elysiantraveller
10-25-2017, 03:14 PM
The Clinton machine is breaking down. Hillary will one day die a worn down shell of what she once was, and in total disgrace. Lies, dishonesty, and deceit seldom make for a happy ending, especially with power and money.
She's going down, and liberal supporters will stick with her to the bitter end. No doubt they'll have long since shifted the blame elsewhere. That's what they do, their mode of operation.

It broke down.

November 2016.

I don't know why people on here still give any shits about them.

woodtoo
10-25-2017, 05:20 PM
We're waiting for the pressure cooker to blow and want a ring side seat for the fire works....that enough of a reason, to watch the big ugly.:popcorn:

davew
10-25-2017, 06:15 PM
The Clinton machine is breaking down. Hillary will one day die a worn down shell of what she once was, and in total disgrace. Lies, dishonesty, and deceit seldom make for a happy ending, especially with power and money.
She's going down, and liberal supporters will stick with her to the bitter end. No doubt they'll have long since shifted the blame elsewhere. That's what they do, their mode of operation.

all of the recent allegations against Hillary, Holder, Bill, Loretta, DNC, FusionGPS, 0bama, Rice, the Podesta group, the ex-british spy, the Podesta group, the secret bank accounts down south..... are all a big nothing burger and they have all been disproven in the past.

Mueller and Comey will again find there was no intent to break any laws by anyone relayed to the democrat party.

woodtoo
10-25-2017, 06:43 PM
Tomorrow is Hillary's birthday and Julian Assange promised a big birthday surprise!
What islands weeds can we find you at.

fast4522
10-25-2017, 07:16 PM
Tomorrow is Hillary's birthday and Julian Assange promised a big birthday surprise!
What islands weeds can we find you at.

Link



http://newstodayflash.com/latest/julian-assange-has-a-special-birthday-gift-for-hillary-on-26-october/

woodtoo
10-25-2017, 08:25 PM
Lou Dobbs announces FBI informants gag order lifted.:coffee:

Tom
10-25-2017, 10:10 PM
With the Trump Dossier now proven to be a fake - paid for by Hillary and the DNC, and knowingly used by CIA and FBI as basis for warrants and suck it if official - we ARE the RUSSIANS!
THe US government is 100% thoroughly corrupt.

After all this time, not one shred of evidence Trump had any RUSSIAN connections, but Hillary complicit at every turn.

And Mueller used the fake dossier for his DNC agenda....so HE needs to be indicted and shot as a traitor, also with Hillary.

Welcome to the USSA.

JustRalph
10-25-2017, 10:32 PM
I love the Assange line

#bleachbitdoesntwork

Fager Fan
10-25-2017, 10:32 PM
Never in my life have I encountered such a concentration of ignorant and ill informed people such as I have here.

Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.

Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy

In addition there are five governmental bodies who act as observers and participate as appropriate.

It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.

It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium.

From the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.


Now to today's nonsense as posted by Clocker.
Update
On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval*— information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

That last paragraph is from our friends at Snopes (citation to follow.)
The Hill story claims that multiple US agencies were investigating Vladim Mikerin for corruption. But it never says which agencies they were. It claims the investigations began before 2010 and continued until 2014. But it never says what happened after that. Apparently there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

If there was sufficient evidence, then why doesn't the Trump administration pursue this?

Why was this information being gathered by these anonymous agencies not shared with the officials making the recommendations in the Uranium One matter? Because it should not have been. These were unfounded allegations. Regardless of whether they might turn out to be true, they were not proven at the time.

There is also the matter that going public with an investigation could compromise that investigation. I know that I hear law enforcement agencies say all the time that they will not comment on an ongoing investigation.

So we have documents that the Hill claims to have but has not produced. We have statements by persons that the Hill will not identify. We have nothing.

AS promised

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Is there anything you won't defend? Maybe if we can finally nail the Clintons for murder?

And I love how you use Snopes as a source. Humorous.

Fager Fan
10-25-2017, 10:39 PM
It seems to me that during the times when this deal went down, during the treasonous years of Obama and Clinton, Putin's 'Russia' was not the enemy of the USA, obviously. Putin and 'Russia' were our allies then, according to Obama, Hillary!, serial rapist Bill Clinton, and other crumb bums such as Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, plus a few more Democrat villains.

It is only after the historic 2016 election of Donald Trump that 'Russia' became the bad guy. :lol: I see.

The people that hate the USA and Trump yet ignore the Obama, Hillary, Mueller, CNN, MSNBC role in this crime against America are truly stupid and simple minded.

God bless America and God save America.

Actually, it was before the election. Hilary was the first to drop the "Trump/Russia collusion" crap during one of the debates. She kept on and on and on with it, determined that it shall be a story.

She got her wish, and it's with glee that I'm watching it backfire. And we have a President who just might make sure that heads roll on this.

JustRalph
10-25-2017, 11:17 PM
FBI informant cleared to testify to Congress.

Like this tweet

https://twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/923340313841864704

FantasticDan
10-26-2017, 12:21 AM
With the Trump Dossier now proven to be a fake - paid for by Hillary and the DNC, and knowingly used by CIA and FBI as basis for warrants and suck it if official - we ARE the RUSSIANS!
THe US government is 100% thoroughly corrupt.

After all this time, not one shred of evidence Trump had any RUSSIAN connections, but Hillary complicit at every turn.

And Mueller used the fake dossier for his DNC agenda....so HE needs to be indicted and shot as a traitor, also with Hillary.

Welcome to the USSA.
So utterly clueless. And CRAZY. :blush:

Another rep point for Tommy! :lol:

https://twitter.com/thebeatwithari/status/923361978445418497

rastajenk
10-26-2017, 08:27 AM
It seems to me one of the important aspects of this is who paid for it. Campaign expenses are to be submitted in great detail, and this expense seems to be off the books.

Has there ever been anything honest, noble, non-predatory, and/or in good faith about the Hillary Clinton quest for the presidency? I can't think of anything.

dkithore
10-26-2017, 08:41 AM
:ThmbUp:It's time for Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and indict all of these traitors:

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman Schults, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, James Clapper, John Brennan for their treasonous roles in the Uranium One scandals, and any ancillary crimes, especially pertaining to both Clintons and their Foundation.

Sessions must also end this Trump-Russia collusion hoax tomorrow, fire Mueller, and name a trust worthy Special Presecutor to investigate The Clinton Foundation and their part in the Uranium One deal with Russia.

If he doesn't, then Sessions must resign himself or be fired.
:ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

dkithore
10-26-2017, 08:48 AM
:ThmbUp:With the Trump Dossier now proven to be a fake - paid for by Hillary and the DNC, and knowingly used by CIA and FBI as basis for warrants and suck it if official - we ARE the RUSSIANS!
THe US government is 100% thoroughly corrupt.

After all this time, not one shred of evidence Trump had any RUSSIAN connections, but Hillary complicit at every turn.

And Mueller used the fake dossier for his DNC agenda....so HE needs to be indicted and shot as a traitor, also with Hillary.

Welcome to the USSA.
:ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

Fager Fan
10-26-2017, 08:57 AM
The private server was the first big stink. But then it was followed by the FBI allowing Hilary to delete thousands of emails and attempt to wipe the server clean. Second big stink. But then came Comey's infamous press conference where he clearly lied and then said there should be no prosecution of Hilary. At that moment, I realized that Comey was corrupt, the FBI was corrupt, and the government was far more corrupt than I thought.

Liberals are every bit as smart as Repubs. They couldn't put thought and reason to the above and reach any other conclusion than the one I did. I don't know why they put the blinders on regarding the above. Is Trump the perfect candidate? No. But he was a far better option than those in the circle of government corruption. The US and an ethical government is far more important than either political party.

We'll get through sometimes eye-rolling tweets. I'm looking forward to the day I can vote for Trey Gowdy for President. I hope he doesn't prove me wrong regarding the kind of man I think he is.

Clocker
10-26-2017, 10:04 AM
It seems to me one of the important aspects of this is who paid for it. Campaign expenses are to be submitted in great detail, and this expense seems to be off the books.


Good point. A complaint just filed with the Federal Election Commission charges that Hillary's campaign violated federal law by falsifying the report of payment for this dossier.

According to the complaint, rather than pay Fusion GPS directly, the Hillary campaign paid the money to the Perkins Coie law firm, which then paid for the dossier. The payments to the law firm were reported to the FEC as "legal services".

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign violated campaign finance laws by failing to accurately disclose payments related to the so-called Trump Dossier, the non-partisan Campaign Legal Center said in a complaint filed today with the Federal Election Commission.

According to a recent reports in the media, Marc Elias, who also served as the Clinton campaign lawyer, paid opposition research firm Fusion GPS to produce the dossier which exposed alleged connections between Donald Trump and Russia government. It also contained salacious allegations about Trump’s personal escapades. According to reports, the Hillary for America campaign paid for the research but routed the payments through Elias’ law firm Perkins Coie and described the purpose of the money as “legal services” on their FEC disclosures. The DNC and the Clinton campaign reported dozens of payments totaling more that $12 million dollars to Perkins Coie over the course of the campaign.
https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/breaking-fec-complaint-says-clinton-campaign-dnc-violated-law-over-trump-dossier/

davew
10-26-2017, 10:29 AM
The private server was the first big stink. But then it was followed by the FBI allowing Hilary to delete thousands of emails and attempt to wipe the server clean. Second big stink. But then came Comey's infamous press conference where he clearly lied and then said there should be no prosecution of Hilary. At that moment, I realized that Comey was corrupt, the FBI was corrupt, and the government was far more corrupt than I thought.

Liberals are every bit as smart as Repubs. They couldn't put thought and reason to the above and reach any other conclusion than the one I did. I don't know why they put the blinders on regarding the above. Is Trump the perfect candidate? No. But he was a far better option than those in the circle of government corruption. The US and an ethical government is far more important than either political party.

We'll get through sometimes eye-rolling tweets. I'm looking forward to the day I can vote for Trey Gowdy for President. I hope he doesn't prove me wrong regarding the kind of man I think he is.

the 0bama administration turned the federal bureau of investigation into the democrat bureau of intimidation.

rastajenk
10-26-2017, 10:31 AM
And who paid for it would go a long way in determining its "truthiness", contra Dan's posting of a tweet on the previous page.

I love the smell of desperate spin in the morning......

woodtoo
10-26-2017, 12:25 PM
So utterly clueless. And CRAZY. :blush:

Another rep point for Tommy! :lol:

https://twitter.com/thebeatwithari/status/923361978445418497

So sad Iv'e lost that last smidgen of hope #fakenewsfandan

Fager Fan
10-26-2017, 01:56 PM
So utterly clueless. And CRAZY. :blush:

Another rep point for Tommy! :lol:

https://twitter.com/thebeatwithari/status/923361978445418497

Some people have such strange avs that sometimes I gotta ask.

Who is the sky-gazer with the 70s hair?

woodtoo
10-26-2017, 02:33 PM
Some people have such strange avs that sometimes I gotta ask.

Who is the sky-gazer with the 70s hair?

People need to know!

Thought it was one of the Bee Gees

FantasticDan
10-26-2017, 03:12 PM
People need to know!
Thought it was one of the Bee Gees
It's been discussed before, it's one of Chris Elliot's characters from Letterman's show in the '80s..

https://youtu.be/PdL-By3PCMI

chadk66
10-26-2017, 03:27 PM
I figured there was no way the Clintons were ever going to be prosecuted for anything. Well if this FBI informant has what he says he has it will probably be game over for a hell of a lot of people. Entertainment this good usually costs a fortune. :pound:

Track Collector
10-26-2017, 05:16 PM
According to the complaint, rather than pay Fusion GPS directly, the Hillary campaign paid the money to the Perkins Coie law firm, which then paid for the dossier. The payments to the law firm were reported to the FEC as "legal services".

I did not read thru all the posts or read all the links, so apologies if this was mentioned before.

By working with the law firm, could this also possibly provide some type of cover via Attorney/Client confidentially privilege in the event of an investigation?

woodtoo
10-26-2017, 05:26 PM
I did not read thru all the posts or read all the links, so apologies if this was mentioned before.

By working with the law firm, could this also possibly provide some type of cover via Attorney/Client confidentially privilege in the event of an investigation?
Of course another layer of lawyers.

davew
10-26-2017, 05:47 PM
Is there anything you won't defend? Maybe if we can finally nail the Clintons for murder?

And I love how you use Snopes as a source. Humorous.

if the Clintons get prosecuted for murder, than they will have been framed by some alt right nut job ....

jocko699
10-26-2017, 05:55 PM
if the Clintons get prosecuted for murder, than they will have been framed by some alt right nut job ....

Great bit of sarcasm!!!!:D

Thebart
10-26-2017, 06:33 PM
From a Snopes article on the uranium deal:

"Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx) cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Documents/CFIUSGuidance.pdf), the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html) Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters. Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.
A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement (https://web.archive.org/web/20170129043258/https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/news/2010/10-211.pdf) by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported."

woodtoo
10-26-2017, 07:04 PM
From a Snopes article on the uranium deal:

"Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx) cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Documents/CFIUSGuidance.pdf), the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html) Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters. Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.
A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement (https://web.archive.org/web/20170129043258/https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/news/2010/10-211.pdf) by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported."






What do you make of the fact the Clinton foundation received $1.5 million and Bill's $500,000 speaking fee. Yup, not related at all.

Show Me the Wire
10-26-2017, 07:21 PM
From a Snopes article on the uranium deal:

"Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx) cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Documents/CFIUSGuidance.pdf), the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html) Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters. Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.
A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement (https://web.archive.org/web/20170129043258/https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/news/2010/10-211.pdf) by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported."






Snopes is a joke. Uranium was shipped, out of the U.S., to Canada and then to Europe. See NYT article April 23, 2015 https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

elysiantraveller
10-26-2017, 07:24 PM
What do you make of the fact the Clinton foundation received $1.5 million and Bill's $500,000 speaking fee. Yup, not related at all.

There is a good possibility they are related. The problem is that wasn't the concern when this "scandal" first broke. The scandal was right wing media outlets and a uninformed President making false statements painting this as a national security issue that his supporters believed.

We call this a moving target or moving the goalposts.

Show Me the Wire
10-26-2017, 07:28 PM
There is a good possibility they are related. The problem is that wasn't the concern when this "scandal" first broke. The scandal was right wing media outlets and a uninformed President making false statements painting this as a national security issue that his supporters believed.

We call this a moving target our moving the goalposts.

Maybe it should have been of concern when it first broke.

elysiantraveller
10-26-2017, 07:37 PM
Maybe it should have been of concern when it first broke.

Probably but it doesn't really hold much weight at this point since she lost plus the message is pretty heavily muddled by the blatant lies who attempted to break this story as a national security issue. The Clinton's are pretty sleazey... If true why would anyone be surprised?

There is/was no doubt Hillary is more Hawkish than Trump when it comes to Russia. Unless we are completely in topsy-turvy world I feel most here would prefer her policy towards Russia than Trump's.

woodtoo
10-26-2017, 07:41 PM
Her policy is pay to play who likes that.

elysiantraveller
10-26-2017, 07:46 PM
Her policy is pay to play who likes that.

So is Trump's if you listen to his campaign rhetoric. There isn't any sense debating this. Hillary was more hardline against Russia than Trump. This one acquisition doesn't really do anything to change that. Like I've said before if uranium wasn't the buzzword in this story it wouldn't be a story.

elysiantraveller
10-26-2017, 07:49 PM
Snopes is a joke. Uranium was shipped, out of the U.S., to Canada and then to Europe. See NYT article April 23, 2015 https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Snopes wasn't wrong. ARMZ doesn't have an export license. They aren't the ones who shipped out.

davew
10-26-2017, 08:33 PM
What do you make of the fact the Clinton foundation received $1.5 million and Bill's $500,000 speaking fee. Yup, not related at all.

- was actually closer to $145 million from a few of the people who profited even more in the deal

some yellow cake from the mine has disappeared - it went to Canada and then the trail was lost - can be used for power generation or bombs. I would not be surprised if some ended up in Iran or North Korea, especially since our last great president flew planeloads of cash to Iran in his apology presidency.

Snopes must be getting major funding from DNC and/or Clinton Foundation subsidiary - I predict that great website will not last many more years without lib cash to keep it going

Show Me the Wire
10-26-2017, 08:35 PM
Snopes wasn't wrong. ARMZ doesn't have an export license. They aren't the ones who shipped out.

Snopes clearly states: A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:



Fact, the uranium did not remain under control of Uranium One as the uranium was exported out of the U.S.

These facts were known in 2015. Snopes is making a factualy incorrect statement.

I am assuming the Snopes article had been written after the NYT's article, as Thebart, cited the article as if it was a current article. If Thebart cited an outdated article shame on him.

elysiantraveller
10-26-2017, 09:14 PM
Snopes clearly states:

Fact, the uranium did not remain under control of Uranium One as the uranium was exported out of the U.S.

These facts were known in 2015. Snopes is making a factualy incorrect statement.

I am assuming the Snopes article had been written after the NYT's article, as Thebart, cited the article as if it was a current article. If Thebart cited an outdated article shame on him.

Re-read and it appears you are correct though I'm sure legal maneuvering was done as a workaround. In any case I'm in no mood to defend snopes. Nor do I really care about the uranium even though it appears it came back and also went to allies. This is a non-story it the item weren't uranium. The article even states the mines were shut down as demand at the time was low. Hence why this isn't nearly as big a deal as it was originally made out to be.

chadk66
10-26-2017, 09:23 PM
who the hell would quote snopes, they have zero credibility anymore. they fooled a lot of people for a few years. not anymore.

FantasticDan
10-26-2017, 11:28 PM
who the hell would quote snopes, they have zero credibility anymore. they fooled a lot of people for a few years. not anymore.Awww, they're not fooling people anymore? How come?? Has Trump put a stop to it??? :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

Clocker
10-26-2017, 11:44 PM
Awww, they're not fooling people anymore? How come?? Has Trump put a stop to it??? :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

He has. Trump was the first to apply the term "fake" to the media, and it stopped Snopes and others right in their tracks.

“The media is really, the word — one of the greatest of all terms I've come up with, is 'fake,'" he told Mike Huckabee in an interview on the Trinity Broadcasting Network earlier this month. “I guess other people have used it, perhaps, over the years but I've never noticed it.”https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/26/trump-falsely-claims-again-that-he-coined-the-term-fake-news/?utm_term=.4cc84bd20cc8

Fager Fan
10-26-2017, 11:51 PM
There is a good possibility they are related. The problem is that wasn't the concern when this "scandal" first broke. The scandal was right wing media outlets and a uninformed President making false statements painting this as a national security issue that his supporters believed.

We call this a moving target or moving the goalposts.


What? This was always about many things (the list of wrong-doing is long).

elysiantraveller
10-27-2017, 12:16 AM
What? This was always about many things (the list of wrong-doing is long).

"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things."

That was the original story.

davew
10-27-2017, 12:55 AM
who the hell would quote snopes, they have zero credibility anymore. they fooled a lot of people for a few years. not anymore.

the 'non-deplorables' who are still part of the democult party

woodtoo
10-27-2017, 05:06 AM
House intel Commitee Chairman David Nunes announces Uranium One Probe.
Probe 1-Discover if there was an ongoing FBI investigation into the company
at the time the Obama Administration gave the green light to the controversial
purchase.

Probe 2-If so, how CFIUS approved the purchase during an FBI investigation.

Probe 3-Why?

incoming
10-27-2017, 07:14 AM
lit'em up woodtoo...he's a moron.

Fager Fan
10-27-2017, 08:17 AM
"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things."

That was the original story.

It wasn't the original story that I heard. Dems paying for the dossier came out first. There were many issues being added to the list.

FantasticDan
10-27-2017, 11:18 AM
Salon sums up what a joke this new Hillary "scandal" is:

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/27/hillary-clintons-real-russia-scandal-the-vast-right-wing-conspiracy-will-never-die/

Tom
10-27-2017, 11:22 AM
Salon is a joke.

woodtoo
10-27-2017, 01:34 PM
Hillary is too.

dartman51
10-27-2017, 04:16 PM
Salon is a joke.


:ThmbUp::ThmbUp: Salon is a bigger joke than Snopes. :D

fast4522
10-27-2017, 04:40 PM
:ThmbUp::ThmbUp: Salon is a bigger joke than Snopes. :D

The biggest joke is those who believe them.

woodtoo
10-29-2017, 11:51 AM
House intel Commitee Chairman David Nunes announces Uranium One Probe.
Probe 1-Discover if there was an ongoing FBI investigation into the company
at the time the Obama Administration gave the green light to the controversial
purchase.

Probe 2-If so, how CFIUS approved the purchase during an FBI investigation.

Probe 3-Why?

7 of 9 people on CFIUS board are connected to Clinton Foundation. Fact.
Time for some justice.

FantasticDan
10-29-2017, 12:11 PM
Don't worry, the "doesn't make any sense" part won't get in the way of PA posters (or Trump, or Trump-ette members of Congress) :lol:

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-conspiracy-theory-distraction-trump-russia-694525

woodtoo
10-29-2017, 02:05 PM
Don't worry, the "doesn't make any sense" part won't get in the way of PA posters (or Trump, or Trump-ette members of Congress) :lol:

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-conspiracy-theory-distraction-trump-russia-694525

Of course it doesn't make any sense to you, it never will. Following the money is wasted on you.

upthecreek
10-29-2017, 05:50 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/uranium-one-scandal-fake-news-clinton-story-revived-1083632195592

woodtoo
10-31-2017, 11:37 AM
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men too do nothing" - Edmund Burke

Enter the lion(Trump) still have hope Mueller wears a white hat.

woodtoo
11-05-2017, 10:50 AM
Fusion GPS asks court to block its bank from releasing payments to journalists and others. Why pay journalists you ask?

JustRalph
11-05-2017, 05:20 PM
Fusion GPS asks court to block its bank from releasing payments to journalists and others. Why pay journalists you ask?

I’m sure that happens all the time

Tom
11-05-2017, 05:54 PM
They will print whatever you will pay for.
Journalists are a lot like hookers, but with a lot less class.

davew
11-05-2017, 07:05 PM
They will print whatever you will pay for.
Journalists are a lot like hookers, but with a lot less class.

they don't need class to be a successful journalist

Tom
11-06-2017, 11:22 AM
Ah yes, as anyone on CNN or PMSNBC goes to show....

woodtoo
11-06-2017, 01:13 PM
I’m sure that happens all the time

True but what they are accused of is paying journalists to spread Russian collusion claims.

Your beloved Capitals are also involved, just this weekend I heard the announcer say "the Capitols are Russian up the ice attempting to Putin the puck in the net" :lol:

davew
11-21-2017, 11:57 PM
the DOJ released the name of the undercover informant that was paid over $200K for expenses...

I wonder if he will still be alive to show and tell Congress about the corruption, bribery and kickbacks he saw while collecting information for 6 years?

chadk66
11-24-2017, 07:10 PM
the DOJ released the name of the undercover informant that was paid over $200K for expenses...

I wonder if he will still be alive to show and tell Congress about the corruption, bribery and kickbacks he saw while collecting information for 6 years?
dead in 48 hours of clintonian suicide of course.

davew
12-21-2017, 06:50 PM
Sessions said he was reopening the case

probably have to look at quite a few cases with the top FBI leadership being politically corrupt.

davew
11-15-2018, 11:15 PM
over 20 top DOJ/FBI people fired or quit during last 2 years ...

it is starting to look like this has been swept under the rug as long as Meuller is drawing attention away from his crew and focused on Trump colluding with Russia to steal election from the 'most qualified ever' candidate.

davew
06-08-2019, 08:13 PM
Uranium One scandal won't go away for the most corrupt administration ever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NhLg-KohtY

Greyfox
06-09-2019, 01:20 AM
Uranium One scandal won't go away for the most corrupt administration ever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NhLg-KohtY

Interesting stuff. :ThmbUp:

davew
12-22-2020, 02:33 AM
a chinese company Hunter Biden getting money from wants to buy the russian uranium company



the scandel imvolving 0bama regime corruption mat come to light, especially if the deleted Hilary emails become published.

davew
12-24-2020, 10:56 PM
Clinton, Burisma, Ukraine .... corruption



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaM4w8920wc