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Overkill
09-25-2017, 03:30 PM
Hello all,

I am new to Pace Advantage and wanted to post in a more populous area of this site, but because my post involves greyhounds and not horses, here goes.

I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.

The beauty is that you don't need to take my word for it. You can look at past performance results at various tracks across the country and see approximately how we would have done, and you can also look at future races and see approximately how we would have done. I say "approximately" because, as you know, with parimutuel wagering the posted payouts do not and will not have included our winning ticket, so the payouts posted will necessarily be a bit bigger than they would have been had we made an actual (vs. a hypothetical) bet.

Let me know if interested, or put me in touch with someone who may be interested. I am currently working on a way to demonstrate to people like yourself that the strategy works before you spend a nickel. But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

Finally, would it be totally against the rules for me to post this post in the general thoroughbred section of this site, where there is more traffic?

Thank you

PaceAdvantage
09-25-2017, 03:44 PM
If you have a winning strategy, scale down, start small, and keep all the money.

Or, if you can't start small, find a way to get a loan from a bank or maybe a 2nd mortgage...anything that would avoid taking on "financial backers"

That just sounds like a recipe for disaster (even more so than a 2nd mortgage...:pound:)

Something tells me you're not going to get the response you might have hoped for on here...

Robert Fischer
09-25-2017, 03:58 PM
Let's just say I know a guy, who knows a guy, who can get Overkill exactly the kind of loan he needs.

incoming
09-25-2017, 06:22 PM
Hello all,

I am new to Pace Advantage and wanted to post in a more populous area of this site, but because my post involves greyhounds and not horses, here goes.

I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.

The beauty is that you don't need to take my word for it. You can look at past performance results at various tracks across the country and see approximately how we would have done, and you can also look at future races and see approximately how we would have done. I say "approximately" because, as you know, with parimutuel wagering the posted payouts do not and will not have included our winning ticket, so the payouts posted will necessarily be a bit bigger than they would have been had we made an actual (vs. a hypothetical) bet.

Let me know if interested, or put me in touch with someone who may be interested. I am currently working on a way to demonstrate to people like yourself that the strategy works before you spend a nickel. But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

Finally, would it be totally against the rules for me to post this post in the general thoroughbred section of this site, where there is more traffic?

Thank you

If I could be so bold to offer a sweetener that will be sure to attract many PA members as your investors. Just donate half of your winnings to the CLINTON FOUNDATION.... Instant investors!!!: cool:

thaskalos
09-25-2017, 08:11 PM
How much cash is needed for this venture? I am always on the lookout for promising start-ups.

mabred
09-25-2017, 08:57 PM
what dog track will u be playing??? those pools are small !!

and like u said will be smaller when u bet into them.

Which track will u be playing into.My friends all play plam beach

where the pools are about the size of a small horse track 400k to 500k

on a friday or sat.

The other tracks are a waste.


Mabred

davew
09-26-2017, 12:22 AM
From your intro paragraph it seems you will be investing over $1500/ card cashing between 2-3 races and netting near $500. Very likely W2-G's will be involved.

The strategies I know of that cash so infrequently would involve superfecta, trifecta or longshots. Most of the high pay-offs do not have many winning tickets and another (yours) will have a big impact on the pay-off.

I suggest you become familiar with the pari-mutual system, if you are not now. Also I suggest a rebate ADW such as nhplay/amwager where you can get up to 20% of each dollar wagered back (depending on track and pool), whether you win or not.

Delphi forums have some dedicated greyhound forums, although some not very active.


Statistics and probabilities can only take you so far - good luck.


How many thousands are you needing to raise to be comfortable betting your method?

Jess Hawsen Arown
09-26-2017, 08:52 AM
Hello all,

I am new to Pace Advantage and wanted to post in a more populous area of this site, but because my post involves greyhounds and not horses, here goes.

I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.

The beauty is that you don't need to take my word for it. You can look at past performance results at various tracks across the country and see approximately how we would have done, and you can also look at future races and see approximately how we would have done. I say "approximately" because, as you know, with parimutuel wagering the posted payouts do not and will not have included our winning ticket, so the payouts posted will necessarily be a bit bigger than they would have been had we made an actual (vs. a hypothetical) bet.

Let me know if interested, or put me in touch with someone who may be interested. I am currently working on a way to demonstrate to people like yourself that the strategy works before you spend a nickel. But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

Finally, would it be totally against the rules for me to post this post in the general thoroughbred section of this site, where there is more traffic?

Thank you

1) What do the greyhounds handle every race?
2) What pool(s) would you be attacking?
3) Finally, post selections and results in the forum. Get lucky for two weeks and you will get investors.

Parkview_Pirate
09-26-2017, 06:16 PM
I know know it may sound ridiculous, ....
...But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

And P.T. Barnum is spinning in his grave...;)

AndyC
09-26-2017, 06:27 PM
.......
I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For someone with such an extensive education and more importantly not a degenerate gambler, you sure are not getting it done financially. If you had, in fact, developed a strategy you would have tested it with real dollars and been able to proceed with your profits.

When you do get things rolling you might want to look me up to invest some of those profits in my lotto selection system. It's almost like knowing the numbers before there drawn.

thaskalos
09-26-2017, 06:32 PM
Hello all,

I am new to Pace Advantage and wanted to post in a more populous area of this site, but because my post involves greyhounds and not horses, here goes.

I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.

The beauty is that you don't need to take my word for it. You can look at past performance results at various tracks across the country and see approximately how we would have done, and you can also look at future races and see approximately how we would have done. I say "approximately" because, as you know, with parimutuel wagering the posted payouts do not and will not have included our winning ticket, so the payouts posted will necessarily be a bit bigger than they would have been had we made an actual (vs. a hypothetical) bet.

Let me know if interested, or put me in touch with someone who may be interested. I am currently working on a way to demonstrate to people like yourself that the strategy works before you spend a nickel. But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

Finally, would it be totally against the rules for me to post this post in the general thoroughbred section of this site, where there is more traffic?

Thank you

You are starting to lose me here, Overkill. It that all the "financial backing" that you are looking for...$100 a week?? How big of an obstacle is that for a guy with a masters degree?

Boris
09-26-2017, 07:33 PM
Hello all,
For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.
Thank you
User name checks out! :ThmbUp:

davew
09-26-2017, 10:13 PM
You are starting to lose me here, Overkill. It that all the "financial backing" that you are looking for...$100 a week?? How big of an obstacle is that for a guy with a masters degree?



over $1500 / card - many handles below $150K/ card

DeltaLover
09-26-2017, 10:20 PM
Hello all,

I am new to Pace Advantage and wanted to post in a more populous area of this site, but because my post involves greyhounds and not horses, here goes.

I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.

The beauty is that you don't need to take my word for it. You can look at past performance results at various tracks across the country and see approximately how we would have done, and you can also look at future races and see approximately how we would have done. I say "approximately" because, as you know, with parimutuel wagering the posted payouts do not and will not have included our winning ticket, so the payouts posted will necessarily be a bit bigger than they would have been had we made an actual (vs. a hypothetical) bet.

Let me know if interested, or put me in touch with someone who may be interested. I am currently working on a way to demonstrate to people like yourself that the strategy works before you spend a nickel. But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

Finally, would it be totally against the rules for me to post this post in the general thoroughbred section of this site, where there is more traffic?

Thank you

Fund yourself and let us know how it goes; after all the amount you are talking about is not significant and can be easily gathered especially from somebody who claims to have an advanced degree. My prediction though is that the chances to make any significant money using your "non based on handicapping system" are close to zero. Betting crows are deceivingly tough although you probably cannot realize it right now.. If you try you will shortly figure it out!

ElKabong
09-27-2017, 01:37 AM
This thread hardens back to posters like MoGreen circa 2001. Can't help but read and chuckle :)

Jess Hawsen Arown
09-27-2017, 10:31 AM
Hello all,

I am new to Pace Advantage and wanted to post in a more populous area of this site, but because my post involves greyhounds and not horses, here goes.

I know know it may sound ridiculous, but I believe I have developed a strategy (not based on handicapping) that makes a good amount of money at greyhound racing, not horse racing. I have a statistics background and a masters degree and am not a degenerate gambler:). I am currently looking for financial backers (it costs over $100 per race to implement the strategy) to split the profits with. But we can start slowly and just bet, perhaps, one race per week for a while until the profits add up.

For a 15 race performance (matinee or evening), we will win (on average) 2-3 of the races, and for this 15-race performance, our total profit will be roughly, on average, $500. Also, it seems the strategy works at multiple greyhound tracks across the country (world?), so you can see the profit potential is pretty high.

The beauty is that you don't need to take my word for it. You can look at past performance results at various tracks across the country and see approximately how we would have done, and you can also look at future races and see approximately how we would have done. I say "approximately" because, as you know, with parimutuel wagering the posted payouts do not and will not have included our winning ticket, so the payouts posted will necessarily be a bit bigger than they would have been had we made an actual (vs. a hypothetical) bet.

Let me know if interested, or put me in touch with someone who may be interested. I am currently working on a way to demonstrate to people like yourself that the strategy works before you spend a nickel. But I also want to do so without you being able to figure out the strategy and then walk away.

Finally, would it be totally against the rules for me to post this post in the general thoroughbred section of this site, where there is more traffic?

Thank you

Wondering is the Masters degree'd, statistics expert knows about the over- the-top cruelty to animals that is a a mainstay of greyhound racing. For those who don't know, visit a dog breeding farm one day. It is a graveyard for pups who did not appear to have the confirmation to be adequate racing dogs.

Magister Ludi
09-27-2017, 05:56 PM
You should require an initial bankroll of only $2000 to enable you to implement .8-1 Kelly betting. If you hit a losing streak, you'll have to supplement your bankroll to avoid overbetting it. As your edge evidences itself and your optimal bet is constrained by pool size rather than bankroll, you'll have to break out the linear equations to calculate your optimal bet to maximize your absolute return.