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VigorsTheGrey
09-17-2017, 08:16 PM
Any reasons why the following states do not have parimutuel wagering on horse racing (or maybe even tracks)...?

1. Utah
2. South Dakota
3. Kansas
4. Missouri
5. Wisconsin
6. Mississippi
7. Alabama
8. Georgia
9. South Carolina
10. North Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. Connecticut
13. Rhode Island
14. Vermont
15. New Hampshire
16. Maine
17. Alaska..?
18. Hawaii...?

A whole block of states side by side in the deep south...?

horses4courses
09-17-2017, 08:20 PM
Any reasons why the following states do not have parimutuel wagering on horse racing (or maybe even tracks)...?

1. Utah
2. South Dakota
3. Kansas
4. Missouri
5. Wisconsin
6. Mississippi
7. Alabama
8. Georgia
9. South Carolina
10. North Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. Connecticut
13. Rhode Island
14. Vermont
15. New Hampshire
16. Maine
17. Alaska..?
18. Hawaii...?

A whole block of states side by side in the deep south...?

Just one.......The Bible

VigorsTheGrey
09-17-2017, 08:24 PM
Just one.......The Bible

I can understand Utah, being inhabited by Mormons...

I think you might be on to something here...I wonder if they are dry as well...

ronsmac
09-17-2017, 08:28 PM
Any reasons why the following states do not have parimutuel wagering on horse racing (or maybe even tracks)...?

1. Utah
2. South Dakota
3. Kansas
4. Missouri
5. Wisconsin
6. Mississippi
7. Alabama
8. Georgia
9. South Carolina
10. North Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. Connecticut
13. Rhode Island
14. Vermont
15. New Hampshire
16. Maine
17. Alaska..?
18. Hawaii...?

A whole block of states side by side in the deep south...?Kansas , Alabama, Rhode Island, New Hampshire ,Vermont and Maine used to have tracks. A couple may still have Harness tracks but I'm not sure.

therussmeister
09-17-2017, 08:31 PM
Any reasons why the following states do not have parimutuel wagering on horse racing (or maybe even tracks)...?

1. Utah
2. South Dakota
3. Kansas
4. Missouri
5. Wisconsin
6. Mississippi
7. Alabama
8. Georgia
9. South Carolina
10. North Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. Connecticut
13. Rhode Island
14. Vermont
15. New Hampshire
16. Maine
17. Alaska..?
18. Hawaii...?

A whole block of states side by side in the deep south...?

Some of these had thoroughbred tracks at one time: Alabama, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and either Kansas or Missouri (don't remember which state Woodlands was in) but they failed.

Some have other forms of racing: Wisconsin has dog racing and I believe Maine has harness.

And I believe Tennessee has, or had, a law allowing racing but no one wanted to build a track there.

Utah is too religious.

zico20
09-17-2017, 08:33 PM
Any reasons why the following states do not have parimutuel wagering on horse racing (or maybe even tracks)...?

1. Utah
2. South Dakota
3. Kansas
4. Missouri
5. Wisconsin
6. Mississippi
7. Alabama
8. Georgia
9. South Carolina
10. North Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. Connecticut
13. Rhode Island
14. Vermont
15. New Hampshire
16. Maine
17. Alaska..?
18. Hawaii...?

A whole block of states side by side in the deep south...?

43 states have legalized parimutuel wagering. Here is the list.

https://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/united-states/pari-mutuel

therussmeister
09-17-2017, 08:35 PM
Also, I believe Connecticut has OTBs and/or ADWs.

VigorsTheGrey
09-17-2017, 08:38 PM
43 states have legalized parimutuel wagering. Here is the list.

https://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/united-states/pari-mutuel

Interesting..."That leaves only 7 states in the US who do not currently offer legal pari-mutuel wagers...

...These 7 states include: Alaska, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah."

ronsmac
09-17-2017, 08:49 PM
Interesting..."That leaves only 7 states in the US who do not currently offer legal pari-mutuel wagers...

...These 7 states include: Alaska, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah."
They've been talking about bringing horse racing to the Atlanta area for at least 5 years but it's still talk.

Afleet
09-17-2017, 10:19 PM
Just one.......The Bible

The bible has nothing to do with it. My state has the lottery, 3 riverboat casinos, but its illegal to bet on the KY derby:bang:. I have to drive out of state to bet-sucks ass and my car has a lot of miles on it. With that said I'm going to Remington for the Derby this Sunday; really looking forward to it. A pleasant 5+ hour drive one way. And some people think I have a gambling problem:cool:

wisconsin
09-18-2017, 10:33 AM
Wisconsin has dog racing

All 5 tracks have closed , 4 of which have already been torn down.

There was talk of a horse track going up in Elkhorn, MacArthur Downs. Never came to be.

Track Collector
09-18-2017, 11:09 AM
Maine has 2 active commercial harness tracks, and a number of pari-mutuel wagering fairs.

South Dakota currently has 2 pari-mutuel racing "fairs" which feature a combination of thoroughbred and quarterhorse races, but there is talk they may both end racing in 2018.

Fred
09-18-2017, 12:09 PM
Parimutuel wagering is legal in Tennessee but no tracks or off track facility. Most ADW sites will allow you to open an account and accept your wagers if you reside in TN

Appy
09-18-2017, 12:19 PM
"Some of these had thoroughbred tracks at one time: Alabama, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and either Kansas or Missouri (don't remember which state Woodlands was in) but they failed."

I can only speak to Kansas. The tracks in Kansas DID NOT FAIL. The political change in state government failed the tracks by essentially creating a monopoly favoring state owned casinos while initiating taxation rates (a difference of approximately 22%) making it impossible for the tracks to operate at a profit.
There has been a bill to correct the different rates and reopen the tracks (Woodlands and Eureka) written to be submitted for vote for several years now but the governor and his crew have delayed and played politics to keep it off the floor. The new bill provides for an extended meet length for Woodlands and relegates Eureka to fair meet status. By this time general failure of the state budget has escalated to a point where other issues take precedence, so horse racing is once again in the closet. However, political control appears to be gravitating in a more moderate direction, so there is renewed hope the tracks will reopen in accordance to the new bill in the foreseeable future.

betovernetcapper
09-18-2017, 12:56 PM
Alaska is too cold much of the year for racing. It's at the end of the world and very expensive to bring anything in. Shipping horses, jockeys, hay and whatever would be very expensive for a short meeting.

As for Hawaii, are horse's part of their culture? They have a lot of rules about brining horses into Hawaii. The very few horses they seem to have are mixed breed pleasure horses. I don't know much about the state, but they don't seem to have a burning desire for a track.

wisconsin
09-18-2017, 02:11 PM
Hawaii used to have horse racing...


http://www.hawaiiforvisitors.com/activities/horse-racing-history.htm

Track Collector
09-18-2017, 09:33 PM
"Some of these had thoroughbred tracks at one time: Alabama, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and either Kansas or Missouri (don't remember which state Woodlands was in) but they failed."

I can only speak to Kansas. The tracks in Kansas DID NOT FAIL. The political change in state government failed the tracks by essentially creating a monopoly favoring state owned casinos while initiating taxation rates (a difference of approximately 22%) making it impossible for the tracks to operate at a profit.
There has been a bill to correct the different rates and reopen the tracks (Woodlands and Eureka) written to be submitted for vote for several years now but the governor and his crew have delayed and played politics to keep it off the floor. The new bill provides for an extended meet length for Woodlands and relegates Eureka to fair meet status. By this time general failure of the state budget has escalated to a point where other issues take precedence, so horse racing is once again in the closet. However, political control appears to be gravitating in a more moderate direction, so there is renewed hope the tracks will reopen in accordance to the new bill in the foreseeable future.

I have never been to the Woodlands, so it would be nice to add them to my visit list if racing ever returns there. As to Eureka, that was a great little track and I would love to go back there again sometime. I was able to get in several days at the very interesting Anthony Downs, where they alternated dog and horse races. And the horse races included TB, QH, and paint/appaloosa. I think they closed up for good in 2012 when the property was redeveloped. Too bad, as they had conducted races for over 100 years!

Please keep us posted on any racing developments. Thanks!

theiman
09-18-2017, 10:22 PM
Interesting..."That leaves only 7 states in the US who do not currently offer legal pari-mutuel wagers...

...These 7 states include: Alaska, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah."

Georgia
Misssissippi
North Carolina
South Carolina

All have something called NASCAR. I doubt there are any fans left for horses.