Saturday TimeformUS Speed Figures---Saratoga

[cj]

For those wondering, fairly good rule of thumb is TimeformUS - 20 is Beyer scale. Obviously that can vary race to race.

https://twitter.com/TimeformUSfigs/status/901633132796968960
https://twitter.com/TimeformUSfigs/status/901633537551556608
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[Tom]

Thanks, CJ!

[GMB@BP]

was the pace legit in the Travers, if it was then West Coast stamps himself as a serious player the next year or two.

[cj]

was the pace legit in the Travers, if it was then West Coast stamps himself as a serious player the next year or two.

1/2 133.54
3/4 130.45
1M 128.90
FIN 131.99

[GMB@BP]

1/2 133.54
3/4 130.45
1M 128.90
FIN 131.99

Thats legit enough for me, similar to the pacific classic.

[cj]

Thats legit enough for me, similar to the pacific classic.

I'll be honest, a little hesitant. All the horses on the board ran tops and the race was surrounded by turf races. There was an hour and a half between dirt races. But these are young, talented three year olds that have every right to improve. West Coast ran a 122 last out despite being really wide the whole way. I think the number is legit. Pretty amazing two years running Baffert's best 3yo missed the entire Triple Crown.

[GMB@BP]

I'll be honest, a little hesitant. All the horses on the board ran tops and the race was surrounded by turf races. There was an hour and a half between dirt races. But these are young, talented three year olds that have every right to improve. West Coast ran a 122 last out despite being really wide the whole way. I think the number is legit. Pretty amazing two years running Baffert's best 3yo missed the entire Triple Crown.

I will add this to that, 15 years ago he probably rushes both the horses but now there is no reason too and they both had progressed.

Even if its a few points to high its still very competitive.