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TheOracle
08-13-2017, 11:30 AM
Pletcher's horses have been almost automatic at Saratoga when their Morning Lines are less than 3-1 his horses have won 13 out of 28 attempts in this situation!!!

You are getting a 34% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!


http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavssar.jpg


However, back to back wins have been followed by losses and he had back to back wins yesterday so we will have to see what his Morning Lines less than 3-1 do today!!!

I haven't seen this type of consistency from him in quite a while let's see if he can keep it going for the rest of the Saratoga season!!!


When you peel back a layer 11 of the 13 wins in this situation were on the Dirt and you are getting a 33% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavsdrtsar.jpg

Also 10 of the last 10 have finished no worse than 2nd in this situation!!!

I will be keeping a close eye on his horses on the Dirt when their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

TheOracle
08-13-2017, 05:33 PM
Pletcher's horses have been almost automatic at Saratoga when their Morning Lines are less than 3-1 his horses have won 13 out of 28 attempts in this situation!!!

You are getting a 34% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!


http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavssar.jpg


However, back to back wins have been followed by losses and he had back to back wins yesterday so we will have to see what his Morning Lines less than 3-1 do today!!!

I haven't seen this type of consistency from him in quite a while let's see if he can keep it going for the rest of the Saratoga season!!!


When you peel back a layer 11 of the 13 wins in this situation were on the Dirt and you are getting a 33% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavsdrtsar.jpg

Also 10 of the last 10 have finished no worse than 2nd in this situation!!!

I will be keeping a close eye on his horses on the Dirt when their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!


Pletcher has a Morning Line less than 3-1 entered in 4th race at Saratoga tomorrow:

4th race
#6 Gidu

However, this race is on the Turf but let's see if he can get this one to win!!!

TheOracle
08-14-2017, 07:37 AM
Pletcher's horses have been almost automatic at Saratoga when their Morning Lines are less than 3-1 his horses have won 13 out of 28 attempts in this situation!!!

You are getting a 34% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!


http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavssar.jpg


However, back to back wins have been followed by losses and he had back to back wins yesterday so we will have to see what his Morning Lines less than 3-1 do today!!!

I haven't seen this type of consistency from him in quite a while let's see if he can keep it going for the rest of the Saratoga season!!!


When you peel back a layer 11 of the 13 wins in this situation were on the Dirt and you are getting a 33% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavsdrtsar.jpg

Also 10 of the last 10 have finished no worse than 2nd in this situation!!!

I will be keeping a close eye on his horses on the Dirt when their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

I missed this one from Pletcher yesterday as it was 5/2 in the Morning Line
#10 Itsabigboy in the 10th race at Saratoga another winner for Pletcher less than 3-1 in the Morning Line on the Dirt!!!

This now makes 12 of 23 that have won for him in this situation!!!

TheOracle
08-14-2017, 12:09 PM
Pletcher has a Morning Line less than 3-1 entered in 4th race at Saratoga tomorrow:

4th race
#6 Gidu

However, this race is on the Turf but let's see if he can get this one to win!!!

In addition, to #6 Gidu in the 4th race he also has these:

6th race
#4 Win With Pride

9th race
#10 Snag


However, these are also on the Turf and his horses have been struggling on the Turf when they are less than 3-1 in the Morning line they have only won 2 of their last 6 attempts at Saratoga

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavtrfsar.jpg

Let's see if he can get a win or two from these today at the Spa!!!

4th race
#6 Gidu

6th race
#4 Win With Pride

9th race
#10 Snag

TheOracle
08-16-2017, 12:16 PM
In addition, to #6 Gidu in the 4th race he also has these:

6th race
#4 Win With Pride

9th race
#10 Snag


However, these are also on the Turf and his horses have been struggling on the Turf when they are less than 3-1 in the Morning line they have only won 2 of their last 6 attempts at Saratoga

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchermlfavtrfsar.jpg

Let's see if he can get a win or two from these today at the Spa!!!

4th race
#6 Gidu

6th race
#4 Win With Pride

9th race
#10 Snag



Although Pletcher let us down Monday in terms of wins, all 3 of his horses hit the board and if you played all of them to show you got $9.90 for your effort and at $2 per show wager you got a 65% return on your money!!!

So in this case, show betting was more profitable than win betting although that doesn't happen very often with Morning Line Favorites

In any event, these were all on the Turf and so they will not qualify for the study

He has this one entered today in the 10th race

10th race
#3 Irst

Let's see if he can get the win with this one as it will qualify for the study!!!

TheOracle
08-17-2017, 12:00 AM
Although Pletcher let us down Monday in terms of wins, all 3 of his horses hit the board and if you played all of them to show you got $9.90 for your effort and at $2 per show wager you got a 65% return on your money!!!

So in this case, show betting was more profitable than win betting although that doesn't happen very often with Morning Line Favorites

In any event, these were all on the Turf and so they will not qualify for the study

He has this one entered today in the 10th race

10th race
#3 Irst

Let's see if he can get the win with this one as it will qualify for the study!!!


Well Pletcher let us down today as #3 Irst finished 2nd paying $5.70 across the board

However he does have a streak of 11 in a row that have finished no worse than 2nd when his horses Morning Lines are less than 3-1 on the Dirt!!!

TheOracle
08-17-2017, 11:03 AM
Well Pletcher let us down today as #3 Irst finished 2nd paying $5.70 across the board

However he does have a streak of 11 in a row that have finished no worse than 2nd when his horses Morning Lines are less than 3-1 on the Dirt!!!

Let's see if he can get this one to win today and he has a streak of 11 in a row that have finished no worse than 2nd when his horses are on the Dirt and their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

3rd race
#3 Thebigfundamental

Let's see if he can get the streak to 12 today with a win!!!

TheOracle
08-17-2017, 11:43 PM
Let's see if he can get this one to win today and he has a streak of 11 in a row that have finished no worse than 2nd when his horses are on the Dirt and their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

3rd race
#3 Thebigfundamental

Let's see if he can get the streak to 12 today with a win!!!


Well Pletcher redeemed himself from yesterday and got the win with #3 Thebigfundamental on the Dirt today and extended the streak to 12 in a row that have finished no worse than 2nd when his horses are on the Dirt and their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherlssthronesar.jpg

I still can't get over how his horses are winning at over 50% in this situation the average win price is $5 and you are getting a 36% return per $2 win wager in this situation at Saratoga not too shabby for some Favorites!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #3 Thebigfundamental play today and were able to make a profit!!!

TheOracle
08-17-2017, 11:56 PM
Well Pletcher redeemed himself from yesterday and got the win with #3 Thebigfundamental on the Dirt today and extended the streak to 12 in a row that have finished no worse than 2nd when his horses are on the Dirt and their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherlssthronesar.jpg

I still can't get over how his horses are winning at over 50% in this situation the average win price is $5 and you are getting a 36% return per $2 win wager in this situation at Saratoga not too shabby for some Favorites!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #3 Thebigfundamental play today and were able to make a profit!!!

I am really surprised to see Pletcher's horses doing so well as Favorites his horses have done practically nothing for quite a while now but they are giving some profits!!!

Let's hope it continues for the rest of the Saratoga season!!!

TheOracle
08-18-2017, 12:16 PM
I am really surprised to see Pletcher's horses doing so well as Favorites his horses have done practically nothing for quite a while now but they are giving some profits!!!

Let's hope it continues for the rest of the Saratoga season!!!


Pletcher has this today at Saratoga in the 10th race on the Dirt

10th race
#2 Sanavi

Let's see if he can get the win with this one and make it 13 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirt with a Morning Line less than 3-1!!!

TheOracle
08-18-2017, 02:15 PM
Pletcher has this today at Saratoga in the 10th race on the Dirt

10th race
#2 Sanavi

Let's see if he can get the win with this one and make it 13 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirt with a Morning Line less than 3-1!!!

Since the 4th and the 6th races at Saratoga are off the Turf Pletcher's horses will qualify for the study

4th race
#7 El Dulce

6th race
#9 Caviar Czar

Let's see if he can get these to the winners circle in the 4th and the 6th at the Spa!!!

TheOracle
08-18-2017, 09:38 PM
Pletcher has this today at Saratoga in the 10th race on the Dirt

10th race
#2 Sanavi

Let's see if he can get the win with this one and make it 13 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirt with a Morning Line less than 3-1!!!

Since the 4th and the 6th races at Saratoga are off the Turf Pletcher's horses will qualify for the study

4th race
#7 El Dulce

6th race
#9 Caviar Czar

Let's see if he can get these to the winners circle in the 4th and the 6th at the Spa!!!


Well Pletcher remains hot when his horses are on the Dirt and their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersarlthronedrt.jpg

This makes 15 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirt with a Morning Line less than 3-1 since August 3rd!!!

You are getting a 40% return per $2 win wager in this situation not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!

His horses are winning at 53% in this situation since the start of the Saratoga season!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #2 Sanavi and the #9 Caviar Czar plays!!!

TheOracle
08-18-2017, 09:51 PM
Well Pletcher remains hot when his horses are on the Dirt and their Morning Line is less than 3-1!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersarlthronedrt.jpg

This makes 15 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirt with a Morning Line less than 3-1 since August 3rd!!!

You are getting a 40% return per $2 win wager in this situation not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!

His horses are winning at 53% in this situation since the start of the Saratoga season!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #2 Sanavi and the #9 Caviar Czar plays!!!


If you played Pletcher's horses today with Morning Lines less than 3-1 you got a 68% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchertdysarlstrhrdrt.jpg

I was hoping for three wins in a row in this situation but #7 El Dulce let me down but still ran 2nd to keep the streak going at 15 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd!!!

TheOracle
08-19-2017, 10:09 AM
If you played Pletcher's horses today with Morning Lines less than 3-1 you got a 68% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchertdysarlstrhrdrt.jpg

I was hoping for three wins in a row in this situation but #7 El Dulce let me down but still ran 2nd to keep the streak going at 15 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd!!!


Since August 3rd Pletcher's horses have hit the board and finished no worse than 2nd in 16 straight attempts on the Dirt at Saratoga!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersxtnsardrt.jpg

For the season so far you are getting a 78% return per $2 win wager on his horses in this situation!!!

You are also getting a 52% return per $2 win place and show wager in this situation not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!

He has this today in the 10th race if it comes off the Turf

10th race
#15 Tapella (KY) (MTO)

Let's see if he can get this one to the winners circle if it comes off the Turf today!!!

TheOracle
08-19-2017, 11:47 AM
Since August 3rd Pletcher's horses have hit the board and finished no worse than 2nd in 16 straight attempts on the Dirt at Saratoga!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersxtnsardrt.jpg

For the season so far you are getting a 78% return per $2 win wager on his horses in this situation!!!

You are also getting a 52% return per $2 win place and show wager in this situation not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!

He has this today in the 10th race if it comes off the Turf

10th race
#15 Tapella (KY) (MTO)

Let's see if he can get this one to the winners circle if it comes off the Turf today!!!

It seems that back to back wins are usually followed by a 2nd place finish so I suspect that his next entry will come 2nd and maybe the entry after that might take the win!!!

We will see!!!

I will compute the show parlay returns in another post!!!

TheOracle
08-21-2017, 11:19 AM
Since August 3rd Pletcher's horses have hit the board and finished no worse than 2nd in 16 straight attempts on the Dirt at Saratoga!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersxtnsardrt.jpg

For the season so far you are getting a 78% return per $2 win wager on his horses in this situation!!!

You are also getting a 52% return per $2 win place and show wager in this situation not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!

He has this today in the 10th race if it comes off the Turf

10th race
#15 Tapella (KY) (MTO)

Let's see if he can get this one to the winners circle if it comes off the Turf today!!!

Pletcher has a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt today at Saratoga in the 6th race

6th race
#3 Run and Go

His back to back wins have been followed by a 2nd place finish let's see if he can make it 17 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd as a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt!!!

Let's see if he can get this one to Run and Go into the winners circle today!!!

TheOracle
08-22-2017, 11:36 PM
Pletcher has a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt today at Saratoga in the 6th race

6th race
#3 Run and Go

His back to back wins have been followed by a 2nd place finish let's see if he can make it 17 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd as a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt !!!

Let's see if he can get this one to Run and Go into the winners circle today!!!


Well #3 Run and Go ran and went yesterday and won for Pletcher giving him 18 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd as a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt since August 3rd!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherlsthronestrksar.jpg

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherplcprlysar.jpg

The place parlay is up to over $10,000+ don't know who would be crazy enough to risk $5,750 on #3 Run and Go yesterday but they would have doubled their money!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #3 Run and Go play yesterday and were able to make a profit!!!





He has these two tomorrow in the 2nd race with 3 back to back wins I don't think it's likely he will make it 4 in a row in this situation including a place finish in the same race!!!

2nd race
#1 Donegal Moon
#5 Destin

Leave it to Pletcher to have a good thing going only to mess it up with 2 entries in one race tomorrow at Saratoga

He also has this in the 6th race

6th race
#6 Tapella

I was really looking forward to seeing possibly 20 in a row less than 3-1 in the Morning Line finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirtbut all things must come to an end sometime!!!

I wish he knew what was at stake!!!

TheOracle
08-22-2017, 11:53 PM
Well #3 Run and Go ran and went yesterday and won for Pletcher giving him 18 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd as a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt since August 3rd!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherlsthronestrksar.jpg

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherplcprlysar.jpg

The place parlay is up to over $10,000+ don't know who would be crazy enough to risk $5,750 on #3 Run and Go yesterday but they would have doubled their money!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #3 Run and Go play yesterday and were able to make a profit!!!





He has these two tomorrow in the 2nd race with 3 back to back wins I don't think it's likely he will make it 4 in a row in this situation including a place finish in the same race!!!

2nd race
#1 Donegal Moon
#5 Destin

Leave it to Pletcher to have a good thing going only to mess it up with 2 entries in one race tomorrow at Saratoga

He also has this in the 6th race

6th race
#6 Tapella

I was really looking forward to seeing possibly 20 in a row less than 3-1 in the Morning Line finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirtbut all things must come to an end sometime!!!

I wish he knew what was at stake!!!

Correction it is 17 in a row no worse than 2nd in this situation not 18

TheOracle
08-23-2017, 06:48 AM
Well #3 Run and Go ran and went yesterday and won for Pletcher giving him 18 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd as a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt since August 3rd!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherlsthronestrksar.jpg

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherplcprlysar.jpg

The place parlay is up to over $10,000+ don't know who would be crazy enough to risk $5,750 on #3 Run and Go yesterday but they would have doubled their money!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #3 Run and Go play yesterday and were able to make a profit!!!





He has these two tomorrow in the 2nd race with 3 back to back wins I don't think it's likely he will make it 4 in a row in this situation including a place finish in the same race!!!

2nd race
#1 Donegal Moon
#5 Destin

Leave it to Pletcher to have a good thing going only to mess it up with 2 entries in one race tomorrow at Saratoga

He also has this in the 6th race

6th race
#6 Tapella

I was really looking forward to seeing possibly 20 in a row less than 3-1 in the Morning Line finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirtbut all things must come to an end sometime!!!

I wish he knew what was at stake!!!

The parlay graphic now reflects 17 out of 18 no worse than 2nd in this situation!!!

The last time Pletcher had 2 horses in a race in this situation was on August 10th and they ran 1st and 2nd I am not sure he will have the exacta again in the 2nd race today at Saratoga!!!

TheOracle
08-23-2017, 02:06 PM
Well #3 Run and Go ran and went yesterday and won for Pletcher giving him 18 in a row finishing no worse than 2nd as a Morning Line less than 3-1 on the Dirt since August 3rd!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherlsthronestrksar.jpg

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherplcprlysar.jpg

The place parlay is up to over $10,000+ don't know who would be crazy enough to risk $5,750 on #3 Run and Go yesterday but they would have doubled their money!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the #3 Run and Go play yesterday and were able to make a profit!!!





He has these two tomorrow in the 2nd race with 3 back to back wins I don't think it's likely he will make it 4 in a row in this situation including a place finish in the same race!!!

2nd race
#1 Donegal Moon
#5 Destin

Leave it to Pletcher to have a good thing going only to mess it up with 2 entries in one race tomorrow at Saratoga

He also has this in the 6th race

6th race
#6 Tapella

I was really looking forward to seeing possibly 20 in a row less than 3-1 in the Morning Line finishing no worse than 2nd on the Dirtbut all things must come to an end sometime!!!

I wish he knew what was at stake!!!

Correction #6 Tapella is in the 7th race today not the 6th race

TheOracle
08-23-2017, 11:33 PM
The parlay graphic now reflects 17 out of 18 no worse than 2nd in this situation!!!

The last time Pletcher had 2 horses in a race in this situation was on August 10th and they ran 1st and 2nd I am not sure he will have the exacta again in the 2nd race today at Saratoga!!!


I didn't think in a million years that Pletcher would have had the exacta today in the 2nd race with his horses running 1st and 2nd preserving the place parlay at 19 in a row since August 3rd when his horses are less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and on the Dirt at Saratoga!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherplcprlysardrt.jpg

However, he did it then I thought it would have been possible for him to get 20 in a row and low and behold #6 Tapella runs 3rd to snap the streak at 19

It was truly a great run I would have liked to have seen 20 in a row no worse than 2nd!!!

I'm not sure how to compute the place parlay as you would have had to single either #1 Donegal Moon or #5 Destin to get the parlay on $10,925

Congratulations to those who saw the #5 Destin play and was able to make a profit!!!

Also, congratulations to those who saw the #1 Donegal Moon / #5 Destin exacta and was able to make a profit!!!

n.c
08-24-2017, 05:56 PM
Brown had the early lead, and now it is pletcher. Weekend will decide who wins the Saratoga training title.
Pletcher has won 13 out of 20 races.

TheOracle
08-24-2017, 07:27 PM
Brown had the early lead, and now it is pletcher. Weekend will decide who wins the Saratoga training title.
Pletcher has won 13 out of 20 races.


Hey bro,

Yeah I think Pletcher could win it all but I will see which Trainer had the best return on investment per $2 win place and show with a minimum 40 starts or better!!!

The true Trainer champ should be based on returns of the people who give their money to Saratoga!!!

TheOracle
08-30-2017, 10:00 AM
I didn't think in a million years that Pletcher would have had the exacta today in the 2nd race with his horses running 1st and 2nd preserving the place parlay at 19 in a row since August 3rd when his horses are less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and on the Dirt at Saratoga!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletcherplcprlysardrt.jpg

However, he did it then I thought it would have been possible for him to get 20 in a row and low and behold #6 Tapella runs 3rd to snap the streak at 19

It was truly a great run I would have liked to have seen 20 in a row no worse than 2nd!!!

I'm not sure how to compute the place parlay as you would have had to single either #1 Donegal Moon or #5 Destin to get the parlay on $10,925

Congratulations to those who saw the #5 Destin play and was able to make a profit!!!

Also, congratulations to those who saw the #1 Donegal Moon / #5 Destin exacta and was able to make a profit!!!

Since the streak, Pletcher's horses have been 1 for their last 4 when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line on the Dirt at Saratoga

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersincestrksardrt.jpg

He has this today in the 8th race:

8th race
#6 Mr. Crow

Let's see if we can finish the enitre season on the plus side for Saratoga with Pletcher in this situation!!!

TheOracle
08-30-2017, 10:49 PM
Since the streak, Pletcher's horses have been 1 for their last 4 when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line on the Dirt at Saratoga

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersincestrksardrt.jpg

He has this today in the 8th race:

8th race
#6 Mr. Crow

Let's see if we can finish the enitre season on the plus side for Saratoga with Pletcher in this situation!!!


Well #6 Mr. Crow came through for us today in the 8th race and was the overwhelming favorite he only paid $7.50 across the board but hey, we will take it, beggars can't be choosers!!!

Interesting to note, there were only 2 horses with win payouts under $8 today at Saratoga and #6 Mr. Crow was one of them!!!

Out of the 7 horses he had entered today this was the only one to hit the board and win!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchonlywinsar.jpg

Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!

TheOracle
08-30-2017, 10:57 PM
Well #6 Mr. Crow came through for us today in the 8th race and was the overwhelming favorite he only paid $7.50 across the board but hey, we will take it, beggars can't be choosers!!!

Interesting to note, there were only 2 horses with win payouts under $8 today at Saratoga and #6 Mr. Crow was one of them!!!

Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!


Pletcher's horses are now 2 for their last 5 when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line on the Dirt at Saratoga!!!

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/images/comments/t a pletchersardrtlthrone.jpg

Unless, he messes up very badly he has a chance to finish the season on the plus side in this situation!!!

It will be interesting to see if this carries over into the 2nd half of the season at Belmont!!!

Let's continue to watch his horses in this situation for the remainder of the Saratoga season and hopefully it will end with profits!!!