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molson721
08-05-2017, 05:25 PM
A few years ago, I wrote how these 2 races went off within 30 seconds of one another. As of this writing, the post time for these same 2 races is within 1 minute of each other. Clueless people are still in charge. Will they ever learn???:bang::bang:

Tom
08-05-2017, 05:44 PM
Will they ever CARE?

:4: B Squared in the big race.

Dahoss9698
08-05-2017, 05:46 PM
You can't make this up.

Tom
08-05-2017, 05:54 PM
The better race went off first.

Dahoss9698
08-05-2017, 05:57 PM
If you're Mountaineer why would you want to run your marquee race the EXACT same time as a grade 1 at another track? Boggles the mind.

Tom
08-05-2017, 06:02 PM
Folk there not too bright.
Why even run in the daylight to get a bigger handle and then sabotage the premier race?

Folks not too bright there at all.

cj
08-05-2017, 06:06 PM
Horse racing in a nutshell.

Robert Fischer
08-05-2017, 06:07 PM
incompetence is the only honest answer


Shame, given that the WV-D was actually a much better betting race than the Whitney.

Could have been an encore to the Whitney, rather than compete with New York.

cj
08-05-2017, 06:13 PM
You'd think on their big day they could make the rail at least reasonable instead of having all the horses running eight wide throughout.

Robert Fischer
08-05-2017, 06:15 PM
Horse racing is funny.

The've all got absolutely no media sense.

They all (no track, nyra, cal,fla, no tracks) don't know how to card good betting races, or even to simply card full fields

The rules on the field of play are vague and enforced by inconsistent stewards

no-holds-barred performance enhancement

add in: they don't know how to maintain/configure a fair track

If it wasn't the greatest game in the world, I'd have nothing to do with this crap.

Tom
08-05-2017, 06:32 PM
And they can't time a race.
Don't forget that.
A RACE.
And they can't time it.

Like a high school track meet can.

thaskalos
08-05-2017, 06:51 PM
The industry has a peculiar way of running a game whose betting is driven almost exclusively by out-of-town wagers. 37 thoroughbred racetracks are running today...and all of them are expecting to do business.

JustRalph
08-05-2017, 08:17 PM
The industry has a peculiar way of running a game whose betting is driven almost exclusively by out-of-town wagers. 37 thoroughbred racetracks are running today...and all of them are expecting to do business.

I think that's the real problem. I've been screaming contraction for years. As the pool of players gets smaller, they keep running the same amount of tracks, and at the same time!

ReplayRandall
08-05-2017, 08:36 PM
I think that's the real problem. I've been screaming contraction for years. As the pool of players gets smaller, they keep running the same amount of tracks, and at the same time!

Here's the thread I started a few years back....You got one?

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116948

JustRalph
08-05-2017, 10:09 PM
https://twitter.com/peterberry57/status/894006080984035331

JustRalph
08-05-2017, 10:14 PM
Here's the thread I started a few years back....You got one?

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116948

Really?

Does this one count ?

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78387

CJ and I have both been talking about it for years. And both of us have been trashed for not caring about jobs etc......I don't think I have to dig up every post about the subject......

ReplayRandall
08-05-2017, 10:22 PM
Really?

Does this one count ?

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78387

CJ and I have both been talking about it for years. And both of us have been trashed for not caring about jobs etc......I don't think I have to dig up every post about the subject......

Nah....you don't have to dig up a thing, just read my thread which has 177 posts from various pros and cons of the issue....I took some heat for bringing up contraction, but it comes with the territory when giving an honest opinion. BTW, I couldn't find your name among those 177 posts....You must have been away from the board at that time, I guess.

MonmouthParkJoe
08-05-2017, 10:26 PM
Absolutely boggles my mind. Its not like NYRA has a drag where you cant plan around it. Stay off their post times its pretty simple. There was a study done a couple years back showing how much handle a track would make by avoiding them.

How is this not looked at ahead of time? Amazing.

Tom
08-05-2017, 10:58 PM
The industry has a peculiar way of running a game whose betting is driven almost exclusively by out-of-town wagers. 37 thoroughbred racetracks are running today...and all of them are expecting to do business.

Exactly. Why did MNR not run at night like it usually does?
did they expect to make more money with a daytime crowd?
If they did, the why the Hell run on top of the Whitney?
All in all, I just think they had no plan, just stupidly meandered into it.

btw, Peter Berry, you called the better race. The Whitney was a yawner.
After it was over I could only think, so what?

JustRalph
08-05-2017, 11:32 PM
The best race all day was the Hambo....

And the DQ was a travesty

When I'm watching Harness, there's a problem

cj
08-06-2017, 12:27 AM
https://twitter.com/peterberry57/status/894006080984035331

Peter is awesome, hope he gets a great gig some day.

Zaf
08-06-2017, 12:35 AM
Yes Peter one of the best in the business :headbanger:

Z

tanner12oz
08-08-2017, 06:26 PM
it happens every year