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Pecci
08-03-2017, 11:43 AM
1:1::8::6:
2:13::1::5::2::14:
3:6::4::3::2:
4:3::2::7::6::1a:
5:9::11::5::2:
6:5::7::3::8:
7:8:
8:2::5::1::7:
9:7:
10:10::9::8::2::4::5:

Nitro
08-03-2017, 12:56 PM
GL @ the SPA today Pecci!

Race # 1 – 8-1 W/ 6-4-2 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 01:18 PM
Race # 1 – 8-1 W/ 6-4-2 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 1 = 2-1-8-3 - EX & TRI BX

$2.00 EXACTA – 2-1 - $117.50
$2.00 TRIPLE – 2-1-8 - $553.00

Nitro
08-03-2017, 01:31 PM
Race # 2 – 1-2 W/ 10-12-14 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 01:51 PM
Race # 2 – 1-2 W/ 10-12-14 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 2 = 12-1-14-6 - EX & TRI BX

$2.00 EXACTA – 12-1 - $54.50
$2.00 TRIPLE – 12-1-14 - $331.00

Nitro
08-03-2017, 02:02 PM
Race # 3 – 4-3 W/ 2-6 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 02:16 PM
Race # 3 – 4-3 W/ 2-6 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 3 = 3-4-6-1 - WIN – EX & TRI BX

$2.00 WIN - 3 - $6.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 3-4 - $12.60
$2.00 TRIPLE – 3-4-6 - $18.60

Nitro
08-03-2017, 02:36 PM
Race # 4 – 7-6 W/ 2-4 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 02:55 PM
Race # 4 – 7-6 W/ 2-4 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 4 = 2-4-1-7 - Nothing in that one – both keys failed to get a piece of the money

Nitro
08-03-2017, 03:17 PM
Race # 5 – 9-2 W/ 1-3-10 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 03:33 PM
Race # 5 – 9-2 W/ 1-3-10 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 5 = 8-2-10-9 - Nothing in that one – no action on the LS Winner

Nitro
08-03-2017, 03:50 PM
Race # 6 – 8-11 W/ 2-5-9 @ 4 mins to post

Shooter 79
08-03-2017, 03:52 PM
Race 6

:3: w :5::6::8::10:

Nitro
08-03-2017, 04:19 PM
Race # 6 – 8-11 W/ 2-5-9 @ 4 mins to post

Nice Call Pecci on the Cold Exacta!

Results:

Race # 6 = 5-7-11-6 - Nothing in that one – Late action on the Winner

Nitro
08-03-2017, 04:31 PM
Race # 7 – 1-12 W/ 8-11-7 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 04:46 PM
Race # 7 – 1-12 W/ 8-11-7 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 7 = 11-7-1-9 - TRI BX – Some Late action on the Winner

$2.00 TRIPLE – 11-7-1 - $394.50

Nitro
08-03-2017, 05:09 PM
Race # 8 – 5-1 W/ 2-6 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 05:25 PM
Race # 8 – 5-1 W/ 2-6 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 8 = 1-5-8-2 - WIN – EX

$2.00 WIN - 1 - $4.10 .
$2.00 EXACTA – 1-5 - $11.20

lamboguy
08-03-2017, 05:43 PM
Results:

Race # 7 = 11-7-1-9 - TRI BX – Some Late action on the Winner

$2.00 TRIPLE – 11-7-1 - $394.50 please correct me if i am wrong, it cost you $144 to hit the trifecta that brought back under $400

Nitro
08-03-2017, 05:44 PM
Race # 9 – 7-4 W/ 6-3-12 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
08-03-2017, 05:53 PM
please correct me if i am wrong, it cost you $144 to hit the trifecta that brought back under $400
That would be correct using both Keys w/ 3 others.

1 KEY W/4X3 = 12 X 3 positions (W-P-S) = 36 BETS @ $2 EA = $72 X 2 KEYS = $144

Note If Both Keys are in the money you hit it 2X!

Nitro
08-03-2017, 05:59 PM
Race # 9 – 7-4 W/ 6-3-12 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 9 = 4-12-6-2 - WIN – EX -TRI BX :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 4 - $15.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 4-12 - $338.50
$2.00 TRIPLE – 4-12-6 - $4,518.00

Again just a $144 Tri - Box w/both Keys!

Nitro
08-03-2017, 07:06 PM
Results for 9 Races posted @ Saratoga :

(3) Key Winners ( 5 others in the mix)
(5) Exactas
(5) Triples
(0) Supers

Tote analysis provided some excellent results from today’s card !

lamboguy
08-03-2017, 07:20 PM
Results:

Race # 9 = 4-12-6-2 - WIN – EX -TRI BX :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 4 - $15.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 4-12 - $338.50
$2.00 TRIPLE – 4-12-6 - $4,518.00

Again just a $144 Tri - Box w/both Keys! that one was worth the price of admission

Nitro
08-03-2017, 09:20 PM
If you can’t relate to picking and playing more than 1 entry in a race, please ignore this post!
(You’re not going to hit a Super, Triple or even an Exacta with a Single pick).

In case anyone is interested the following is the post that was deleted from the “ How do you handicap grass races? “ thread. As accused, I had no intention of taking it “Off Topic”. I just wanted express my method for attacking Turf races from a perspective – other than handicapping.

Sorry I can’t offer any handicapping advice for the Turf races at SARATOGA. Because the only method I use isn’t concerned with whether it’s on the grass or on the dirt. It also doesn’t rely on any form of past performance data. It simply relies on the only component that drives the entire game: Money and the passion to be successful.

The Tote Analysis provides 3 betting Intervals for locating the Contenders.

The visual results illustrate Betting Patterns that vary from track to track and pool size to pool size. At the larger tracks the betting intervals used are usually 15, 8, and 5 minutes to post. At each of these betting intervals the actual analysis provides a PAR value for the combined betting from all of the available pools on all the entries. At the same time a single value is established for each Entry. Then it simply requires comparing the total PAR value with each Entry value at each of the Betting intervals. Then it’s just a matter of choosing those 4 or 5 entries closest to PAR

When viewing all of this information together, the betting patterns in most cases become very obvious because there's a definite relationship between the PAR value and the individual Entry values. That relationship and whether or not it changes during the betting cycle becomes the primary focus of each race. From there I’m able to determine at least 2 Key entries along with 2 or 3 others of betting interest.

In lieu of trying to describe the analysis in greater detail I’ve attached a file showing 2 Turf races from Mon 7/31 at Saratoga. (Sometimes the contenders just jump off right off the page).
I updated the file attachment to cover the selections for the 2 Turf races I posted from today’s card at Saratoga: Race 7 & 9

lamboguy
08-04-2017, 07:47 AM
to give Nitro some credit here, he has a system to pick horses that is mechanical and does not rely on varied opinion's.

i understand how he makes his selections, i just don't know when he pulls the trigger.


its all right in front of you in black and white. i cannot tell if his system wins or loses, but i do know its a better way of picking than what most people are using to pick their horses to play.

he might have a fine tuning deal to eliminate potential un profitable plays.

if i am wrong on my assumptions i am sure that Nitro will let me know.

Dahoss9698
08-04-2017, 08:01 AM
to give Nitro some credit here, he has a system to pick horses that is mechanical and does not rely on varied opinion's.

i understand how he makes his selections, i just don't know when he pulls the trigger.


its all right in front of you in black and white. i cannot tell if his system wins or loses, but i do know its a better way of picking than what most people are using to pick their horses to play.

he might have a fine tuning deal to eliminate potential un profitable plays.

if i am wrong on my assumptions i am sure that Nitro will let me know.

There's a 0.0% chance his "method" produces positive results from a betting perspective. There's a reason he is so coy when it comes to if he played it and why he is so vague. He's full of it.

Anyone here can list 5 contenders per race based on whatever method we use and then claim victory after each race. The difference is most people would be too embarrassed to because of how ridiculous it is.

Nitro
08-04-2017, 04:03 PM
to give Nitro some credit here, he has a system to pick horses that is mechanical and does not rely on varied opinion's.

i understand how he makes his selections, i just don't know when he pulls the trigger.


its all right in front of you in black and white. i cannot tell if his system wins or loses, but i do know its a better way of picking than what most people are using to pick their horses to play.

he might have a fine tuning deal to eliminate potential un profitable plays.

if i am wrong on my assumptions i am sure that Nitro will let me know.

Hey there Lamboguy! Credit is nice but that and token will get me on the Subway in NY.

I guess you could refer to the tote analysis as sort of an automated mechanical type of system. It certainly works very well, and when the Value of the contenders is high enough is usually a GO as far as betting them. I certainly don’t play every race or make every type of Vertical play.

You’re also correct about it being a superior method than any form of handicapping. I believe it’s because ALL of the output used is based on Objective information. Other than observing and picking out the obvious contenders there is no Subjective interpretation involved. Determining the 2 best Keys can be challenging at times, but that comes with practical experience.

What I really get a kick out of is the negative feedback from some who fail to recognize that all we’re doing here is SHARING information. Whether posting 1 or 5 selections what difference does it make? This is not betting forum! What’s also kind of funny is that these same individuals can’t even select a single winner, let alone an Exacta, Tri, or Super. I simply post the potential results of the selections I shown had any of those bets been made. (Some seem to think I’m making every bet possible – LOL)

CincyHorseplayer
08-04-2017, 06:15 PM
I think one thing that is overlooked is precisely how Nitro bets. I have adapted much of his base play into my play, albeit we had a relatively similar betting style to begin with. Anyhow the key is that your hit rate goes up precipitously and therefore it makes it easier to pump more money through the windows over time. It freezes much betting apprehension you might have(I do). It's a system based on basic proficiency and it works IMO. Try just the betting aspect of it.

Dahoss9698
08-05-2017, 07:06 AM
Hey there Lamboguy! Credit is nice but that and token will get me on the Subway in NY.

I guess you could refer to the tote analysis as sort of an automated mechanical type of system. It certainly works very well, and when the Value of the contenders is high enough is usually a GO as far as betting them. I certainly don’t play every race or make every type of Vertical play.

You’re also correct about it being a superior method than any form of handicapping. I believe it’s because ALL of the output used is based on Objective information. Other than observing and picking out the obvious contenders there is no Subjective interpretation involved. Determining the 2 best Keys can be challenging at times, but that comes with practical experience.

What I really get a kick out of is the negative feedback from some who fail to recognize that all we’re doing here is SHARING information. Whether posting 1 or 5 selections what difference does it make? This is not betting forum! What’s also kind of funny is that these same individuals can’t even select a single winner, let alone an Exacta, Tri, or Super. I simply post the potential results of the selections I shown had any of those bets been made. (Some seem to think I’m making every bet possible – LOL)

Honestly I'm sure everyone realizes you don't bet at all. No one who's actually betting money would post 5 (or more) horses per race and then show the results of these 5 (or more) selections for every race.

To claim "all of that one," while not giving the slightest hint of when you do pull the trigger? How is anyone to know when you decide to bet? You take credit anytime it "hits."

It's very disingenuous. Then again, that's kind of your theme here.

Dahoss9698
08-05-2017, 07:22 AM
I think one thing that is overlooked is precisely how Nitro bets. I have adapted much of his base play into my play, albeit we had a relatively similar betting style to begin with. Anyhow the key is that your hit rate goes up precipitously and therefore it makes it easier to pump more money through the windows over time. It freezes much betting apprehension you might have(I do). It's a system based on basic proficiency and it works IMO. Try just the betting aspect of it.

Precise??? :lol::lol::lol: How would anyone know precisely how he bets? He goes out of his way to be as vague as possible. That's the only way to keep up his charade. To be as ambiguous and nebulous as possible.

If you post picks every race...then post the results every race as if you're Playing them...but then say you aren't betting every race....how is anyone to know? What does one get out of posting 5 picks a race, while claiming win if any of them happen to come in? Who couldn't pick a lot of exactas picking half the field most races?

Look, a lot of people claim a lot of ridiculous things around here. At least the ones who do have the decency to redboard or claim their genius after the races, so as to not show their stripes. If indeed this is a winning method, why the secrecy? If you're going to take the time to post...why go out of your way to be so cryptic about what you're actually doing? Unless you're totally full of it....which is a 1/9 favorite right now.