police shooting death - black Somali imigrant

[davew]

and white Australian - I wonder if the officer will be charged - they are not talking

[woodtoo]

Is this the Minnesota police shooting?

[barahona44]

Is this the Minnesota police shooting?

Unless there was another recent case of a Somali immigrant police officer shooting a white Australian , I would have to assume so.

Both officers body cams and the police video camera were turned off.The woman killed was the one who called the police reporting a possible sexual assault going on near her location.Really odd case.

[woodtoo]

I assumed she was a white American, not Australian. Has the cop talked yet or is he pleading the fifth?

[barahona44]

I assumed she was a white American, not Australian. Has the cop talked yet or is he pleading the fifth?

Well, you plead the fifth when you are under oath. The officer offered his condolences to the family, but I think they're still investigating and limiting what's being released.Also, I made an error in my last post.The patrol car camera was on but didn't capture the shooting.

[Clocker]

I assumed she was a white American, not Australian. Has the cop talked yet or is he pleading the fifth?

She is identified as a white Australian. News stories I have seen do not say anything about her immigration status, but do say that she was engaged to an American living in Minneapolis.

The story is full of oddities and questions. The woman called 911 about something suspicious. When the police car pulled up, she was outside waiting and walked toward the car on the driver's wearing pajamas. By some reports, she had already started talking to the driver. The officer sitting in the passenger seat fired through the open driver's window, shooting one or more times in front of his partner.

Noor, the shooter, was a Somali immigrant as a youngster and had 21 months on the force. His partner had one year experience. That pairing strikes me as highly questionable policy, but those here with actual experience can provide more info. The partner has been interviewed by the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension but the shooter under advice of counsel has declined to be interviewed.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-noor-justine-damond-ruszczyk-minneapolis-police-officer-somali-mohammed/ (http://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-noor-justine-damond-ruszczyk-minneapolis-police-officer-somali-mohammed/)

[chadk66]

This guy would have never been hired except for the "diversity" policy this police dept. adopted.

[tucker6]

She is identified as a white Australian. News stories I have seen do not say anything about her immigration status, but do say that she was engaged to an American living in Minneapolis.

The story is full of oddities and questions. The woman called 911 about something suspicious. When the police car pulled up, she was outside waiting and walked toward the car on the driver's wearing pajamas. By some reports, she had already started talking to the driver. The officer sitting in the passenger seat fired through the open driver's window, shooting one or more times in front of his partner.

Noor, the shooter, was a Somali immigrant as a youngster and had 21 months on the force. His partner had one year experience. That pairing strikes me as highly questionable policy, but those here with actual experience can provide more info. The partner has been interviewed by the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension but the shooter under advice of counsel has declined to be interviewed.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-noor-justine-damond-ruszczyk-minneapolis-police-officer-somali-mohammed/ (http://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-noor-justine-damond-ruszczyk-minneapolis-police-officer-somali-mohammed/)

The other officer (driver) in his statement said that they came onto the scene with lights out because they feared an ambush, even though other police people have stated that the 911 call didn't warrant any cause for ambush concerns nor lights out. The driver also has stated that Noor had his gun in his lap as they entered the alley. He goes on to say that the victim approached his window immediately after a loud bang was heard, but other witnesses say she was already talking to the driver when the loud bang occurred and she was shot. Over all, it is apparent that:

1. neither of these guys is fit to be an officer.
2. The left wing vendetta against cops is causing cops to be trigger happy.
3. Noor is going to prison. He shot an unarmed person from a car through another officer. How can an officer draw his weapon before even getting to the scene.
4. The driver is trying to mitigate the damage by claiming that the victim approached the door immediately after a loud bang, but it is just as likely that Noor got spooked while she was speaking to the driver.
5. We have a long way to go with getting police officers to properly use cameras and have them on at all times. They need to automate the use and take it out of the officers' hands.

A real bad look for Minneapolis police.

[Clocker]

A real bad look for Minneapolis police.

Looks like the city is going to wash its hands of the mess and throw the cop under the bus.

The chief of police is just back from vacation. There has apparently been little internal investigation to date (the guy has refused to talk to internal affairs). Based on the information released to date by the state investigators (the guy has refused to talk to them also), the chief said:

“Based on the publicly released information from the BCA, this should not have happened,” Harteau said, referring to a preliminary investigative report released earlier in the week. “On our squad cars, you will find the words ‘To protect with courage and serve with compassion.’ This did not happen.

“I believe the actions in question go against who we are as a department, how we train and the expectations we have for our officers. These were the actions and judgments of one individual,” she said.
http://www.startribune.com/justine-damond-didnt-have-to-die-says-minneapolis-police-chief-janee-harteau-justine-ruszczyk/435651393/

[tucker6]

Yeah, Noor is being hung out to dry. Rightfully so imo. I think having two new officers together is also a bad idea. The driver is just as bad as Noor. He had a responsibility to warn Noor to put his gun away. He should have had lights on, and when Noor got fidgety about an ambush, should have tried to buck him up.

I still can't believe that any officer would fire through his partner from a car seat. That's insane. Almost like the guy has PTSD or something.

[barahona44]

The other officer (driver) in his statement said that they came onto the scene with lights out because they feared an ambush, even though other police people have stated that the 911 call didn't warrant any cause for ambush concerns nor lights out. The driver also has stated that Noor had his gun in his lap as they entered the alley. He goes on to say that the victim approached his window immediately after a loud bang was heard, but other witnesses say she was already talking to the driver when the loud bang occurred and she was shot. Over all, it is apparent that:

1. neither of these guys is fit to be an officer.
2. The left wing vendetta against cops is causing cops to be trigger happy.
3. Noor is going to prison. He shot an unarmed person from a car through another officer. How can an officer draw his weapon before even getting to the scene.
4. The driver is trying to mitigate the damage by claiming that the victim approached the door immediately after a loud bang, but it is just as likely that Noor got spooked while she was speaking to the driver.
5. We have a long way to go with getting police officers to properly use cameras and have them on at all times. They need to automate the use and take it out of the officers' hands.

A real bad look for Minneapolis police.

I believe there are some concerns from people in body cameras on law enforcement.

https://www.cato.org/blog/police-body-cameras-raise-privacy-issues-cops-public

BTW, Cato is a libertarian organization, so you have to keep in mind their ideas about government and privacy.

[tucker6]

I believe there are some concerns from people in body cameras on law enforcement.

https://www.cato.org/blog/police-body-cameras-raise-privacy-issues-cops-public

BTW, Cato is a libertarian organization, so you have to keep in mind their ideas about government and privacy.

I can appreciate concerns, but then make body cameras non-public records for all cases where no crime is being committed. No one asks for records from intersection cameras, so why do people need to ask for records for body cameras. Make them off limits except for when claims on made for specific issues.

[Jeff P]

Minneapolis police chief resigns following fatal shooting of Australian woman:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/21/minneapolis-police-chief-resigns-following-fatal-shooting-australian-woman.html

The Minneapolis police chief resigned on Friday in the wake of the fatal shooting of an Australian woman by a police officer on July 15.

Chief Janee Harteau resigned a day after making her initial remarks on the death of 40-year-old Justine Damond.

Harteau quit her position at the request of Mayor Betsy Hodges, according to a statement from the city.



-jp

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[Clocker]

Minneapolis police chief resigns following fatal shooting of Australian woman:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/21/minneapolis-police-chief-resigns-following-fatal-shooting-australian-woman.html

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To jump to conclusions, it looks like she may have acted too quickly and politically incorrectly in assigning blame to the officer that actually did the shooting. Somalis are a double-secret protected species in Minneapolis.

I have relatives in the Twin Cities, and know from personal experience that Minneapolis rivals San Francisco as the moonbat capital of the country. On top of that, Somalis are a special flavor of minority there, as the city is #1 in the nation in accepting Somali refugees. Mayor Betsy Hodges, who fired the chief, gave her State of the City speech this year at a mosque in the city. The chief's statement of individual responsibility doesn't fly in a snowflake city like that.

[boxcar]

To jump to conclusions, it looks like she may have acted too quickly and politically incorrectly in assigning blame to the officer that actually did the shooting. Somalis are a double-secret protected species in Minneapolis.

I have relatives in the Twin Cities, and know from personal experience that Minneapolis rivals San Francisco as the moonbat capital of the country. On top of that, Somalis are a special flavor of minority there, as the city is #1 in the nation in accepting Somali refugees. Mayor Betsy Hodges, who fired the chief, gave her State of the City speech this year at a mosque in the city. The chief's statement of individual responsibility doesn't fly in a snowflake city like that.

This "protected species" may never see the inside of a courtroom, let alone do jail time for murder.

[Clocker]

This "protected species" may never see the inside of a courtroom, let alone do jail time for murder.

Get the popcorn ready.

The Minneapolis Chief of Police, now formerly chief apparently due to political insensitivity regarding especially favored minorities, is an openly gay woman. Culture wars to ensue.

I love cheap drama.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[davew]

Get the popcorn ready.

The Minneapolis Chief of Police, now formerly chief apparently due to political insensitivity regarding especially favored minorities, is an openly gay woman. Culture wars to ensue.

I love cheap drama.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

then you will love this - mayor runs away when her press conference describing resignation is disrupted by protestors....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCioGFNCFY8

[AltonKelsey]

From 5/1/17

http://observer.com/2017/05/minneapolis-mayor-betsy-hodges/

[woodtoo]

The family has hired Bob (Big money)Bennett.
Expecting 5 million payout.

[Fager Fan]

I was proud of the people who were at this press conference last night. They showed that this isn't a black or white matter, and were furious when it's a white victim and black police officer. They were loud but never violent. No shouts or chants advocating violence or diving into the gutter.

The ACLU, BLM, and others should take note.

[boxcar]

I wonder what the mayor has done with the other cop who witnessed the shooting? Is he now persona non grata?

[Fager Fan]

This one is more distressing than most. You actually call the police because you think/hear a crime taking place, run out to meet them in your PJs, and somehow get shot and killed? On top of it all, it was a woman (who are less threatening both physically and due to the fairer sex rarely being violent, particularly to the point of shoot or be shot). So now we can't even feel safe to call the police for help? This is a bad one.

[woodtoo]

The shooter, Noor is refusing to cooperate and is walking free :eek:
It must be too PC to arrest him for murder, they are giving him the chance to flee back to Somalia. He should be under house arrest at least.

[johnhannibalsmith]

...they are giving him the chance to flee back to Somalia...

The prisons here must really be tough after all.

[woodtoo]

The Muslim shooter Noor's lawyer is asking for an independent autopsy to see if the drug Ambien was in the victims system.
So in Al Franken's great State of Minnesota shooting someone on Ambien is somehow legal.? :bang:

The Mayor is also asking all Muslims to report any hate crimes to the police. :eek:

[Clocker]

The Mayor is also asking all Muslims to report any hate crimes to the police. :eek:

Does that include people who hate the mayor? :rant:

[FantasticDan]

The Muslim shooter Noor's lawyer is asking for an independent autopsy to see if the drug Ambien was in the victims system.
He was a cop on the job, but interesting that you went with "Muslim shooter" as your description despite the fact that his religion has nothing to do with anything :rolleyes:

[MONEY]

He was a cop on the job, but interesting that you went with "Muslim shooter" as your description despite the fact that his religion has nothing to do with anything :rolleyes:
At this point none of us have any idea whether or not the cops religious beliefs had anything to do with the shooting.

[Tom]

He was a cop on the job, but interesting that you went with "Muslim shooter" as your description despite the fact that his religion has nothing to do with anything :rolleyes:

He should have said "light skinned" middle easterner? :rolleyes:

[FantasticDan]

At this point none of us have any idea whether or not the cops religious beliefs had anything to do with the shooting.Right, cuz if the cop was white and his name was Goldstein, he would be the "Jew shooter" and we'd all be wondering if his religious beliefs had something to do with what happened :ThmbUp: :rolleyes:

[MONEY]

Right, cuz if the cop was white and his name was Goldstein, he would be the "Jew shooter" and we'd all be wondering if his religious beliefs had something to do with what happened :ThmbUp: :rolleyes:
Jews or people with Jewish sounding surnames in the U.S.A. have no history of shooting people for being infidels.

[FantasticDan]

Jews or people with Jewish sounding surnames in the U.S.A. have no history of shooting people for being infidels.But black cops of Somali descent sure do! :pound:

[MONEY]

But black cops of Somali descent sure do! :pound:
No, but Muslims do.:(

[OntheRail]

He was a cop on the job, but interesting that you went with "Muslim shooter" as your description despite the fact that his religion has nothing to do with anything :rolleyes:

Well it's a widely know fact how Muslim men treat women.

I hope AG Session steps in and charges him... via the Holder Act. And maybe review the entire Department while they are at it.

The Somali cops action are not defensible... his ass should be in a cell waiting trial for murder. He is a proven threat to Society at Large.

[FantasticDan]

The Somali cops action are not defensible... his ass should be in a cell waiting trial for murder. He is a proven threat to Society at Large.I'm not making any defense for his actions, just saying that I don't think his religion or heritage had anything to do with it.

[Clocker]

Observations from Noor's neighbor:

Forklift driver Chris Miller, 49, has lived next door for the past two years and said he wasn’t surprised to learn Noor was the policeman making international headlines for firing on Ms Damond after she called 911 about what she thought was a sexual assault in the alley behind her house.

“He is extremely nervous ... he is a little jumpy ... he doesn’t really respect women, the least thing you say to him can set him off,” Mr Miller said.

“When they say a policeman shot an Australian lady I thought uh, oh but then when they said who it was I was like, ‘OK.’”
He said Noor, who has refused to explain to investigators what led him to shoot dead bride-to-be Damond, was a strict and ill-tempered presence in the townhouse block, where children play together in a playground in a small park between the units.

“He got into it with the kids, they were outside playing and something got stuck in a tree and he came out and he just started yelling at the kids because they were out here playing,” Mr Miller said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/neighbour-of-justine-damonds-killer-gives-shocking-new-insight-into-his-behaviour/news-story/34eb2c08676af98afc376d83aaff31dd (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/neighbour-of-justine-damonds-killer-gives-shocking-new-insight-into-his-behaviour/news-story/34eb2c08676af98afc376d83aaff31dd)

[chadk66]

only thing his race had anything to do with is getting him hired without the needed training/education.

[woodtoo]

I'm not making any defense for his actions, just saying that I don't think his religion or heritage had anything to do with it.

The story I read this morning described him as Muslim maybe I should have left it out so as not to offend lily-white snowflakes like Dan.
By the way he didn't kill her the gu...er the bullet did, disarm all police ASAP.

[JustRalph]

Money 👍👍👍

Sometimes you just gotta say it :lol:

[acorn54]

imo, we have a silent civil war in this country. those that want diversity and inclusiveness and those that want to have, what made america great, a meritocracy. this country has to decide, it can have diversity and inclusiveness=mediocrity or it can go back to having a meritocracy=excellence, but it can't have both.

[davew]

police easily startled signs appearing

http://nypost.com/2017/07/24/fake-street-signs-warn-of-easily-startled-twin-cities-cops/

[incoming]

imo, we have a silent civil war in this country. those that want diversity and inclusiveness and those that want to have, what made america great, a meritocracy. this country has to decide, it can have diversity and inclusiveness=mediocrity or it can go back to having a meritocracy=excellence, but it can't have both.

I think your description fits the current environment in America perfectly. Obama set the tone for the New Democrat Party and they are now far removed from the mainstream. Without a moral compass their "religious believes" have no boundaries. Even to the point of total destruction of the moral fiber of the whole nation.:popcorn::popcorn:

[Inner Dirt]

Well it's a widely know fact how Muslim men treat women.

I hope AG Session steps in and charges him... via the Holder Act. And maybe review the entire Department while they are at it.

The Somali cops action are not defensible... his ass should be in a cell waiting trial for murder. He is a proven threat to Society at Large.


It is amazing how the left gets all bent when they feel a Muslim is labeled or discriminated against. They don't say a bad word about their practiced discrimination against women or gays. Would someone care to explain?
Don't say they get a pass because it is a religious belief as you don't give Christians a pass on their views on homosexuality.

[Clocker]

A member of the Minnesota state legislature who is running for mayor of Minneapolis has the answer to police shootings: don't let the police carry side arms.

Oh, did I mention that he is a Democrat?

http://www.fox9.com/news/270151845-story (http://www.fox9.com/news/270151845-story)

[Inner Dirt]

A member of the Minnesota state legislature who is running for mayor of Minneapolis has the answer to police shootings: don't let the police carry side arms.

Oh, did I mention that he is a Democrat?

http://www.fox9.com/news/270151845-story (http://www.fox9.com/news/270151845-story)

Waiting for out resident democratic party spin doctor to explain why this Democrat isn't as stupid as a box of rocks.

[woodtoo]

A member of the Minnesota state legislature who is running for mayor of Minneapolis has the answer to police shootings: don't let the police carry side arms.

Oh, did I mention that he is a Democrat?

http://www.fox9.com/news/270151845-story (http://www.fox9.com/news/270151845-story)

I mentioned this......as a joke. I am not surprised at all though. :(

[barahona44]

A member of the Minnesota state legislature who is running for mayor of Minneapolis has the answer to police shootings: don't let the police carry side arms.

[/URL]

Robin Williams on British police (who don't carry guns) chasing a suspect.

"Stop in the name of the law or you'll force me to say stop in the name of the law again".

[davew]

The police office is being charge with murder and manslaughter.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-officer-shot-killed-justine-200539913.html

[davew]

Minneapolis to pay family $18 million ... police officer guilty of murder


https://www.yahoo.com/news/minneapolis-pay-police-shooting-victims-family-20-million-202642203.html

[TJDave]

Put Lucas Davenport on the case.

[davew]

3rd degree murder conviction tossed and will be free next summer

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/10/21/judge-sentence-noor-in-killing-of-justine-ruszczyk



I am surprised I did not see more about this black/white policeman shooting unarmed person with the conviction being overturned

[JustRalph]

He fired across the inside of the vehicle, across his partner?

He would not have made it to trial if I was his partner. They would be putting a brown stain on trial……after I stomped his ass

[Inner Dirt]

He fired across the inside of the vehicle, across his partner?

He would not have made it to trial if I was his partner. They would be putting a brown stain on trial……after I stomped his ass


My ears are ringing just thinking of that, plus the stupidity of it.

[PaceAdvantage]

The first thing every Somali immigrant is taught upon landing in Minneapolis is to fear every white "Karen" from Australia...he had every reason to fire his gun...

[davew]

The first thing every Somali immigrant is taught upon landing in Minneapolis is to fear every white "Karen" from Australia...he had every reason to fire his gun...

I was in a taxi yesterday with an immigrant from Ethiopia driver and we were talking about Minneapolis problems. He said many people from Africa would shoot a gun at a sudden noise or something that scared them (did he think he saw a ghost?). He said that officer was still in jail, so I had to check the current status.