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maddog42
07-01-2017, 10:35 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19778834/paul-george-traded-indiana-pacers-oklahoma-city-thunder

barahona44
07-01-2017, 11:55 PM
Supposedly the Celtics were offering three (non lottery) 1st round draft picks, Jae Crowder (who has a team friendly deal through 2020) and Avery Bradley for George.Bit of a head scratcher as to why the Pacers took the OKC deal.Oladipo is a good player with an expensive contract:if Sabonis lives up to his projections that will make the deal a little more palatable but it's still a big if.

ElKabong
07-02-2017, 12:49 AM
.Bit of a head scratcher as to why the Pacers took the OKC deal..

Supposedly to keep him out of the Eastern conf

cj
07-02-2017, 01:08 AM
They also like Oladipo because he played at Indiana. I think that is pretty silly on the pro level, but that is what is being said.

barahona44
07-02-2017, 10:11 AM
Supposedly to keep him out of the Eastern conf

That's what I figured but are the Pacers even going to make the playoffs? The only way that would be a concern would be if George signed a long term deal with the Celtics which could happen.The Celtics were a # 1 seed with a # 1 overall draft choice and enough cap space to hand out a max contract plus they have multiple first round picks over the next few years.That's a pretty rare alignment of the NBA planets.Boston traded Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett to the Nets, a team in their own division.And got draft picks 4 or 5 years down the road as Danny Ainge knew the Celtics needed a rebuild and he figured any Nets success would be short lived given the ages of their stars,although I think even he was surprised at how quickly they fell apart. The point being, sometimes you gotta roll the dice and go against the conventional wisdom.

Robert Fischer
07-02-2017, 11:25 AM
He shoots a bit too many 'long-twos', but he's been playing at a high enough level, that he's been able to overcome that.

Last year he took 6.6 3s and hit 39%, and was above 50% for his 2s for the first time in a full season.
He had flashes of brilliance.

cj
09-23-2017, 03:19 PM
Add Carmelo Anthony to the list. No idea how this will work out, but giving up Kanter and McDermott is pretty irrelevant, so nothing to lose taking a shot.

Robert Fischer
09-23-2017, 03:47 PM
wow!

Hope some of Westbrook's intensity rubs off on these two guys. Should be entertaining.

Jess Hawsen Arown
09-24-2017, 09:58 AM
Add Carmelo Anthony to the list. No idea how this will work out, but giving up Kanter and McDermott is pretty irrelevant, so nothing to lose taking a shot.

From the Knicks perspective:

I definitely like Kanter, but the Knicks will be once again -- in the fight for the number one draft pick. I mean who pays so much money to buy tickets at MSG?

reckless
09-24-2017, 06:16 PM
From the Knicks perspective:

I definitely like Kanter, but the Knicks will be once again -- in the fight for the number one draft pick. I mean who pays so much money to buy tickets at MSG?

Spike Lee

Jess Hawsen Arown
09-24-2017, 06:56 PM
Spike Lee

+the other 20,788 who make it a sellout every game. For this upcoming season, season tickets START at $13,800

barahona44
09-24-2017, 10:32 PM
+the other 20,788 who make it a sellout every game. For this upcoming season, season tickets START at $13,800

I think it's safe to say that half those season ticket holders are corporate/ millionaire types out to impress their clients/ friends.Chump change to them.

Valuist
09-25-2017, 04:38 PM
I will be betting OKC under for total season wins. This is a clear case of subtraction by addition.

Robert Fischer
09-25-2017, 05:09 PM
I think it's safe to say that half those season ticket holders are corporate/ millionaire types out to impress their clients/ friends.Chump change to them.

Forbes has the Knicks estimated at the highest NBA franchise ~3.3B , for whatever that's worth.

The Knicks make little effort to develop, or even to buy a high quality on-court basketball product.

The effort that they do make involves media and marketing (such as using Phil Jackson and Melo in their media effort).

The current Knicks ownership almost seems to derive pleasure from flaunting the Knicks great market position, and the fact that they don't rely on on-court quality to generate revenue value.

cj
09-25-2017, 10:29 PM
I will be betting OKC under for total season wins. This is a clear case of subtraction by addition.

They got rid of two guys that were going to play that can't guard a statue in exchange for a guy who is a perfect 4 in today's NBA. Melo has one more shot at a good contract and he won't get it by playing selfish this year.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2017, 10:55 PM
They got rid of two guys that were going to play that can't guard a statue in exchange for a guy who is a perfect 4 in today's NBA. Melo has one more shot at a good contract and he won't get it by playing selfish this year.

Adding Melo to the Thunder's mix will lead to.....

https://youtu.be/4gazNwzC4H0

barahona44
09-26-2017, 10:22 AM
Now if the rules were changed to allow 2 balls at a time during the game, everyone would be happy.

Maybe.

Valuist
09-27-2017, 02:58 PM
They got rid of two guys that were going to play that can't guard a statue in exchange for a guy who is a perfect 4 in today's NBA. Melo has one more shot at a good contract and he won't get it by playing selfish this year.

Maybe he will change. I doubt it. He's selfish (and invisible defensively) until proven otherwise. George will add value to the team; Melo won't.

cj
09-27-2017, 07:36 PM
Maybe he will change. I doubt it. He's selfish (and invisible defensively) until proven otherwise. George will add value to the team; Melo won't.

You're probably right. I'm hoping Olympic Melo shows up, not Knicks Melo. In his defense he's never been surrounded by much of a team in the NBA.

cj
09-29-2017, 05:34 PM
Russ signs five year extension...Mr. OKC.

barahona44
09-30-2017, 12:07 AM
Russ signs five year extension...Mr. OKC.

Reported to be for 205 million,largest guaranteed contract in NBA history.Signed it on Kevin Durant's 29th birthday to boot!

Valuist
01-30-2018, 01:42 PM
Dave Malinsky always has great insights in the world of sports wagering. You won't see an article like this on Andre Roberson at ESPN.com

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/point-blank-david-malinsky/3453382-pb-1-30-thunder-becomes-our-dinner-without-andre.html

thaskalos
01-30-2018, 02:10 PM
Dave Malinsky always has great insights in the world of sports wagering. You won't see an article like this on Andre Roberson at ESPN.com

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/point-blank-david-malinsky/3453382-pb-1-30-thunder-becomes-our-dinner-without-andre.html

I found the above article a bit confusing...does it suggest that I shouldn't lay the 3 points in the Thunder/Wizards game tonight? Because this was my best bet of the night. :cool:

And, IMO...too much emphasis is placed on the Brady/Philly-D matchup...while the Foles/N.E-D matchup has been somewhat ignored. After tearing-up the Minnesota defense...what proof is there to suggest that the Patriot defense can match up against the Foles-led Eagles offense?

Valuist
01-30-2018, 02:14 PM
I found the above article a bit confusing...does it suggest that I shouldn't lay the 3 points in the Thunder/Wizards game tonight? Because this was my best bet of the night. :cool:

And, IMO...too much emphasis is placed on the Brady/Philly-D matchup...while the Foles/N.E-D matchup has been somewhat ignored. After tearing-up the Minnesota defense...what proof is there to suggest that the Patriot defense can match up against the Foles-led Eagles offense?

I think the main point of the article was this will negatively impact OKC in the post-season, and it will probably impact their season win total. A guy like Roberson is under the radar of the MSM, but is still an important piece to OKC.

I agree with you re: Foles vs the NE defense.

Robert Fischer
01-30-2018, 02:49 PM
Dave Malinsky always has great insights in the world of sports wagering. You won't see an article like this on Andre Roberson at ESPN.com

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/point-blank-david-malinsky/3453382-pb-1-30-thunder-becomes-our-dinner-without-andre.html

Looks like excellent analysis. I particularly like how he ran stats for when the other 4 starters were on the floor.
Will be interesting to see if they keep the same rotations and simply substitute next man up, or shuffle the deck.


And, IMO...too much emphasis is placed on the Brady/Philly-D matchup...while the Foles/N.E-D matchup has been somewhat ignored. After tearing-up the Minnesota defense...what proof is there to suggest that the Patriot defense can match up against the Foles-led Eagles offense?
I tuned in late, and saw a celebratory Eagles offense continuing to rack up points and yards against a 'beaten' Vikings defense.

I've seen guys like Foles or Brees look invincible while throwing for 350yds and 75% vs one team, and then come down to earth vs. another team.

cj
01-30-2018, 05:52 PM
I found the above article a bit confusing...does it suggest that I shouldn't lay the 3 points in the Thunder/Wizards game tonight? Because this was my best bet of the night. :cool:



Wall is out if you didn't know.

Roberson is fabulous on defense. Most that follow the sport closely are aware of him. What has changed is that on offense he was no longer standing in the corner on offense where he can't shoot. He was moving, cutting the basket, back cutting for alley oops, and hitting the boards. He was still a bit of a liability on offense (especially because he is awful at FTs) but nowhere near as bad as he had been in past years. His pluses on defense far outweighed the minuses on offense. It is a big loss for sure, especially against the top teams where his skill set was most effective, guarding star players.

I do think Presti will make some type of move soon to bolster the defense. Plugging in a rookie like Ferguson, promising as he may be, isn't going to cut it in the playoffs.

thaskalos
01-30-2018, 09:32 PM
I've seen guys like Foles or Brees look invincible while throwing for 350yds and 75% vs one team, and then come down to earth vs. another team.

IMO...Brady is the one who will "come down to earth" this Sunday.

cj
02-14-2018, 12:56 AM
Got to fill in for the usher tonight for about 5 minutes, dream come true!

jocko699
02-14-2018, 01:03 AM
Got to fill in for the usher tonight for about 5 minutes, dream come true!

Let me know when you fill in for the Miller Lite vendor. I will be there:headbanger: