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showonly
06-18-2017, 07:26 PM
This guy is the most ridicules person to have on a show trying to promote racing and wagering. He knows nothing. Thinks he is funny and is not.Between he and Mike JHoyce I don't know who is more worthless. Todays topics include Mike Joyces bad teeth, Tom Cassidys chivalry with his wife when she was out on a date with TOM. TODD NOT TO BE OUT MORONED has discussed people who take pictures of themselves with different looks so the people can reference the contrasting look in the future and then to finish it off Paul Ludaca's childhood unibrow. The nice thing is that no time for this nonsense is sacred. It is mostly discussed as horses are entering the starting gate. TVG please clean house. Entertainment has it's place on TVG please hire some entertainers. Hoover is getting just as bad. We have know heard for the millionth time that he is one of the multi millions of people alive who played college basketball. Good Lord give us a break.

oughtoh
06-18-2017, 07:38 PM
Do what I do when I watch TVG, turn the sound off. Have been watching the videos on a different site instead of watching TVG.

showonly
06-18-2017, 07:58 PM
Do what I do when I watch TVG, turn the sound off. Have been watching the videos on a different site instead of watching TVG.


I make no contention that TVG offers no relevant information to the professional bettor. If the nonsense offered some benefit to TVG I would understand it but it is rambling nonsense that assumes they are the focal point of the show.

thaskalos
06-18-2017, 08:09 PM
I make no contention that TVG offers no relevant information to the professional bettor. If the nonsense offered some benefit to TVG I would understand it but it is rambling nonsense that assumes they are the focal point of the show.

What "relevant information" do you suppose TVG offers to the professional bettor?

ronsmac
06-18-2017, 08:14 PM
This guy is the most ridicules person to have on a show trying to promote racing and wagering. He knows nothing. Thinks he is funny and is not.Between he and Mike JHoyce I don't know who is more worthless. Todays topics include Mike Joyces bad teeth, Tom Cassidys chivalry with his wife when she was out on a date with TOM. TODD NOT TO BE OUT MORONED has discussed people who take pictures of themselves with different looks so the people can reference the contrasting look in the future and then to finish it off Paul Ludaca's childhood unibrow. The nice thing is that no time for this nonsense is sacred. It is mostly discussed as horses are entering the starting gate. TVG please clean house. Entertainment has it's place on TVG please hire some entertainers. Hoover is getting just as bad. We have know heard for the millionth time that he is one of the multi millions of people alive who played college basketball. Good Lord give us a break.
I don't mind the antics and usually find them mildly entertaining, but I wish they had a cough button. The 50 times a day someone clears their throat into the mic is annoying.

showonly
06-18-2017, 08:19 PM
What "relevant information" do you suppose TVG offers to the professional bettor?


Lets "suppose" that I am a professional bettor and have found relevant information. My point of contention is that Toss Schrupp makes my accumulation of that information excruciating.

therussmeister
06-18-2017, 08:23 PM
Minnesota's three gifts to horse racing:

Todd Schrupp
Matt Carothers
Jamie Ness

You're welcome.:rolleyes:

Andy Asaro
06-18-2017, 08:33 PM
Like it or not we're stuck with TVG or we have the option of streaming in HD. Personally I'm most interested in how the horses look (visual inspection) from someone who knows.

As far as Todd goes I think he's fine. One of the reasons I think Todd and a couple others are OK is that from time to time they mention the effects of lower takeout even though the Tracks might not like it.

thaskalos
06-18-2017, 08:37 PM
TVG provides a service to a distinct portion of the racing fan population...so, it isn't a total loss as an "entertainment venue"...IMO. It allows those, who have stopped betting on this game, the opportunity to keep in contact with the sport...in a convenient and inexpensive manner. That aside...everything useful that TVG offers could be found in a much more "relevant" manner somewhere else.

I particularly like when they say that they will show us a particular race that they "owe us"...ten minutes after the race is run. :rolleyes:

HalvOnHorseracing
06-18-2017, 11:25 PM
I've gone to RTN (rtn.tv). You can set it up for multiple live tracks, and you get replays of every race, every track. Since it isn't a betting site, I believe it is available everywhere. The price is pretty reasonable too. I have no reason to watch TVG again unless my internet goes out.

BreadandButter
06-19-2017, 01:26 AM
I've gone to RTN (rtn.tv). You can set it up for multiple live tracks, and you get replays of every race, every track. Since it isn't a betting site, I believe it is available everywhere. The price is pretty reasonable too. I have no reason to watch TVG again unless my internet goes out.

Are you referring the the Internet option or the actual RTN TV satellite broadcasts? Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is the CDI tracks are not available via RTN over the Internet, and those tracks that are available can have a significant delay.

This was the case sometime ago when I inquired about switching over to the Roku Box for RTN . The missing CDI tracks and the delay were the deal breaker for me.

Additionally, my Internet often does go down at 2-3 AM for service/upgrades - which is often in the middle the the card from Sha Tin. So relying on the Internet for races could be problematic.

HalvOnHorseracing
06-19-2017, 06:29 PM
Are you referring the the Internet option or the actual RTN TV satellite broadcasts? Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is the CDI tracks are not available via RTN over the Internet, and those tracks that are available can have a significant delay.

This was the case sometime ago when I inquired about switching over to the Roku Box for RTN . The missing CDI tracks and the delay were the deal breaker for me.

Additionally, my Internet often does go down at 2-3 AM for service/upgrades - which is often in the middle the the card from Sha Tin. So relying on the Internet for races could be problematic.

Yes, the CDI tracks are absent. Since I don't bet any CDI tracks (other than the Derby), it's not a problem for me. I haven't had an issue with the delay, although RTN is about 10 seconds slower than my ADW.

I also haven't had my internet go down while I've been playing. That's just my experience.

CincyHorseplayer
06-19-2017, 11:03 PM
If you are focused on what you are doing during the betting day how does any of this even register? Sounds like some cranky BS to me!

KidCruz
06-20-2017, 04:50 AM
He's hit or miss for me but Shrupp's merciless lambasting of the "STATS Inc" sponsored notes has been pretty funny the last few weeks.

Saturday, their suggested horse was a 3/5 shot that barely held on and yesterday, incredibly, the best thing that STATS could suggest was that Peter Miller is good off the claim.

tanner12oz
06-20-2017, 05:31 AM
I dont think he's the best capper but I actually think he's a riot. Have met him a few times trackside and always a nice guy. I dont think it should be 100% serious all the time. Its the track...it sometimes is closer to a mental institution then sports venue. The kinda stupid crap that I hear on tvg is the,same stupid crap you hear at the track.

castaway01
06-20-2017, 08:00 AM
Schrupp's there to provide entertainment and humor along with occasional information about a horse race. TVG must like the way he's doing it because he's been in the same role for about 100 years through a lot of other people being let go. You've got a better chance with muting your TV than you did waiting for TVG to "clean house".

CincyHorseplayer
06-20-2017, 09:24 AM
He reminds me of gangster Joe Profaci!

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Y9RHxj8XJtizgvlykPNgogCTEs&w=147&h=299&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.7

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.F3K-T3PRVc8a0hABUChJIgEsDf&w=235&h=174&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.7

wisconsin
06-20-2017, 09:49 AM
Not everyone's cup of tea, that's all. I enjoy TVG for what it is, and I don't expect anything more. Sometimes it is too boring and other times, I enjoy the banter.

They know that most of their audience does not wager through TVG.

Andy Asaro
06-20-2017, 09:52 AM
He reminds me of gangster Joe Profaci!



https://twitter.com/racetrackandy/status/877157368831672320

Arapola
06-20-2017, 03:41 PM
He excel's as the company "shill".
"Get those wagers in".

JustRalph
06-20-2017, 04:23 PM
Icymi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRCZ0TjPvIY

NY BRED
06-20-2017, 05:40 PM
4GETABOUTDAT



just take the canoli..

lamboguy
06-20-2017, 11:38 PM
the guy that i really miss from TVG is Frank Lyons. that man lived and breathed racing and has a great sense of humor along with his top notch knowledge of the game.

whisperlunch
06-20-2017, 11:42 PM
Lamb I totally agree. Frank was good

CincyHorseplayer
06-21-2017, 08:15 AM
https://twitter.com/racetrackandy/status/877157368831672320

Nice! Did you get any replies to that? Not on twitter.

CincyHorseplayer
06-21-2017, 08:16 AM
4GETABOUTDAT



just take the canoli..

LOL!:ThmbUp:

Andy Asaro
06-21-2017, 10:15 AM
Nice! Did you get any replies to that? Not on twitter.

No and it surprises me. Maybe he took offense to it. I think it's hilarious.

olddaddy
06-21-2017, 01:35 PM
I miss Graham Cunningham when TVG was live from Royal Ascot. I put the Royal Ascot TVG coverage and they had a girl in the studio, I didnt know her, not good at all.

oughtoh
06-21-2017, 01:43 PM
She does all the foreign racing

cj
06-21-2017, 03:45 PM
I miss Graham Cunningham when TVG was live from Royal Ascot. I put the Royal Ascot TVG coverage and they had a girl in the studio, I didnt know her, not good at all.

The woman's name is Candice Hare. She is pretty new to television, but she knows the sport. What did you find not good?

olddaddy
06-21-2017, 04:20 PM
The woman's name is Candice Hare. She is pretty new to television, but she knows the sport. What did you find not good?

She was basically telling all what anyone could see in the international form, which isnt much. I remember Graham Cunningham and even Simon Bray telling the audience about european trainers, jockey/trainer combos, the different courses and ground conditions that are favorable to specific horses. Its very difficult to figure these things out by the international pps we are given.

Andy Asaro
06-21-2017, 05:49 PM
Candice is the real deal. I think she's outstanding.

CincyHorseplayer
06-21-2017, 08:05 PM
No and it surprises me. Maybe he took offense to it. I think it's hilarious.

Yeah me too! I had that one in my back pocket for a while. He does look like him!

no breathalyzer
06-22-2017, 08:00 AM
I use to think todd was a clown.. but he probably a lot sharper then most posters on here.. he just likes to have fun.. he can rub you wrong when you are having a bad day thats all.. Candice well she just sucks....:ThmbDown::ThmbDown::ThmbDown::ThmbDown:: ThmbDown:

just my 2cents

stlseeeek
06-22-2017, 11:31 AM
They all are horrible handicappers, except a few.


The HRTV peeps were 10000000X better handicappers and better players.

HalvOnHorseracing
06-22-2017, 09:43 PM
Candice is the real deal. I think she's outstanding.

I'll add my endorsement. Candice works hard on international races, and is the real deal.

Fager Fan
06-23-2017, 12:39 AM
No and it surprises me. Maybe he took offense to it. I think it's hilarious.

Directing him to a thread where he's being slammed? Not a big mystery why he didn't laugh.

menifee
06-23-2017, 01:57 AM
I like Candice a lot. I follow her on Twitter and she has some great insights. I find her handicapping of Aus ptetty good. She's so-so on Hong Kong. She does this voice affect that drives me nuts on TVG - she over pronounces her words and it sounds like she has a strange accent. She use to do YouTube analysis of Derby preps and she did not do it at all. It was just a normal voice.

PaceAdvantage
06-29-2017, 12:55 PM
but he probably a lot sharper then most posters on hereBORING

no breathalyzer
06-29-2017, 03:25 PM
BORING

:headbanger: 7 days later? Guess if you saw it earlier it would of magically disappeared huh

PaceAdvantage
07-06-2017, 08:32 AM
:headbanger: 7 days later? Guess if you saw it earlier it would of magically disappeared huhI've been out of the loop for a while due to a move...imagine what this place would look like if I actually announced ahead of time I wasn't going to be around for a week...:lol: