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jocko699
06-07-2017, 10:18 PM
I hope this finds you all doing well.

I am finalizing my top pick but I have decided to toss all those that raced in the KD and Preakness. I really felt if I was going to catch CE the Preakness was the play and as you all know he got beat late.

The issue I am debating is the Japanese horse coming from Dubai. History has shown these horses typically take longer to get over the trip, race, etc.

I am down to 3, Irish War Cry, J Boys Echo and Patch.

Robert Fischer
06-08-2017, 02:29 PM
3 interesting horses that ran in the Preakness or Kentucky Derby

Multiplier - probably ran better than Lookin At Lee, but hit traffic late. More of a bottom tri/super contender than a win contender. Although Irad gives Lee a puncher's chance, much more value than his rival for similar scenarios.

Tapwrit - more efficient energy distribution than Gormley or Irish War Cry(and most/all others) in the Kentucky Derby. If allowed to patiently run his race, he can capitalize on anyone who falters.

Gormley - Used a lot of horse in the Kentucky Derby racing wide with the pace, in an inefficient manner. Possibility exists that Espinoza rides much more conservatively, and is able to get a 3rd or 4th in the Belmont.





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Epicharis - this is a good solid horse. Unlike Thunder Snow, his form will translate to the United States. Have to respect him in your group of contenders. The fact that he hung a bit late in Dubai, and he draws wide, along with his low price make him likely to be a poor value win or place.

Robert Fischer
06-08-2017, 03:00 PM
looking at the energy distribution and the peak for 3 Belmont contenders who ran in the Kentucky Derby.

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2952s5c.jpg

jocko699
06-08-2017, 03:09 PM
3 interesting horses that ran in the Preakness or Kentucky Derby

Multiplier - probably ran better than Lookin At Lee, but hit traffic late. More of a bottom tri/super contender than a win contender. Although Irad gives Lee a puncher's chance, much more value than his rival for similar scenarios.

Tapwrit - more efficient energy distribution than Gormley or Irish War Cry(and most/all others) in the Kentucky Derby. If allowed to patiently run his race, he can capitalize on anyone who falters.

Gormley - Used a lot of horse in the Kentucky Derby racing wide with the pace, in an inefficient manner. Possibility exists that Espinoza rides much more conservatively, and is able to get a 3rd or 4th in the Belmont.





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Epicharis - this is a good solid horse. Unlike Thunder Snow, his form will translate to the United States. Have to respect him in your group of contenders. The fact that he hung a bit late in Dubai, and he draws wide, along with his low price make him likely to be a poor value win or place.

Robert. thank you for your insight!!

Robert Fischer
06-08-2017, 04:29 PM
no, thank you, Exalted One!

jocko699
06-08-2017, 06:37 PM
no, thank you, Exalted One!

Brilliant, lol!!!!

analyzer
06-09-2017, 12:59 AM
Here are my choices for the Belmont:

11 Epicharis

9 Mean Time

8 Senor Investment

7 Irish War Cry


Good luck to All. Have a Great day.

jocko699
06-09-2017, 08:05 PM
Irish War Cry to win.

Good luck to all.

jimmyb
06-10-2017, 12:27 AM
Top 4 pace
Gormley 99
Meantime 92
IWC 88
Tapwrit 87

Top 4 speed
Gormley 104
IWC 99
Epicharis 99
Senior Investment 96
Multiplier 96

FantasticDan
06-10-2017, 12:05 PM
Current odds as of 11am:

1 Twisted Tom 7-1

2 Tapwrit 5-1

3 Gormley 9-1

4 J Boys Echo 10-1

5 Hollywood Handsome 18-1

6 Lookin At Lee 5-1

7 Irish War Cry 4-1

8 Senior Investment 6-1

9 Meantime 14-1

10 Multiplier 14-1

11 Epicharis SCRATCHED

12 Patch 11-1

Lemon Drop Husker
06-10-2017, 12:22 PM
Current odds as of 11am:

1 Twisted Tom 7-1

2 Tapwrit 5-1

3 Gormley 9-1

4 J Boys Echo 10-1

5 Hollywood Handsome 18-1

6 Lookin At Lee 5-1

7 Irish War Cry 4-1

8 Senior Investment 6-1

9 Meantime 14-1

10 Multiplier 14-1

11 Epicharis SCRATCHED

12 Patch 11-1

Interesting. :1: Twisted Tom taking action. Hard to look past his breeding.

FantasticDan
06-10-2017, 12:27 PM
Interesting. :1: Twisted Tom taking action. Hard to look past his breeding.
https://twitter.com/andyserling/status/873554830140329984

:p

Robert Fischer
06-10-2017, 01:57 PM
Twisted Tom was the value per ml, but NY money has been sharp this weekend, and it has also been overreacting to bad mls, and committing to that overreaction regardless of how the actual odds show up.


Just be happy that Patch(who may surprisingly land in the tri or super) is taking fan money.

analyzer
06-10-2017, 02:32 PM
Revised thoughts

12 Patch or 9 Mean Time
7 Irish War Cry
6 Looking at Lee
10 Multiplier

Good luck to All.

jocko699
06-10-2017, 07:21 PM
In the paddock? No shot!

TheGarMan
06-10-2017, 07:24 PM
In the paddock? No shot!

Is he acting up? -

Mike has been RED HOT today..

jocko699
06-10-2017, 07:34 PM
Is he acting up? -

Mike has been RED HOT today..

Yes sir, pisses me off cuz I bet him with the 7. I wouldn't bet him for any money now.

Pensacola Pete
06-10-2017, 07:36 PM
I'm going to make the first bet I've made on NYRA racing since 2014, on Tapwrit.

JustRalph
06-10-2017, 07:56 PM
Yes sir, pisses me off cuz I bet him with the 7. I wouldn't bet him for any money now.

Yep.....he was done in the paddock and when Sinatra starting singing I thought he might bolt

If I was playing via ADW I would have canceled

jocko699
06-10-2017, 07:58 PM
I'm going to make the first bet I've made on NYRA racing since 2014, on Tapwrit.

Well done sir!!

PaceAdvantage
06-13-2017, 02:07 PM
I'm going to make the first bet I've made on NYRA racing since 2014, on Tapwrit.Belated congrats! :ThmbUp: