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Nitro
06-01-2017, 01:00 PM
I’m going to give Gulfstrean another try today. The overall card looks decent.

Just so that there’s misunderstanding, I post my best selections for each race in order of preference at about 4 minutes to post. They're all based on a real time tote analysis.
I’m not posting bets, or telling anyone else how to or much to bet.

My top 2 selections are my Keys.
They can be played individually or Dutched if the value is there. I will also use them as Keys in Exactas, Tri’s and Supers. Keying entries in exotics means that they have to at least be in the money with the other picks. I may not even be playing a race if it doesn’t offer any value.

BTW as you might have noticed, I will only post 4 selections when there are 6 or 7 entries and 5 selections with 8 or more entries. Some may frown on posting a number of selections in each race, but you’re not going to hit an Exacta with a single pick, or a Triple with 2 picks, or a Super with 3 picks.

Contrary to the trend around here I’ll post the results that the selections produce: Win or Lose
I know it might be difficult for some to understand, but the winning results I post are the potential returns for those types of bets had they been made. I don’t make every bet and I certainly don’t play every race.


Good luck if you’re playing!

Nitro
06-01-2017, 01:12 PM
Race # 1 – 3-4 W/ 1-6 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 01:33 PM
Race # 1 – 3-4 W/ 1-6 @ 4 mins to post

Results: All of that one!

Race # 1 = 4-3-1-6 - WIN – EX -TRI - SUPER :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 4 - $16.40
$2.00 EXACTA – 4-3 - $48.60
$2.00 TRIPLE – 4-3-1 - $77.40
$2.00 SUPER – 4-3-1-6 - $172.20

Nitro
06-01-2017, 01:46 PM
Race # 2 – 3-5 W/ 6-7 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 02:06 PM
Race # 2 – 3-5 W/ 6-7 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 2 = 6-2-3-8 - Nothing in that one - no action on the LS Placer

Nitro
06-01-2017, 02:18 PM
Race # 3 – 3-5-2 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 02:37 PM
Race # 3 – 3-5-2 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 3 = 3-5-2-4 - WIN – EX -TRI Cold

$2.00 WIN - 3 - $4.20
$2.00 EXACTA – 3-5 - $9.60 [
$2.00 TRIPLE – 3-5-2 - $32.20

VigorsTheGrey
06-01-2017, 02:43 PM
Race # 3 – 3-5-2 @ 4 mins to post

Good pick Nitro...!

Nitro
06-01-2017, 02:51 PM
Race # 4 – 4-8 W/ 5-7 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 03:17 PM
Race # 4 – 4-8 W/ 5-7 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 4 = 7-4-6-8 - EX BX
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$2.00 EXACTA – 7-4 - $49.60

Nitro
06-01-2017, 03:22 PM
Race # 5 – 6-3 W/ 4-7-2 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 03:44 PM
Race # 5 – 6-3 W/ 4-7-2 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 5 = 4-3-8-6-2 - EX BX - Winner took all the late action!

$2.00 EXACTA – 4-3 - $17.20

Nitro
06-01-2017, 03:57 PM
Race # 6 – 6-4 W/ 3-9-7 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 04:25 PM
Race # 6 – 6-4 W/ 3-9-7 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 6 = 4-8-9-7-6 - WIN - no action on the LS Placer (#2 Late Scr)

$2.00 WIN - 4 - $3.20

Nitro
06-01-2017, 04:32 PM
Race # 7 – 7-2 W/ 5-8 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 04:53 PM
Race # 7 – 7-2 W/ 5-8 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 7 = 4-2-5-1-8 - Nothing in that one - no action on the LS Winner

Nitro
06-01-2017, 05:02 PM
Race # 8 – 1-3 W/ 5-4 @ 4 mins to post

Racetrack Playa
06-01-2017, 05:04 PM
Hi Nitro:cool: GL @2day
8th @ gp
:2: Amberjack
:3::5::1:

Nitro
06-01-2017, 05:11 PM
Hi Nitro:cool: GL @2day
8th @ gp
:2: Amberjack
:3::5::1:

Hi there Playa! GL to you also!

Nitro
06-01-2017, 05:29 PM
Race # 8 – 1-3 W/ 5-4 @ 4 mins to post

Results:

Race # 8 = 4-1-2-5-3 - EX BX
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$2.00 EXACTA – 4-1 - $28.80

Nitro
06-01-2017, 05:31 PM
Race # 9 – 9-8 W/ 4-6-11 @ 4 mins to post

Nitro
06-01-2017, 05:54 PM
Race # 9 – 9-8 W/ 4-6-11 @ 4 mins to post

Results: All of that one!

Race # 9 = 8-6-11-9-4 - WIN – EX -TRI - SUPER & SUPER HI-5 :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 8 - $7.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 8-6 - $24.40
$2.00 TRIPLE – 8-6-11 - $269.20
$2.00 SUPER – 8-6-11-9 - $749.40
$2.00 SUPER HI-5 – 8-6-11-9-4 - $1,981.60

Yes, by all means ignore my selections!
There’s never any value!:lol::lol::lol:

judd
06-01-2017, 06:01 PM
Great work,as allways:ThmbUp:

VigorsTheGrey
06-01-2017, 06:18 PM
Results: All of that one!

Race # 9 = 8-6-11-9-4 - WIN – EX -TRI - SUPER & SUPER HI-5 :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 8 - $7.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 8-6 - $24.40
$2.00 TRIPLE – 8-6-11 - $269.20
$2.00 SUPER – 8-6-11-9 - $749.40
$2.00 SUPER HI-5 – 8-6-11-9-4 - $1,981.60

Yes, by all means ignore my selections!
There’s never any value!:lol::lol::lol:

Value is when you CASH a ticket....not just post a result.

lamboguy
06-01-2017, 06:28 PM
Results: All of that one!

Race # 9 = 8-6-11-9-4 - WIN – EX -TRI - SUPER & SUPER HI-5 :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 8 - $7.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 8-6 - $24.40
$2.00 TRIPLE – 8-6-11 - $269.20
$2.00 SUPER – 8-6-11-9 - $749.40
$2.00 SUPER HI-5 – 8-6-11-9-4 - $1,981.60

Yes, by all means ignore my selections!
There’s never any value!:lol::lol::lol:++++++++++++++++++if you play 5 horse boxes on your selections on the superfecta you put up $240 and you get back $749 or about 2-1 for your bet if boxed them up. the same 5 horse box in the hi five cost the same thing and you got back close to $2000 or about 7-1 for your ice cold box.

if you can produce these winning results every time you make a bet or even every other bet, i want to sign up for this. i can't produce this type of a hit rate, but maybe your exclusive tote analysis can. it seems like you need a combination of high hit rates and larger than average payoffs to make a fortune at this. then again maybe your exclusive tote analysis can produce these payoffs consistently, i know mine can't.

VigorsTheGrey
06-01-2017, 07:31 PM
++++++++++++++++++if you play 5 horse boxes on your selections on the superfecta you put up $240 and you get back $749 or about 2-1 for your bet if boxed them up. the same 5 horse box in the hi five cost the same thing and you got back close to $2000 or about 7-1 for your ice cold box.

if you can produce these winning results every time you make a bet or even every other bet, i want to sign up for this. i can't produce this type of a hit rate, but maybe your exclusive tote analysis can. it seems like you need a combination of high hit rates and larger than average payoffs to make a fortune at this. then again maybe your exclusive tote analysis can produce these payoffs consistently, i know mine can't.

I doubt he cashed a ticket, why don't you ask him what his actual wager was/ is....He would of had to wager over $700 to get these results including the High 5...most of his picks are the top 2 betting choices as keys, then other contenders under 10-1....How often do the top 5 betting choices form combinations similar to his posted results....very often....anyone can wait till the last 4 minutes and post the top 5 betting choices....It is a rare day that Nitro has a Key horse above 4-1...

Nitro
06-01-2017, 07:43 PM
Value is when you CASH a ticket....not just post a result.

Value has to be recognized BEFORE a play is made to determine if its even worth a bet.

But, again in case you need reminding this is not a Betting forum. It's a Selection forum where we simply share what we believe to be some worthwhile information.

That 9th race happened to be one of the few potentially HIGH Value races on the card.
I guess you'll never know how many times I had that Super! But because of the strong indicators on the 2 Keys I used them each on top and in each of the other positions underneath:
K1 w/ K2 / A-B-C / A-B-C = 6 combs = $12
K1 w/ A-B-C / K2 / A-B-C = 6 combs = $12
K1 w/ A-B-C / A-B-C / K2 = 6 combs = $12

K2 w/ K1 / A-B-C / A-B-C = 6 combs = $12
K2 w/ A-B-C / K1 / A-B-C = 6 combs = $12
K2 w/ A-B-C / A-B-C / K1 = 6 combs = $12
Total 36 combos = $72

Although the previous betting structures you posted on that other thread are straightforward, they're not very creative when it comes to using both Key selections.

georgetkingiv
06-01-2017, 07:52 PM
Results: All of that one!

Race # 9 = 8-6-11-9-4 - WIN – EX -TRI - SUPER & SUPER HI-5 :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN - 8 - $7.60
$2.00 EXACTA – 8-6 - $24.40
$2.00 TRIPLE – 8-6-11 - $269.20
$2.00 SUPER – 8-6-11-9 - $749.40
$2.00 SUPER HI-5 – 8-6-11-9-4 - $1,981.60

Yes, by all means ignore my selections!
There’s never any value!:lol::lol::lol:

Most of your selections were not profitable because first of all you do not instruct your players what type of wager they should be structuring. You just cast out your net of selections and whatever that net of selections nets you claim. If that is the case everyone of you selection nets has to be played with that in mind. Therefore every single combination of every wager you might attempt to claim has to be added up and accounted for. That is quite expensive bro. So when you post a $17.20 exacta box, $3.20 win, or just a plain old loss you are actually taking a major loss. Furthermore I tried picking with 4-5 selections the other day just to amuse myself and prove a point and within short order I had already tallied up close to $1500.00 in purported returns yet you don't hear me talking shit. Now can you imagine how much money in purported returns I would have netted had I continued picking all day using 5 generic selections?

Bottom line I am mindful that the people playing my selections worked hard for their money and most are probably not looking to drop several hundred dollars per ticket on some arrogant pricks selections that only offers them 4-8 horses and no wager structure.

P.S. The essence of a horseplayer is to pick a winner. That is what this game is all about. Yet you're too chicken shit to try that because it might just humble you. If you want to compete on a fair level with all your peers and truly test yourself. How about dropping the net and picking up a fishing rod?

It is not honorable to fight a man armed with one sword armed with 4-8. :ThmbDown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1vO_8koiU

Nitro
06-01-2017, 08:01 PM
++++++++++++++++++if you play 5 horse boxes on your selections on the superfecta you put up $240 and you get back $749 or about 2-1 for your bet if boxed them up. the same 5 horse box in the hi five cost the same thing and you got back close to $2000 or about 7-1 for your ice cold box.

if you can produce these winning results every time you make a bet or even every other bet, i want to sign up for this. i can't produce this type of a hit rate, but maybe your exclusive tote analysis can. it seems like you need a combination of high hit rates and larger than average payoffs to make a fortune at this. then again maybe your exclusive tote analysis can produce these payoffs consistently, i know mine can't.

Hey there Lamboguy!
It's not necessary to "BOX" all 5 selections when using 2 Keys in a Super bet. There are many structures to choose from depending upon how strong you feel about those Keys.

Of course if you're boxing all 5 for the Super Hi-5 its:
5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 120 combos = $240

However when using each Key on on Top its:
K1 w/ K2-A-B-C / K2-A-B-C / K2-A-B-C / K2-A-B-C = 1 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 24 combs = $48
K2 w/ K1-A-B-C / K1-A-B-C / K1-A-B-C / K1-A-B-C = 1 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 24 combs = $48
Total 48 combos = $96

Nitro
06-01-2017, 08:12 PM
Most of your selections were not profitable because first of all you do not instruct your players what type of wager they should be structuring. You just cast out your net of selections and whatever that net of selections nets you claim. If that is the case everyone of you selection nets has to be played with that in mind. Therefore every single combination of every wager you might attempt to claim has to be added up and accounted for. That is quite expensive bro. So when you post a $17.20 exacta box, $3.20 win, or just a plain old loss you are actually taking a major loss. Furthermore I tried picking with 4-5 selections the other day just to amuse myself and prove a point and within short order I had already tallied up close to $1500.00 in purported returns yet you don't hear me talking shit. Now can you imagine how much money in purported returns I would have netted had I continued picking all day using 5 generic selections?

Bottom line I am mindful that the people playing my selections worked hard for their money and most are probably not looking to drop several hundred dollars per ticket on some arrogant pricks selections that only offers them 4-8 horses and no wager structure.

P.S. The essence of a horseplayer is to pick a winner. That is what this game is all about. Yet you're too chicken shit to try that because it might just humble you. If you want to compete on a fair level with all your peers and truly test yourself. How about dropping the net and picking up a fishing rod?

It is not honorable to fight a man armed with one sword armed with 4-8. :ThmbDown:


George you really don't get it. Now we're supposed to provide our selections and also "instruct" others on how to play them.
You MUST be joking!!!!
Maybe we should bet them for others as well!!

Since when do you or anyone else have the right to tell some else how to bet or worse yet how much to bet.

As far as I'm concerned if anyone wants to use selections they play them at their own discretion.

Your "essence" of horse-playing is PURE unadulterated B.S.!!!
This game NOT about Picking Winners, its ALL about making Winning Plays! Period.

georgetkingiv
06-01-2017, 08:20 PM
George you really don't get it. Now we're supposed to provide our selections and also "instruct" others on how to play them.
You MUST be joking!!!!
Maybe we should bet them for others as well!!

Since when do you or anyone else have the right to tell some else how to bet or worse yet how much to bet.

As far as I'm concerned if anyone wants to use selections they play them at their own discretion.

Nitro I am going to handicap you and my selection is bullshitter. In fact you're my NAP of the day.

Bet the farm on this! :cool:

Lollololololololololol

georgetkingiv
06-01-2017, 08:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II6dcAOoWyw

Nitro
06-01-2017, 08:38 PM
Nitro I am going to handicap you and my selection is bullshitter. In fact you're my NAP of the day.

Bet the farm on this! :cool:

Lollololololololololol

George I hate to say this, but I now recognize just how naive a so-called horseplayer you really are.

You attempt to inflate your ego by trying to pick a winner here and there.

While I try to inflate my bankroll by making an occasional winning play.

BTW please do your napping on your own threads and stop polluting others with all your nonsense about how we should all play this game.

Slew
06-01-2017, 08:42 PM
While all this is fun to read, NOT!!! I'm still waiting on one of you fine fellas to explain how I turn my $20 into $200?

Please....

Pretty please.....:cool:

georgetkingiv
06-01-2017, 08:48 PM
Nitro,

Am I the only one calling you out? No. Correct? Therefore others on the board here clearly share the same sentiment in regards to you and that is you are a bullshitter. Are we all wrong?

georgetkingiv
06-01-2017, 08:51 PM
While all this is fun to read, NOT!!! I'm still waiting on one of you fine fellas to explain how I turn my $20 into $200?

Please....

Pretty please.....:cool:

Lol. A lot of book work and a lot of luck.

Nitro
06-01-2017, 09:00 PM
While all this is fun to read, NOT!!! I'm still waiting on one of you fine fellas to explain how I turn my $20 into $200?

Please....

Pretty please.....:cool:

You mean you're not interested in just picking a Winner?

Come on now! You mean this game is about making money?

Sorry I can't predict the future, but I can weed out the contenders and make some decent plays at times.

Nitro
06-01-2017, 09:14 PM
Nitro,

Am I the only one calling you out? No. Correct? Therefore others on the board here clearly share the same sentiment in regards to you and that is you are a bullshitter. Are we all wrong?

Do think I give 2 shits about you or anyone else' s feelings about me on this board. Since when is this a personality contest?

Do you want me to tell you what you are George? I doubt it!

I'm sorry if you can't deal with success, but that also tells me a lot about your demeanor and the short-comings in your own game.

Its funny how the skeptics seem come out of the woodwork whenever something worthwhile occurs.

georgetkingiv
06-01-2017, 09:16 PM
Nitro,

I only imagine further participating in this discussion is just going to end with more circular arguments, semantics, and generally more sh*t this is going bore me to death.

To quote the great Joe Dirt "Keep on, keepin' on, brother".

Lollololololololololol

https://i.giphy.com/kOZ5BWKm2tMGs.webp

VigorsTheGrey
06-01-2017, 09:40 PM
I suggest that king, dehoss, nitro, and myself do a K1K2/ABC contest for 1 card picked by PA mike and see who can have the most "All of that" Scores....how about it...?

soonboomer
06-01-2017, 09:57 PM
These are my favorite kind of races to play.

R#3 - 1600M (8F) T.........2-4 W/ 1-3-5-8.....1:30 AM EST
(Also of interest are: #10 & #14 – Watch Live tote activity).......from a recent night in Hong Kong.

I get to deal with potentially 8 horses, right?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol ::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol ::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol ::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

VigorsTheGrey
06-01-2017, 10:21 PM
These are my favorite kind of races to play.

R#3 - 1600M (8F) T.........2-4 W/ 1-3-5-8.....1:30 AM EST
(Also of interest are: #10 & #14 – Watch Live tote activity).......from a recent night in Hong Kong.

I get to deal with potentially 8 horses, right?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol ::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol ::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol ::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

No, you only get 2 key horses and 3 others for a total of 5 horses.

We will each have a make-believe bankroll of $468 per race...We all must play each race and post our horses by 4 min prior to post time.......then we total up our respective winnings and post the results....American race track only.

Nitro
06-01-2017, 11:11 PM
These are my favorite kind of races to play.

R#3 - 1600M (8F) T.........2-4 W/ 1-3-5-8.....1:30 AM EST
(Also of interest are: #10 & #14 – Watch Live tote activity).......from a recent night in Hong Kong.

I get to deal with potentially 8 horses, right?

That’s your favorite type of race?
Why didn’t you also mention the time that race went off in HK?
(1:30 AM EST Sunday morning!)
I doubt you were even awake! :lol:
Come to think of it I’ve never seen you on board anytime during any of the early morning HK sessions. So who’s doing the B.S.ing? :puke:

I realize that some people like you are mentally handicapped and find it difficult to deal with playing more than 1 selection per race. That’s not my problem.

I guess you have nothing better to do than some irrelevant trolling. :D
But do yourself a favor, and simply avoid my threads all together. This way you won’t have to get frustrated trying to follow along. (Not that you do anyway!) :liar:

soonboomer
06-02-2017, 12:27 AM
That’s your favorite type of race?
Why didn’t you also mention the time that race went off in HK? Actually, I did...it was in your post I quoted.
(1:30 AM EST Sunday morning!)
I doubt you were even awake! I probably wasn't...I have a life. :lol:
Come to think of it I’ve never seen you on board anytime during any of the early morning HK sessions. So who’s doing the B.S.ing? :puke:

I realize that some people like you are mentally handicapped and find it difficult to deal with playing more than 1 selection per race. Listing eight horses for one race....eight??:lol: That’s not my problem.

I guess you have nothing better to do than some irrelevant trolling. :D
But do yourself a favor, and simply avoid my threads all together. This way you won’t have to get frustrated trying to follow along. (Not that you do anyway!) :liar: You're right...I don't follow...and no one else does either.


Looks like I struck a nerve. Redboarding at its finest.

Alwaysonpoint36
06-02-2017, 09:32 PM
:D :D what a joke