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Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 11:13 AM
:6::6::6:

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 12:09 PM
Parx r1 wagers

Pick 3s
$4 :2::4: w/ :1: w/ :5::6: = $16
$3 24 w/ 4 w/ 56 = $12
$3 24 w/ 1 w/ 2 = $6
$2 24 w/ 4 w/ 2 = $4
$1 6 w/ 1 w/ 56 = $2
$1 24 w/ 1 w/ 3 = $2
($42 in pk3s)

Daily Doubles
$15 :2::4: w/ :1: = $30
$10 24 w/ 4 = $20
$5 6 w/ 1 = $5
($55 in DDs)

Exactas
$15 :2::4: box = $30
$10 24 w/ 6 = $20
$5 6 w/ 24 = $10
($60 in ex)

W$157 , R$0 (-157)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 12:38 PM
Finger Lakes r1 wagers

Doubles

$15 :1:/ :2::3::5: = $45
$10 4/ 235 = $30
(wagered $75 doubles fl)


W$75 , R$0 (-232)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 12:50 PM
also Parx r1

$20 Win on :2:

W$20 , R$0 (-252)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:02 PM
epic underlay 6 comes through and beats my 2 by half length.

objection in progress but the 6 lugged out way prior to the final push. Will not come down.

I did make one mistake, by not weighting the 2 higher on the exactas. I didn't want much investment on the 6, but that should have been doubled.

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:04 PM
$5 6 w/ 24 = $10



R$40 (-212)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:10 PM
also Fl r1

.50c pk4
:1: / :3::5: /:3::4: / :1::3::4: =$12

W12 (-224)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:14 PM
Parx r2


$5 ex :1: w/ :2::6: = $10

W10 (-234)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:23 PM
FINGER LAKES R2

$5 ex :3: w/ 5 = $5
$5 box :3::5: =$10

W15 ($-249)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:24 PM
PARX 2
$20 PLACE 1

-269

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:31 PM
Zulueta rocketship outruns her flaws.

Not very successful for the Parx opening.

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:34 PM
also Finger lakes r2

$5 ex :5: w/ :2::3: =$10

(-279)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:39 PM
Parx 3

$5 ex box :2::5: =$10

($-289)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:48 PM
Finger Lakes r1 wagers

Doubles

$15 :1:/ :2::3::5: = $45

:1::5: DOUBLE RETURNS $342


FINGER LAKES R2

$5 box :3::5: =$10

:5::3: EXACTA RETURNS $128.75




also Finger lakes r2

$5 ex :5: w/ :2::3: =$10

:5::3: EXACTA RETURNS $128.75


R $599.50 (+310.50)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:49 PM
finally got paid for making value wagers

VigorsTheGrey
05-30-2017, 01:51 PM
FINGER LAKES R2

$5 ex :3: w/ 5 = $5
$5 box :3::5: =$10

W15 ($-249)

Good handicapping...! Rich P said on TVG that the 5 was beat by a combined 60 some lengths in its last 3 races...Robert, what pointed you to this horse that won easily today...?

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:54 PM
Good handicapping...! Rich P said on TVG that the 5 was beat by a combined 60 some lengths in its last 3 races...Robert, what pointed you to this horse that won easily today...?

Can't reveal all my secrets Vigors!

I will say that with whatever methods used, I had :2::3::5: rated about equally, and with the 5 a much better price, reinforcing it was a no-brainer.

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 01:57 PM
also PARX r3

.50c tri
235 / 235 / all = $24

(+$286.50)

VigorsTheGrey
05-30-2017, 02:01 PM
Can't reveal all my secrets Vigors!

I will say that with whatever methods used, I had :2::3::5: rated about equally, and with the 5 a much better price, reinforcing it was a no-brainer.

Fair enough...nice score...carry on Robert...!

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 02:05 PM
Fair enough...nice score...carry on Robert...!

horse racing is one of the few places where you can have a crazy opinion, and get paid as long as you are right on the money.

Much of life is more about groupthink.

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 02:07 PM
also PARX r3

.50c tri
235 / 235 / all = $24


:3::5::2: 50CENT TRI RETURNS $46.40



(+$332.90)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 02:10 PM
also Finger Lakes r3

win hedge
$20 Win on 2 and 6 =$40

(+292.90)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 02:50 PM
also Fl r1

.50c pk4
:1: / :3::5: /:3::4: / :1::3::4: =$12


50C PICK4 RETURNS $55.75

(+$348.65)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:05 PM
INDIANA r3

$2 exacta :7: w/ :5: =$2
$2 pik 3 7 8 7 =$2


+344.65

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:11 PM
Objection?
lost fair and square, but the 5 did well to hold second. He took on the chalk and gave bettors their money's worth.

VigorsTheGrey
05-30-2017, 03:13 PM
50C PICK4 RETURNS $55.75

(+$348.65)
Nice picking...Robert, do you find yourself betting the exotics in preset formula or favorite structure...or do you prefer to fashion the wager to the race(s), what ever it calls for based on the distinct wagering opportunity that each race presents...?

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:14 PM
please hold all tickets

Declan Cannon going for the oscar with the jerk of the reigns

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:19 PM
oscar awarded

easy cold $21.40 exacta + pending pk3 denied

NY jocks need to start using the reign-jerk theatrics when they actually do get routinely herded.

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:33 PM
Nice picking...Robert, do you find yourself betting the exotics in preset formula or favorite structure...or do you prefer to fashion the wager to the race(s), what ever it calls for based on the distinct wagering opportunity that each race presents...?

Adapt Steve Crist's "ABC" structure to my own style as well as the race.

I start with least liked of the horses that I plan to use, and punch it for the minimum. Then I invest more as I go up in opinion and price.
something like:
A x 3 (best price, or most likely to win)
B x 2 (Should be competitive, but not the best and not the best price)
C x 1 (long shots, or favs i hate, but can't comfortably toss)

Sometimes you are forced to treat a short-price as an 'A+' and bet that twice, so that you don't land on a short price and only make a few bucks for all your work.
You don't want to be forced into hammering chalk for the most part. It's ok when stringing together value, but your whole purpose of playing was a race or two where the public was wrong.


also (as in the pick4 at FL) sometimes, I'll just punch a minimum pk3 or pk4 if I have a couple non-favorites as my top choice, and the surrounding races are chalky short fields. If I hit, I make a few bucks.

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:37 PM
indiana r4
doubles
$4 8 w/7
$3 8 w/1
$2 7 w/7
$1 7 w/1
wagered $10



+334.65

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:38 PM
also ex bx 789

-6

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 03:40 PM
+328.65

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 04:04 PM
indiana r5

$10cent super
1279 w/ 125679 w/ 125679 w/ 4 =$8

$1 tri
:7: w/ :2::9: w/ ALL =$12

$50cent tri
:2::9: / :7: / ALL =$6

WAGERED $26

(+302.65)

Robert Fischer
05-30-2017, 04:08 PM
enough for today

VigorsTheGrey
05-30-2017, 05:37 PM
Great thread....packed full of insight...I'm gonna study this more...some valuable lessons here...thank you, Robert...

PaceAdvantage
05-30-2017, 05:40 PM
finally got paid for making value wagersNice! :ThmbUp: