dilanesp

05-11-2017, 03:50 PM

I have some questions about pace figures that maybe the more mathematically inclined folks here might be able to help me with.

Up until the mid-1990's (roughly when I got out of law school) I made my own speed and pace figures. I used Beyer's method for speed figures, and made what was basically a Beyer figure for the first half mile of 5 1/2 furlong, 6 furlong, and 6 1/2 furlong sprints. I found the pace figures very useful in identifying when a speed horse was faster than his rivals. I can remember some significant tickets I cashed doing that.

When I no longer had time to make my own figures, I started using the pace numbers out of Today's Racing Digest, again only in the sprints. Again, I've had some big scores using that, the most memorable probably being Trinniburg in the BC Sprint.

Here's my basic, beginners' questions. There's now been an explosion of pace figures. There are Equibase pace figures in the programs that they produce, calculated precisely taking into account the various run-ups. The Racing Form now runs a timeform pace number (just one for each horse, not every race). And Formulator features Moss Pace Numbers. I know Timeform sells pace numbers directly too.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the following questions:

1. My use of pace numbers, as you can see from my discussion, is pretty limited. I just use them to see if there's a superior speed horse in a sprint. What are some handicapping angles beyond this. How should I approach pace numbers in routes, or elongated sprints? Do they have any usefulness in turf sprints? Turf routes? When is a superior pace number irrelevant?

2. Which pace numbers, of the commercially available ones, are the most useful for these purposes?

Thanks in advance for all discussion.

Up until the mid-1990's (roughly when I got out of law school) I made my own speed and pace figures. I used Beyer's method for speed figures, and made what was basically a Beyer figure for the first half mile of 5 1/2 furlong, 6 furlong, and 6 1/2 furlong sprints. I found the pace figures very useful in identifying when a speed horse was faster than his rivals. I can remember some significant tickets I cashed doing that.

When I no longer had time to make my own figures, I started using the pace numbers out of Today's Racing Digest, again only in the sprints. Again, I've had some big scores using that, the most memorable probably being Trinniburg in the BC Sprint.

Here's my basic, beginners' questions. There's now been an explosion of pace figures. There are Equibase pace figures in the programs that they produce, calculated precisely taking into account the various run-ups. The Racing Form now runs a timeform pace number (just one for each horse, not every race). And Formulator features Moss Pace Numbers. I know Timeform sells pace numbers directly too.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the following questions:

1. My use of pace numbers, as you can see from my discussion, is pretty limited. I just use them to see if there's a superior speed horse in a sprint. What are some handicapping angles beyond this. How should I approach pace numbers in routes, or elongated sprints? Do they have any usefulness in turf sprints? Turf routes? When is a superior pace number irrelevant?

2. Which pace numbers, of the commercially available ones, are the most useful for these purposes?

Thanks in advance for all discussion.