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Lemon Drop Husker
04-07-2017, 11:08 PM
Yeah, yeah, I know NYRA, you are all amped up to hear my thoughts on this race.

This 7F beauty has crowned some greats. Morning Line, Congaree, Artax.

But 2017 it is, and here is the field:

:1: All Star Red: Nice horse, but can't beat a number of these at 6F. Hasn't beat anybody at 7.

:2: Tommy Macho: Flat out Money Burner that is now going back in distance from his normal mile to 7F. Maybe a good change for his deep closing style, but certainly don't love anything about hit 7/2 ML odds.

:3: Sassicaia: Favored over a couple in here last out at 6F. His Toboggan back in January was good, but was it that good? And he'll need that to win among this field.

:4: Awesome Banner: 4YO switches trainers in here and has ran consecutive bullets. Not a big fan of the barn move, and hasn't done much at this level.

:5: King Kranz: Has never really ever beat anybody, but should be a solid exotics play.

:6: Spartiatis: Couldn't beat the 5 last out stepping up in class. As a 7YO, can he get better?

:7: Green Gratto: He'll get to the front. Can he get 7Fs? Not likely.

:8: Unified: 5 career races, and if he doesn't have the lead at the 2nd call he won't win. Gotta respect a horse who beat Mind Your Biscuits last out. The horse to beat.

:9: Ocean Knight: At one point in time, this was big time Kentucky Derby contender. He is now 5, always overbet, and in a race he should have no business in winning.

SUMMARY: I'll be the dumb money and play the :9:. Rest of the field interests me as much as Barry Manilow's greatest hits.

PaceAdvantage
04-08-2017, 01:33 AM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

Lemon Drop Husker
04-08-2017, 01:37 AM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

Ha!

This is a really really weird field. Pretty much why I picked it. 9 horses and not a one you feel confident about.

PaceAdvantage
04-08-2017, 01:41 AM
Obviously not confident in Gratto getting the distance...but...at a big price he's worth the risk IMO...

EasyGoer89
04-08-2017, 04:18 AM
The 2, 4 and 8 and 9 are 'strangers' from these usual suspects, I'm leaning

2489/2489/6 in tri

Whosonfirst
04-08-2017, 07:12 AM
The 2, 4 and 8 and 9 are 'strangers' from these usual suspects, I'm leaning

2489/2489/6 in tri
I like how you think, when many horses in a race have faced off one or more times before, look elsewhere. Now I have to look at the PP's.

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 07:37 AM
1964 Carter

EMD4ME
04-08-2017, 07:48 AM
I like the :6::8: here.

LIKE the 6 A LOT.

FEAR the 8.


This is a G3, not a G1.

LDH, Yes, the 6 has grown into his body in his 6 & 7 year old season. One of those late bloomers.

Whosonfirst
04-08-2017, 07:55 AM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

I'm reversing your top two: 4-7-8.

EMD4ME
04-08-2017, 08:04 AM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

I WISH you were the ML odds maker on these days :)

HalvOnHorseracing
04-08-2017, 10:08 AM
I had published :8::6::2: on my site. For public selection purposes it was hard not to put Unified on top, but Spartiatis ran a big one on the Tom Fool, and he has run decently on the main. I think he'll show well at 7F. At the odds he's probably the win bet. The other horse that I wonder about is Sassicaia. He doesn't look quite as fast as the top two, but he could sneak into the verticals. I'll probably make a sub-prime bet to win on Spartiatis and a healthy :8::6: exacta.

EMD4ME
04-08-2017, 10:23 AM
I had published :8::6::2: on my site. For public selection purposes it was hard not to put Unified on top, but Spartiatis ran a big one on the Tom Fool, and he has run decently on the main. I think he'll show well at 7F. At the odds he's probably the win bet. The other horse that I wonder about is Sassicaia. He doesn't look quite as fast as the top two, but he could sneak into the verticals. I'll probably make a sub-prime bet to win on Spartiatis and a healthy :8::6: exacta.

Agreed :headbanger:

Tom
04-08-2017, 01:39 PM
Nice race.....for a Gr 3.
Agree, Unified the one to beat. He won A gR2, he has only 1 off race, he just tied his 3yo top and looks ready to move ahead, 100-105 maybe?

Only one other horse going to run in that range - maybe. Tommy Macho. Close behind are King Kranz, 3rd off the bench, and Sassicaia.

:8: / :2::3::5:
:2::3::5: / :8:

And a flier box on :2::3::5: for beer money.

Lemon Drop Husker
04-08-2017, 05:18 PM
Surely there will be an inquiry, but how did GG go off at 54/1? :eek:

:2: Tommy Macho was the best today. Will they DQ both the :7: and :8:?

Tom
04-08-2017, 05:18 PM
Obviously not confident in Gratto getting the distance...but...at a big price he's worth the risk IMO...

Oh my! :faint:

Racetrack Playa
04-08-2017, 05:19 PM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.
Overlay:ThmbUp:

EasyGoer89
04-08-2017, 05:19 PM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

Wow.

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 05:20 PM
Alright! Green MFin Gratto, have $2 P3 and live in P5!!!

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 05:21 PM
Thanks PA, I always liked that horse and when I saws you mention hm I included on Pick tickets!!!

cj
04-08-2017, 05:21 PM
Obviously not confident in Gratto getting the distance...but...at a big price he's worth the risk IMO...

I'm starting to think you might use our product :)

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 05:24 PM
HALLELUJAH!!!! NoDQ

Lemon Drop Husker
04-08-2017, 05:25 PM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc

098poi
04-08-2017, 05:28 PM
Obviously not confident in Gratto getting the distance...but...at a big price he's worth the risk IMO...

$110.00 worth it for you?? :ThmbUp:

HuggingTheRail
04-08-2017, 05:32 PM
Hope you loaded up bossman!

HalvOnHorseracing
04-08-2017, 05:40 PM
I couldn't have been more wrong about Spartiatis, although I'm thinking this will turn out to be a speed favoring day. Green Gratto was a smart bet given the fact that everybody knew he was clearly getting the lead and would have to be caught.

I'll admit I haven't been on the right side of Green Gratto ever.

Exotic1
04-08-2017, 05:50 PM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

Unfrknbelievable !!!

Excellent.

NorCalGreg
04-08-2017, 05:57 PM
I'm starting to think you might use our product :)

He switched over to Pace View couple weeks back :popcorn:

Don't know if he ever used it, though

PaceAdvantage
04-08-2017, 06:26 PM
I'm starting to think you might use our product :)Yup...

Thanks guys...and believe it or not, I just had the winner of the Blue Grass at 31-1...however, I had to be out of the house and couldn't post it and didn't get to bet it....at least I have Green Gratto to console myself with....

Lemon Drop Husker
04-08-2017, 06:27 PM
Yup...

Thanks guys...and believe it or not, I just had the winner of the Blue Grass at 31-1...however, I had to be out of the house and couldn't post it and didn't get to bet it....at least I have Green Gratto to console myself with....

Liar. :)

PaceAdvantage
04-08-2017, 06:33 PM
Liar. :)I literally ran the numbers as they were loading the horses in the gate...just got home right before it went off...I was pretty sick during the late stretch run when I knew he was going to hang on...

cj
04-08-2017, 06:42 PM
I literally ran the numbers as they were loading the horses in the gate...just got home right before it went off...I was pretty sick during the late stretch run when I knew he was going to hang on...

You can still win with speed :)

I bet the wrong one in the Blue Grass, 5 folded like a cheap suit.

CincyHorseplayer
04-08-2017, 07:06 PM
Alright! Green MFin Gratto, have $2 P3 and live in P5!!!

Did you get the P5?

Crossing fingers for you!

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 07:17 PM
Did you get the P5?

Crossing fingers for you!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSQhs2sofo

40 PM
Online GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6,8

R10: 3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3

$54.00$0.00 $0.00 Resolved Today - 04:38 PMOnline GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6-8

R10: 2,3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3,5

$144.00

$0.00 $5,193.00 Resolved Thank you Cincy. I have been on a real ugly losing streak so this was fantastic.

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 07:25 PM
PA, I'll do a commercial for this site, it pays to PA!!! Ads will come out of the woodwork.

PaceAdvantage
04-08-2017, 07:26 PM
For the record, all of my posted plays for the past few years, including all of my posted plays recently, have been made using cj's TimeFormUS numbers...if anyone deserves a shout out, it's cj.

CincyHorseplayer
04-08-2017, 07:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSQhs2sofo

40 PM
Online GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6,8

R10: 3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3

$54.00$0.00 $0.00 Resolved Today - 04:38 PMOnline GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6-8

R10: 2,3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3,5

$144.00

$0.00 $5,193.00 Resolved Thank you Cincy. I have been on a real ugly losing streak so this was fantastic.

Allright brother. Nice one!:headbanger:

RunForTheRoses
04-08-2017, 07:28 PM
They did have the 7 on top and the pace predictor said race favors horse on lead which was 7.

I'm lucky I get free tfus with tvg.

cj
04-08-2017, 08:02 PM
For the record, all of my posted plays for the past few years, including all of my posted plays recently, have been made using cj's TimeFormUS numbers...if anyone deserves a shout out, it's cj.

Nah, you bet them. You're creative. I love that your lines often look crazy.

cj
04-08-2017, 08:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSQhs2sofo

40 PM
Online GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6,8

R10: 3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3

$54.00$0.00 $0.00 Resolved Today - 04:38 PMOnline GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6-8

R10: 2,3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3,5

$144.00

$0.00 $5,193.00 Resolved Thank you Cincy. I have been on a real ugly losing streak so this was fantastic.

That is awesome, nice job!

Exotic1
04-08-2017, 08:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSQhs2sofo

40 PM
Online GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6,8

R10: 3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3

$54.00$0.00 $0.00 Resolved Today - 04:38 PMOnline GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6-8

R10: 2,3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3,5

$144.00

$0.00 $5,193.00 Resolved Thank you Cincy. I have been on a real ugly losing streak so this was fantastic.

Excellent !!

HuggingTheRail
04-08-2017, 08:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSQhs2sofo

40 PM
Online GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6,8

R10: 3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3

$54.00$0.00 $0.00 Resolved Today - 04:38 PMOnline GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6-8

R10: 2,3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3,5

$144.00

$0.00 $5,193.00 Resolved Thank you Cincy. I have been on a real ugly losing streak so this was fantastic.

Nicely done! :ThmbUp:

PaceAdvantage
04-09-2017, 10:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSQhs2sofo

40 PM
Online GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6,8

R10: 3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3

$54.00$0.00 $0.00 Resolved Today - 04:38 PMOnline GamingAqueductR8$0.50Pick 5R8: 2,7

R9: 2,6-8

R10: 2,3,7,8

R11: 1,2,5

R12: 1,3,5

$144.00

$0.00 $5,193.00 Resolved Thank you Cincy. I have been on a real ugly losing streak so this was fantastic.This is YUUUUUUUUGGGGGEEEEEE

Nice! :ThmbUp:

Glad we both weren't scared off by the "he can't get the distance" conventional wisdom...even though he did win at 7f in the past...

Dahoss9698
04-09-2017, 10:48 AM
Great pick PA and congrats on that score RunForTheRoses!

burnsy
04-09-2017, 11:09 AM
I always come up with some seriously whacky lines in these big races...here's another one:

:7: Green Gratto 6/5
:4: Awesome Banner 7/1

God help us all.

Great call! I didn't see this thread until this morning and I'm still crying in my coffee over this result. 54-1 on that horse was so out of line and I struck out on using him. That was the worst of several kicks in the wallet yesterday. In fact, after the Carter I should of just walked away, those are game changers.


Good for you. :ThmbUp:

PaceAdvantage
04-09-2017, 11:10 AM
I'm still waiting for Thaskalos to comment on my line like he often does...;)

johnhannibalsmith
04-09-2017, 11:13 AM
Feel free to use admin powers and edit my contest selections as you see fit. Noice.

PaceAdvantage
04-09-2017, 11:16 AM
Feel free to use admin powers and edit my contest selections as you see fit. Noice.I don't get it...:confused:

johnhannibalsmith
04-09-2017, 11:19 AM
I don't get it...:confused:

I am doing horribly yet again with the move to the main. I think I am running 2 for about 30. So, if you like another Green Grotto, I encourage you to fix my selections.

It was an awkward compliment attempting to rephrase previous compliments to avoid redundancy. :)

Murph
04-09-2017, 11:28 AM
I'm still waiting for Thaskalos to comment on my line like he often does...;)I know I nearly did. Great call! :ThmbUp: