Let's just call it : Obamagate

[JustRalph]

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/31/fox-news-private-citizens-were-unmasked-for-political-purposes/

Being ignored

[Lemon Drop Husker]

:pound:

Thought what you posted was "fake news", but Adam Housley is real, and that is his real Twitter account.

Either way, I'll wait to see what is truly real or not.

[Hank]

You poor bastards must be suffering from advanced Alzheimer's.

DEVIN NUNES.:lol::lol:





http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/326793-devin-nunes-trump-and-the-russia-probe-a-timeline

[Lemon Drop Husker]

You poor bastards must be suffering from advanced Alzheimer's.

DEVIN NUNES.:lol::lol:





http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/326793-devin-nunes-trump-and-the-russia-probe-a-timeline

OK.

So crap news is your friend.

You follow Rosie O'Donnell on twitter don't you... :popcorn:

[chadk66]

When Trump tweated he was surveyed, anybody that was even remotely honest with themselves knew that it was true. The only one that thinks he wasn't, or denies he was is completely over the cliff.

[woodtoo]

Obamaloser did all he could to under mean not only America but the whole ME.
Thank the Egyptian people for removing Losers Muslim Brotherhoods Morsi
and electing El Sisi who will be welcomed to the Whitehouse Monday.

[Tom]

History will remember Obama for his incompetence and for his total failure in meddling in world affairs.

JAAC on the world stage. Just another ass clown who accomplished nothing of any value anywhere, other than entertain dimwits at home.

[davew]

When Trump tweated he was surveyed, anybody that was even remotely honest with themselves knew that it was true. The only one that thinks he wasn't, or denies he was is completely over the cliff.


Haven't you watched the news?

[woodtoo]

Haven't you watched the news?

That right there could be the problem.:rolleyes:

[chadk66]

Haven't you watched the news?define news :pound:

[Clocker]

define news :pound:
Private sector propaganda.

[chadk66]

Private sector propaganda.:lol:

[JustRalph]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Bastards! This is bigger than Watergate and the press is going to run to Obama's side

[chadk66]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Bastards! This is bigger than Watergate and the press is going to run to Obama's sideof course they are. they are no longer the press. they are card carrying members of the DNC

[PaceAdvantage]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Bastards! This is bigger than Watergate and the press is going to run to Obama's sideIf this is indeed true, the light of day will unmask all, despite the press' efforts...

[Hank]

When Trump tweated he was surveyed, anybody that was even remotely honest with themselves knew that it was true. The only one that thinks he wasn't, or denies he was is completely over the cliff.

Yes Of course, because believing a Donald Trump "TWEET" is the gold standard of intellectual virtue and integrity.

[JustRalph]

Yes Of course, because believing a Donald Trump "TWEET" is the gold standard of intellectual virtue and integrity.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/flashback-susan-rice-said-i-know-nothing-unmasking-trump-officials/

Believe this.......?

[Tom]

You poor bastards must be suffering from advanced Alzheimer's.

DEVIN NUNES.:lol::lol:


Two words for ya Hank....

Adam Housely :lol::lol::pound:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/03/susan-rice-requested-to-unmask-names-trump-transition-officials-sources-say.html

Multiple sources tell Fox News that Susan Rice, former national security adviser under then-President Barack Obama, requested to unmask the names of Trump transition officials caught up in surveillance.

The unmasked names, of people associated with Donald Trump, were then sent to all those at the National Security Council, some at the Defense Department, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and then-CIA Director John Brennan – essentially, the officials at the top, including former Rice deputy Ben Rhodes.

[NJ Stinks]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Bastards! This is bigger than Watergate and the press is going to run to Obama's side

Paul Revere you ain't. :rolleyes:

From the article you linked:

But Rice's multiple requests to learn the identities of Trump officials discussed in intelligence reports during the transition period does highlight a longstanding concern for civil liberties advocates about U.S. surveillance programs. The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice's unmasking requests were likely within the law.

[PaceAdvantage]

This suggests Rice's unmasking requests were likely within the law.Of course they were...and if they weren't, we'll all be told they were anyway...

[NJ Stinks]

Of course they were...and if they weren't, we'll all be told they were anyway...

Oh, I thought this was "bigger than Watergate...." :jump:

[Track Collector]

Paul Revere you ain't. :rolleyes:

From the article you linked:

But Rice's multiple requests to learn the identities of Trump officials discussed in intelligence reports during the transition period does highlight a longstanding concern for civil liberties advocates about U.S. surveillance programs. The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice's unmasking requests were likely within the law.

One thing that is definitely known is that someone illegally leaked those unmasked names to the public. What are your feelings about that matter, and how do you feel about the MSM pretty much refusing to cover that, instead choosing to deflect by focusing on lesser significance issues?

[NJ Stinks]

One thing that is definitely known is that someone illegally leaked those unmasked names to the public. What are your feelings about that matter, and how do you feel about the MSM pretty much refusing to cover that, instead choosing to deflect by focusing on lesser significance issues?

What names were leaked to the public?

[chadk66]

[QUOTE=Hank;2147546]Yes Of course, because believing a Donald Trump "TWEET" is the gold standard of intellectual virtue and integrity.[/QUOTEwell nobody in their right mind would have made that claim without knowing full well it was true. he played you guys like a cheap fiddle

[Track Collector]

What names were leaked to the public?

Michael Flynn

[JustRalph]

If you don't think Obama didn't read everyone of those "raw" transcripts you're a fool.

This is wholesale espionage by a sitting President against his political enemies by use of the government intelligence apparatus that he commands. Watergate is babyshit compared to this.

If Bush had done this.............

[NJ Stinks]

If you don't think Obama didn't read everyone of those "raw" transcripts you're a fool.

This is wholesale espionage by a sitting President against his political enemies by use of the government intelligence apparatus that he commands. Watergate is babyshit compared to this.

If Bush had done this.............

You either lack objectivity or you just don't care to be objective. Of course, Obama would want to find out if the guy who begged Russia to help him win the presidency actually offered anything in return.

But your dramatic statements are duly noted. :rolleyes:

[chadk66]

it's funny how the lefties have been playing all this. in the beginning it was "Trump is an idiot there was no surveillance". Then it was "Oh it was just a surveillance of a Russian Diplomat". And on and on right up to this point where they are still in denial and/or carrying the water for old Barrack. :lol:

[JustRalph]

"Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall,” he said."

Remember how sacred this wall was to Democrats during the 911 hearing?

“That’s a felony,” he told TheDCNF. “And you can get 10 years for that. It is a tremendous abuse of the system. We’re not supposed to be monitoring American citizens. Bigger than the crime, is the breach of public trust.

Waurishuk said he was most dismayed that “this is now using national intelligence assets and capabilities to spy on the elected, yet-to-be-seated president.”

“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting president. That takes on a new precedent.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/03/susan-rice-ordered-spy-agencies-to-produce-detailed-spreadsheets-involving-trump/#ixzz4dIF44DSK

[NJ Stinks]

"Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall,” he said."

Remember how sacred this wall was to Democrats during the 911 hearing?

“That’s a felony,” he told TheDCNF. “And you can get 10 years for that. It is a tremendous abuse of the system. We’re not supposed to be monitoring American citizens. Bigger than the crime, is the breach of public trust.

Waurishuk said he was most dismayed that “this is now using national intelligence assets and capabilities to spy on the elected, yet-to-be-seated president.”

“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting president. That takes on a new precedent.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/03/susan-rice-ordered-spy-agencies-to-produce-detailed-spreadsheets-involving-trump/#ixzz4dIF44DSK

That link changes nothing. Obama - like anybody who gives a damn about this country - wanted to find out what was being offered to the Russians to sway our presidential election. Or are we all supposed to be dumb enough to think Donny Boy just suddenly realized what a great guy Putin is? :rolleyes:

[delayjf]

wanted to find out what was being offered to the Russians to sway our presidential election.

Obviously he found nothing or we would have heard by now.

[NJ Stinks]

Obviously he found nothing or we would have heard by now.

Good luck with that.

[OntheRail]

That link changes nothing. Obama - like anybody who gives a damn about this country - wanted to find out what was being offered to the Russians to sway our presidential election. Or are we all supposed to be dumb enough to think Donny Boy just suddenly realized what a great guy Putin is? :rolleyes:

You are so full of sh*t no wonder Jersey stinks.

The whole Russian... narrative was a political hit job orchestrated by Obama... his handlers and Democratic sycophant. Spurred on by a complicite and corrupted media. Feeding the Dembots... brainless basement dwellers and campus critters a steady diet of fake news.

I will stand and applaud on the day those that are trying to sabotaged America for political revenge are prosecuted.

[NJ Stinks]

You are so full of sh*t no wonder Jersey stinks.

The whole Russian... narrative was a political hit job orchestrated by Obama... his handlers and Democratic sycophant. Spurred on by a complicite and corrupted media. Feeding the Dembots... brainless basement dwellers and campus critters a steady diet of fake news.

I will stand and applaud on the day those that are trying to sabotaged America for political revenge are prosecuted.

So you are good with Donny Boy suddenly praising the Russian leader. No reason for you to question anything, OfftheRails. :rolleyes:

I'm proud to say I'm from NJ. Where are you from?

[chadk66]

You are so full of sh*t no wonder Jersey stinks.

The whole Russian... narrative was a political hit job orchestrated by Obama... his handlers and Democratic sycophant. Spurred on by a complicite and corrupted media. Feeding the Dembots... brainless basement dwellers and campus critters a steady diet of fake news.

I will stand and applaud on the day those that are trying to sabotaged America for political revenge are prosecuted.that's exactly what will happen. we will find out that the Trump/Russia thing was a false narrative used to deflect attention off the beast.

[OntheRail]

So you are good with Donny Boy suddenly praising the Russian leader. No reason for you to question anything, OfftheRails. :rolleyes:

I'm proud to say I'm from NJ. Where are you from?

This praise you speak of... was it on the campaign trail... comparing Him against Weak Ass Obama. Or him mentioning it's in our interest to work with them to crush ISIS? We have many frenemies on the national stage. Funny tho when Barry was courting Putin along with Hillary with that Russian Reset... it was genius.

But now that the Republicans in charge the Russians are Freddy Krueger... living in the nightmares of snowflakes.


Well I don't live in the state of denial... :pound:

[davew]

Susan Rice is going to fall, who will she take with her?

[Track Collector]

Susan Rice is going to fall, who will she take with her?

Perhaps no one, but certainly not someone higher up.

If/When required to answer under oath, I think her response to many of the questions will be to plead the 5th. or she will simply refuse to answer. When considering her options, I think she will quickly come to the conclusion that the benefits of cooperating for a possible lesser punishment pale in comparison to avoiding a visit from Mr. Mayhem. :eek:

[chadk66]

Perhaps no one, but certainly not someone higher up.

If/When required to answer under oath, I think her response to many of the questions will be to plead the 5th. or she will simply refuse to answer. When considering her options, I think she will quickly come to the conclusion that the benefits of cooperating for a possible lesser punishment pale in comparison to avoiding a visit from Mr. Mayhem. :eek:that's what all the liberal ass hats do, plead the 5th

[davew]

that's what all the liberal ass hats do, plead the 5th

Congress needs to make a 5th cage, to let pleaders sit for a few months on public display.

[chadk66]

Congress needs to make a 5th cage, to let pleaders sit for a few months on public display.:headbanger:

[dkithore]

of course they are. they are no longer the press. they are card carrying members of the DNC:ThmbUp:

[PaceAdvantage]

That link changes nothing. Obama - like anybody who gives a damn about this country - wanted to find out what was being offered to the Russians to sway our presidential election. Or are we all supposed to be dumb enough to think Donny Boy just suddenly realized what a great guy Putin is? :rolleyes:Wow. Really? Talk about moving the goalposts.

I thought there was NO spying on Trump...or "tapping his wires" or whatever the hell Trump called it.

Are you saying Trump was correct? I think you are...

Now what are you going to do? Move the goal posts of course...now it was "justified" to find out what secrets he might be giving away to the Ruskies in return for their help?

And you call righties conspiracy nuts? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oh, Obama was just doing his job protecting the country from Russian plants like Trump...:lol::lol::lol::lol: :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

[Clocker]

Well I don't live in the state of denial... :pound:

If that state had electoral votes, Hillary would have won in a landslide.

[fast4522]

If that state had electoral votes, Hillary would have won in a landslide.

Thank God that deviant miscalculated enough to deny commies and socialists everything for decades.

[NJ Stinks]

Wow. Really? Talk about moving the goalposts.

I thought there was NO spying on Trump...or "tapping his wires" or whatever the hell Trump called it.

Are you saying Trump was correct? I think you are...

Now what are you going to do? Move the goal posts of course...now it was "justified" to find out what secrets he might be giving away to the Ruskies in return for their help?

And you call righties conspiracy nuts? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oh, Obama was just doing his job protecting the country from Russian plants like Trump...:lol::lol::lol::lol: :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

Not easy to do but almost every sentence above is incorrect. :ThmbUp:

Except this one: I do call righties conspiracy nuts on occasion.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks View Post
That link changes nothing. Obama - like anybody who gives a damn about this country - wanted to find out what was being offered to the Russians to sway our presidential election. Or are we all supposed to be dumb enough to think Donny Boy just suddenly realized what a great guy Putin is?

How can one person be so naive?
First of all, everyone KNOWS we listen in on the Russians.
Obama listened on everyone. but revealing the names of Americans caught in those evesdroppings is a crime. In this case, the use of the intelligence was only for political gains, not at all for the good of the country. Obama never did anything for the good of the country.

Oh, and after all this time, not one shred of evidence has ever been uncovered in that pipedream you losers are holding onto.
Putin did do a great thing - he revealed what lying bastards your side is. And yes, it affected the election. For the best interests of the country.

[JustRalph]

How can one person be so naive?
First of all, everyone KNOWS we listen in on the Russians.
Obama listened on everyone. but revealing the names of Americans caught in those evesdroppings is a crime. In this case, the use of the intelligence was only for political gains, not at all for the good of the country. Obama never did anything for the good of the country.

Oh, and after all this time, not one shred of evidence has ever been uncovered in that pipedream you losers are holding onto.
Putin did do a great thing - he revealed what lying bastards your side is. And yes, it affected the election. For the best interests of the country.

Perfect! Dead on!


Wow. Really? Talk about moving the goalposts.

I thought there was NO spying on Trump...or "tapping his wires" or whatever the hell Trump called it.

Are you saying Trump was correct? I think you are...

Now what are you going to do? Move the goal posts of course...now it was "justified" to find out what secrets he might be giving away to the Ruskies in return for their help?

And you call righties conspiracy nuts? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oh, Obama was just doing his job protecting the country from Russian plants like Trump...:lol::lol::lol::lol: :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

Great point on moving the goal posts. They'll keep moving too.

[JustRalph]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/05/reports-in-unmasking-controversy-were-detailed-had-info-about-everyday-lives.html

It's getting worse.

How far down into Trump's family did they go?

[JustRalph]

http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/05/why-susan-rices-role-in-the-trump-spying-scandal-is-a-big-deal/#.WOULeiiwkG4.twitter


"Yesterday, in a damage control interview with prominent Democratic journalist Andrea Mitchell, Rice admitted her unmasking efforts and said they were routine. Mitchell’s 16-minute interview involved no tough questions. Mitchell asked, “Did you seek to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition?” Rice responded in the Clintonian fashion, “Absolutely not for any political purposes.” A natural follow-up would have been if she requested the unmasking for any other purpose. It didn’t occur to Mitchell. Instead she followed-up with the related question, “Did you leak?” to which Rice responded, somewhat confusingly, “I leaked nothing to nobody.”

Somehow Rice tried to claim later that her initial statement of having no clue about Nunes’ earlier claim was not at odds with her 16-minute answer about her unmasking efforts.

Rice has a reputation for dishonesty, most notably for her claim that a September 11, 2012, attack in Libya that killed four Americans was a spontaneous result of anger at a video critical of Islam. At the time she said this, the State Department knew well that it was a coordinated terrorist attack.

Rice also falsely claimed that Bowe Bergdahl “served the United States with honor and distinction,” when critics began raising questions about why President Obama traded high-value Taliban detainees and a ransom for the Army deserter. Bergdahl is expected to face a court-martial in August for desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. His desertion was already known at the time Rice made her comments.

2) The Unmasking Was Related To Political Information
When Nunes first alerted the public about his concerns over the unmasking and dissemination, he noted that the information had nothing to do with Russia and had little to no intelligence value. Lake reported that Rice’s multiple unmasking requests were related to reports on Trump transition activities. She is said to have requested the identities of Americans in reports of monitored conversations between foreign officials discussing the Trump transition and in surveilled contact between the Trump team and monitored foreign officials."

“One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration,” according to Lake."

Much more at the link

[JustRalph]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-nsc-has-computer-logs-of-susan-rice-accessing-intelligence-on-trump-associates/article/2619242

Think she will roll over on her boss?

[davew]

apparently 0bama spying on people around they world is nothing new

https://thefederalist.com/2017/04/05/bombshell-obama-spying-scandal-started-long-trump/

[chadk66]

nothing to see here move along:rip: