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linrom1
03-20-2017, 12:52 PM
Where can one obtain pps for DWC race card on March 25, 2017? Does anyone know if exotics such as P-4 are available and what outfit provides parimutuel services?

Mr. Pick 5
03-20-2017, 09:38 PM
Where can one obtain pps for DWC race card on March 25, 2017? Does anyone know if exotics such as P-4 are available and what outfit provides parimutuel services?

To my knowledge only a few races have been drawn thus far and the biggest races are to be drawn wednesday....as far as wagering all of the adws as well as any betting facility that is open at that time should be taking bets...they usually have rolling doubles, p3s, and a pick 4 at the end...not sure if there is another pick 4 early on or not...there also has been a pick 6 in the past

In terms of pps im not sure maybe somebody else knows

Tom
03-20-2017, 09:43 PM
I think TVG said they will have PPs - TF maybe?

olddaddy
03-20-2017, 10:19 PM
Tvg and twinspires had pps for the carnival that came out the day before each card. I would expect the earliest for world cup pps to come out would be thursday.

nancy4487
03-22-2017, 09:40 AM
Here's the field for the 2017 Dubai World Cup:

1 Apollo Kentucky
2 Long River
3 Gold Dream
4 Lani
5 Gun Runner
6 Move Up
7 Awardee
8 Furia Cruzada
9 Arrogate
10 Keen Ice
11 Neolithic
12 Hoppertunity
13 Special Fighter
14 Mubtaahij

olddaddy
03-22-2017, 09:59 PM
PPs are up on twinspires.

VigorsTheGrey
03-22-2017, 11:59 PM
http://www.dubairacingclub.com/race/racing-info/racecards

cj
03-23-2017, 12:00 AM
I think TVG said they will have PPs - TF maybe?

We have them available.

VigorsTheGrey
03-23-2017, 12:16 AM
http://emiratesracing.com/node/5?id=2788#tab-10830

spiketoo
03-23-2017, 09:23 AM
Free BRIS

BRIS (http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/aff_brisrep.cgi/dub0325c.pdf?osadub0325c.pdf)

olddaddy
03-23-2017, 02:58 PM
Any form out there that shows the odds they went off at Dubai?

whodoyoulike
03-23-2017, 03:47 PM
Free BRIS

BRIS (http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/aff_brisrep.cgi/dub0325c.pdf?osadub0325c.pdf)


Interesting pp's.

How do they handicap using these?

cj
03-23-2017, 04:07 PM
Any form out there that shows the odds they went off at Dubai?


Don't think I've ever seen that in any PPs, foreign or domestic.

VigorsTheGrey
03-23-2017, 08:33 PM
I have been under the impression that there were no odds in Muslim countries as I thought gambling was banned, at least public gambling...do they even have a parimutuel method in use in Dubai..?

cj
03-23-2017, 10:46 PM
I have been under the impression that there were no odds in Muslim countries as I thought gambling was banned, at least public gambling...do they even have a parimutuel method in use in Dubai..?

No, but the races are bet on in other places, including the US, so that data has to be somewhere.

VigorsTheGrey
03-23-2017, 11:33 PM
No, but the races are bet on in other places, including the US, so that data has to be somewhere.

Who makes the morning line for World Cup day for odds shown on BRIS PP's...? Seems unlikely they would be created in the Miiddle East...A curious tidbit of racing info to research, I admit, of course, these kinds of facts always pique my interest, anyhow...

ultracapper
03-23-2017, 11:38 PM
Without even looking at the pps, I'll take #9 in the DWC.

Bennie
03-24-2017, 06:25 PM
just wondering if anyone has seen the TFUS figures yet and if they have pace figures for all the horses or are they like Bris where they only have the finish positions and comments? I have several horses I am looking at and would also like to play a pick 3/4 into the Arrogate race but if they only have blank spaces like some foreign horses have when running in the US then it would be a waste of time and money especially if I had to wager at least $10 to get my $3 credit back for downloading and printing the figs.
Thanks for any input.

cj
03-24-2017, 08:22 PM
just wondering if anyone has seen the TFUS figures yet and if they have pace figures for all the horses or are they like Bris where they only have the finish positions and comments? I have several horses I am looking at and would also like to play a pick 3/4 into the Arrogate race but if they only have blank spaces like some foreign horses have when running in the US then it would be a waste of time and money especially if I had to wager at least $10 to get my $3 credit back for downloading and printing the figs.
Thanks for any input.


There are no pace figures for foreign horses. They don't give sectionals as part of the standard data feed. What you do get is VERY detailed comments from Timeform on every race for the foreign horses. Here is an example from the last race of the 1 horse in the 3rd race.

Waquoit
03-24-2017, 08:27 PM
I thought they didn't bet in Dubai

horses4courses
03-24-2017, 09:29 PM
I thought they didn't bet in Dubai

Trick answer: Go to the west end of the
grandstand at Meydan, and ask for Ahmed. ;)


You're right. There is no gambling there.
I don't know how strictly the ban is enforced,
because millions throughout Europe and around
the world, can easily bet with a few clicks of a
phone - as long as they have the means to fund
an account. Easy as pie.......:ThmbUp:

EasyGoer89
03-24-2017, 09:40 PM
14 horse field in the 'cup' and no show wagering in USA pools? Did I see that right?

cj
03-24-2017, 10:15 PM
14 horse field in the 'cup' and no show wagering in USA pools? Did I see that right?

Place betting is usually show betting overseas, you get paid for 1-2-3. If the field is too small then it is only 1-2. I don't remember the field size cutoff.

http://www.paddypower.com/popup/img/placeBetting-paddy-power.html

WP1981
03-25-2017, 02:01 AM
Place betting is usually show betting overseas, you get paid for 1-2-3. If the field is too small then it is only 1-2. I don't remember the field size cutoff.

http://www.paddypower.com/popup/img/placeBetting-paddy-power.html

The cutoff is 7 or less runners. Been playing a lot of euro and irish races lately.

EasyGoer89
03-25-2017, 02:40 AM
Place betting is usually show betting overseas, you get paid for 1-2-3. If the field is too small then it is only 1-2. I don't remember the field size cutoff.

http://www.paddypower.com/popup/img/placeBetting-paddy-power.html

Thanks.

Nitro
03-25-2017, 04:11 AM
There are no pace figures for foreign horses. They don't give sectionals as part of the standard data feed. What you do get is VERY detailed comments from Timeform on every race for the foreign horses. Here is an example from the last race of the 1 horse in the 3rd race.

A Typical (Free) Form Guide listing for a horses racing in Hong Kong.
They Certainly Look like "Sectionals" to me.(Scroll to the Right ------>)

1 WINNER'S WAY (5) 1080 131 M CHADWICK A S CRUZ Age: 4
19/02/2017 28 ST "A" 1800 G-F 9 1086 126 M Chadwick 10 / 13 102 13.93 21.35 24.38 24.62 24.11
Pace Good-Slow(+)(1W1W) urged to lead 1L, one paced up rail, passed 3, weakened 150.

22/01/2017 14 ST "A" 1600 G 12 1095 126 M Chadwick 4 / 14 111 25.07 23.38 24.30 22.79
Pace Good-Slow(+)(2W2W) crowd start, urged 1L off pace, over-raced 11, no cover, kept on well inside.

08/01/2017 28 ST "C" 1600 G-F 11 1094 120 M Chadwick 4 / 14 104 25.27 23.40 23.16 22.66
Pace Slow(+)(3W3W) pushed 1L off pace, no cover, kept on well inside, just missed place.

11/12/2016 21 ST "A" 1400 G 1 1096 132 M Chadwick 1 / 14 105 13.73 22.55 22.86 23.02
Pace Good-Slow(+)(1W2W) sat 3L off pace, ran on strongly inside, battled 3-0, just won.

20/11/2016 14 ST "B+2" 1400 G 9 1100 129 M Chadwick 2 / 14 100 14.49 22.61 22.83 22.02
Pace Good-Slow(-)(2W2W) settled 7L off pace, shifted out 3, dashed well mid track, no match with winner.

06/11/2016 0 ST "C+3" 1400 G-F 7 1111 128 M Chadwick 1 / 14 100 14.19 22.14 23.23 22.68
Pace Good-Slow; (1W1W) pushed 5L off pace, dashed on well mid track and won.

cj
03-25-2017, 09:36 AM
A Typical (Free) Form Guide listing for a horses racing in Hong Kong.
They Certainly Look like "Sectionals" to me.(Scroll to the Right ------>)

1 WINNER'S WAY (5) 1080 131 M CHADWICK A S CRUZ Age: 4
19/02/2017 28 ST "A" 1800 G-F 9 1086 126 M Chadwick 10 / 13 102 13.93 21.35 24.38 24.62 24.11
Pace Good-Slow(+)(1W1W) urged to lead 1L, one paced up rail, passed 3, weakened 150.

22/01/2017 14 ST "A" 1600 G 12 1095 126 M Chadwick 4 / 14 111 25.07 23.38 24.30 22.79
Pace Good-Slow(+)(2W2W) crowd start, urged 1L off pace, over-raced 11, no cover, kept on well inside.

08/01/2017 28 ST "C" 1600 G-F 11 1094 120 M Chadwick 4 / 14 104 25.27 23.40 23.16 22.66
Pace Slow(+)(3W3W) pushed 1L off pace, no cover, kept on well inside, just missed place.

11/12/2016 21 ST "A" 1400 G 1 1096 132 M Chadwick 1 / 14 105 13.73 22.55 22.86 23.02
Pace Good-Slow(+)(1W2W) sat 3L off pace, ran on strongly inside, battled 3-0, just won.

20/11/2016 14 ST "B+2" 1400 G 9 1100 129 M Chadwick 2 / 14 100 14.49 22.61 22.83 22.02
Pace Good-Slow(-)(2W2W) settled 7L off pace, shifted out 3, dashed well mid track, no match with winner.

06/11/2016 0 ST "C+3" 1400 G-F 7 1111 128 M Chadwick 1 / 14 100 14.19 22.14 23.23 22.68
Pace Good-Slow; (1W1W) pushed 5L off pace, dashed on well mid track and won.



Yeah, I know. But those aren't included in the data feed to the best of my knowledge. Many of the tracks in Europe have sectionals as well, but that doesn't mean they are included in the PP data.

Reading is fundamental.

EasyGoer89
03-25-2017, 04:46 PM
Unfortunately, for fans of American racing who live in the USA, you're forced to bet against other Americans who only want to bet USA based horses.

thespaah
03-26-2017, 02:33 PM
Where's the chart?

cj
03-26-2017, 02:45 PM
Where's the chart?


Search Trakus Meydan.

thespaah
03-26-2017, 03:15 PM
Search Trakus Meydan.

Thanks!