Australian Card - Value Bets / Longshots - First Race Goes off at 10:12 PM EST

[georgetkingiv]

I like to try to be a versatile horseplayer so let's now try our hand at picking some longshots. I will be posting two selections per race. You can play these two selections however you see fit.

Good luck.:popcorn:

[Nitro]

I haven’t tried analyzing the money flow from the racing in Australia recently.
So I’m going to give it shot tonight.
My tote analysis is locked and loaded for:
A– Morphittville / B– Mooney Valley & C– Hawkesbury
Let’s see how it goes.

My game is a bit different:
I'm not looking for individual Winners.
I'm looking for Winning plays!

Just so that there’s misunderstanding, I post my best selections for each race at about 4 minutes to post. They're all based on a real time tote analysis.
I’m not posting bets!

My top 2 selections are my Keys. They can be played individually or Dutched if the value is there. I will also use them as Keys in Exactas, Tri’s and Supers.
Keying entries in exotics means that they have to at least be in the money with the other picks. I may not even be playing a race if it doesn’t offer any value.

Yes, contrary to the trend around here I’ll even post my results; Win or Lose

I know it might be difficult for some to understand, but the winning results I post are the potential returns for those types of bets had they been made. I don’t make every bet and I certainly don’t play every race.

Good luck if you’re playing

[smokinjoe@bp]

best of luck people

[georgetkingiv]

Australia A Morphettville: Race 1

:1: & :9:

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#1 - 4-3 W/ 1-9-5 @ 4mins to post

[georgetkingiv]

I haven’t tried analyzing the money flow from the racing in Australia recently.
So I’m going to give it shot tonight.
My tote analysis is locked and loaded for:
A– Morphittville / B– Mooney Valley & C– Hawkesbury
Let’s see how it goes.

My game is a bit different:
I'm not looking for individual Winners.
I'm looking for Winning plays!

Just so that there’s misunderstanding, I post my best selections for each race at about 4 minutes to post. They're all based on a real time tote analysis.
I’m not posting bets!

My top 2 selections are my Keys. They can be played individually or Dutched if the value is there. I will also use them as Keys in Exactas, Tri’s and Supers.
Keying entries in exotics means that they have to at least be in the money with the other picks. I may not even be playing a race if it doesn’t offer any value.

Yes, contrary to the trend around here I’ll even post my results; Win or Lose

I know it might be difficult for some to understand, but the winning results I post are the potential returns for those types of bets had they been made. I don’t make every bet and I certainly don’t play every race.

Good luck if you’re playing

This is a value bet / longshot thread where the intention is to pick 1 to 2 value selections but whatever floats your boat Nitro. ;)

Good luck. :ThmbUp:

[georgetkingiv]

best of luck people

Hey Joe,

Good luck to you as well. :ThmbUp:

[georgetkingiv]

Australia B Moonee Valley: Race 1

:5: & :8:

[Nitro]

This is a value bet / longshot thread where the intention is to pick 1 to 2 value selections but whatever floats your boat Nitro. ;)

Good luck. :ThmbUp:

My Exotic returns can make a single LS return look paltry by comparison.

GL to you also.

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#1 - 4-6 W/ 8-2-10 @ 4mins to post

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#1 - 4-3 W/ 1-9-5 @ 4mins to post
Results:

R #1 = 2-9-1-8 – Nothing in that one - No action on the LS Winner

[georgetkingiv]

Australia C Hawkesbury: Race 1

:1: & :4:

[Nitro]

C – Hawkesbury

R#1 - 2-6 W/ 1-5 @ 3mins to post

[georgetkingiv]

My Exotic returns can make a single LS return look paltry by comparison.

GL to you also.

While that may be the case the same can be said for any exotic play. I think the point I was trying to make was this is specifically a thread for posting value bets / longshots hence the title. :)

[georgetkingiv]

Australia A Morphettville: Race 2

:1: & :8:

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#2 – 5-3 W/ 9-8-7 @ 3mins to post

[georgetkingiv]

Australia A Morphettville: Race 1

:1: & :9:

:9: Paid $7.20 to place and $4.80 to show.

:1: Showed and paid short money.

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#1 - 4-6 W/ 8-2-10 @ 4mins to post
Results:

R #2 = 5-8-2-10 – Nothing in that one - Winner took lots of late action.

[georgetkingiv]

Australia B Moonee Valley: Race 1

:5: & :8:

:5: Paid $7.60 to win, $4.40 to place, and $3,60 to show.

:8: Paid $4.80 to place and $3.70 to show.

The :5: over :8: exacta paid $34.50 on a $2 exacta wager.

[Racetrack Playa]

Moonee 2B
:11:Peninsula Miss
:6::14::9:

[Nitro]

:5: Paid $7.60 to win, $4.40 to place, and $3,60 to show.

:8: Paid $4.80 to place and $3.70 to show.

The :5: over :8: exacta paid $34.50 on a $2 exacta wager.While that may be the case the same can be said for any exotic play. I think the point I was trying to make was this is specifically a thread for posting value bets / longshots hence the title. :)
So that's you're idea of a value/LS play?
And BTW why even mention the Exacta if that's not your intention for this thread?

[georgetkingiv]

Australia B Moonee Valley: Race 2

:1: & :9:

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#2 – 6-1 W/ 9-3-4 @ 3mins to post

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#2 – 5-3 W/ 9-8-7 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #2 = 3-2-9-5 – WIN – No action on the LS Placer

$2.00 WIN – 3 - $20.90

[georgetkingiv]

So that's you're idea of a value/LS play?
And BTW why even mention the Exacta if that's not your intention for this thread?

Nitro the first part of your comment is clearly not worth responding to. And as far as the second part you are clearly not familiar with the standard operating procedure in regards to longshots threads around here. The modus operandi is to post either one or two value selections. It is up to the players to choose how they play the selections. Whether that be a win, place, show, or exacta bet. That is why I start off the first post of this thread by stating I will be posting two selections per race which you are free to play however you see fit.

Are you done? Can we just play now? Or?

[Racetrack Playa]

So that's you're idea of a value/LS play?
And BTW why even mention the Exacta if that's not your intention for this thread?
Hey Dude Nitro, He posted 2 horse they came 1,2 , that is good value
BANG exacta
Nice Pickin GK4:)

[georgetkingiv]

Australia C Hawkesbury: Race 2

:4: & :11:

[Nitro]

Nitro the first part of your comment is clearly not worth responding to. And as far as the second part you are clearly not familiar with the standard operating procedure in regards to longshots threads around here. The modus operandi is to post either one or two value selections. It is up to the players to choose how they play the selections. Whether that be a win, place, show, or exacta bet. That is why I start off the first post of this thread by stating I will be posting two selections per race which you are free to play however you see fit.

Are you done? Can we just play now? Or?

Thanks for your contradictory explanation. Unfortunately it doesn't cut it. But nice try!
Carry on!

[georgetkingiv]

Hey Dude Nitro, He posted 2 horse they came 1,2 , that is good value
BANG exacta
Nice Pickin GK4:)

Thx Playa.

[Racetrack Playa]

2C Hawkesbury
:1: Sunnic King
:11: Elusive Filly

[Nitro]

C – Hawkesbury

R#2 – 8-4 W/ 9 -12-14 @ 3mins to post

[georgetkingiv]

Thanks for your contradictory explanation. Unfortunately it doesn't cut it. But nice try!
Carry on!

:rolleyes:

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#3 – 4-8 W/ 9-6-2 @ 3mins to post

[georgetkingiv]

Australia A Morphettville: Race 3

:2: & :9:

[Racetrack Playa]

#3a Morphetteville
:5: Khitaamy
:2: Eclair Sunshine

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#2 – 6-1 W/ 9-3-4 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #2 = 3-6-9-1 – EX – TRI – SUPER BX :ThmbUp:

$2.00 EXACTA – 3-6 - $54.60
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 3-6-9 - $202.30
$2.00 SUPER – 3-6-9-1 - $683.50

[Racetrack Playa]

3b Moonee
:2: Poppiholla
:5: Tessabelle

[georgetkingiv]

Australia B Moonee Valley: Race 3

:5: & :6:

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#3 – 7-9 W/ 5-2-6 @ 3mins to post

[Unicorn]

Results:

R #2 = 3-6-9-1 – EX – TRI – SUPER BX :ThmbUp:

$2.00 EXACTA – 3-6 - $54.60
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 3-6-9 - $202.30
$2.00 SUPER – 3-6-9-1 - $683.50

I still dont see who on God's earth would invest that sort of $ on one race. First you post like 5 horses and you key them up everway possible and in the end claim to collect. If you are not betting these selections, why even post them? Im sure most of the handicappers on here would not even bother with it.

[Unicorn]

Plus to top it off you are putting $2 payoffs. :lol:

[Nitro]

C – Hawkesbury

R#1 - 2-6 W/ 1-5 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #1 = 2-6-4-5 – WIN – EX Cold.

$2.00 WIN – 2 - $2.40
$2.00 EXACTA – 2-6 - $9.60

[Nitro]

C – Hawkesbury

R#2 – 8-4 W/ 9 -12-14 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #2 = 8-13-9-12 – WIN

$2.00 WIN – 8 - $7.00

[georgetkingiv]

Australia A Morphettville: Race 3

:2: & :9:

:9: Paid $6.00 to win, $3.80 to place, and $2.70.

Hardly a longshot but in my defense they bet him down to whatever he went off at in the last few minutes.:rant:

[Nitro]

I still dont see who on God's earth would invest that sort of $ on one race. First you post like 5 horses and you key them up everway possible and in the end claim to collect. If you are not betting these selections, why even post them? Im sure most of the handicappers on here would not even bother with it.
So you're saying that if someone just boxed those top 4 selections for a $2 Super box for $48 that it wasn't worth a bet? Or maybe Keying 1 of those top picks that wasn't worth a simple bet?
I beg to differ friend!

Just because someone isn't familiar with structuring an Exotic bet doesn't mean someone else is! :bang:

[Racetrack Playa]

Hawkesbury 3c
:9: Rispetta
:3: Quiet Unexpected

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#3 – 4-8 W/ 9-6-2 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #3 = 9-1-8-3 – Nothing in that one - Both keys failed to get a piece

[georgetkingiv]

Australia C Hawkesbury: Race 3

:7: & :8:

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#3 – 7-9 W/ 5-2-6 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #3 = 7-6-2-1 - WIN – EX – TRI BX

$2.00 WIN – 7 - $3.40
$2.00 EXACTA – 7-6 - $11.90
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 7-6-2 - $43.70

[Unicorn]

From my guess you are playing your top two selections wps. Then keying your exactas, trifectas, and supers every which way. Doesn't make any sense to me how you can play all these races? Even with the way you structure your bets, it is very pricey.

[Nitro]

C – Hawkesbury

R#3 – 4-6 W/ 3-7-8 @ 3mins to post

[Nitro]

From my guess you are playing your top two selections wps. Then keying your exactas, trifectas, and supers every which way. Doesn't make any sense to me how you can play all these races? Even with the way you structure your bets, it is very pricey.
I think you should take a moment and read my comment (#2) on page 1 of this thread.

BTW I NEVER play Place or Show. Win Dutching is much more profitable!

[Unicorn]

R4 AUA # :11: Just A Bigger Dash

[Racetrack Playa]

Morphettville 4a
:6: Enki
:4: So to You

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#4 - 9-8 W/ 3-1-2 @ 3mins to post

[Unicorn]

I think you should take a moment and read my comment (#2) on page 1 of this thread.

BTW I NEVER play Place or Show. Win Dutching is much more profitable!

Lol yeah it's very profitable when most of your selections didn't turn a profit. :p

[georgetkingiv]

Australia A Morphettville: Race 4

:2: & :3:

[Racetrack Playa]

Moonee 4b
:10: Shaanxi City
:9: Belle Du Sud

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#4 - 5 - 8 W/ 1-7-9 @ 3mins to post

[Unicorn]

R4 AUB # :2: Bewildering

[Nitro]

Lol yeah it's very profitable when most of your selections didn't turn a profit. :p
Keep Dreaming buddy! :sleeping:
You don't have a clue about how I play or how profitable I am. ;)

[Racetrack Playa]

Keep Dreaming buddy! :sleeping:
You don't have a clue about how I play or how profitable I am. ;)
Why you being a jerk Nitro?:ThmbDown:

[georgetkingiv]

Lol yeah it's very profitable when most of your selections didn't turn a profit. :p

But not only that and not to proverbially throw Nitro under the bus. But I see him sometimes post what he terms "others of interest" in his selection threads which are essentially alternative selections. That would be no big deal however when his initial posted selections fail he hot swaps in one of his "others of interest" and then claims an exotic involving that "other of interest". That gives him however many chances to get the order of finish right. That is not only very expensive to play all those different combination of runners but it is also kind of cheesy. I mean you are already playing with two keys and however many runners on the back end.

That is just my two cents.

[Nitro]

C – Hawkesbury

R#3 – 4-6 W/ 3-7-8 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #3 = 6-4-7-1-5 – WIN – EX – TRI BX

$2.00 WIN –6 - $5.40
$2.00 EXACTA – 6-4 - $12.30
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 6-4-7 - $30.70

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#4 - 5 - 8 W/ 1-7-9 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #5 = 5-11-7-8 - WIN

$2.00 WIN – 5 - $4.00

[Unicorn]

Results:

R #3 = 6-4-7-1-5 – WIN – EX – TRI BX

$2.00 WIN –6 - $5.40
$2.00 EXACTA – 6-4 - $12.30
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 6-4-7 - $30.70

For example I see plenty of posts like this. This is by no means a profit with the way he is playing.

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#4 - 9-8 W/ 3-1-2 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #4 = 10-12-4-11 – Nothing in that one - Both keys failed to get a piece

[Unicorn]

R4 AUC # :8: Ankara Lass

[georgetkingiv]

Well I Am going to post one more then I am calling it a night. Good luck everybody. :ThmbUp:

[Racetrack Playa]

4c Hawkesbury
:4: Fight For Glory
:6:Il Dominatore

[georgetkingiv]

Australia B Moonee Valley: Race 5

:7: & :8:

[Nitro]

But not only that and not to proverbially throw Nitro under the bus. But I see him sometimes post what he terms "others of interest" in his selection threads which are essentially alternative selections. That would be no big deal however when his initial posted selections fail he hot swaps in one of his "others of interest" and then claims an exotic involving that "other of interest". That gives him however many chances to get the order of finish right. That is not only very expensive to play all those different combination of runners but it is also kind of cheesy. I mean you are already playing with two keys and however many runners on the back end.

That is just my two cents.
And your comment is worth just about that much!

Apparently you don't know how to comprehend the written word. If you did, you'd understand "what other's of interest" ACTUALLY MEANS!
I know sometimes my explanations are extremely difficult to understand, but if you take the time (maybe read them twice) you'd know how important the Live Tote board activities are when considering those "other's of interest". But since you fail to understand how the live money movement affects anything how could you possibly appreciate the necessity to make alterations prior to making a bet!:bang:

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#5 – 1-7 W/ 8-9-2 @ 3mins to post

[Unicorn]

:pound:And your comment is worth just about that much!

Apparently you don't know how to comprehend the written word. If you did, you'd understand "what other's of interest" ACTUALLY MEANS!
I know sometimes my explanations are extremely difficult to understand, but if you take the time (maybe read them twice) you'd know how important the Live Tote board activities are when considering those "other's of interest". But since you fail to understand how the live money movement affects anything how could you possibly appreciate the necessity to make alterations prior to making a bet!:bang:

[Racetrack Playa]

5B moonee
:12: Rastafarian
:3: Kazio

:sleeping:goodnight GK$

[Unicorn]

R5 AUB # :2: Liberty Song

[Unicorn]

R5 AUA # :10: Niccoco

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#5 – 4-3 W/ 2-7-9 @ 3mins to post

[Racetrack Playa]

5A
:9: Cocoa Doll
:2::8::5:

[Unicorn]

R4 AUC # :8: Ankara Lass

Place $9.40 Show $4.40

[Nitro]

Well I Am going to post one more then I am calling it a night. Good luck everybody. :ThmbUp:

Sounds like a good idea! Unfortunately the betting pools in Australia aren't co-mingled with those in the U.S. and those here seem a bit skewed when comparing them to the actual pools in Australia. Now I remember why I shy away from Aussy racing.

Have a good night!

[Racetrack Playa]

Place $9.40 Show $4.40
Was really Flying Late:ThmbUp:

[Racetrack Playa]

Sounds like a good idea! Unfortunately the betting pools in Australia aren't co-mingled with those in the U.S. and those here seem a bit skewed when comparing them to the actual pools in Australia. Now I remember why I shy away from Aussy racing.

Have a good night!
Yes the pools are quite small aren't they Nitro, stay classy:rolleyes:

[Nitro]

B – Mooney Valley

R#5 – 1-7 W/ 8-9-2 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #5 = 1-10-3-9 - WIN

$2.00 WIN – 1 - $8.60

[Nitro]

A – Morphittville

R#5 – 4-3 W/ 2-7-9 @ 3mins to post
Results:

R #5 = 3-5-9-4 – WIN

$2.00 WIN – 3 - $7.30