NTRA NATIONAL HANDICAPPING VEGAS

[stuball]

Does anyone have the live feed from vegas tournament??
I have a friend in it....
:ThmbUp:

[Tom]

I think Steve Byk is covering live this weekend.
He is going to be interviewing players throughout the day.

[upthecreek]

Theyre posting updates on Twitter and updating the leaderboard on NTRA.com That's all I found

[BCOURTNEY]

No live video coverage? Amazing.

[upthecreek]

NTRA (@NTRA) tweeted at 5:07 PM on Fri, Jan 27, 2017:
#NHC18 LUXAIR Jets Leaderboard Update after Mandatory 5 https://t.co/TUw7g223qS
(https://twitter.com/NTRA/status/825103053078491140?s=09)

[no breathalyzer]

anyone have the list of mandatory races for tomorrow?

[upthecreek]

anyone have the list of mandatory races for tomorrow?
To the left is a list of mandatory races(still listing Fridays)






https://www.ntra.com/

[upthecreek]

Does anyone have the live feed from vegas tournament??
I have a friend in it....
:ThmbUp:
It says its being carried by RTN

[PIC6SIX]

GP-7th,11TH,12th; SA2nd,7th,10th; AQ8th; LRL9th. That should about do it. Good luck. Mandatory races for Saturday 1/28/2017.

[EasyGoer89]

Lots of good chatter from previous winners Beychok and Matties.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BeychokRacing

https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulMattiesJr

[ArlJim78]

My first time doing this, had roughly 4 hours sleep last three nights.
first day totals ($46,$42) need a huge boost tomorrow to have a prayer.
looks like another all nighter.

[bruin95]

Does anybody have the list for the mandatory races for today (Friday)? Missed them when they posted on the NTRA site.

[ReplayRandall]

NHC 18 Mandatory Races – Friday, January 27

Track and Race #, Post time (PT)

Aqueduct 4, 10:50 a.m.

Tampa Bay 6, 12:26 p.m.

Fair Grounds 4, 12:46 p.m.

Oaklawn 5, 1:19 p.m.

Gulfstream 9, 1:32 p.m.

Oaklawn 8, 2:42 p.m.

Santa Anita 7, 4:00 p.m.

Santa Anita 8, 4:30 p.m.

[ReplayRandall]

Here are the top 66 players in the NHC after Day 1- The top 66 after day 2 will cash and move on to the semi-finals:

1-Pat Nufrio-188.7
2TChris Larmey-168
2TThomas O'Connor-168
4Chris Olsson-167.7
5Stephen Wolfson Jr.-148.3
6Thomas Reed-148.1
7David Lam-146.9
8Harlan Malter-140
9Michael Ray-133.2
10Stephen McNatton-132.5
11Michael Goodrich-129.7

12Greg DuBos-129.4
13Steve Hartshorn-125.8
14Bobby Shoemaker-124.8
15Kevin Willett-124.1
16Sam Alipio-123.6
17TJohn Nichols-123.1
17TEugene Spruck-123.1
19Michael Pruzinsky-123
20Ken Seeman-121.2
21Michael Caposio-120.8
22Mark Waggoner-120.5
23Dan Flanigan-120.3
24TKevin Engelhard-120.1
24TDan Hartmann-120.1
24TMatthew Rentze-120.1
27Mitch Schuman-119.2
28George Duarte-118.8
29TDavid Conover-118.6
29TPaul Weizer-118.6
31Paul Shurman-117.8
32TJonathon Kinchen-117.5
32TAllan Sadler-117.5
34Paul Scott-117
35John Garofano Jr.-116.4
36Paul Hughes-116.3
37Dennis Johnson-115.5
38John Smith-115.3
39TSam Alipio-114.8
39TRyan Scharnowske-114.8
41John Osterbauer-114.3
42Richard Garcia-113.7
43Joe Jarvie-113.4
44Bobby Shoemaker-113
45Frank Gryboski Jr.-112.7
46Basil Devito-112.4
47Nick Fazzolari-112.3
48Linda Rodriguez-112
49Stephen Young-111.8
50Wendy Long-111.4
51Albert Wong-111
52Ellen Patrick-110.2
53Richard Ryan-109.8
54Nisan Gabbay-109.6
55TLouis Filoso-109.4
55TMark Streiff-109.4
57Anthony Altomonte-109.1
58TDan Kaplan-108.8
58TRobert Gilbert-108.8
60Robin Buser-108.3
61Kevin Jones-108
62Dan Kovalesky-107.8
63Timothy Downs-107.6
64Sheldon Usprech-107.1
65Ron Tackett-106.8
66Robert Skotz-106.2

[ReplayRandall]

NHC 18 Mandatory Races – Saturday, January 28

Track and Race #, Post time (ET)

1 Gulfstream Park #7 -2:32 PM

2 Santa Anita #2 -3:15 PM

3 Aqueduct #8 -3:50 PM

4 Laurel Park #9 -4:30 PM

5 Gulfstream Park #11 -4:50 PM

(https://horsetourneys.com/picks/182064/event/5) 6 Gulfstream Park #12 -5:40 PM

(https://horsetourneys.com/picks/182064/event/6) 7 Santa Anita #7 - 6:12 PM

(https://horsetourneys.com/picks/182064/event/7) 8 Santa Anita #10 -7:48 PM
(https://horsetourneys.com/picks/182064/event/8)

[ultracapper]

Are any of the 'cappers listed in post 14 known to be PA members/contributors?

[NorCalGreg]

Hmmmm...a guy named Pat recently purchased my program---I see a "Pat" on top of the leaderboard.....coincidence?

[upthecreek]

http://liveitupchallenge.com/index.php

[PIC6SIX]

Day II and DRF dropped the ball again. No player interviews or leaderboard updates. No live camera scenes from the conference room showing cappers yelling and leaderboard views.

[BCOURTNEY]

Day II and DRF dropped the ball again. No player interviews or leaderboard updates. No live camera scenes from the conference room showing cappers yelling and leaderboard views.

The coverage provided is woefully inadequate. How are they marketing themselves when they don't cover the year's largest event. How do you convince an organization that should be promoting themselves to get it together and do so?

[tophatmert]

Best of luck to an old Chicago friend Frank Mustari who starts the day in third.

[ReplayRandall]

NHC 18 - Final Table

1 Ray Arsenault- 320.7

2 Dan Kovalesky- 287.1

3 Ryan Scharnowske - 279

4 Stephen Wolfson, Jr.- 276.9

5 Joe Jarvie- 274.3

6 Frank Mustari- 272.8

7 David Bernal- 267

8 Louis Filoso- 266.7

9 Steve Hartshorn- 266.6

10 Michael Caposio- 265.4

[ReplayRandall]

Arsenault Wins National Handicapping Championship

Here's the final race and victory speech:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1OdKrejyPDpxX?t=29

https://www.ntra.com/arsenault-wins-national-handicapping-championship/

[Mulerider]

Hmmmm...a guy named Pat recently purchased my program---I see a "Pat" on top of the leaderboard.....coincidence?

Greg, at the 5:47 mark in the first link that Randall included in post #23, Mr. Arsenault credits Black Magic software for his win. Just think how he'd have demolished the field with Pace-View!

[ReplayRandall]

Greg, at the 5:47 mark in the first link that Randall included in post #23, Mr. Arsenault credits Black Magic software for his win. Just think how he'd have demolished the field with Pace-View!
It's interesting that John O'Neil, who won the NHC two years ago, also uses Black Magic. However, he qualified for this year's NHC and didn't cash, yet the winner Ray Arsenault uses the same program and wins it all. It just goes to show you that no matter what data, program or tools you use, it's how you interpret the data in that specific time period....

[NorCalGreg]

Greg, at the 5:47 mark in the first link that Randall included in post #23, Mr. Arsenault credits Black Magic software for his win. Just think how he'd have demolished the field with Pace-View!


haha...I got an email from a Pace-View user..HE WAS THERE!.....

He wasn't actually in the tournament, though....just showed up to watch :D

[Speed Figure]

Was there a data file that contains all the races in one file?

[bruin95]

Only the Top Ten get paid?

[bruin95]

It's interesting that John O'Neil, who won the NHC two years ago, also uses Black Magic. However, he qualified for this year's NHC and didn't cash, yet the winner Ray Arsenault uses the same program and wins it all. It just goes to show you that no matter what data, program or tools you use, it's how you interpret the data in that specific time period....

You have to figure that the winner wasn't the only one using that software. I've seen videos for demos of that software. Looks too complicated for me. :D

[ReplayRandall]

Only the Top Ten get paid?
Top 66 get paid a minimum of $5,000...

https://twitter.com/Vukman/status/825753178746400768

[AltonKelsey]

You have to figure that the winner wasn't the only one using that software. I've seen videos for demos of that software. Looks too complicated for me. :D

It's a complicated game. The real skill in horseplay is seeing past all the noise and focusing in on the 1 or 2 things that REALLY matter TODAY. Hard to do. Even harder to do consistently.

[Parkview_Pirate]

Made it to the NHC for the first time this year, concentrating on the "feeders" to get in a qualifying round during a hot week. Didn't even enter a tournament for five or six years prior, but the feeders make for an economical approach, and you can wait for the time of year when your favorite tracks are running.

Great time. Crowded, with over 660 entries and about 550 players or so, but only got shut out once when I tried to get a last-second change in and the horse had jumped from 5-1 to 9-1 (ran second). I did okay Friday, but ran out of gas on Saturday trying to keep up - plus I came down with a nasty bug that knocked me sideways all this week. Finished in the upper 3rd in the consolation tournament, but no dough. If you qualify though, it's a pretty sweet deal - four free nights at TI, $1000 travel, a $100 chip for a horse bet, a hat, some vodka and a few other trinkets. Met some great guys. One gent at my table cashed in the consolation tourney Sunday morning, and another cashed on a 100-1 bet on Arsenault to win the tournament.

I believe there were two "cappers" each day, and I know Arsenault caught one at 50-1 on Saturday to begin his surge. Played along with the final table races on Sunday afternoon and cashed a couple races to get back some losses from the first two days.

I'll be trying to get again this year. You just need to get qualified, and then hope a "cluster" of nicely priced horses run for you during the tourney....

[MonmouthParkJoe]

I was out there for the second year in a row, but not to play rather to cover it. Always a good time, and might try to qualify one year. I think the NTRA does a good job, food was decent, and it is always fun to be in a whole room full of horse racing people. Lots of characters there :D

[Red Knave]

Are any of the 'cappers listed in post 14 known to be PA members/contributors?
Congratulations to our own Immanuel Kant, a previous HOTY here at PA, who finished 11th. Awesome tournament for him.

He's now touring the American Southwest with his ever-lovin' spouse for a few weeks.

All the best from all of us at PA.

[bruin95]

If you qualify though, it's a pretty sweet deal - four free nights at TI, $1000 travel, a $100 chip for a horse bet, a hat, some vodka and a few other trinkets.

I always wondered what they would give you, if you're someone like me, who already lives in Vegas, and does not need to travel to the event.

It's super hard for me to even qualify for this tournament because the contest sites that run all the qualifiers don't allow Nevada residents to deposit money in an account to pay for the tournaments. We're stuck playing the free ones where you're up against 2000+ contestants vying for 3 or 4 NHC seats.

[Si2see]

I always wondered what they would give you, if you're someone like me, who already lives in Vegas, and does not need to travel to the event.

It's super hard for me to even qualify for this tournament because the contest sites that run all the qualifiers don't allow Nevada residents to deposit money in an account to pay for the tournaments. We're stuck playing the free ones where you're up against 2000+ contestants vying for 3 or 4 NHC seats.

Although last year was my only my second year trying to qualify for the nhc ( and I fell short, I have only myself to blame, decided to not take a crack at it from June until after breeders cup ), but I was close to qualifying on points.

My biggest mistake last year was Forget trying to win outright against the 2000 people in each free contest , just try to place as high as you can as often as you can. For those of you unaware top 10% get tour points in each contest. A nice guy I met at the derby contest at treasure island known as the Dentist to the inner circle of players, figured out with me it would probably take around 10,000 tour points to qualify. Turns out he hit it right on the head.

Jason

[cato]

For you Nevada guys and gals I think the Treasure Island has several qualifying tournaments a year + there are 3 or 4 a year at Surfside at DelMar + several a year at Santa Anita and Del Mar. And there's always cousins and friends ...

[Immanuel Kant]

Congratulations to our own Immanuel Kant, a previous HOTY here at PA, who finished 11th. Awesome tournament for him.

He's now touring the American Southwest with his ever-lovin' spouse for a few weeks.

All the best from all of us at PA.

Thanks

After 5 trips to the NHC where I "blanked", the 6th time was the charm........$1.50 from the final table...........can't complain though....cashing is indeed its own reward......

[cato]

Wow, that's fantastic! Congratulations! Tough beat on the $1.50. Two years ago I was something like $1.50 out of the top 50 (the difference between cashing and having a chance for more and -0-). Made me want to bet a show bet this year just to get the $1.50 just in case I needed it :)

[mistergee]

Thanks

After 5 trips to the NHC where I "blanked", the 6th time was the charm........$1.50 from the final table...........can't complain though....cashing is indeed its own reward......
great job, congratulations

[tanner12oz]

Dont you have to be like a member of the tour or something for alot of these? How does that all work?

I won a free trip to Vegas for a game show a few years ago and it was awesome..would love to get back out there on someone else dime

[Parkview_Pirate]

Dont you have to be like a member of the tour or something for alot of these? How does that all work?

I won a free trip to Vegas for a game show a few years ago and it was awesome..would love to get back out there on someone else dime

To qualify for the NHC, you also have to be a NTRA "tour" member - an annual fee of $50 (there are also $75 and $100 memberships). In the overall scheme of things, the $50 is a small part of the overall cost, and makes you eligible for tour prizes paid out to the top 20 finishers at the end of the year. There's additional prizes for 1st and 2nd half finishes.

The real benefit of the tour, IMHO, is that the top 150 finishers qualify for a seat at the NHC if they have not qualified in a previous tournament. One of my buddies got in this year that way - never finished high enough to qualify, but a few top 10s got him in.

Check out NTRA.com for details - and enter tourneys out on DRF.com, horsetourneys.com or some of the other sites that offer feeders and tourneys.