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maddog42
01-17-2017, 03:02 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/opinion/how-republics-end.html?WT.mc_id=2016-KWP-AUD_DEV&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&kwp_0=299460&kwp_4=1147911&kwp_1=526748&_r=0

boxcar
01-17-2017, 03:06 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/opinion/how-republics-end.html?WT.mc_id=2016-KWP-AUD_DEV&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&kwp_0=299460&kwp_4=1147911&kwp_1=526748&_r=0

I thought the NY Slimes was relevant only for birdcage liners?

PaceAdvantage
01-17-2017, 03:07 PM
Winning domestic political struggles is all that matters, the good of the republic be damned.The Democrats practically INVENTED this brand of politics. Krugman is a hypocrite right off the bat.

If Trump is Caesar (or Hitler, like Krugman REALLY wanted to write, but couldn't for some reason, although he mentions the 1930s in a so-thinly-veiled attempt), then he should be the first one to step up, be a hero, and save the country through ANY MEANS POSSIBLE...and I mean any means...

Grow some balls Democrats. Save the world.

davew
01-17-2017, 03:31 PM
The fascist president only has 3 days left - unless he declares martial law and proclaims himself supreme leader 0bamma.

RunForTheRoses
01-17-2017, 03:49 PM
I think democratic republics end when the 47% is just interested in voting themselves goodies but ymmv.

delayjf
01-17-2017, 04:11 PM
Winning domestic political struggles is all that matters, the good of the republic be damned.
When you consider how Obamacare was passed (without being read), I think the above applies to Obama more so than to Trump. If Trump is US equivalent to Hitler, Obama and Hillary are the US equivalent to Stalin and Mao. Hillary's wardrobe certainly fits right in with Mao.

CincyHorseplayer
01-17-2017, 04:35 PM
Big publications putting forth party edited propaganda. Press collusion. Billion dollar campaigns. Boycott of an elected president by age old voting system. Yeah Democracy is crumbling alright.

Clocker
01-17-2017, 05:05 PM
From the NYT:

So what’s driving this story? I don’t think it’s truly ideological. Supposedly free-market politicians are already discovering that crony capitalism is fine as long as it involves the right cronies. It does have to do with class warfare — redistribution from the poor and the middle class to the wealthy is a consistent theme of all modern Republican policies. But what directly drives the attack on democracy, I’d argue, is simple careerism on the part of people who are apparatchiks within a system insulated from outside pressures by gerrymandered districts, unshakable partisan loyalty, and lots and lots of plutocratic financial support.

Careerism? Like the "Deep State", the non-elected career bureaucrats buried in the bowels of the monster, running their own little empires in the EPA and the IRS? Unshakable partisan loyalty? Like the left that refused to believe that Obama and Hillary lied? Plutocratic financial support like from Soros and his ilk?

Those are just the symptoms. This is how republics end.

From the Foundation for Economic Education:

Ultimately, the collapse of the political order of republican Rome has its origins in three developments that took root in the second century B.C., then blossomed by the end of the first. One was foreign adventure. The second was the welfare state. The third was a sacrifice of constitutional norms and the rule of law to the demands of the other two.

https://fee.org/articles/the-fall-of-the-republic/ (https://fee.org/articles/the-fall-of-the-republic/)

More on the role of central planning and the welfare state in the fall of Rome here:

https://fee.org/articles/how-roman-central-planners-destroyed-their-economy/?utm_medium=popular_widget

bobbyb
01-18-2017, 06:38 AM
https://fee.org/articles/the-fall-of-the-republic/

More on the role of central planning and the welfare state in the fall of Rome here:

https://fee.org/articles/how-roman-...=popular_widget

Clocker

Thks for the links. Extremely informative and a pleasure to read an author sans biases.

garyscpa
01-18-2017, 07:51 AM
Krugman must not remember how the Dems cheated their own party in the primaries. Now that's how republic's end.

pandy
01-18-2017, 07:56 AM
Krugman has always been nutty but he's been unraveling since election day.

Valuist
01-18-2017, 01:01 PM
Here's a direct quote from Krugman:

"Institutions don't protect against tyranny when powerful people start defying political norms".

Paul, this is EXACTLY why the globalists he support(s) were defeated.