EIGHT YEARS OF BUSH VS. EIGHT YEARS OF OBAMA

[mostpost]

At the end of the Bush Administration unemployment stood at 7.3%.
At the end of the Obama Administration unemploynent was 4.7%.

3,509,000 jobs were created during the Bush Presidency.
9,718,000 jubs were created during the Obama Presidency.

The U6 unemployment rate at the end of Bush's term was 13.6%
At the end of Obama's term it was 9.2%.
(In case you haven't been listening U6 includes those who have stopped looking for work.)

The National Debt increased 76.6% while Bush was president.
The National Debt increased 44% while Obama was president.

There were 4,853 military fatalities during Bush's reign.
There were 2,079 military fatalities during Obama's reign.

3,028 Americans died in Terrorist attacks on American soil under Bush.
146 died in similar attacks under Obama.

14.6% of Americans were uninsured in 2008.
11% were uninsured in 2016.

Housing starts in 2008 were 905,500 units
Housing starts in 2016 were 1,111,800 units.

At the start of 2001 real Median income was $56,571; at the start of 2009 it was $54,998; and it is now $56,516.

At the beginning of 2001 there were 3,332,000 working part time for economic reasons. At the beginning of 2009 that number had increased to 8,046,000. Today that number has dropped to 5,598,000.

OBAMA WINS. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MONEY]

I didn't vote for either of them.
They were both awful.

[chadk66]

you forgot the numbers on food stamps, out of the work force, etc. etc. and how many workers in the Bush era fell off the unemployment percentage due to various reasons vs the same thing in the Obama era. anybody with a piss ant sized brain understands the unemployment number isn't the actual unemployment number.

[LottaKash]

I didn't vote for either of them.
They were both awful.

16 years of "Dum & Dumber".....and, 24 years of the same, if you throw in the couple trying to mimic Juan and Eva Peron...

[Clocker]

OBAMA WINS.

Yep, you nailed it. The unprecedented Obama era of prosperity is why American voters overwhelming supported "Obama's third term", to be carried on by his surrogate, Hillary Clinton, further implementing Obama's policies and stunning record of economic growth.

[ElKabong]

Yep, you nailed it. The unprecedented Obama era of prosperity is why American voters overwhelming supported "Obama's third term", to be carried on by his surrogate, Hillary Clinton, further implementing Obama's policies and stunning record of economic growth.

Not to mention losing over 1000 local, state, national seats via elections.

[boxcar]

Not to mention losing over 1000 local, state, national seats via elections.

Yup...even Obama himself said at one point that the election was all about his policies. And all of us know how that turned out...except for Mosty.
The Dems are in control in only five states. For the math-challenged libs out there, 10% of the country ain't a majority.

[woodtoo]

Take away California....

[Ocala Mike]

The Dems are in control in only five states. For the math-challenged libs out there, 10% of the country ain't a majority.



I think that's what they call disingenuous. 5/50 is 10%, sure, but what is the population of those five states and how much do those states contribute to the overall economy of the US?

As far as your use of the term majority, the Dem nominee secured that by nearly 3 million votes, so there's that.

[thaskalos]

I think that's what they call disingenuous. 5/50 is 10%, sure, but what is the population of those five states and how much do those states contribute to the overall economy of the US?

As far as your use of the term majority, the Dem nominee secured that by nearly 3 million votes, so there's that.

Are you trying to use logic on Boxcar?

[boxcar]

I think that's what they call disingenuous. 5/50 is 10%, sure, but what is the population of those five states and how much do those states contribute to the overall economy of the US?

As far as your use of the term majority, the Dem nominee secured that by nearly 3 million votes, so there's that.

Did you fail civics 101? I stand by my statement: 10% of the country since we're a representative republic, a/k/a an INDIRECT democracy. What counts in national elections are the votes of each state that were cast by the residents of those states, not each individual in the country as a whole.

And how much a state contributes to the nation's overall economy is not a legitimate criterion for sovereign statehood.

[boxcar]

Are you trying to use logic on Boxcar?

Yeah, he was. I suppose that would entitle him to a participation award?

[RunForTheRoses]

16 years of "Dum & Dumber".....and, 24 years of the same, if you throw in the couple trying to mimic Juan and Eva Peron...

Yeah I was never a fan of Bush the Lesser or his Pappy Bush the Elder. Remember Shrubya 1 coined the term Voodoo Economics and if you read his lips they weren't very truthful. I don't believe the left wing meme that they wee stupid, they were Yankee Yale grads who were adept at playing the awe shilucks Texas rancher.

[Inner Dirt]

Forgot to add race rioting was up under Obama and people that are nostalgic about the past and missed the 60's South really enjoyed them.

[Greyfox]

Bush, Obama, and Carter are running nose and nose as to who is the worst President in my lifetime.
Why Mostie would start a comparative thread about two losers who've run the National Debt sky high is beyond my comprehension.

[davew]

They also are the first administration without any scandals

http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/17/stop-pretending-the-obama-administration-was-scandal-free/

[RaceBookJoe]

Bush racial divide = 2015 Belmont
Obama racial divide- 1973 Belmont

Obama also shrank the 100 year republican death sentence to less than 8yrs :)

[boxcar]

They also are the first administration without any scandals

http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/17/stop-pretending-the-obama-administration-was-scandal-free/

The biggest legacy of this president is that his propensity to lie only rivaled that of Slick Willy's.

[davew]

Tulsi Gabbard introducing bill to prohibit US from supporting terrorists (like 0bama has been doing in middle east)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76GhC5d52d8

[JustRalph]

You must be loving Trump


http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/360916-unemployment-rate-hit-record-low-in-13-states-this-year

[chadk66]

You must be loving Trump


http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/360916-unemployment-rate-hit-record-low-in-13-states-this-yearyep using Mosti's logic Trump has to be by far is most favorite Pres to date.

[davew]

I sign of things to come for mostposts' scandal free administration?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korean-court-finds-ousted-park-guilty-bribery-062950804.html

[Buckeye]

I think that's what they call disingenuous. 5/50 is 10%, sure, but what is the population of those five states and how much do those states contribute to the overall economy of the US?

As far as your use of the term majority, the Dem nominee secured that by nearly 3 million votes, so there's that.

The Electoral College is how the President is elected. The reason the Founders set it up this way was to ensure against California, for example, of doing that.

[Tom]

That is correct.
While I myself support the direct election by popular vote, I guess the EC is not so bad after all! :headbanger::pound::lol::cool:

[boxcar]

The Electoral College is how the President is elected. The reason the Founders set it up this way was to ensure against California, for example, of doing that.

The EC is a great system of checks and balances. And most people are for such a common sense system...except when things don't go their way.

Popular vote majorities may be fine for pure democracies, but the U.S. was not founded as such.

[davew]

That is correct.
While I myself support the direct election by popular vote, I guess the EC is not so bad after all! :headbanger::pound::lol::cool:

It is harder to 'fix' the electoral college than the popular vote.

[Clocker]

Popular vote majorities may be fine for pure democracies, but the U.S. was not founded as such.

Correct. The EC was established to reflect and support a system of government where the states had more power than the federal government except where needed, such as national defense and foreign relations.

Today the federal government has assumed more power than was ever intended for it to have, and the states let it happen.