Christmas Day Racing

[Ocala Mike]

Any North American tracks running at all, flat/harness?

Had a good day in my TS account at Laurel today - guess I'll have to wait until Monday to burn some of it off! LOL.

[Track Collector]

Hipodromo Camarero in Puerto Rico is the only North America track that I know of racing on Christmas day.

(Probably not the answer you were hoping for!) :)

[arw629]

Any North American tracks running at all, flat/harness?

Had a good day in my TS account at Laurel today - guess I'll have to wait until Monday to burn some of it off! LOL.

As did I! Axis Mundi in the finale made my day!

[EMD4ME]

Calder is running in my memory banks. Sigh...

[HuggingTheRail]

Here in Canada, our beloved HPI decided not to carry the Laurel card today, so we had nada today....

[EasyGoer89]

Calder is running in my memory banks. Sigh...

Exactly.

No reason not to run like normal. Nba playing games on 25th nobody seems to have a problem with that but if tracks want to open (like they normally do on Sunday's) all of a sudden people can't stand it.

[arw629]

Exactly.

No reason not to run like normal. Nba playing games on 25th nobody seems to have a problem with that but if tracks want to open (like they normally do on Sunday's) all of a sudden people can't stand it.

Who can't stand it?

[SuperPickle]

Exactly.

No reason not to run like normal. Nba playing games on 25th nobody seems to have a problem with that but if tracks want to open (like they normally do on Sunday's) all of a sudden people can't stand it.

SRU you've been barking up this tree for years and simply won't concede you're wrong.

Laurel did $2.8 million today as the only track running. That's a couple hundred grand more than normal Saturday without one other track running.

It would be beyond moronic for a track to race on Christmas. First off there would no simulcasting open outside of vegas so that's probably a third of your handle off the top. Second neither the horseman nor the on track employees want it. You think a lot of trainers are going to show up to race a $10k claimer?Third the media would pan it as low cost workers being forced to work to entertain degenerates on a holiday. Racing could really use another negative story.

If have any doubts how awful an idea it is ask the people who run both Parx who always raced on Christmas Eve. They even ran a stake.

And comparing it to the NBA running on Christmas where they get their biggest regular season rates is just silly.

[EasyGoer89]

SRU you've been barking up this tree for years and simply won't concede you're wrong.

Laurel did $2.8 million today as the only track running. That's a couple hundred grand more than normal Saturday without one other track running.

It would be beyond moronic for a track to race on Christmas. First off there would no simulcasting open outside of vegas so that's probably a third of your handle off the top. Second neither the horseman nor the on track employees want it. You think a lot of trainers are going to show up to race a $10k claimer?Third the media would pan it as low cost workers being forced to work to entertain degenerates on a holiday. Racing could really use another negative story.

If have any doubts how awful an idea it is ask the people who run both Parx who always raced on Christmas Eve. They even ran a stake.

And comparing it to the NBA running on Christmas where they get their biggest regular season rates is just silly.

Them doing more than Normal handle speaks volumes, the typical simo Bettor who normally doesn't play laurel isn't going to drop everything to spend an entire day betting one track w 23 mins between races with no other options, if every track was running like they normally do, the handles would be fine.

Viewing isolated handles on one track running takes everything out of context, the only way you can point to stats is if every track that normally runs on Saturday in December is running.

[SuperPickle]

Them doing more than Normal handle speaks volumes, the typical simo Bettor who normally doesn't play laurel isn't going to drop everything to spend an entire day betting one track w 23 mins between races with no other options, if every track was running like they normally do, the handles would be fine.

Viewing isolated handles on one track running takes everything out of context, the only way you can point to stats is if every track that normally runs on Saturday in December is running.

Literally none of this true.

There's a reason New York is not racing a whole week. There's a reason SoCal if off a whole week. Theres a reason all the tracks stopped racing on Christmas Eve. There's a reason the NFL shifted the bulk of its schedule to Saturday.

You can't win competing against the Christmas. Can't be done.

When the NFL, the 10,000 pound gorilla of sports ducks Christmas you know it's the right decision not to race. The idea that if everyone raced like normal the handle would be normal is beyond silly.

[EMD4ME]

SRU you've been barking up this tree for years and simply won't concede you're wrong.

Laurel did $2.8 million today as the only track running. That's a couple hundred grand more than normal Saturday without one other track running.

It would be beyond moronic for a track to race on Christmas. First off there would no simulcasting open outside of vegas so that's probably a third of your handle off the top. Second neither the horseman nor the on track employees want it. You think a lot of trainers are going to show up to race a $10k claimer?Third the media would pan it as low cost workers being forced to work to entertain degenerates on a holiday. Racing could really use another negative story.

If have any doubts how awful an idea it is ask the people who run both Parx who always raced on Christmas Eve. They even ran a stake.

And comparing it to the NBA running on Christmas where they get their biggest regular season rates is just silly.


Wait....you just said that with no simulcasting it would be a disaster.

But you're OK with no TV access for the older/low tech crowd.

Racetrack management at its finest.

Regardless,


Merry Christmas super pickle. To you and your family sir.

[Dahoss9698]

Literally none of this true.

There's a reason New York is not racing a whole week. There's a reason SoCal if off a whole week. Theres a reason all the tracks stopped racing on Christmas Eve. There's a reason the NFL shifted the bulk of its schedule to Saturday.

You can't win competing against the Christmas. Can't be done.

When the NFL, the 10,000 pound gorilla of sports ducks Christmas you know it's the right decision not to race. The idea that if everyone raced like normal the handle would be normal is beyond silly.
I'm sure you realize but SRU and EMD just post to post. They aren't interested in much outside of adding to their post count.

Think about it, he viewed it as a positive that they did a few hundred thousand more than normal as literally the only option. You can't try and reason with that kind of trolling.

[EasyGoer89]

Literally none of this true.

There's a reason New York is not racing a whole week. There's a reason SoCal if off a whole week. Theres a reason all the tracks stopped racing on Christmas Eve. There's a reason the NFL shifted the bulk of its schedule to Saturday.

You can't win competing against the Christmas. Can't be done.

When the NFL, the 10,000 pound gorilla of sports ducks Christmas you know it's the right decision not to race. The idea that if everyone raced like normal the handle would be normal is beyond silly.

My point was that it's not a normal racing day so plenty of people who would have otherwise spent the day betting didn't bet on laurel, so it's not some kind of bonus that laurel is the only game in town, my point was that them being the only signal hurt their business, not helped it.

[andtheyreoff]

My point was that it's not a normal racing day so plenty of people who would have otherwise spent the day betting didn't bet on laurel, so it's not some kind of bonus that laurel is the only game in town, my point was that them being the only signal hurt their business, not helped it.

Are you kidding?

Laurel handled $2,800,718 yesterday. The last Saturday they raced, they did $2,627,497. On the two Saturdays before that, $1,890,509 and $2,093,217.

That figure from yesterday was also achieved without most OTBs across the country being open, too. It was almost all from off-track handle. To try to claim that Laurel was HURT by being by themselves is ludicrous. It HELPED them immensely.

[sharkie187]

Let's not forget that NZ and Australia are running Christmas night!

[SuperPickle]

I'm sure you realize but SRU and EMD just post to post. They aren't interested in much outside of adding to their post count.

Think about it, he viewed it as a positive that they did a few hundred thousand more than normal as literally the only option. You can't try and reason with that kind of trolling.

You're absolutely right but on top of that their posts remind me of the last season of South Park. Basically the whole season was based on the idea of how people love to misremember the past and generally view it as nostalgic and better than it really was.

The reality is Calder used to run on Christmas Day and Parx and a handful of other tracks ran on Christmas Eve. Horsemen at both tracks preferred not to run and the handle numbers were always equal to or less than any other day so the tracks abandoned running.

But let's let some people on the internet tell a different story.

[EMD4ME]

This is funny. I made 1 post. 8 words. I made NOT much of a point...but on topic &

Dahoss and The Pickle go apeshit goo goo ga ga over how much I spoke and posted.

That tells me a lot :lol:

OK you 2, I succumb, the autographed pics are on their way :lol: You guys are OBSESSED.

[NorCalGreg]

My point was that it's not a normal racing day so plenty of people who would have otherwise spent the day betting didn't bet on laurel

read slowly---it's actually funny :lol:

[Dahoss9698]

This is funny. I made 1 post. 8 words. I made NOT much of a point...but on topic &

Dahoss and The Pickle go apeshit goo goo ga ga over how much I spoke and posted.

That tells me a lot :lol:

OK you 2, I succumb, the autographed pics are on their way :lol: You guys are OBSESSED.
Dude, you made more than 1 post. Your second post was your usual passive aggressive nonsense. Are you even aware when one of the 3 of you posts from this name anymore?

Obsessed would be starting a thread to track the ROI of someone a few days after you argued with them. But hey, that thread seemed to go real well for you so keep it up.

[Dahoss9698]

You're absolutely right but on top of that their posts remind me of the last season of South Park. Basically the whole season was based on the idea of how people love to misremember the past and generally view it as nostalgic and better than it really was.

The reality is Calder used to run on Christmas Day and Parx and a handful of other tracks ran on Christmas Eve. Horsemen at both tracks preferred not to run and the handle numbers were always equal to or less than any other day so the tracks abandoned running.

But let's let some people on the internet tell a different story.
The South Park reference is spot on.

These two were meant for each other

[djm1959]

didnt kill me to miss 2 days of racing.....santa anita today and right now like 10 uk-ire tracks are running,,,,i survived

[EMD4ME]

Dude, you made more than 1 post. Your second post was your usual passive aggressive nonsense. Are you even aware when one of the 3 of you posts from this name anymore?

Obsessed would be starting a thread to track the ROI of someone a few days after you argued with them. But hey, that thread seemed to go real well for you so keep it up.

You are correct, my apologies. I made 2. I skimmed through the thread on my phone and with all the noise from family/friends, I didn't see it properly.

My bad but point still is the same.

[Dahoss9698]

You are correct, my apologies. I made 2. I skimmed through the thread on my phone and with all the noise from family/friends, I didn't see it properly.

My bad but point still is the same.
I can just see it now. Your family and friends are all around having fun, Christmas music in the background and you're telling everyone to keep it down because you're having a hard time following the "Christmas Day Racing" thread at PA. What a life!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[MonmouthParkJoe]

I have often thought the same thing about no racing on Christmas since we seem to run on every other holiday. One day off wont kill anyone, and im sure they have looked at the numbers in the past to determine it wasnt a good business decision.

Nice to have one day off, and im sure the family members of the bettors like having their full attention for at least one day of the year.

[EMD4ME]

I have often thought the same thing about no racing on Christmas since we seem to run on every other holiday. One day off wont kill anyone, and im sure they have looked at the numbers in the past to determine it wasnt a good business decision.

Nice to have one day off, and im sure the family members of the bettors like having their full attention for at least one day of the year.

I don't mind the mental vacation. For the 1st time in my life, I wish it didn't end. I needed the break.

[MonmouthParkJoe]

I don't mind the mental vacation. For the 1st time in my life, I wish it didn't end. I needed the break.

I actually find myself playing alot less once the summer ends with tracks like Monmouth and Saratoga done. I really dont start playing alot until April with Belmont. The winter months is usually when I play at the casino books, but far and few in between.

However I am also not supplementing my income with it, so I understand the need for it. In fact, since I am such a hack it behooves me to play less :D