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rrpic6
12-24-2016, 09:19 AM
I've been hearing rumors, bad ones about Mountaineer lately. Did they tell everyone in the racing department they were being let go? No horses allowed on back side again after live racing ended in November. Hope this is just temporary and all are brought back in April. I'm sure Peter Berry and Mountainman would know the truth.

RR

tcasolo
12-24-2016, 09:52 AM
Can't say I'm surprised. The place is like a ghost town anymore. The only thing going for it is the onsite hotel. Income down over 50% since 2014. I hated coming home smelling like tobacco smoke, but that was one of the few draws that MNR had left until the county banned smoking.

Future doesn't look bright for Mountaineer, sad to say. It's location was once fabulous, as it drew from Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Akron/Canton/Cleveland. Now the location is a huge problem. Plus, the entire layout, having a separate huge building for the track grandstand doesn't help matters at all.

The old saying "three strikes and you're out"....MNR has about 10 strikes now.

Inner Dirt
12-24-2016, 09:55 AM
I grade tracks compared to how profitable my handicapping is there. There are 3 levels, Banned (I no longer wager there) OK, and Good. Mountaineer is on the Banned list. To me on average about 1 race a day defies explanation at most tracks, which to me means I can't give any reason for the winner to have won after the race is over. I call these WTF races, for me on most days over half the races at Mountaineer qualify as those types. Typical would be a horse with a low pace figure easily wiring the field unchallenged or a horse closing from far back against a soft pace in a 6 furlong race. Not saying something is fishy I just suck there without a good explanation for it. I don't wish them to shut down, I don't want any track to close, I just can't afford to play there.

Inner Dirt
12-24-2016, 10:40 AM
Can't say I'm surprised. The place is like a ghost town anymore. The only thing going for it is the onsite hotel. Income down over 50% since 2014. I hated coming home smelling like tobacco smoke, but that was one of the few draws that MNR had left until the county banned smoking.

Future doesn't look bright for Mountaineer, sad to say. It's location was once fabulous, as it drew from Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Akron/Canton/Cleveland. Now the location is a huge problem. Plus, the entire layout, having a separate huge building for the track grandstand doesn't help matters at all.

The old saying "three strikes and you're out"....MNR has about 10 strikes now.

I guess I am weird, I don't smoke and the smell doesn't bother me. In fact when I smell second hand smoke I fondly think of the track or a casino. I consider it part of the ambiance of a gambling establishment. My cat pees on my clothes in my laundry basket of dirty clothes anyway so a little smoky smell doesn't hurt anything.

Peter Berry
12-24-2016, 11:05 AM
I've been hearing rumors, bad ones about Mountaineer lately. Did they tell everyone in the racing department they were being let go? No horses allowed on back side again after live racing ended in November. Hope this is just temporary and all are brought back in April. I'm sure Peter Berry and Mountainman would know the truth.

RR
Yes, everyone in the racing department has been let go. Most likely we will have to reapply for our jobs on a seasonal basis. I expect to be rehired but a lot can happen between now and mid-April. Right now I'm unemployed but I'll be calling the quarter horse meet at Louisiana Downs (46 days) starting Jan. 7.

rrpic6
12-24-2016, 11:24 AM
Yes, everyone in the racing department has been let go. Most likely we will have to reapply for our jobs on a seasonal basis. I expect to be rehired but a lot can happen between now and mid-April. Right now I'm unemployed but I'll be calling the quarter horse meet at Louisiana Downs (46 days) starting Jan. 7.

Thought that was the case Peter. I know some other tracks have been doing the same thing, as far as re-applying for their jobs yearly. Good Luck down South!

RR

Inner Dirt
12-24-2016, 12:44 PM
Yes, everyone in the racing department has been let go. Most likely we will have to reapply for our jobs on a seasonal basis. I expect to be rehired but a lot can happen between now and mid-April. Right now I'm unemployed but I'll be calling the quarter horse meet at Louisiana Downs (46 days) starting Jan. 7.

What do they expect to accomplish by doing that? Doesn't seem like good business to me, seems like it would cost money and not save it.

cj
12-24-2016, 12:49 PM
What do they expect to accomplish by doing that? Doesn't seem like good business to me, seems like it would cost money and not save it.

Benefits for full time employees cost a lot of money. That is probably the reason, but I'm guessing.

Peter Berry
12-24-2016, 12:54 PM
Benefits for full time employees cost a lot of money. That is probably the reason, but I'm guessing.
Correct.

Inner Dirt
12-24-2016, 01:51 PM
Benefits for full time employees cost a lot of money. That is probably the reason, but I'm guessing.

Are the level of benefits dictated by union contracts?

PaceAdvantage
12-24-2016, 02:06 PM
Yes, everyone in the racing department has been let go. Most likely we will have to reapply for our jobs on a seasonal basis. I expect to be rehired but a lot can happen between now and mid-April. Right now I'm unemployed but I'll be calling the quarter horse meet at Louisiana Downs (46 days) starting Jan. 7.Where do I start the petition to get you a major circuit gig? If anyone deserves a shot at calling the races at a big-time track, it's you.

kingfin66
12-24-2016, 02:26 PM
Strongly agree.

Track Phantom
12-24-2016, 02:54 PM
Where do I start the petition to get you a major circuit gig? If anyone deserves a shot at calling the races at a big-time track, it's you.
Very true.

cj
12-24-2016, 02:56 PM
Are the level of benefits dictated by union contracts?

A guy that works there already said "correct". I said I was guessing so I'm stepping out now.

Tom
12-24-2016, 03:22 PM
To our loyal employees"

Merry Christmas, now get the HELL out here and stay out!

Lovely little operation. Bah, humbug.

Inner Dirt
12-24-2016, 03:34 PM
Where do I start the petition to get you a major circuit gig? If anyone deserves a shot at calling the races at a big-time track, it's you.

I will sign, the race calls are great. During the running of the races Mr Berry just seems to always make negative comments about the horses I bet there.:lol: I suck at Mountaineer unless the track is sealed and the race is very short.

Peter Berry
12-24-2016, 04:17 PM
Where do I start the petition to get you a major circuit gig? If anyone deserves a shot at calling the races at a big-time track, it's you.
Thank you. I believe all the major tracks are spoken for at the moment. That said, I'm a free agent now and open to all offers. I'm certainly reassessing my future.

alhattab
12-24-2016, 04:34 PM
I guess I am weird, I don't smoke and the smell doesn't bother me. In fact when I smell second hand smoke I fondly think of the track or a casino. I consider it part of the ambiance of a gambling establishment. My cat pees on my clothes in my laundry basket of dirty clothes anyway so a little smoky smell doesn't hurt anything.

Funny post- not sure if intended but funny nonetheless- in spite of the sad subject matter. I've never so much as taken a drag from a cigarette and the smell never bothered me either. I looked forward to it since they banned smoking indoors at the NJ tracks. Maybe because my dad used to smoke at the kitchen table. As far as the cat peeing, pretty much anything smells better than cat piss!

Hang in there Peter!

Peter Berry
12-24-2016, 07:04 PM
I can say with the utmost confidence that the owners of Mountaineer are committed to its future. They want racing to succeed and prosper.

EMD4ME
12-24-2016, 07:20 PM
Where do I start the petition to get you a major circuit gig? If anyone deserves a shot at calling the races at a big-time track, it's you.

I strongly agree, Peter is witty, he adds charm to any race or racetrack.

This is sad. I pray for the best for everyone. Contraction is a disease, not a cure.

HalvOnHorseracing
12-24-2016, 07:21 PM
Yes, everyone in the racing department has been let go. Most likely we will have to reapply for our jobs on a seasonal basis. I expect to be rehired but a lot can happen between now and mid-April. Right now I'm unemployed but I'll be calling the quarter horse meet at Louisiana Downs (46 days) starting Jan. 7.
I hope you're still available in the spring. If I had a track you'd be on my short list for announcer. Best of luck to you.

EMD4ME
12-24-2016, 07:23 PM
If MNR runs Apr thru Sep, Retama is available Sep Oct and Nov.

Just throwing an option there.

JimG
12-24-2016, 07:24 PM
Let me add that Mark and Nancy are excellent at what they do as well. Peter Berry should have no problem getting a nice gig should MNR not return or cut back sharply. He is that good.

Jim

EMD4ME
12-24-2016, 07:40 PM
Agreed! I LOVE the Mountainman and Nancy as well.

Mountainman is in another world, when it comes to hard work and talent.

They can land anywhere. I hope they land on their feet near a track I love IF MNR goes away :ThmbUp:

Peter Berry
12-24-2016, 08:47 PM
If MNR runs Apr thru Sep, Retama is available Sep Oct and Nov.

Just throwing an option there.
Little-known fact: When Retama opened its doors, I ordered and consumed the very first drink - a Retama Rita. Same deal at Lone Star, though I cannot recall the name of the beverage.

EMD4ME
12-24-2016, 09:27 PM
Little-known fact: When Retama opened its doors, I ordered and consumed the very first drink - a Retama Rita. Same deal at Lone Star, though I cannot recall the name of the beverage.


I love that stuff!!!

Tell us more , tell us more!!! Happy holidays Mr. Berry! Please don't put the cue in the rack !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

SuperPickle
12-25-2016, 01:14 AM
Thank you. I believe all the major tracks are spoken for at the moment. That said, I'm a free agent now and open to all offers. I'm certainly reassessing my future.

Peter I really hope you hang in there. As a former front side employee I'm fully aware of the soul crushing aspect of racetrack employment.

This sport certainly needs talented announcers and you are as good as anyone out there and I hope we hear you call races as long as you want.

That being said I'll all too familiar with the $250 a race day gigs that entail being announcer, simulcast host, mutuals manager and janitor.

Make the best choice for you and remember we love you here.

SuperPickle
12-25-2016, 01:19 AM
Are the level of benefits dictated by union contracts?

Perhaps the funniest post in PA history.

But seriously outside of mutual clerks in a handful of major tracks and NYRA employees who are state employees no one at the track is union.

In fact because most tracks race either seasonal or race so few days the majority of non-executive employees/management are categorized as either seasonal or part-time.

thespaah
12-25-2016, 04:18 PM
I guess I am weird, I don't smoke and the smell doesn't bother me. In fact when I smell second hand smoke I fondly think of the track or a casino. I consider it part of the ambiance of a gambling establishment. My cat pees on my clothes in my laundry basket of dirty clothes anyway so a little smoky smell doesn't hurt anything.
It it were my pet, that cat would be launched off my roof into a pile of thumbtacks. :lol:

thespaah
12-25-2016, 04:19 PM
Yes, everyone in the racing department has been let go. Most likely we will have to reapply for our jobs on a seasonal basis. I expect to be rehired but a lot can happen between now and mid-April. Right now I'm unemployed but I'll be calling the quarter horse meet at Louisiana Downs (46 days) starting Jan. 7.
Ok. Cool that you are working.
Please keep us posted as to goings on at MNR..
Happy Holidays!

thespaah
12-25-2016, 04:20 PM
Where do I start the petition to get you a major circuit gig? If anyone deserves a shot at calling the races at a big-time track, it's you.
:jump: :jump: :jump: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

pondman
12-25-2016, 06:52 PM
Nothing has change in Hoopieville. It nothing but WWF Wrestlemania anyway.

mountainman
12-26-2016, 06:23 PM
This was always going to happen. Once declared "seasonal," employees get no benefits. This saves ownership money.

On a personal note, given the unique range of rolls I fill at mnr, I SHOULD be confident of being called back this spring-but nobody, myself included, is resting all that easily these days.

With that said, however, I'm a realist who never expected such a long successful run, and I'm well-satisfied with our legacy and body of work.

And, incidentally, if I HAVE been canned, permanently, that is, it's not NEARLY as traumatic as I would have expected. My confidence and sense of self remain virtually unshaken.

I'm now backed by two separate whales, and Mahoning is easy pickings.

Thumbs down to Mahoning, by the way, for routinely running out of forms, refusing to change monitors in the upstairs sports bar to the local product, and failing to anticipate today's large crowd. Some of the omens there are not real encouraging.

lamboguy
12-26-2016, 06:56 PM
This was always going to happen. Once declared "seasonal," employees get no benefits. This saves ownership money.

On a personal note, given the unique range of rolls I fill at mnr, I SHOULD be confident of being called back this spring-but nobody, myself included, is resting all that easily these days.

With that said, however, I'm a realist who never expected such a long successful run, and I'm well-satisfied with our legacy and body of work.

And, incidentally, if I HAVE been canned, permanently, that is, it's not NEARLY as traumatic as I would have expected. My confidence and sense of self remain virtually unshaken.

I'm now backed by two separate whales, and Mahoning is easy pickings.

Thumbs down to Mahoning, by the way, for routinely running out of forms, refusing to change monitors in the upstairs sports bar to the local product, and failing to anticipate today's large crowd. Some of the omens there are not real encouraging.merry xmas.......they had a .10 superfecta today that paid over $16,000. i happened to have had the winner and liked the horse that ran third in the race, but i didn't even think of playing the super!

no breathalyzer
12-26-2016, 06:56 PM
This was always going to happen. Once declared "seasonal," employees get no benefits. This saves ownership money.

On a personal note, given the unique range of rolls I fill at mnr, I SHOULD be confident of being called back this spring-but nobody, myself included, is resting all that easily these days.

With that said, however, I'm a realist who never expected such a long successful run, and I'm well-satisfied with our legacy and body of work.

And, incidentally, if I HAVE been canned, permanently, that is, it's not NEARLY as traumatic as I would have expected. My confidence and sense of self remain virtually unshaken.

I'm now backed by two separate whales, and Mahoning is easy pickings.

Thumbs down to Mahoning, by the way, for routinely running out of forms, refusing to change monitors in the upstairs sports bar to the local product, and failing to anticipate today's large crowd. Some of the omens there are not real encouraging.

take down that pick 6 mountainman!

mountainman
12-27-2016, 01:20 AM
Agreed! I LOVE the Mountainman and Nancy as well.

Mountainman is in another world, when it comes to hard work and talent.

They can land anywhere. I hope they land on their feet near a track I love IF MNR goes away :ThmbUp:

Please don't mistake me, my friend. As a reliable source of income, talking on tv beats the living hell out of competing with real money against guys like you.

In other words, don't expect me to dive into the Emerald Downs pools anytime soon.

ldiatone
12-27-2016, 02:14 AM
I can say with the utmost confidence that the owners of Mountaineer are committed to its future. They want racing to succeed and prosper.
Peter, is mnr suffering because of the new casinos in Pittsburgh-Meadows and Presque isle?? seems for a while a short 45 drive to Newel...but now less then then a 15 mins. to the rivers and 25 to the meadows all highway. rt 30 2 lane country rds from 22/30 and cutting through Springs down by the mill up 2 just as long.

MonmouthParkJoe
12-27-2016, 06:55 AM
Funny post- not sure if intended but funny nonetheless- in spite of the sad subject matter. I've never so much as taken a drag from a cigarette and the smell never bothered me either. I looked forward to it since they banned smoking indoors at the NJ tracks. Maybe because my dad used to smoke at the kitchen table. As far as the cat peeing, pretty much anything smells better than cat piss!

Hang in there Peter!

Thats good considering the crew you hang with at monmouth :D

Peter Berry
12-27-2016, 09:37 AM
Peter, is mnr suffering because of the new casinos in Pittsburgh-Meadows and Presque isle?? seems for a while a short 45 drive to Newel...but now less then then a 15 mins. to the rivers and 25 to the meadows all highway. rt 30 2 lane country rds from 22/30 and cutting through Springs down by the mill up 2 just as long.
Mahoning Valley and the state's money grab have hurt us more.

EMD4ME
12-27-2016, 10:19 AM
Mahoning Valley and the state's money grab have hurt us more.

States money grab of slot revenue? (Excuse my ignorance please)

Peter Berry
12-27-2016, 10:46 AM
States money grab of slot revenue? (Excuse my ignorance please)
Yes. Low-hanging fruit.

EMD4ME
12-27-2016, 11:13 AM
Yes. Low-hanging fruit.

:( yuck.... sorry to hear that.

rastajenk
12-27-2016, 04:46 PM
Hey Pete, send out some feelers to Belterra. It's a nice 5 1/2 month meet; they may not be looking for a new announcer, but they should be.

EMD4ME
12-27-2016, 05:34 PM
Hey Pete, send out some feelers to Belterra. It's a nice 5 1/2 month meet; they may not be looking for a new announcer, but they should be.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I've heard him.....I agree :)

I swear, they named that track Belterra, so that as people rush to make bets at Belmont, they click Belterra by accident :lol: :lol: :lol:

cj
12-27-2016, 09:20 PM
States money grab of slot revenue? (Excuse my ignorance please)

Horsemen and tracks were just as quick to do a money grab when slots came about too. It will go away everywhere eventually.

alhattab
12-27-2016, 10:41 PM
Thats good considering the crew you hang with at monmouth :D

Yeah really who needs to spend the $ on cigs when you hang out with those guys! Merry Christmas, my friend.

mountainman
12-28-2016, 08:39 PM
Horsemen and tracks were just as quick to do a money grab when slots came about too. It will go away everywhere eventually.

Nor are big tracks a cinch to evade the vicious cycle. It might merely take longer for them to become infected and phased out.

Dinosaurs just take longer to fall.

cj
12-28-2016, 10:30 PM
Nor are big tracks a cinch to evade the vicious cycle. It might merely take longer for them to become infected and phased out.

Dinosaurs just take longer to fall.

I did say everywhere. I don't get the dinosaur analogy. Tracks that were basically dead were revived with slots.

mountainman
12-28-2016, 11:31 PM
I did say everywhere. I don't get the dinosaur analogy. Tracks that were basically dead were revived with slots.

Large, powerful creatures that enjoy a long reign. And as far as dead tracks being revived, a healthier bottom line won't preclude major ovals from chasing slots. And plenty might WELL get them. States lust for gaming revenues, and horseracing has by far proven the best leverage to expedite the process and obtain a license.

ebcorde
12-29-2016, 12:19 AM
too bad. US racing could learn a little from HK and Japan. interactive
handicapping tools. This is the computer age, the hell with the racing form.


I should be able to find the right Horse for a race WITH ONE CLICK
I should be able to attend the track open up a tablet and request the fastest 2f par horse last out in the 4th or the highest win Trainer/Jockey combo. with a click. etc etc.

cell phones, tablets, queries, the bleeping cloud!!!!!
it's the stock market


as long as the game tailored to old people....it's over

ebcorde
12-29-2016, 12:34 AM
This was always going to happen. Once declared "seasonal," employees get no benefits. This saves ownership money.

On a personal note, given the unique range of rolls I fill at mnr, I SHOULD be confident of being called back this spring-but nobody, myself included, is resting all that easily these days.

With that said, however, I'm a realist who never expected such a long successful run, and I'm well-satisfied with our legacy and body of work.

And, incidentally, if I HAVE been canned, permanently, that is, it's not NEARLY as traumatic as I would have expected. My confidence and sense of self remain virtually unshaken.

I'm now backed by two separate whales, and Mahoning is easy pickings.

Thumbs down to Mahoning, by the way, for routinely running out of forms, refusing to change monitors in the upstairs sports bar to the local product, and failing to anticipate today's large crowd. Some of the omens there are not real encouraging.

when I lived near AC before Casinos came. "seasonal unemployment" was after Miss America Pageant to Easter Seemed like the entire town sat in clubs and drank all winter.

Mahoning is easy pickings = not always. I can't figure out the right pace there. I let the computer pick em.

mountainman
12-29-2016, 08:54 AM
when I lived near AC before Casinos came. "seasonal unemployment" was after Miss America Pageant to Easter Seemed like the entire town sat in clubs and drank all winter.

Mahoning is easy pickings = not always. I can't figure out the right pace there. I let the computer pick em.

Our handicapping styles might differ, sir. When it comes to Ohio racing, I would recommend a more intuitive and less regimented approach. It's not the place for machine-like repetition of recent or top figures.

And in my opinion, the pools are stupid and leave openings.

Happy holidays and best of luck.

EasyGoer89
04-18-2017, 07:26 PM
What's with these graphics people showing wrong replays putting graphics up during slow mo cmon guys

garyscpa
04-18-2017, 09:36 PM
So is Mark not back at Mountaineer? Watching it now and all I see is Nancy.

EasyGoer89
04-18-2017, 10:35 PM
So is Mark not back at Mountaineer? Watching it now and all I see is Nancy.

That was odd to not see him it's not like he needs a day off already. Hope he's well.

lamboguy
04-19-2017, 09:28 AM
i heard Mark on last night, i wasn't listening though until the last 2 races. its always great to hear Nancy and Mark, even when they don't pick winners. they are 2 very loyal people to the sport from many directions.

tanner12oz
04-19-2017, 12:25 PM
What's with these graphics people showing wrong replays putting graphics up during slow mo cmon guys

Looks like a flock of seagulls music video

MonmouthParkJoe
04-19-2017, 06:41 PM
http://www.drf.com/news/racing-commission-votes-shorten-mountaineer-meet-30-days

More dates cut, and now employees could lose health benefits. Pretty crazy to see the horsemen being the ones to ask for this.

EasyGoer89
04-19-2017, 07:12 PM
i heard Mark on last night, i wasn't listening though until the last 2 races. its always great to hear Nancy and Mark, even when they don't pick winners. they are 2 very loyal people to the sport from many directions.

Was he dressed up as the invisible man?

garyscpa
04-19-2017, 09:32 PM
Well, Mark's back on in race 7 tonight.

mountainman
04-20-2017, 11:51 AM
As some of you know, I'm not just a tv analyst, but also mnr's ast racing sec.
And lately we've had difficulty filling entries, which means I'm needed downstairs in the racing office at night. Not just to supervise the crew and official draw, but to hustle and help close entries.

Long before tv came along, I made my rep as a unique and innovative race hustler. As officials go, I'm not a peacetime soldier.

I do expect the problem to abate soon, and expect to be back on the show full time.

Kudos to Nance for covering. One-person shows can be drudgery.

I'd be honored if you guys checked out my latest blog. The company has asked for more content from me, and I intend to oblige.

cj
04-20-2017, 11:59 AM
As some of you know, I'm not just a tv analyst, but also mnr's ast racing sec.
And lately we've had difficulty filling entries, which means I'm needed downstairs in the racing office at night. Not just to supervise the crew and official draw, but to hustle and help close entries.

Long before tv came along, I made my rep as a unique and innovative race hustler. As officials go, I'm not a peacetime soldier.

I do expect the problem to abate soon, and expect to be back on the show full time.

Kudos to Nance for covering. One-person shows can be drudgery.

I'd be honored if you guys checked out my latest blog. The company has asked for more content from me, and I intend to oblige.

Glad to hear all is well. You do a great job and obviously care. Keep up the good work.

johnhannibalsmith
04-20-2017, 12:12 PM
As some of you know, I'm not just a tv analyst, but also mnr's ast racing sec.
And lately we've had difficulty filling entries, which means I'm needed downstairs in the racing office at night. ...

Please tell me that you have Nancy and Berry working overtime in the grandstand clocking trainers for you so you can go Dog the Bounty Hunter on them when they refuse to take your call. :D

garyscpa
04-20-2017, 05:16 PM
That's good. Mark and Nancy are what makes the Mountaineer telecast unique.

Who's the new announcer?

johnhannibalsmith
04-20-2017, 07:06 PM
...
Who's the new announcer?

Oops, you can tell I've been watching and paying attention.

Peter Berry
04-20-2017, 07:48 PM
Who's the new announcer?
Yet to be named.

chenoa
04-20-2017, 09:11 PM
:eek::eek:

mountainman
04-20-2017, 09:32 PM
Oops, you can tell I've been watching and paying attention.

I can't imagine a track our size being blessed with a better race-caller.

Peter Berry
04-20-2017, 10:13 PM
I can't imagine a track our size being blessed with a better race-caller.
Damn auto correct inserting "our size" into your statement. 👍

tanner12oz
04-20-2017, 10:43 PM
Peter is great..truly an attribute to the sport

mountainman
04-20-2017, 10:53 PM
Damn auto correct inserting "our size" into your statement. ��

No worries, mate. They say size doesn't matter.

mountainman
04-20-2017, 11:01 PM
Peter is great..truly an attribute to the sport

Well stated, sir.

mountainman
04-20-2017, 11:17 PM
Please tell me that you have Nancy and Berry working overtime in the grandstand clocking trainers for you so you can go Dog the Bounty Hunter on them when they refuse to take your call. :D

Actually, I'm the good cop. But then again, so is Joe. We both use carrots-never the stick.

mountainman
04-20-2017, 11:26 PM
Except, of course, on agents, horseracing's version of Mr Bill.

mountainman
04-21-2017, 10:40 AM
Glad to hear all is well. You do a great job and obviously care. Keep up the good work.

tx, Craig. btw--got great tennis tip from online video...don't look up until your shot has crossed the net and entered your opponents territory..guy said if you look up soon enough to see shot still on your side of net..you won't like what you see..lol

AltonKelsey
04-21-2017, 12:44 PM
How expensive is it to go HD? If not prohibitive, why not.

You could probably get a better look with a $50 HD Webcam

cj
04-21-2017, 04:37 PM
tx, Craig. btw--got great tennis tip from online video...don't look up until your shot has crossed the net and entered your opponents territory..guy said if you look up soon enough to see shot still on your side of net..you won't like what you see..lol

That is a good tip. My go to thought when I'm struggling is to keep my head rock solid, ground strokes, serve (especially), and even volleys. It probably accomplishes the same thing as your tip.

thespaah
04-23-2017, 02:55 PM
That is a good tip. My go to thought when I'm struggling is to keep my head rock solid, ground strokes, serve (especially), and even volleys. It probably accomplishes the same thing as your tip.

in any activity where eye hand coordination is needed, the one thing that will play havoc with ball striking is head movement.
Jack Nicklaus was talking extensively about his golf move. One of the things he struggled with was head movement. He was a very stocky , muscular built low to the ground body type. So to combat the head movement that affected his swing., he learned that by turning his head slightly to the right before staring his back swing, he was able to keep his head more in place which helped better focus on the ball.
Also. if you watch in slow motion the better hitters in baseball,. They watch the ball all the way to the point of contact.

EasyGoer89
05-02-2017, 06:25 PM
Mountain only game in town tonight the Pools should be giant.

But they won't be.

PaceAdvantage
05-02-2017, 06:29 PM
Mountain only game in town tonight the Pools should be giant.

But they won't be.I couldn't find a single race to bet. I don't know anyone but total degenerates that would be pining to throw money at that card.

thaskalos
05-02-2017, 06:44 PM
I couldn't find a single race to bet. I don't know anyone but total degenerates that would be pining to throw money at that card.

I was thinking of putting serious money at risk on that card...but your assessment here dissuaded me. :)

Lemon Drop Husker
05-02-2017, 06:46 PM
I couldn't find a single race to bet. I don't know anyone but total degenerates that would be pining to throw money at that card.

I just took the :5: in the 1st, who do you got? :coffee:

PaceAdvantage
05-02-2017, 07:10 PM
I was thinking of putting serious money at risk on that card...but your assessment here dissuaded me. :)I stand corrected...:lol:

EasyGoer89
05-02-2017, 10:15 PM
Pick 5:

11111


:headbanger:

Paid over 600 for 2, not bad!

BombsAway Bob
05-02-2017, 10:30 PM
Pick 5:

11111


:headbanger:

Paid over 600 for 2, not bad!

@TVG #NoahAndAThreeWaySpecial
5th #Mountaineer
$.50 Pick-5
# 1,2,4
W# 1,2
W# 1,5
W# 1,3
W# 1,2
=$24.
Trying to beat Spark Kit in 6th.

8:37 PM - 2 May 2017

https://twitter.com/BombsawayBob/status/859567510156451840

theotherside
05-02-2017, 11:58 PM
Nice work!

rrpic6
05-03-2017, 09:51 AM
Also had the 1,1,1,1,1,1 Pick 5! In record time of 3 minutes to 'cap to boot!:coffee:

May 2, 2017
8:30 PM 727690 Race 5 Mountaineer Park $0.50 P5 (PWHL) 1, 2 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 / 1 / 1, 3, 4 / 1

Bet $15 $174.70

RR

Thomas Roulston
05-05-2017, 03:35 PM
MNR runs not only 7 1/2 furlongs on turf, but even 7 furlongs on turf.

My kind of track! :)