Prez election recount thread, so it begins

[JustRalph]

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/25/report-thousands-wisconsin-votes-trump-recount-begins.html

Reports Trump has been stripped of 5k votes already?

Not sure of the veracity

[BELMONT 6-6-09]

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/25/report-thousands-wisconsin-votes-trump-recount-begins.html

Reports Trump has been stripped of 5k votes already?

Not sure of the veracity

Ralph, personally I will enjoy these lunatic liberals keeping their hopes alive to steal the election, hopefully more pain and tears on their part. As a former boxer I would love to face these loser liberal men in a ring and show them real pain, give them something real to cry about. Ha ha

[elysiantraveller]

Yes... because in America we only care if the tallies support our candidate not the actual integrity of the election process...

Really...?

Who cares or is upset with recounts being requested?

[BELMONT 6-6-09]

Yes... because in America we only care if the tallies support our candidate not the actual integrity of the election process...

Really...?

Who cares or is upset with recounts being requested?

The left specializes in cheating with their president Obama encouraging the illegals to vote and break the law..disgraceful words from a horrible president!!

[Tom]

- What specifically supposedly went wrong with the first count?
-Is the recount legal?
-What is the protocol for have a recount?
-Is the recount being supervised by both parties?

-As in 2004, are the libs only recounting selected counties where they feel
they can gain votes, or are all counties being recounted?

-The election process is secure and safe - Dan and mostie said so.

[classhandicapper]

Like I said in another thread, there is ZERO EVIDENCE of any issue in the counts.

Nate Silver (who obviously tilts left) has already reviewed all the numbers in the controversial states and basically called the people claiming there are problems incompetent (but in nicer words). He also said Jill Stein raising money off it looks a lot like a scam (though he didn't call it a scam). This issue is dead except in the minds of the delusional leftists and delusional Trump haters.

[elysiantraveller]

Like I said in another thread, there is ZERO EVIDENCE of any issue in the counts.

Nate Silver (who obviously tilts left) has already reviewed all the numbers in the controversial states and basically called the people claiming there are problems incompetent (but in nicer words). He also said Jill Stein raising money off it looks a lot like a scam (though he didn't call it a scam). This issue is dead except in the minds of the delusional leftists and delusional Trump haters.

I agree but really why do people care if there are recounts...? I would like the counts to be correct.

[tucker6]

I agree but really why do people care if there are recounts...? I would like the counts to be correct.
I've always found it best to look ahead rather than behind. It seems pointless to spend resources getting things EXACTLY right when good enough will do. As they say, perfect is the enemy of good.

[classhandicapper]

I agree but really why do people care if there are recounts...? I would like the counts to be correct.

I might agree if there was also a way to subtract out all the illegal immigrants that voted for HRC like the president asked them to do.

The numbers are accurate enough to know there's no way Hillary won. That's good enough for me. The rest of this is just a way for elements on the left to try to de-legitimize our election of Trump to weaken him.

[Clocker]

- What specifically supposedly went wrong with the first count?
-Is the recount legal?
-What is the protocol for have a recount?
-Is the recount being supervised by both parties?



To get a recount, you have to file a petition and pay a fee. In addition to the filing fees, my understanding is that both sides will have their own observers and lawyers watching the process. The lawyers are expected to costs as much as the filing fees.

The combined cost of requesting all three recounts is expected to surpass $2 million. The filing fee in Wisconsin alone is about $1.1 million, Stein's campaign manager said. The fees in Michigan and Pennsylvania are $500,000 and $600,000, respectively. Wisconsin's deadline to file for a recount is Friday. The other two states' deadlines are next week.

The Clinton campaign announced that they weren't going to contest the results, but as long as a recount is going to happen anyway, they will take part. :rolleyes:

[jk3521]

The Clinton campaign announced that they weren't going to contest the results, but as long as a recount is going to happen anyway, they will take part. :rolleyes:
:lol:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3973222/You-need-concede-President-Obama-called-Clinton-election-night-urge-step-results-turned-against-her.html

[EasyGoer89]

This is so amazing to me that they are doing this after admonishing trump for not admitting he would accept the decision. You can't make this up

[Greyfox]

I agree but really why do people care if there are recounts...? I would like the counts to be correct.

Why aren't States that Hillary won being recounted if it is about the integrity of the election?

[Marshall Bennett]

As with the past 2 elections, remove the huge inner city gutter element and all the blue on the map disappears. I suppose they'll only recount rural America. :bang:

[davew]

This is so amazing to me that they are doing this after admonishing trump for not admitting he would accept the decision. You can't make this up


What can a Democrat say that you will believe when they are in a campaign?

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I agree but really why do people care if there are recounts...? I would like the counts to be correct.

Why aren't States that Hillary won being recounted if it is about the integrity of the election?
CHECKMATE....

[Inner Dirt]

This is so amazing to me that they are doing this after admonishing trump for not admitting he would accept the decision. You can't make this up

Liberal hypocrites, two words that seem to belong together quite often.

[woodtoo]

Liberal hypocrites, two words that seem to belong together quite often.

True dat. They are not really interested in a recount (cant win with one)
only looking at any possible way to steal, lie or con their way to a win.
These Idiotic Liberal hypocrites are void of rational honest thought and are
proving it right before our eyes for the whole world to see.

And they are so disrespectful, it makes me sick to the stomach.
Hope they all fade away! And fast.

[barahona44]

Why aren't States that Hillary won being recounted if it is about the integrity of the election?
All the GOP has to do is pony up the money if they feel something's not right.People VOLUNTARILY gave private donations to see this through.If they want to throw their money away,that's their right.When taxpayer money is involved for tilting at windmills, then I'll start squawking.

[woodtoo]

Why not contest the States with the closest counts N.H. Nevada and Virginia.
Yeah I thought so. Makes too much sense for Liberal hypocrites.
Did not CHC concede the election did she not say it wound be a crime not to accept the results of said election, I thought so. If CHC will not go away peacefully all gloves are off. Offer any Nation willing to prosecute her under International laws do so. Charge her with the full extent of the law and treat her like the lowlife criminal she is. Crooked witch.

[woodtoo]

All the GOP has to do is pony up the money if they feel something's not right.People VOLUNTARILY gave private donations to see this through.If they want to throw their money away,that's their right.When taxpayer money is involved for tilting at windmills, then I'll start squawking.
Stein is basically stealing donors money, so you suggest Republicans do the same. News flash Trump won!
Are you also stuck in denial. :bang:

[Greyfox]

All the GOP has to do is pony up the money if they feel something's not right.People VOLUNTARILY gave private donations to see this through.If they want to throw their money away,that's their right.When taxpayer money is involved for tilting at windmills, then I'll start squawking.

We know GOP can do that.
But it is Stein who is concerned about the integrity of the election.
If Stein was being honest about that, she'd also investigate States that Hillary won.
Face it. Stein is either scamming the public, or she doesn't want Trump as President.

[Tom]

Side thought, how can any election have integrity if a democrat is one of the candidates????

[Inner Dirt]

Side thought, how can any election have integrity if a democrat is one of the candidates????

Even though I didn't agree with much of what he stood for I thought Bernie Sanders seemed pretty honest. Kind of like he was the same person whether the cameras were rolling or not, the exact opposite of a phony like Hillary Clinton.

[Tom]

I think he believed his policies publicly and privately.
Problem is, all his policies are rank garbage and un-American.

He is a natural to take over for Castro.

[Clocker]

This scam keeps getting better and better. It turns out you can't file a petition for a state-wide recount in PA. You have to file a court case with sufficient evidence of fraud to get a judge to order a recount. Stein has already stated that she has no evidence of fraud. People who donated to her should sue for fraud.

Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. Billy Penn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt”, it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034)

[EasyGoer89]

This scam keeps getting better and better. It turns out you can't file a petition for a state-wide recount in PA. You have to file a court case with sufficient evidence of fraud to get a judge to order a recount. Stein has already stated that she has no evidence of fraud. People who donated to her should sue for fraud.



http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034)

however much 'respect' she had before this incident has certainly taken a hit, whatever integrity she had or respect people gave her has also dropped down, she turned herself into a punch line.

[boxcar]

Why aren't States that Hillary won being recounted if it is about the integrity of the election?

They'd find too many votes by dead people and illegal aliens.

[_______]

Of Wisconsin, Pennsylvannia, and Michigan, the closest vote is in Michigan. And if that vote were to change the winning candidate it would exceed the largest margin of any recount that changed an election in history.

The election is over. It was free and fair.

The losers need to reasses their messaging. These last two paragraphs are exactly what I would have been telling Trump supporters crying in their soup had things turned out differently.

[Tom]

This scam keeps getting better and better. It turns out you can't file a petition for a state-wide recount in PA. You have to file a court case with sufficient evidence of fraud to get a judge to order a recount. Stein has already stated that she has no evidence of fraud. People who donated to her should sue for fraud.

Maybe she thinks the law means any fraud, so her fraud is all she needs? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JustRalph]

This scam keeps getting better and better. It turns out you can't file a petition for a state-wide recount in PA. You have to file a court case with sufficient evidence of fraud to get a judge to order a recount. Stein has already stated that she has no evidence of fraud. People who donated to her should sue for fraud.



http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034)

Just like any court case........all you need is the right judge

[classhandicapper]

Of Wisconsin, Pennsylvannia, and Michigan, the closest vote is in Michigan. And if that vote were to change the winning candidate it would exceed the largest margin of any recount that changed an election in history.

The election is over. It was free and fair.

The losers need to reassess their messaging. These last two paragraphs are exactly what I would have been telling Trump supporters crying in their soup had things turned out differently.

100% agree.

If Trump would have lost, there may have been some accusations of fraud from the fringe right, but the MSW would have been up in arms about it and put it to bed. To some extent this is coming from the democrat party also, not just Jill Stein, and the media is not trying very hard to put it to bed.

Even worse than this are reports that delegates are getting threats on their lives if they vote for Trump.

[EasyGoer89]

100% agree.

If Trump would have lost, there may have been some accusations of fraud from the fringe right, but the MSW would have been up in arms about it and put it to bed. To some extent this is coming from the democrat party also, not just Jill Stein, and the media is not trying very hard to put it to bed.

Even worse than this are reports that delegates are getting threats on their lives if they vote for Trump.

These lightweights and chokers were up in arms BEFORE the election even started.

I think they pulled this stunt to make it appear that trump would be prosecuting due to 'revenge' which is obviously not true if she didn't do anything wrong she's got nothing to worry about. Maybe snopes can debunk that she broke any laws at all, after all, if they say it's fake it must be true :rolleyes:

[classhandicapper]

Maybe snopes can debunk that she broke any laws at all, after all, if they say it's fake it must be true :rolleyes:

I used to consider Snopes a reasonable source of information, but now that I've had a chance to see how they handled a few controversial stories, I wouldn't exactly put them in the "fake news" category, but they are clearly in the heavily biased bought and paid for category.

[EMD4ME]

Ralph, personally I will enjoy these lunatic liberals keeping their hopes alive to steal the election, hopefully more pain and tears on their part. As a former boxer I would love to face these loser liberal men in a ring and show them real pain, give them something real to cry about. Ha ha


:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[davew]

Jill Stein has raised almost twice as much for the second count as she did for her presidential run ...

I wonder how much has come from the Clinton crime syndicate?

[FantasticDan]

Tweet I read today:

The President-elect just announced that he won a fraudulent election and that our democracy has been compromised.

Commence the audit.

:ThmbUp:

[fast4522]

Tweet I read today:

The President-elect just announced that he won a fraudulent election and that our democracy has been compromised.

Commence the audit.

:ThmbUp:


Tweet I read today:

The democrats are screwed, any attempt at anything will result in complete failure.

[EasyGoer89]

Tweet I read today:

The democrats are screwed, any attempt at anything will result in complete failure.

https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU16/status/803090625906118656

[ElKabong]

Tweet I read today:

The President-elect just announced that he won a fraudulent election and that our democracy has been compromised.

Commence the audit.

:ThmbUp:

Never saw a plane crash twice before. Should be fun.

[Marshall Bennett]

Tweet I read today:

The President-elect just announced that he won a fraudulent election and that our democracy has been compromised.

Commence the audit.

:ThmbUp:
Only a true liberal like yourself would believe and repeat such garbage, just to fight conservatism to the bitter end. Pathetic. :ThmbDown:

[OntheRail]

This scam keeps getting better and better. It turns out you can't file a petition for a state-wide recount in PA. You have to file a court case with sufficient evidence of fraud to get a judge to order a recount. Stein has already stated that she has no evidence of fraud. People who donated to her should sue for fraud.



http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/27/recount-effort-hits-a-major-snag-417034)
Sure she knows this... that is why she has a disclaimer on the Donate page... stating not all the money collected may go towards the recount effort. So into an account to prop up her life style choices... campaign strategy meeting in Hawaii or lease this or that. High times for the "Green Party".

She's playing the Zombie Dem's suckers... taking them for a ride down tear filled river of De Nile. :lol:

[OntheRail]

Only a true liberal like yourself would believe and repeat such garbage, just to fight conservatism to the bitter end. Pathetic. :ThmbDown:

Come on... FanDan... MoPo... hcap... H4C have all no doubt ponied up money to Stein's effort.

[FantasticDan]

Only a true liberal like yourself would believe and repeat such garbage, just to fight conservatism to the bitter end. Pathetic. :ThmbDown:What the hell are you talking about? In his own words Trump just said that there were millions of illegal votes cast and fraud in multiple states. He unwittingly (cuz he's a fool) made a case for the recount..

I totally get if you're telling me not to believe and repeat his garbage, but maybe this time he has a point.. :lol:

[Tom]

How did this happen?
YOU guys said it could not happen.

SO....if you guys agree that there could have been voter fraud, then you must now agree we NEED photo ID to vote.

Right?

[JustRalph]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/recounts-rarely-reverse-election-results/


"Recounts typically don’t swing enough votes to change the winner. Out of 4,687 statewide general elections between 2000 and 2015, just 27 were followed by recounts, according to data compiled by FairVote, a nonpartisan group that researches elections and promotes electoral reform. Just three of those 27 recounts resulted in a change in the outcome, all leading to wins for Democrats: Al Franken’s win in Minnesota’s 2008 U.S. Senate race, Thomas M. Salmon’s win in Vermont’s 2006 auditor election and Christine Gregoire’s win in Washington’s 2004 gubernatorial race."

[PaceAdvantage]

I say recount all you want. I have said and maintain that elections can and will be tampered with as much as can be gotten away with...

BUT, who's checking the checkers, so to speak? :lol:

Who's to say there isn't going to be tampering during the RECOUNT? :eek:

[Tom]

What is done differently in a recount that was not done in the count?

[onefast99]

What is done differently in a recount that was not done in the count?
They look to make sure each and every ballot was given to the correct candidate.....right

"its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes"

[JustRalph]

Missed the PA deadline

Looks like they will file a lawsuit

[Clocker]

Federal law says that recounts must be completed within 35 days of an election. That would be Dec. 13, two weeks from tomorrow.

[letswastemoney]

I say prosecute and lock Hillary Clinton up at this point.

I had some sympathy for her when she lost, and preferred if Donald Trump just left her alone in retirement.

Sympathy gone. She promised to accept the results and lied once again. Lock her up.

[davew]

I say prosecute and lock Hillary Clinton up at this point.

I had some sympathy for her when she lost, and preferred if Donald Trump just left her alone in retirement.

Sympathy gone. She promised to accept the results and lied once again. Lock her up.


Blasphemy, she is going to run for governor of New York. Anyway, she did NOT break any if her rules while at the state department....

[mostpost]

Ralph, personally I will enjoy these lunatic liberals keeping their hopes alive to steal the election, hopefully more pain and tears on their part. As a former boxer I would love to face these loser liberal men in a ring and show them real pain, give them something real to cry about. Ha ha
You're a former boxer? That explains a lot.

[mostpost]

This is so amazing to me that they are doing this after admonishing trump for not admitting he would accept the decision. You can't make this up
It's amazing that you cannot see the difference between accepting the results and making sure the results are correct. If they have already found 5,000 Trump votes that were incorrectly counted, there are probably more.

[Clocker]

Blasphemy, she is going to run for governor of New York. Anyway, she did NOT break any if her rules while at the state department....

Ron Fournier is a journalist who is a liberal but is generally objective in analyzing the political scene. He says this is what he has picked up from talking to Hillary's close supporters.

This morning Ron Fournier, who’s been covering the Clintons since the 1980s, offers an intensely groan-inducing report: “Raising doubts about legitimacy of election, even w/out overturning result, is part of Clinton’s plans to keep her options open for 2020… Make some calls. You’ll hear the same from her confidants.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/morning-jolt/442509/hillary-clinton-2020-america-suffering-more

[woodtoo]

Mr. Fournier is an illusionist.

[EMD4ME]

I say prosecute and lock Hillary Clinton up at this point.

I had some sympathy for her when she lost, and preferred if Donald Trump just left her alone in retirement.

Sympathy gone. She promised to accept the results and lied once again. Lock her up.

I totally agree, felt the same. Lock the witch up at this point.

[Clocker]

Mr. Fournier is an illusionist.

If he says he heard it in the Hillary camp, I believe him that they are at least talking about it.

[mostpost]

Why aren't States that Hillary won being recounted if it is about the integrity of the election?
How do you not know the answer to that question. Laws vary, but in most cases, automatic recounts occur only if the final result is within a very close margin. Otherwise, the losing candidate must request a recount for which he or she must pay.

Clinton won 13 of the states which she won by double digits. The only two states which could be considered within the margin of error would be Minnesota and New Hampshire. Clinton has a lead of 1.5% in Minnesota and 0.4% in New Hampshire. It is up to the Trump people to call for a recount.

[Ocala Mike]

More troubling than the recount bs is the reality of the future leader of the free world casting aspersions on our election process with his baseless assertion that there were millions of illegal votes cast.

Asshat didn't find that in the transition manual, I don't think - got it off "Info Wars," his go to news source.

Maybe 18 months for him is optimistic.

[mostpost]

Why not contest the States with the closest counts N.H. Nevada and Virginia.
Yeah I thought so. Makes too much sense for Liberal hypocrites.
Did not CHC concede the election did she not say it wound be a crime not to accept the results of said election, I thought so. If CHC will not go away peacefully all gloves are off. Offer any Nation willing to prosecute her under International laws do so. Charge her with the full extent of the law and treat her like the lowlife criminal she is. Crooked witch.
Those were not the closest counts. Well, New Hampshire was second closest, but Nevada (7th) and Virginia (11th) are well down the list. Four of the top five closest states are states which Trump won.

You keep saying "I thought so." There is no evidence that you ever thought anything.

[fast4522]

More troubling than the recount bs is the reality of the future leader of the free world casting aspersions on our election process with his baseless assertion that there were millions of illegal votes cast.

Asshat didn't find that in the transition manual, I don't think - got it off "Info Wars," his go to news source.

Maybe 18 months for him is optimistic.

Do not be completely surprised if all illegal votes cast are deported in early waves with the gang bangers. And only then will there be a review of who to let go and fast track back. Save some of your flipping out for that time.

[OntheRail]

How do you not know the answer to that question. Laws vary, but in most cases, automatic recounts occur only if the final result is within a very close margin. Otherwise, the losing candidate must request a recount for which he or she must pay.

Clinton won 13 of the states which she won by double digits. The only two states which could be considered within the margin of error would be Minnesota and New Hampshire. Clinton has a lead of 1.5% in Minnesota and 0.4% in New Hampshire. It is up to the Trump people to call for a recount.
Or Jilly Stein... who only cares about voter integrity :lol: :lol: . Oh what was I thinking :rolleyes:. Clinton won those by a red hair so must be kosher.

And funny those 5K of over votes all came off Trump. Odd in the BLUE State all the supposed phantom votes leaned red. :faint:

[fast4522]

I say recount all you want. I have said and maintain that elections can and will be tampered with as much as can be gotten away with...

BUT, who's checking the checkers, so to speak? :lol:

Who's to say there isn't going to be tampering during the RECOUNT? :eek:


Maybe the walking dead dreams, looks like he is ready to go to hell.

[Clocker]

The dog ate my petition for a recount, so I didn't get it in on time.

According to the Department of State, there were 9,163 voting precincts in Pennsylvania during the 2016 election. So Stein would need over 27,000 voters to file notarized affidavits, but it's unclear if that avenue is even still available.

According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, the deadline under the law for a voter-initiated recount at the county level had been Monday, Nov. 21. Many counties missed it but nearly half have already certified their results, precluding recounts there. That makes a lawsuit the only remaining option for initiating a statewide recount.

Complicating any recount effort is the fact that Pennsylvania is one of 15 states that use electronic voting machines that don't have a paper-backed audit.




This woman was running for president and can't even figure out the election process? :eek:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305)

[fast4522]

you guys often called Hillary a hag, she's a sorry hag.

[davew]

Soros dumped a few more million - early WI recount finds 400 more for Trump

[Clocker]

Or Jilly Stein... who only cares about voter integrity :lol: :lol: .

She only cares about herself and her so-called political party. There is a lot of speculation in the press that she took enough votes away from Hillary to cause Trump to win. If she gets the blame for the results, she and her party are dead. No more money or votes from a lot of libs.

If she can prove fraud, or at least put that idea in the minds of enough people on the left, the Greenies stay in business.

[JustRalph]

Soros dumped a few more million - early WI recount finds 400 more for Trump

Where did this come from? I can't find it?

[MargieRose]

She only cares about herself and her so-called political party. There is a lot of speculation in the press that she took enough votes away from Hillary to cause Trump to win. If she gets the blame for the results, she and her party are dead. No more money or votes from a lot of libs.

If she can prove fraud, or at least put that idea in the minds of enough people on the left, the Greenies stay in business.

“If she can prove fraud, or at least put that idea in the minds of enough people on the left, the Greenies stay in business.”

Exactly my thought. If Jill Stein can find MORE votes for Trump, whether mistakenly counted or through some type of voter manipulation/fraud, she in reality discredits the Democratic Party even more than they already have been, leaving the 2020 election door wide open for more support for HER party...the Green Party. But, this can only work for her if Trump falters in the way he handles his presidency to a great degree; otherwise, her scheme fails, and Trump goes on for another four years with, yet, even more support. The “count” is all about her and HER party...get those disillusioned and stay-at-home and Bernie leftist votes!

[OntheRail]

[i] The “count” is all about her and HER party...get those disillusioned and stay-at-home and Bernie leftist votes!
Stein could not rally up a pack of dogs with a pork chop hung around her neck. :lol:

In four years all those "stay-at-home and Bernie leftist votes!" On Election Day will be munching out and tokin' up... looking at each other saying.

Dude weren't was spos dah doing sumthin' taday man?

Bra whatever it was will do somthin bout it later... pass the doobie to the left front side. :cool:

[wisconsin]

Where did this come from? I can't find it?


Recounting has not even begun yet...

[OntheRail]

The dog ate my petition for a recount, so I didn't get it in on time.

According to the Department of State, there were 9,163 voting precincts in Pennsylvania during the 2016 election. So Stein would need over 27,000 voters to file notarized affidavits, but it's unclear if that avenue is even still available. According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, the deadline under the law for a voter-initiated recount at the county level had been Monday, Nov. 21. Many counties missed it but nearly half have already certified their results, precluding recounts there. That makes a lawsuit the only remaining option for initiating a statewide recount. Complicating any recount effort is the fact that Pennsylvania is one of 15 states that use electronic voting machines that don't have a paper-backed audit

This woman was running for president and can't even figure out the election process? :eek:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305)
So would they not have to file suit in each and every county court in PA their request for a recount and only after each jurisdiction agreed have them consolidated in State Court for a ruling? What I'm getting at is I don't think recount will happen in PA.

[stuball]

She won't have to pay Pa. so more money in her pockets

:mad:

[Clocker]

So would they not have to file suit in each and every county court in PA their request for a recount and only after each jurisdiction agreed have them consolidated in State Court for a ruling? What I'm getting at is I don't think recount will happen in PA.

Not enough time. Federal law says a recount must be completed within 35 days of the election. That would be Dec. 13, two weeks from today.

[delayjf]

Interesting take by Ron Fournier as to why the Clinton's are staying involved.

"Raising doubts about legitimacy of election, even w/out overturning result, is part of Clinton's plans to keep her options open for 2020."

Keeping her options open for a 2020 run might keep money flowing into the Clinton Foundation.

[boxcar]

More troubling than the recount bs is the reality of the future leader of the free world casting aspersions on our election process with his baseless assertion that there were millions of illegal votes cast.

Asshat didn't find that in the transition manual, I don't think - got it off "Info Wars," his go to news source.

Maybe 18 months for him is optimistic.

Let's see...there's about 11 million illegals here in the country. And none of them voted for Clinton? Are you this naive -- especially after Obama gave them the green light assuring the illegals that the bad guys from ICE would not be hunting them down afterward?

[ElKabong]

Interesting take by Ron Fournier as to why the Clinton's are staying involved.



Keeping her options open for a 2020 run might keep money flowing into the Clinton Foundation.

Imo, the dems have tossed her in the trash can with last weeks DRFs. In 2020 they'll run a ticket that will consist of someone of color, and someone who is 50 yo or less. They learned their lesson. The past 25 years they've only won with young, energetic types (Clinton) and someone of color, even tho he had zero experience (Obama).

The DNC will wise up. As stupid as they were the past 18 months in handing their house affairs, they'll have their shit together for 2020. Their path to success is too simple and they can see that now....energize the black vote, energize the younger voters. They didn't have those two components this year and it cost them

[Clocker]

Imo, the dems have tossed her in the trash can with last weeks DRFs. In 2020 they'll run a ticket that will consist of someone of color, and someone who is 50 yo or less. They learned their lesson. The past 25 years they've only won with young, energetic types (Clinton) and someone of color, even tho he had zero experience (Obama).



Does that eliminate Wicked Witch Warren?

They might even listen to what Bill Clinton has been telling them all during this campaign, which is the need to focus on white working class voters in places like PA, MI, and WI. Oops!

[fast4522]

Add something to it.

[Inner Dirt]

Let's see...there's about 11 million illegals here in the country. And none of them voted for Clinton? Are you this naive -- especially after Obama gave them the green light assuring the illegals that the bad guys from ICE would not be hunting them down afterward?

As someone who lived in the liberal dump of California for almost a half century a few things are very obvious. California has more illegal immigrants than any other state by far. In no state is it easier to register and vote. You don't even need I.D. to vote or register. If a person thinks illegal immigrants don't vote in Cali they are extremely naive or in denial.

[PaceAdvantage]

Maybe 18 months for him is optimistic.Sure, because the prognostications on Trump, by his critics, over the past 18 months or so, have...been...so....accurate...to date... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tom]

The man who could NEVER win, will now NEVER last his full term.




NEVER mind. :lol:

[EasyGoer89]

Sure, because the prognostications on Trump, by his critics, over the past 18 months or so, have...been...so....accurate...to date... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump has owned the doubters, critics, cynics and haters like nobody has ever done in the history of our country in any forum or arena. Trumps supporters have owned the other sides supporters, doubters, cynics and haters like nobody has ever done in the history of our country. He's going to keep punking people until they get on board.

He's also going to expose Obama as one of the worst presidents ever and stamp himself as one of the best ever. He won't get credit though because his haters, doubters, cynics and critics are too far into this to stop now, they're going to go to the bottom of the well.

The difference in this election is simple yet not complex it comes down to people who don't vote party, the people in the middle got swayed to the side with the smarter argument not the candidate with the weaker argument who had more money to spend. If trump punked Hillary without having anything close to the cash that was behind her that just goes to show how far superior of a candidate he is and will be going forward.

In closing I'd like to call out anyone who bought into the dem narrative that these were '2 flawed candidates'. Hillary was running on a 'trump is bad' message and not an 'I'm really good' message. Even Oprah said 'you don't have to like her' they were banking on winning as the establishment candidate because people are unlikely to vote in a new candidate with 'just as many flaws'

None of the 'trump is bad' stuff has ever held any weight or water, just on the bought and sold argument which makes him an elite candidate, we don't see candidates come down the pike too often who don't cave into the special interests.

Voting against trump was rooted in very silly and superficial reasoning, and the funniest thing about all of this is that many otherwise smart people bought into this hook line and sinker and still to this day don't realize how badly they were played by the silliest most ridiculous candidate we have seen in our lifetimes, mrs William Jefferson Clinton.

[delayjf]

In 2020 they'll run a ticket that will consist of someone of color, and someone who is 50 yo or less. They learned their lesson.

My guess right now would be Camila Harris the new Senator from CA.

[EasyGoer89]

Add something to it.

Yes, refrigeration provided by Carrier. :lol:

[JustRalph]

My guess right now would be Camila Harris the new Senator from CA.

Those Hispanic boys from Texas won't let it happen. Whatever their names are. Corey Booker and those guys have been eyeing 2020 like a blood hound over a steak. When Elizabeth Warrenn sticks her head out, Booker et al are going to make her look like the fool she is.

[fast4522]

Yes, refrigeration provided by Carrier. :lol:

There you go. :ThmbUp:

[Clocker]

Looks like it is over. Hillary needed MI, WI, and PA to win.

As most people are still trying to figure out exactly what Jill Stein is doing and why she's doing it, a judge in Montgomery County Pennsylvania, just north of Philadelphia, has decided he's seen enough. After hearing arguments from attorneys representing Jill Stein’s campaign and the Montgomery County Board of Elections, Judge Bernard A. Moore dismissed the petitions of voters in 78 precincts to recount votes or forensically analyze voting machines due a lack of evidence and improperly filed petitions.

Are her contributors going to ask for refunds? Are they the same people who are not going to get refunds from the Clinton Foundation? :D

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-01/more-bad-news-jill-stein-pennsylvania-judge-blocks-recount-petitions

[OntheRail]

We've been saying for weeks now. Ding Dong the Witch is dead. Along with her flying monkeys it seems. :lol:

While this should come as a shock to precisely no one other than some disaffected Hillary supporters who were hoping for a miracle, Jill Stein's request for a full "hand recount" in the state of Wisconsin has officially been denied by Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn. According to the StarTribune, the request was denied after the judge found that Stein failed to show any mistakes or irregularities that would bring a machine recount into question.

A Wisconsin judge has refused to order local officials to conduct the state's presidential recount by hand.

[JustRalph]

They'll just continue judge shopping

[fast4522]

They'll just continue judge shopping

Maybe, more than likely their all done so get the fork out and ready.

[JustRalph]

They just found 23k more votes for Hillary in PA.

She's still down 46k, but they haven't even started the recount

[EasyGoer89]

They just found 23k more votes for Hillary in PA.

She's still down 46k, but they haven't even started the recount

Yes, seems very believable.:eek:

[ReplayRandall]

They just found 23k more votes for Hillary in PA.

She's still down 46k, but they haven't even started the recount

Recount will never happen...way too many hurdles to be a viable claim, judges will throw it out.

[jk3521]

Get your copy !!! :D

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=madam+president&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmadam+pre sident+newsweek.TRS1&_nkw=madam+president+newsweek&_sacat=0

[FakeNameChanged]

Wouldn't a hand recount take about 8 years?

[Inner Dirt]

Get your copy !!! :D

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=madam+president&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmadam+pre sident+newsweek.TRS1&_nkw=madam+president+newsweek&_sacat=0

They are going for over $200, wow. Are people buying them as collectors items or something to keep on the coffee table to annoy their liberal friends?
I would do it, but I would be afraid they would see it and start crying again.

[Greyfox]

Stop the Presses!
They found 1 more vote for Hillary in Wisconsin.

[Tom]

And the Green Party says they do not support all this.

[OntheRail]

Stop the Presses!
They found 1 more vote for Hillary in Wisconsin.

And according to the article they are paying re tabulators $25 per half day to recount... that $6.50 per hour. I thought the Dems and the Greenies where for $15 per hour. I guess they only support that when it's Other Peoples Money. :rolleyes:

And another odd pick up... if you look at 3-4 day old news feeds it'll say Stein raised over 6 million for recount effort.... but today it raised over 4 for the recount. Seeing how the trees are leaning against her. I guess ol' Jilley skimmed some off some green for "other uses" in the last few days. :eek:

[OntheRail]

And the Green Party says they do not support all this.
I wonder if The Green Party will file suit against Jill Stein to surrender the excess funds of the failed recount scam to them? And will Trump have the IRS audit Stein for fraud and misuse. Stay tuned to as the worm turns so does your fate. ( dramatic organ here) :lol:

[Ocala Mike]

And will Trump have the IRS audit Stein for fraud and misuse.



Thanks for the memory jog - This is a serious question:

What ever happened to the audit of Trump's taxes? Would this be the first time a sitting president got his taxes audited? Would he have the power to just call HIS OWN AUDIT off? I'm assuming the audit isn't finished yet.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the executive can (or should) dictate to the IRS who gets audited or not (but of course, political pressure works in strange ways).

[JustRalph]

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/03/breaking-green-party-withdraws-pa-recount-demand/

She's done

Out of money

Withdraws from PA

[JustRalph]

Rumors that Philly is going to recount anyway.

? Why? Who knows

[JustRalph]

http://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2016/12/04/latest-wisconsin-recount-numbers-have-trump-extending-his-lead-by-39-votes/

[JustRalph]

Now Florida

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512641157#op

[EasyGoer89]

Now Florida

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512641157#op

'With the fate of the election hanging in the balance'?

[Tom]

Stop the Presses!
They found 1 more vote for Hillary in Wisconsin.

As of Saturday night, Trump has now GAINED 3 VOTES!:lol:

[woodtoo]

Were well into round 16 she's been knocked out once but this being such a great match the people demand another KO punch so Trump delivers the final blow. POW its over!!! .....but wait they are demanding to see the original scorecards again . Don't make her take another her face is already a bloody mess. :D

[JustRalph]

Judge orders Michigan recount to begin

[EasyGoer89]

Judge orders Michigan recount to begin

This is the one state that took forever to report, seems like they just finished 'counting' a few days ago. They can recount and maybe award Michigan to Hillary but I have a sneaking suspicion that trump might not be so gung ho to help them with their problems if they take away his electorals there.

[JustRalph]

State Court says "stop" the recount in Michigan.

Stein does not have standing per the court because she can't win

[MikeH]

The Federal judge that ordered the recount to begin was appointed by Obama.

[davew]

State Court says "stop" the recount in Michigan.

Stein does not have standing per the court because she can't win



but, but, but.... there is a key area in Detroit that had 75,000 ballots with no vote for president.

[reckless]

The great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania today certified the 2016 election results that put President Donald J. Trump 'over the top' on his way to his landslide victory.

Any talk of count every vote and make every vote count, especially in the country's No. 1 cesspool, Philadelphia, will now be ignored and laughed at.

[JustRalph]

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/12/06/open-and-shut-michigan-court-of-appeals-stops-recount-says-jill-stein-is-not-an-aggrieved-candidate/

Some info and comments

[Marshall Bennett]

Its all but over. This was just another ploy for the Clintons to steal money. I;d hope there will be a followup as to where the donations end up that aren't spent, not that those that gave should be refunded for their ignorance. One day history will show the Clintons to be the most dishonest scam artist that ever walked the earth. I hope a higher order deals with them when their time comes, accordingly, since chances of justice doing it here are slim.
Once again Democrats will say they was robbed....:lol:

[JustRalph]

I heard earlier that this Federal judge is trying to conjure up some kind of "standing" for Stein. They were narrating his mumbo jumbo on the radio this morning.

He's an Obama appointee with known ties to big Dem donors

[JustRalph]

Michigan stopped again at 7:pm central

https://apnews.com/ae2d9b31f0884bd386f103c875ab94b6/The-Latest:-Federal-judge-agrees-to-end-Michigan-recount?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

[JustRalph]

Judge stops Michigan again

8 p tonight

More judge shopping to come

[Clocker]

More judge shopping to come

Tomorrow is Dec. 8, and the federal deadline to complete recounts is Dec. 13. With the courts closed on the weekend, that leaves 4 more shopping days until the buzzer.

[JustRalph]

Tomorrow is Dec. 8, and the federal deadline to complete recounts is Dec. 13. With the courts closed on the weekend, that leaves 4 more shopping days until the buzzer.

That's one theory. She wants to force them to miss the deadline in all three states. Try to invalidate the EC votes.

[Clocker]

That's one theory. She wants to force them to miss the deadline in all three states. Try to invalidate the EC votes.

If the EC doesn't come up with 270 votes for either candidate, the election goes to the House.

If the libs didn't like the EC, they will puke their guts out over a House vote. It is not a vote by member, it is a vote by state. Each state gets one vote.

All of the House Representatives from California vote for president, and who ever gets the most votes from within that group of CA Representatives wins California's one vote. The one House member from Wyoming (a Republican) determines who wins Wyoming's one vote.

By my count, the election was 30 red states, 20 blue states.

[Tom]

Michigan recount halted by the courts.

It's over.
As Lionel Ritchie once said, Hillary is....

"....once, twice, three times a loser!" :lol::lol::lol:

2008
2016
Recount

[Clocker]

Michigan recount halted by the courts.

It's over.
As Lionel Ritchie once said, Hillary is....

"....once, twice, three times a loser!" :lol::lol::lol:

2008
2016
Recount

Jill Stein has already moved on to more pressing matters. Rolling Stone has released its list of the best albums of the year, and reports are that Jill Stein has demanded a recount.

http://thehardtimes.net/2016/12/05/jill-stein-demands-recount-rolling-stones-50-best-albums-2016/ (http://thehardtimes.net/2016/12/05/jill-stein-demands-recount-rolling-stones-50-best-albums-2016/)

[Tom]

She was on with Cavuto yesterday what a total airhead!

[woodtoo]

She was on with Cavuto yesterday what a total airhead!
Ever try talking to a raggedy Ann doll? Same results.

[JustRalph]

Hill loses again....

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/completed-wisconsin-recount-widens-donald-trump-s-lead-by-votes/article_3f61c6ac-5b18-5c27-bf38-e537146bbcdd.html

[MikeH]

And again...

U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond said there were at least six grounds that required him to reject the Green Party's lawsuit...

...Suspicion of a hacked Pennsylvania election "borders on the irrational,"...

..."Most importantly, there is no credible evidence that any `hack' occurred, and compelling evidence that Pennsylvania's voting system was not in any way compromised," Diamond wrote. He also said the lawsuit suffered from a lack of standing, potentially the lack of federal jurisdiction and an "unexplained, highly prejudicial" wait before filing last week's lawsuit, four weeks after the Nov. 8 election...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/12/us-judge-rejects-green-partys-pennsylvania-recount-case.html

[Tom]

Hillary is a professional loser.
She should buy the Washington Generals franchise and revamp it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[EasyGoer89]

Hillary is a professional loser.
She should buy the Washington Generals franchise and revamp it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

She lost a rigged election and now is crying that the other guy won because it was rigged, you can't.

Make.

This stuff.

Up. :D

[davew]

She lost a rigged election and now is crying that the other guy won because it was rigged, you can't.

Make.

This stuff.

Up. :D

They have given up on the recount - new plan is to have electoral voters switch, hard to tell what will happen with the demomafia involved.