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maddog42
11-20-2016, 04:55 PM
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/stormfront-on-steve-bannons-appointment-it-doesnt-get-1789008594

maddog42
11-20-2016, 05:07 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-steve-bannon-really-as-bad-as-all-that/2016/11/15/3c74af12-ab81-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html?utm_term=.cd21869e0b6b

Alt-right “conservatives” and white supremacists are jubilant; the rest of the world, including many Republicans, is nearly apoplectic. Even Glenn Beck, who seems finally to have found the right meds, says Bannon is a “nightmare (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/305932-glenn-beck-bannon-has-clear-tie-to-white-nationalism)” and once compared him to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/25/glenn_beck_says_breitbart_are_like_nazis_for_suppo rting_trump.html). Suffice it to say, there’s no love lost between Beck and the Breitbart Boys.

ElKabong
11-20-2016, 05:47 PM
when Steve Bannon goes to the supermarket, he has 16 items in his basket and checks out in the 15 items or less Express line.

Clocker
11-20-2016, 05:55 PM
The first link did say anything new. The second link was admittedly without factual foundation and full of innuendo and guilt by association.

I have seen few facts about Bannon except that he is a prime figure in the alt-right movement and a yuge Trump supporter. He has stated that he is not a white nationalist, but an economic nationalist. He may be a white nationalist too, but I haven't seen any proof.

It is the economic nationalist that is the scary part to me. Trump has demonstrated that he does not understand trade, and it appears that his adviser on the issue, Bannon, does not either. We live in a global economy, like it or not. Trying to build an economic wall around the country is inane.

Bannon is also beating the drum on Trump's $1 trillion porkulous plan, which is also nuts. Hint, Chuck Schumer says he is on board with that idea, and that it will be easier to sell to the Democrats than to the GOP. :rolleyes:

chadk66
11-20-2016, 06:57 PM
who cares. let him do his job. judge him by that.

Tom
11-20-2016, 07:03 PM
We have just survived 8 years of a thoroughly racist administration.
Your point is?

fast4522
11-20-2016, 07:40 PM
The fact that he has Paul Ryan in his cross hairs means his instincts are spot on. A two faced chameleon who is no better than the crybaby John Boehner

davew
11-20-2016, 08:09 PM
the only thing I have heard about the guy is he graduated top in his class at West Point

fmazur
11-20-2016, 08:34 PM
(It is the economic nationalist that is the scary part to me. Trump has demonstrated that he does not understand trade.)

Business man amassed 10 billion, but does not understand trade????

barahona44
11-20-2016, 08:39 PM
the only thing I have heard about the guy is he graduated top in his class at West Point
Bannon graduated from Virginia Tech, then served as a Naval officer for several years.His daughter, Maureen is a West Point graduate.

davew
11-20-2016, 09:03 PM
Bannon graduated from Virginia Tech, then served as a Naval officer for several years.His daughter, Maureen is a West Point graduate.

oops, it was the other guy Trump wants in his cabinet

Clocker
11-20-2016, 09:52 PM
Business man amassed 10 billion, but does not understand trade????

I was speaking of foreign trade.

Trump made his money in NY real estate based on his father's reputation and using other peoples money. He couldn't even make money running a casino. You don't even have to understand foreign trade or tariffs to run a casino.

Fager Fan
11-21-2016, 07:40 AM
I was speaking of foreign trade.

Trump made his money in NY real estate based on his father's reputation and using other peoples money. He couldn't even make money running a casino. You don't even have to understand foreign trade or tariffs to run a casino.

What makes you think you understand it better than they do?

woodtoo
11-21-2016, 08:54 AM
What makes you think you understand it better than they do?
Even a Clock is right twice a day. :D

Fager Fan
11-21-2016, 10:36 AM
Three more police gunned down by blacks, and some idiots are running around smack talking about a dreamed up problem we're having with white or conservative groups. Let's compare, shall we? Idiots.

PaceAdvantage
11-21-2016, 10:42 AM
I still don't get the anti-Semitic tag on Steve Bannon...maybe someone more intelligent can spell it out for me. I mean, is it what his wife claimed he said in her divorce proceedings? Really? You're going to use that as proof?

When you call Steve Bannon an anti-Semite, everything else you call him should also be called into question, because there really is ZERO hard evidence that he is anti-Semitic:

http://forward.com/news/354384/some-jews-decry-breitbart-editor-as-anti-semite-others-praise-him-as-proud/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/15/pamela-geller-as-a-jew-i-stand-with-steve-bannon/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/14/stephen-k-bannon-friend-jewish-people-defender-israel/

Inner Dirt
11-21-2016, 10:44 AM
We have just survived 8 years of a thoroughly racist administration.
Your point is?

Tom, didn't you get the memo from the liberals that black people can't be racist?

JustRalph
11-21-2016, 10:48 AM
Three more police gunned down by blacks, and some idiots are running around smack talking about a dreamed up problem we're having with white or conservative groups. Let's compare, shall we? Idiots.

4

One killed. 3 serious

reckless
11-21-2016, 11:05 AM
I was speaking of foreign trade.

Trump made his money in NY real estate based on his father's reputation and using other peoples money. He couldn't even make money running a casino. You don't even have to understand foreign trade or tariffs to run a casino.

President Trump and his Trump Organization is a world-wide concern.

He's built golf courses in Ireland, Scotland and Dubai.

He's built, promoted or licensed real estate projects in Israel, Indonesia, Canada, Korea, Panama, Philippines and other countries, large and small.

Trump knows a thing or two about foreign trade, and a lot more than his critics, for sure.

Few people outside Queens, NY, ever heard of Fred Trump, and a casino going bankrupt is becoming quite routine.

Trying to discredit Trump's extraordinary near 50-year career is laughable.

Clocker
11-21-2016, 11:19 AM
What makes you think you understand it better than they do?

Trump's own people have admitted that his trade proposals would be inflationary.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/endorser-agrees-trump-policies-will-benefit-rich-expense-poor-middle-class (https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/endorser-agrees-trump-policies-will-benefit-rich-expense-poor-middle-class)

There is no evidence that they would bring any jobs back to the US.

Oxford Economics found that if fully implemented, Trump's economic, tax and immigration policies would cost 4 million U.S. jobs, weigh down global growth and U.S. consumer spending, and could spark a trade war with other nations.

Many trade experts argue that raising tariffs on China and Mexico would only cause American companies to shift jobs to the next cheapest place, such as Vietnam or Central America.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-plan-1-trillion/

This has been tried before. When the Obama administration imposed higher tariffs on Chinese tires to protect his union pals, imports to the US from South Korea and other Asian countries increased to more than offset the drop in Chinese imports.

(http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-plan-1-trillion/)

Clocker
11-21-2016, 11:38 AM
President Trump and his Trump Organization is a world-wide concern.



That's why his clothing line and other products are manufactured offshore. :p

boxcar
11-21-2016, 12:15 PM
I don't see the flap over Bannon. I guess the endorsement of Nurse Ratchet by the CPUSA (Communist Party for those of you who live in the boonies) wasn't newsworthy enough.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-lord/2016/09/03/communist-party-usa-endorses-hillary-media-yawns

Fager Fan
11-21-2016, 12:34 PM
Trump's own people have admitted that his trade proposals would be inflationary.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/endorser-agrees-trump-policies-will-benefit-rich-expense-poor-middle-class (https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/endorser-agrees-trump-policies-will-benefit-rich-expense-poor-middle-class)

There is no evidence that they would bring any jobs back to the US.



http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-plan-1-trillion/

This has been tried before. When the Obama administration imposed higher tariffs on Chinese tires to protect his union pals, imports to the US from South Korea and other Asian countries increased to more than offset the drop in Chinese imports.

(http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-plan-1-trillion/)

Is it just me, or does that not lead to questioning if tariffs aren't appropriate for Korea and other Asian countries?

Clocker
11-21-2016, 12:46 PM
Is it just me, or does that not lead to questioning if tariffs aren't appropriate for Korea and other Asian countries?

The more tariffs, the greater the impact on consumer prices in this country, with the poor and middle class the hardest hit.

The more tariffs, the more those countries are going to put tariffs on our exports, reducing demand for American products overseas.

classhandicapper
11-21-2016, 01:14 PM
It should be clear by now how Trump operates. He threatens something extreme and then slowly softens to a more moderate position trying to get a net positive move in his direction.

Contrast that to the former republicans.

For them, a compromise has typically been somewhere between current policy and whatever the democrats wanted. So the needle was constantly moving away from what the republicans wanted instead of towards them.

Let's see what he actually does and not worry so much about what he is threatening.

classhandicapper
11-21-2016, 01:26 PM
The more tariffs, the greater the impact on consumer prices in this country, with the poor and middle class the hardest hit.

The more tariffs, the more those countries are going to put tariffs on our exports, reducing demand for American products overseas.

This is true, but so is the fact that the more we trade with some of these countries under current rules the more jobs we lose and the more they accumulate our stocks, bonds, real estate, businesses, etc.. via our trade deficits with them. Then they use those assets to gain political power over the US by saber rattling and being able to sell and disrupt our markets.

The free trade argument goes like this.

"If we don't do exactly what we are doing now it will have negative implications".

But what we are doing right now has totally sucked for decades, will continue to suck, and will eventually lead to a financial or political crisis because we are so dependent on foreigners for capital.

We have to figure out a way to become more competitive so we can balance the trade books. I'm not smart enough to know exactly what has to change, but I'm smart enough to know that what we are doing now has contributed to the gutting of the middle class and put trillions of dollars into the hands of foreigners (some of which are not even friendly).

LottaKash
11-21-2016, 01:47 PM
, I'm not smart enough to know exactly what has to change, but I'm smart enough to know that what we are doing now has contributed to the gutting of the middle class and put trillions of dollars into the hands of foreigners (some of which are not even friendly).

I agree...Something has to change, tho I am not sure exactly what that is... But, if we continue on the current course, I believe that the USA will just wilt further away, and then the sadness of our reality will finally set in...

Clocker
11-21-2016, 02:33 PM
The free trade argument goes like this.

"If we don't do exactly what we are doing now it will have negative implications".



No, the free trade argument is that the market makes better decisions than the government. What is the problem if China or Vietnam can make some stuff a lot cheaper than we can? Consumers can spend less for that stuff and have more money for other things that we do better. And businesses can invest the capital in producing things that they do better, and can sell to the American market and to the world.

Any change is going to have both negative and positive implications, winners and losers. Tariffs protect certain sectors and industries. Does anyone believe that the government knows best about which industries should be protected by tariffs? Most tariffs are just earmarks in disguise.

barahona44
11-21-2016, 03:10 PM
Why does Bannon always looks like he slept in his clothes?
I'd be surprised if he's still on the job a year from now.
Waiting for the ex-wife to go on 60 Minutes with the tearful interview with the domestic violence and threatening her with the loss of their kids if she testified.Strictly a he said/she said with the intimidation accusations but it might be enough to make him need to "spend more time with his family".
We shall see.

NJ Stinks
11-21-2016, 03:18 PM
No, the free trade argument is that the market makes better decisions than the government. What is the problem if China or Vietnam can make some stuff a lot cheaper than we can? Consumers can spend less for that stuff and have more money for other things that we do better. And businesses can invest the capital in producing things that they do better, and can sell to the American market and to the world.

Any change is going to have both negative and positive implications, winners and losers. Tariffs protect certain sectors and industries. Does anyone believe that the government knows best about which industries should be protected by tariffs? Most tariffs are just earmarks in disguise.

Keep shopping at Wal-mart. Where you can buy stuff really cheap! :jump: :jump: (if only you had a job and actually had some cash to spend. :rolleyes: )

fast4522
11-21-2016, 03:30 PM
The more tariffs, the greater the impact on consumer prices in this country, with the poor and middle class the hardest hit.

The more tariffs, the more those countries are going to put tariffs on our exports, reducing demand for American products overseas.

I'd love to see a 35% tax on every BMW, Mercedes Benz, and other high end car and SRV coming into our ports. People are spending more on their cars then kids.

reckless
11-21-2016, 03:39 PM
That's why his clothing line and other products are manufactured offshore. :p

If Trump's only business were ties and other kitschy products I might feel a wee bit differently from your point of view. But he's a major player on the world business stage so I still say his views on foreign trade far exceeds that of most of our's.

And, I'll repeat from my earlier post ... trying to discredit Trump's extraordinary near 50-year business career is laughable.

Fager Fan
11-21-2016, 05:06 PM
The more tariffs, the greater the impact on consumer prices in this country, with the poor and middle class the hardest hit.

The more tariffs, the more those countries are going to put tariffs on our exports, reducing demand for American products overseas.

Yes, and the more tariffs, the closer it brings us to the prices it'd cost us to make here, so we'll make it here and increased jobs will be the result.

And yes, maybe they'll put higher tariffs in return, but what exactly are we exporting to China?

It's a tightrope act, not an either/or as you suggest. We have to weigh jobs versus our consumers getting goods cheaper. We have to weigh what each is importing and exporting to reach a fair equilibrium as well.

AndyC
11-21-2016, 05:38 PM
Yes, and the more tariffs, the closer it brings us to the prices it'd cost us to make here, so we'll make it here and increased jobs will be the result.

And yes, maybe they'll put higher tariffs in return, but what exactly are we exporting to China?

It's a tightrope act, not an either/or as you suggest. We have to weigh jobs versus our consumers getting goods cheaper. We have to weigh what each is importing and exporting to reach a fair equilibrium as well.

It might mean that it will result in decreased jobs here. Paying more for goods means you will necessarily be buying less of them resulting in lower demand. Lower demand means less jobs will be needed to produce less goods.

Clocker
11-21-2016, 06:32 PM
If Trump's only business were ties and other kitschy products I might feel a wee bit differently from your point of view. But he's a major player on the world business stage so I still say his views on foreign trade far exceeds that of most of our's.



You mentioned earlier Trump's international real estate and golf course dealings. The issue here is foreign trade and tariffs. Real estate and golf courses are not foreign trade. You don't import or export golf courses. There are no tariffs on foreign real estate. And I assume that the people running Trump's overseas operations understand the economic environment where they are located.

Trump says that he wants to brand China a currency manipulator, and impose punitive tariffs on their goods that are imported into the US. He says they are depressing the value of the yuan to compete unfairly with US producers.

First, punitive tariffs on imports hurt the exporting country, but they also hurt US consumers. Even Trump's people acknowledge that they would be inflationary, although I have never heard him admit it. Such inflation would hit lower and middle class consumers the hardest. There is no evidence that such tariffs would bring manufacturing jobs back to the US.

Second, Trump is way behind the curve on Chinese currency. China was trying to devalue the yuan for many years. It reversed course on that several years ago, and has been trying to prop up the currency for some time now. The IMF and the US Treasury have both looked into the matter and said that China is not presently manipulating its currency to make its exports more competitive.

newtothegame
11-21-2016, 06:51 PM
You mentioned earlier Trump's international real estate and golf course dealings. The issue here is foreign trade and tariffs. Real estate and golf courses are not foreign trade. You don't import or export golf courses. There are no tariffs on foreign real estate. And I assume that the people running Trump's overseas operations understand the economic environment where they are located.

Trump says that he wants to brand China a currency manipulator, and impose punitive tariffs on their goods that are imported into the US. He says they are depressing the value of the yuan to compete unfairly with US producers.

First, punitive tariffs on imports hurt the exporting country, but they also hurt US consumers. Even Trump's people acknowledge that they would be inflationary, although I have never heard him admit it. Such inflation would hit lower and middle class consumers the hardest. There is no evidence that such tariffs would bring manufacturing jobs back to the US.

Second, Trump is way behind the curve on Chinese currency. China was trying to devalue the yuan for many years. It reversed course on that several years ago, and has been trying to prop up the currency for some time now. The IMF and the US Treasury have both looked into the matter and said that China is not presently manipulating its currency to make its exports more competitive.

Personally, I think Trump is playing a game of chicken with the Chinese to see who blinks first. Its a traditional business strategy that he plays well. So far, there have been many countries come out and say they want to work with him. That's a Huggeeee step from where we have been. He is playing the hand as if he has the NUTZ! I say play it out and make them fold! :lol:

woodtoo
11-21-2016, 07:30 PM
exactly! What have you got to lose.

classhandicapper
11-21-2016, 07:58 PM
No, the free trade argument is that the market makes better decisions than the government. What is the problem if China or Vietnam can make some stuff a lot cheaper than we can? Consumers can spend less for that stuff and have more money for other things that we do better. And businesses can invest the capital in producing things that they do better, and can sell to the American market and to the world.

Any change is going to have both negative and positive implications, winners and losers. Tariffs protect certain sectors and industries. Does anyone believe that the government knows best about which industries should be protected by tariffs? Most tariffs are just earmarks in disguise.

I 100% agree that markets make better decisions that government, but imo the balance of trade does make a difference.

If we buy more electronics, clothes, cars etc.. from some foreign country than it buys from us (a trade deficit like we've had for a very long time), we get depreciating assets and they get cash that they then use to invest in US government bonds, stocks, real estate etc....

The net result is that some consumers in the US make out better because they get some cheaper goods, some workers in the US make out worse because their jobs moved overseas, and the foreign country slowly gets richer at US expense because we will be paying them interest, dividends, rental income on all the assets they are accumulating.

The effect of compound interest on that accumulating pile of assets often becomes a problem for the debtor (the US) as more and more wealth flows overseas. (not to mention their ability to impact our politics)

I'm not sure how to fix it and agree that tariffs is probably not the right answer, but it doesn't work when there are huge differences in standard of living, regulations, taxes, etc... between countries. The idea is to have free and more or less balanced trade.

Tom
11-21-2016, 09:15 PM
Personally, I think Trump is playing a game of chicken with the Chinese to see who blinks first.

Worked for Reagan with the Russians.....

reckless
11-22-2016, 02:43 AM
You mentioned earlier Trump's international real estate and golf course dealings. The issue here is foreign trade and tariffs. Real estate and golf courses are not foreign trade. You don't import or export golf courses. There are no tariffs on foreign real estate. And I assume that the people running Trump's overseas operations understand the economic environment where they are located.

Trump says that he wants to brand China a currency manipulator, and impose punitive tariffs on their goods that are imported into the US. He says they are depressing the value of the yuan to compete unfairly with US producers.

First, punitive tariffs on imports hurt the exporting country, but they also hurt US consumers. Even Trump's people acknowledge that they would be inflationary, although I have never heard him admit it. Such inflation would hit lower and middle class consumers the hardest. There is no evidence that such tariffs would bring manufacturing jobs back to the US.

Second, Trump is way behind the curve on Chinese currency. China was trying to devalue the yuan for many years. It reversed course on that several years ago, and has been trying to prop up the currency for some time now. The IMF and the US Treasury have both looked into the matter and said that China is not presently manipulating its currency to make its exports more competitive.

Yes you make some good points but doing business in dozens of countries world-wide shouldn't be dismissed, as I sense you have been doing all along about Trump.

Don't you find it odd that within days of President Trump's election, Mexico and Canada want a chat about NAFTA? Japan wants to visit, and even the Chinese wants to reach out?

All four of our largest trading partners now want to play nice, within days of Trump's election! Coincidence? What does that tell you? It tells me a lot about Trump and his pre-election promises to change some of these trade deals, deals he claims is unfair and one-sided against the best interests of the USA. It also and most definitely tells me that these trade deals have been in fact totally unfair and one-sided against the USA.

China does manipulate its currency regardless of how people nuance their actions, especially the IMF and US Treasury, both of which have very little credibility of late.

China's economy has been in shambles for years now and their government will not risk alienating the lone country that is most responsible in creating both prosperity and a viable middle-class there. Not to mention the possibility of true civil unrest and rioting in the streets.

Contrary to what the world media says and the weak and stupid US media and political class, it is the United States and NOT China that has the upper hand in all new -- and soon to be renegotiated, old -- trade deals.

Back to consumers... any new trade deals written in the USA's 'favor' will not create inflation. It will create jobs and people working is not inflationary, despite the drivel spewed out from the Keynesian economics know-it-alls at Yale and Harvard.

Inflation occurs only when too much money is chasing too few goods.... a scenario that is unlikely to happen because Trump negotiates better deals for the soon-to-great-again United States.

Yes the price of a Carrier air conditioner will increase in price and the price of underwear and socks at Wal-Mart will go up a bit too. But more people benefit and the overall economy grows when more people are working, plain and simple.

I am sick and tired of elites and wannabes worrying about the price of an I-Phone but not about the employment prospects of their neighbors or even family members.

EasyGoer89
11-22-2016, 02:51 AM
Yes you make some good points but doing business in dozens of countries world-wide shouldn't be dismissed, as I sense you have been doing all along about Trump.

Don't you find it odd that within days of President Trump's election, Mexico and Canada want a chat about NAFTA? Japan wants to visit, and even the Chinese wants to reach out?

All four of our largest trading partners now want to play nice, within days of Trump's election! Coincidence? What does that tell you? It tells me a lot about Trump and his pre-election promises to change some of these trade deals, deals he claims is unfair and one-sided against the best interests of the USA. It also and most definitely tells me that these trade deals have been in fact totally unfair and one-sided against the USA.

China does manipulate its currency regardless of how people nuance their actions, especially the IMF and US Treasury, both of which have very little credibility of late.

China's economy has been in shambles for years now and their government will not risk alienating the lone country that is most responsible in creating both prosperity and a viable middle-class there. Not to mention the possibility of true civil unrest and rioting in the streets.

Contrary to what the world media says and the weak and stupid US media and political class, it is the United States and NOT China that has the upper hand in all new -- and soon to be renegotiated, old -- trade deals.

Back to consumers... any new trade deals written in the USA's 'favor' will not create inflation. It will create jobs and people working is not inflationary, despite the drivel spewed out from the Keynesian economics know-it-alls at Yale and Harvard.

Inflation occurs only when too much money is chasing too few goods.... a scenario that is unlikely to happen because Trump negotiates better deals for the soon-to-great-again United States.

Yes the price of a Carrier air conditioner will increase in price and the price of underwear and socks at Wal-Mart will go up a bit too. But more people benefit and the overall economy grows when more people are working, plain and simple.

I am sick and tired of elites and wannabes worrying about the price of an I-Phone but not about the employment prospects of their neighbors or even family members.

People playing nice just suggests that they know they've been robbing the USA blind, just them talking about it now suggests Trump was totally right about Obama and the leaders of the USA being political hacks negotiating trade deals, even if Trump makes a 'bad deal' and doesn't 'get one over' on these other countries, the deal he gets will be far superior to anything Obama and his cronies did.

Inner Dirt
11-22-2016, 10:27 AM
Yes, and the more tariffs, the closer it brings us to the prices it'd cost us to make here, so we'll make it here and increased jobs will be the result.

And yes, maybe they'll put higher tariffs in return, but what exactly are we exporting to China?

It's a tightrope act, not an either/or as you suggest. We have to weigh jobs versus our consumers getting goods cheaper. We have to weigh what each is importing and exporting to reach a fair equilibrium as well.

If the quality goes up by making it here and the items last longer that would offset the higher cost. Remember when you replaced your windshield wipers every couple of years instead of every 6 months? I am sure all of us are old enough to remember hoards of items that are no longer made here
that were a lot more durable decades ago when USA made.

Tom
11-22-2016, 10:50 AM
I replaced a water heater in September.
When they took it out, the guy told me the template on the side said it was made in 1986, 30 years ago. that was when I bought it.

The new one has a 5 year lifespan.

Products made in America feed Americans, build American roads, pay American teachers.

When we answered the call for WWII, it was NOT because of our social policies, our service industry, it was because we could build stuff. Contrary to what DipStick Obama says, we damn sure as Hell made that!

Had Obama been president in 1941, we would be speaking Japanese today.
And eating a lot more schnitzel.

JustRalph
11-22-2016, 11:06 AM
I replaced a water tank in my rental property last month. It's rated for 8 years. The one they took out only lasted ten. I'm told the government changed Regs on them recently and won't allow anything to be rated above 8 years. Why?

Back in topic,


Why did we never hear these terms "white nationalist, alt right" etc before this election? Inventions of the Dems?

Clocker
11-22-2016, 12:50 PM
Why did we never hear these terms "white nationalist, alt right" etc before this election? Inventions of the Dems?

Alt-right started when people who were politically to the right, but who rejected the GOP establishment as being part of business as usual in Washington, started referring to themselves as the alternative right. On line, conservative sites started using the term alt-right and it stuck.

"White nationalist" is the new politically correct term for what used to be called white supremacists, which is what used to be called the Klan, which was invented by the Democrats.

Tom
11-22-2016, 02:37 PM
Just a cool new name the dimwits on the left can use to sound like they know something.

They don't.
The left has no limit on how totally classless they can be.
Or how totally ignorant.

IT backfires this time - the DNC is no longer a national party thanks to thier alt.left personalities.

The more they attack, the more Real Americans reject them. :lol: :lol: :lol:
No matter how good or bad Trump is, the fact of the matter is, HE BEAT THEM - THE CLOWN BEAT THEM. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Clocker
11-22-2016, 11:33 PM
I'd love to see a 35% tax on every BMW, Mercedes Benz, and other high end car and SRV coming into our ports. People are spending more on their cars then kids.

You know that as a fact?

BTW, BMW's largest plant world-wide is in South Carolina, and Mercedes Benz has a multi-billion dollar plant in Alabama that directly employs 4000 workers.

Clocker
11-22-2016, 11:48 PM
Yes you make some good points but doing business in dozens of countries world-wide shouldn't be dismissed, as I sense you have been doing all along about Trump.

Don't you find it odd that within days of President Trump's election, Mexico and Canada want a chat about NAFTA? Japan wants to visit, and even the Chinese wants to reach out?

Trump doing business in other countries is not relevant, because it is not the kind of business affected by tariffs and trade regulation. That's all political talk, none of which changes the facts. And Trump does not understand, or refuses to admit to, the facts.

The facts are that Trump's people admit that his proposed tariffs would add 10-15% to the basic cost of living for the average worker. That's not smart phones or bling, that's every day necessities. I have heard zero from Trump about this.

The facts are that protective tariffs in the past have failed to "bring back jobs", and Trump has given no argument or evidence to show that his policies are any different.

And Trump's claim that China is devaluing its currency is 100% wrong. China has had economic problems for several years now, and has been working desperately to prop up its currency.

dartman51
11-23-2016, 12:00 AM
Bannon graduated from Virginia Tech, then served as a Naval officer for several years.His daughter, Maureen is a West Point graduate.

He is certainly no dummy.

Stephen Kevin Bannon was born on November 27, 1953, in Norfolk, Virginia, into a working-class, Irish Catholic, pro-Kennedy, pro-union family of Democrats. He graduated from Virginia Tech in 1976 and holds a master's degree in National Security Studies from Georgetown University. In 1983, Bannon received an M.B.A. degree with honors from Harvard Business School.

fast4522
11-23-2016, 06:52 AM
You know that as a fact?

BTW, BMW's largest plant world-wide is in South Carolina, and Mercedes Benz has a multi-billion dollar plant in Alabama that directly employs 4000 workers.

Exactly what I said "high end car and SRV coming into our ports.", anyone who can afford high end that comes into our posts can afford to pay whatever it might end up costing. TFB :lol:

Tom
11-23-2016, 09:41 AM
You know that as a fact?

BTW, BMW's largest plant world-wide is in South Carolina, and Mercedes Benz has a multi-billion dollar plant in Alabama that directly employs 4000 workers.

It's those foreign car makers that need to be dealt with - you know, GM, Ford....

Tom
11-23-2016, 09:45 AM
The CNN panel of putz's is exploding today over this guy!
That makes him A-OK in my book.

We need to come up a whole new awards show - most ridiculous Fake News people awards. :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Trump blah blah blah."
"And the Trump blah blah blah."
"Trump then said blah blah blah."

"In other news, Europe was destroyed by a super volcano last night."

"Trump tweeted blah blah blah......"

Clocker
11-23-2016, 10:56 AM
Exactly what I said "high end car and SRV coming into our ports.", anyone who can afford high end that comes into our posts can afford to pay whatever it might end up costing. TFB :lol:

My point was that you want to hurt companies that have created thousands of good jobs in this country because you think that some people are making bad decisions. How very liberal of you.