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pele polo
09-17-2016, 07:49 PM
The have three big days, this is one of them with eight stakes on the card, highlighted by the Grade 3 CT Oaks.

13 races total, but a lot of short fields. Second race had just three horses compete. In their late pick 4, which includes the Oaks and two 100k stakes, they managed to only get three six horse fields and a five horse field.

Maybe there just aren't enough horses to go around. I know a lot of tracks are following this model by stacking together stakes on one card but I wonder if it's worth it. Not sure if we can fault the racing secretary, he got a few guys to ship in horses who hardly, if ever, run here but looks like they all reached deep down bench in what they sent.

lamboguy
09-17-2016, 08:53 PM
The have three big days, this is one of them with eight stakes on the card, highlighted by the Grade 3 CT Oaks.

13 races total, but a lot of short fields. Second race had just three horses compete. In their late pick 4, which includes the Oaks and two 100k stakes, they managed to only get three six horse fields and a five horse field.

Maybe there just aren't enough horses to go around. I know a lot of tracks are following this model by stacking together stakes on one card but I wonder if it's worth it. Not sure if we can fault the racing secretary, he got a few guys to ship in horses who hardly, if ever, run here but looks like they all reached deep down bench in what they sent.i like it, i am trying to build up a bankroll so i can be ready for the TWIN EXACTA when it gets here.

proximity
09-17-2016, 11:59 PM
the fields were short and the second race was a joke but i thought it was an interesting betting card overall.

i can't be the only one on a pace handicapping site that did real well with unaquoi in the fifth but the rest of the card threw some water on my fire. liked in the fairway over that layoff horse they were betting in the sixth but runco burned me in a couple spots. :bang:

Fan Since The 50's
09-18-2016, 07:32 AM
I attended the CT Oaks card last night. It is remarkable that as many people showed up as did with the usual zero marketing campaign by the Pen @ CT management. I had fun last night. The fields were short, but at least there were genuine thoroughbreds present, vice what usually fills the Pen @ CT cards.

The era of CT racing that I get all misty eyed about basically ended in 1972. The following year brought legal race day medication and started the breakdown era. I have seen so many horses destroyed on track from breakdowns it would blow your mind. One July 4th at CT I saw 3 horses destroyed at CT from one race. Maryland races weren't much better back then either. It got to the point at CT, that I didn't enjoy going to the paddock anymore, wondering which one of these equine athletes would not come back in one piece.

Anyhow, I really feel the National Harbor casino near DC will be the final nail in CT's coffin. What could have been accomplished at this track during CT's long period of Mid Atlantic slots monopoly blows your mind. This could have been a racing palace, if the damn management could see past this months balance sheet.

By the way, I gave up on Laurel and Pimlico a long time too. It depresses me too much being in the presence of a few hundred souls at tracks that routinely drew 15-18 thousand each Saturday.

The Eagles have an album cut song that pretty well sums up how I feel about CT and racing in general in the 21st century. The song is Whatever happened to Saturday Night.

I am nearly 62 years old, but when it comes to horse racing, I indeed feel like a very old man. My best to all of you. I deeply enjoy reading this message board!

lamboguy
09-18-2016, 08:50 AM
I attended the CT Oaks card last night. It is remarkable that as many people showed up as did with the usual zero marketing campaign by the Pen @ CT management. I had fun last night. The fields were short, but at least there were genuine thoroughbreds present, vice what usually fills the Pen @ CT cards.

The era of CT racing that I get all misty eyed about basically ended in 1972. The following year brought legal race day medication and started the breakdown era. I have seen so many horses destroyed on track from breakdowns it would blow your mind. One July 4th at CT I saw 3 horses destroyed at CT from one race. Maryland races weren't much better back then either. It got to the point at CT, that I didn't enjoy going to the paddock anymore, wondering which one of these equine athletes would not come back in one piece.

Anyhow, I really feel the National Harbor casino near DC will be the final nail in CT's coffin. What could have been accomplished at this track during CT's long period of Mid Atlantic slots monopoly blows your mind. This could have been a racing palace, if the damn management could see past this months balance sheet.

By the way, I gave up on Laurel and Pimlico a long time too. It depresses me too much being in the presence of a few hundred souls at tracks that routinely drew 15-18 thousand each Saturday.

The Eagles have an album cut song that pretty well sums up how I feel about CT and racing in general in the 21st century. The song is Whatever happened to Saturday Night.

I am nearly 62 years old, but when it comes to horse racing, I indeed feel like a very old man. My best to all of you. I deeply enjoy reading this message board!its about the same in most places these days. your post did hit the major point in whole deal, the fact that management could care less about horse racing.

someday horseracing will completely close down and restart with more rules and regulations. its tough to impose new rules now because the people with all the horses control the game now and they are doing as well as ever and don't want change.

VeryOldMan
09-18-2016, 05:02 PM
Anyhow, I really feel the National Harbor casino near DC will be the final nail in CT's coffin. What could have been accomplished at this track during CT's long period of Mid Atlantic slots monopoly blows your mind.
Big amen from someone else who lives in the area. The Maryland casinos are crushing CT - and that's without National Harbor yet. Hell, the Laurel owners screwing up by not getting the casino that ended up at Arundel Mills - it was wired to be at Laurel but they missed the "gimme".

WV's breeding stock just isn't good enough to be sustainable without the slots subsidy and the state-bred races. Penn National would shut down CT's racing operation in a second if they could without losing the gaming license.

EMD4ME
09-18-2016, 05:17 PM
I attended the CT Oaks card last night. It is remarkable that as many people showed up as did with the usual zero marketing campaign by the Pen @ CT management. I had fun last night. The fields were short, but at least there were genuine thoroughbreds present, vice what usually fills the Pen @ CT cards.

The era of CT racing that I get all misty eyed about basically ended in 1972. The following year brought legal race day medication and started the breakdown era. I have seen so many horses destroyed on track from breakdowns it would blow your mind. One July 4th at CT I saw 3 horses destroyed at CT from one race. Maryland races weren't much better back then either. It got to the point at CT, that I didn't enjoy going to the paddock anymore, wondering which one of these equine athletes would not come back in one piece.

Anyhow, I really feel the National Harbor casino near DC will be the final nail in CT's coffin. What could have been accomplished at this track during CT's long period of Mid Atlantic slots monopoly blows your mind. This could have been a racing palace, if the damn management could see past this months balance sheet.

By the way, I gave up on Laurel and Pimlico a long time too. It depresses me too much being in the presence of a few hundred souls at tracks that routinely drew 15-18 thousand each Saturday.

The Eagles have an album cut song that pretty well sums up how I feel about CT and racing in general in the 21st century. The song is Whatever happened to Saturday Night.

I am nearly 62 years old, but when it comes to horse racing, I indeed feel like a very old man. My best to all of you. I deeply enjoy reading this message board!


I'm at Belmont today. Counted the people on track, by taking a long 20 minute stroll.

Couldn't be more than 1000. That breaks my heart.

andtheyreoff
09-18-2016, 05:57 PM
I'm at Belmont today. Counted the people on track, by taking a long 20 minute stroll.

Couldn't be more than 1000. That breaks my heart.

In an era where off-track betting has never been more accessible, is this really surprising to anyone?

As far as Fan's point on Laurel and Pimlico, both major Maryland tracks have been experiencing major handle surges over the past year or so. That state is doing very well.

Appy
09-18-2016, 11:33 PM
Today was another example why racing at lrl is a terrific track to play.
Rounded down to full dollar today's winners were: 11, 23, 20, 12, 15, 101, 11, 9, 11, and 9$.
Tough to beat that, look wherever you want.

ronsmac
09-19-2016, 12:23 AM
In an era where off-track betting has never been more accessible, is this really surprising to anyone?

As far as Fan's point on Laurel and Pimlico, both major Maryland tracks have been experiencing major handle surges over the past year or so. That state is doing very well.Just got off the phone with a friend who goes to Pimlico a lot. He's never seen it as bad as it is now. More stoopers and beggars than ever. That's why he's been going to Timonium recently.

EMD4ME
09-19-2016, 12:32 AM
Just got off the phone with a friend who goes to Pimlico a lot. He's never seen it as bad as it is now. More stoopers and beggars than ever. That's why he's been going to Timonium recently.

That's a GOOD thing. That means there's people there betting with tellers and machines (with no account). I miss the resident stoopers at NYRA. They were part of the charm.

I saw my old pal (stooper on Saturday) as I took a walk to the 1st floor. I asked him: Anything?

He said: near nothing :(

pele polo
09-19-2016, 06:55 PM
Today was another example why racing at lrl is a terrific track to play.
Rounded down to full dollar today's winners were: 11, 23, 20, 12, 15, 101, 11, 9, 11, and 9$.
Tough to beat that, look wherever you want.

Laurel does put together a great show and I tried to put some focus on it back in the summer after Pimlico (I enjoy playing PIM). Well, I tried and tried but repeatedly got my ass handed to to me and haven't gone back since they started their new meet.

I also think they'd be better served by not having three pick4s. Take the middle one out, some of those pools have not been that great.