09-01 Positive ROI angles

[deelo]

CT1 #5 Victory's Dreamer - Spr/Rte
R Brown 38% win / 60 sts / $2.68 ROI

CT2 #6 Risk It - Spr/Rte
R Brown 38% win / 60 sts / $2.68 ROI

CT8 #9 Hunt Basket - 1st Lasix
R Brown 60% win / 5 sts / $4.68 ROI

DEL1 #4 Magic Ten - Turf to dirt
K Nations 38% win / 29 sts / $4.97 ROI

DEL8 #5 Bluegrass Beat - 2nd off 45-180 days
J Jones 36% win / 50 sts / $2.17 ROI

DEL 8 #6 Divining Rod - Layoff 180+
A Delacour 28% win / 39 sts / $2.14 ROI

DMR2 #5 Glacken Too - 1st off claim
P Miller 33% win / 83 sts / $2.86 ROI

DMR5 #8 Just A Bit Outside - Spr/Rte
P D'Amato 25% win / 105 sts / $2.13 ROI

DMR8 #4 The All Button - Msw to Mcl
D O'Neill 31% win / 32 sts / $2.09 ROI

ELP3 #9 The New Norm - Rte/Spr
A West 33% win / 18 sts / $2.78 ROI

GG2 #5 Latin's Clock - 1st of claim
J Martin 44% win / 63 sts / $2.69 ROI

GG4 #1 Eagle Screams - Turf to dirt
J Wong 39% win / 23 sts / $2.66 ROI

GG6 #4 Knoll - Turf to dirt
P Oviedo 50% win / 4 sts / $5.50 ROI

GG7 #7 Hansencat - 1st blinkers
W Morey 37% win / 19 sts / $2.86 ROI

GP10 #12 Czarmo - Turf to dirt
B Tessore 32% win / 19 sts / $2.25 ROI

LAD5 #8 Hesaluckycat - Spr/Spr/Rte
K Broberg 41% win / 22 sts / $2.78 ROI

LAD6 #4 More Than Krazy - 1st off claim
K Broberg 35% win / 155 sts / $2.03 ROI

LAD7 #10 Grand Farewell - Rte/Spr
E Ramirez 26% win / 47 sts / $4.60 ROI

LAD7 #11 Safari Calamari - Rte/Spr
R Faucheux 25% win / 36 sts / $2.06 ROI

PEN6 #2 Two Step Temper - Turf to dirt
M Salvaggio 38% win / 21 sts / $3.63 ROI

PEN6 #11 Watchkeeper - 1st blinkers
B Kulp 45% win / 11 sts / $2.44 ROI

PID7 #4 Qualifying - Turf to dirt
L Rice 37% win / 57 sts / $2.80 ROI

SAR2 #1 Sun And Moon - 1st off claim
J Servis 40% win / 45 sts / $2.86 ROI

SAR3 #3 Warranty - Msw to Mcl
C Brown 44% win / 32 sts / $2.77 ROI

SAR4 #3 Butler Field - Turf to dirt
C Brown 36% win / 42 sts / $2.05 ROI

SAR9 #5 Bahama Halo - Spr/Rte
T Pletcher 26% win / 241 sts / $2.15 ROI

[deelo]

These are not bets and haven't been screened, just some entries to take a look at considering the stats

[DeltaLover]

CT1 #5 Victory's Dreamer - Spr/Rte
R Brown 38% win / 60 sts / $2.68 ROI

CT2 #6 Risk It - Spr/Rte
R Brown 38% win / 60 sts / $2.68 ROI

CT8 #9 Hunt Basket - 1st Lasix
R Brown 60% win / 5 sts / $4.68 ROI

DEL1 #4 Magic Ten - Turf to dirt
K Nations 38% win / 29 sts / $4.97 ROI

DEL8 #5 Bluegrass Beat - 2nd off 45-180 days
J Jones 36% win / 50 sts / $2.17 ROI

DEL 8 #6 Divining Rod - Layoff 180+
A Delacour 28% win / 39 sts / $2.14 ROI

DMR2 #5 Glacken Too - 1st off claim
P Miller 33% win / 83 sts / $2.86 ROI

DMR5 #8 Just A Bit Outside - Spr/Rte
P D'Amato 25% win / 105 sts / $2.13 ROI

DMR8 #4 The All Button - Msw to Mcl
D O'Neill 31% win / 32 sts / $2.09 ROI

ELP3 #9 The New Norm - Rte/Spr
A West 33% win / 18 sts / $2.78 ROI

GG2 #5 Latin's Clock - 1st of claim
J Martin 44% win / 63 sts / $2.69 ROI

GG4 #1 Eagle Screams - Turf to dirt
J Wong 39% win / 23 sts / $2.66 ROI

GG6 #4 Knoll - Turf to dirt
P Oviedo 50% win / 4 sts / $5.50 ROI

GG7 #7 Hansencat - 1st blinkers
W Morey 37% win / 19 sts / $2.86 ROI

GP10 #12 Czarmo - Turf to dirt
B Tessore 32% win / 19 sts / $2.25 ROI

LAD5 #8 Hesaluckycat - Spr/Spr/Rte
K Broberg 41% win / 22 sts / $2.78 ROI

LAD6 #4 More Than Krazy - 1st off claim
K Broberg 35% win / 155 sts / $2.03 ROI

LAD7 #10 Grand Farewell - Rte/Spr
E Ramirez 26% win / 47 sts / $4.60 ROI

LAD7 #11 Safari Calamari - Rte/Spr
R Faucheux 25% win / 36 sts / $2.06 ROI

PEN6 #2 Two Step Temper - Turf to dirt
M Salvaggio 38% win / 21 sts / $3.63 ROI

PEN6 #11 Watchkeeper - 1st blinkers
B Kulp 45% win / 11 sts / $2.44 ROI

PID7 #4 Qualifying - Turf to dirt
L Rice 37% win / 57 sts / $2.80 ROI

SAR2 #1 Sun And Moon - 1st off claim
J Servis 40% win / 45 sts / $2.86 ROI

SAR3 #3 Warranty - Msw to Mcl
C Brown 44% win / 32 sts / $2.77 ROI

SAR4 #3 Butler Field - Turf to dirt
C Brown 36% win / 42 sts / $2.05 ROI

SAR9 #5 Bahama Halo - Spr/Rte
T Pletcher 26% win / 241 sts / $2.15 ROI

Wow! What an easy game !!

[teddy]

Cool..you must enjoy tracking this stuff. Is it from drf?

[MONEY]

These are not bets and haven't been screened, just some entries to take a look at considering the stats

Everyone of the above picks + more can be found at,
https://www.usracing.com/past-performances

and of course like you said above, some handicapping is required.

[NorCalGreg]

Everyone of the above picks + more can be found at,
https://www.usracing.com/past-performances

and of course like you said above, some handicapping is required.

I was interested in these and tracked for a while--everything over 40% and $2.50+.

I couldn't understand--at the time--why it wasn't profitable. Not even close....

Finally came to realize this was back-fitting of the highest order...and since it's so commonly available today--overbet to the hilt.--NCG

[deelo]

No i don't track em, I usually just use them as a starting point as some horses to take a look at. I throw out the generic angles such as positive ROIs based on only "Claiming Races" or "Routes" for example and try to check out the more specific ones such as "First off the claim" or "Turf to dirt"

[teddy]

first time turf trainers hit for some big scores.....

[teddy]

[QUOTE=NorCalGreg]I was interested in these and tracked for a while--everything over 40% and $2.50+.

I couldn't understand--at the time--why it wasn't profitable. Not even close....

Finally came to realize this was back-fitting of the highest order...and since it's so commonly available today--overbet to the hilt.--NCG[/QUOte
Maybe you can play against them?

[MONEY]

I was interested in these and tracked for a while--everything over 40% and $2.50+.

I couldn't understand--at the time--why it wasn't profitable. Not even close....

Finally came to realize this was back-fitting of the highest order...and since it's so commonly available today--overbet to the hilt.--NCG
I think that you need to eliminate low odds and multiple angle horses 1st.
Then if you look for the trainer angle with the most races, instead of the highest ROI or winning percentage, you should do better.