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OntheRail
08-03-2016, 01:05 AM
More Pallets of cash to Iran (http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/08/02/report-obama-admin-airlifted-400-million-iran-american-hostages-were-released)
“It is not coincidental that that money was exchanged and that the Iranians, I understand, verified that it had been fully delivered before they let these three people actually leave the country,”
davew
08-03-2016, 02:32 AM
understandably, more have been kidnapped since....
Parkview_Pirate
08-03-2016, 02:53 AM
Are we shocked? The Great Community Organizer, with his awesome Secretaries of State The Evil Hag and The Haircut in Search of a Brain, displays statesmanship as incompetent as any in world history.
The rest of the world laughs at the U.S.
The WSJ indicates $1.7B in cash given to the friendly regime in Iran....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-02/white-house-caught-secretly-airlifting-17-billion-us-taxpayer-cash-tehran-ensure-ira
JustRalph
08-03-2016, 03:13 AM
In total violation of Federal Law
But nobody is around to prosecute
He should be impeached and putin prison.
But no repubs have the balls to stand up to him.
Trump is correct refuse to endorse Eddy Munster and The Geezer. They both are worthless. As is the entire GOP.
davew
08-03-2016, 09:46 AM
He should be impeached and putin prison.
But no repubs have the balls to stand up to him.
Trump is correct refuse to endorse Eddy Munster and The Geezer. They both are worthless. As is the entire GOP.
he is unfit
Saratoga_Mike
08-03-2016, 10:37 AM
In total violation of Federal Law
But nobody is around to prosecute
I'm waiting for the obligatory "well Reagan funded the Contras" comment from Most et al. I believe that did violate the Boran Amendment, but it's false equivalency, imo. It's always interesting to watch the liberals on the board justify Obama's actions by referencing actions of past GOP presidents who they otherwise find contemptible.
When a foreign country is holding our troops prisoner, you do NOT send money.
You send more troops, and tanks, and aircraft carrier, and bombers.......and
you damn well better be fully prepared to use it all if necessary.
This man is a total coward.
AndyC
08-03-2016, 11:44 AM
Surely you must realize that the timing of the payment and the release of the hostages was just one great big coincidence. The deal to release the $1.7 billion dollars had been agreed to and this was just a down payment. Furthermore it is just standard operating procedure to transfer funds via cash in unmarked cargo planes in the dead of night. Who could possibly be skeptical of such a deal?
dartman51
08-03-2016, 12:24 PM
Surely you must realize that the timing of the payment and the release of the hostages was just one great big coincidence. The deal to release the $1.7 billion dollars had been agreed to and this was just a down payment. Furthermore it is just standard operating procedure to transfer funds via cash in unmarked cargo planes in the dead of night. Who could possibly be skeptical of such a deal?
And send it in the form of Euros and Francs, not U.S. dollars. I guess they thought no one would know that it came from the U.S. :rolleyes: Or maybe Iran doesn't trust U.S. dollars. Or, it could be, that paying them in U.S. dollars, would violate sanctions. :eek:
Who could possibly be skeptical of such a deal?
Only racists.
JustRalph
08-03-2016, 12:35 PM
Saddam had 600 million in a semi trailer. I wonder who gave him that?
OntheRail
08-03-2016, 05:39 PM
This is unreal... Obama claims this was just a simple refund ( with interest ) of the Old Shah's arm deal that the Ayatollah Killmany ousted. Should of just told them sorry no refunds on deals... then sent crates of Red Rust. Just claimed the deal did not include indoor storage... so they were left outside in the weather for 37 years.
Instead Obama bypasses Congress to make this Midnight ransom cash lift.. Paying in unmarked... bills... buts it's on the level according to Ol' Josh the wash Ernest. :rolleyes:
We've got some real good negotiators working for the Enemy best interest... I tell you what!
OntheRail
08-03-2016, 05:43 PM
Saddam had 600 million in a semi trailer. I wonder who gave him that?
Well he got in on that lucrative Hillary Clinton Commodity Cattle Futures Deal... how else.
mostpost
08-03-2016, 06:58 PM
I'm waiting for the obligatory "well Reagan funded the Contras" comment from Most et al. I believe that did violate the Boran Amendment, but it's false equivalency, imo. It's always interesting to watch the liberals on the board justify Obama's actions by referencing actions of past GOP presidents who they otherwise find contemptible.
Reagan funded the Contras.
Happy now?
mostpost
08-03-2016, 07:09 PM
This is unreal... Obama claims this was just a simple refund ( with interest ) of the Old Shah's arm deal that the Ayatollah Killmany ousted. Should of just told them sorry no refunds on deals... then sent crates of Red Rust. Just claimed the deal did not include indoor storage... so they were left outside in the weather for 37 years.
Instead Obama bypasses Congress to make this Midnight ransom cash lift.. Paying in unmarked... bills... buts it's on the level according to Ol' Josh the wash Ernest. :rolleyes:
We've got some real good negotiators working for the Enemy best interest... I tell you what!
Iran paid us for arms which we did not deliver. We kept their money for almost forty years before we returned it. It's not a matter of no refunds. The Iranians weren't dissatisfied with the equipment we sent them. We never sent them the equipment. What you are suggesting is the same as if a certain crackpot presidential candidate had contracted to have painting done for a certain price then refused to pay the full price because he thought it was too much. It is immoral, but when it comes to money there is no such thing as morality among conservatives.
No American taxpayers' money was sent to Iran. Their own money was returned to them with the appropriate interest.
Saratoga_Mike
08-03-2016, 07:11 PM
Reagan funded the Contras.
Happy now?
I knew you couldn't resist! In all seriousness, Reagan was far from perfect, but still a great prez, imo. Without comparing O to other presidents, are you comfortable with the 400 mm transfer?
Saratoga_Mike
08-03-2016, 07:13 PM
Most also supports honoring Confederate debts, too, I suppose.
MutuelClerk
08-03-2016, 07:20 PM
Reagan funded the Contras.
Happy now?
It's thinking like this that keeps these two parties in business. Both parties are ruining us. Divide and conquer. Keep defending them. Someday everyone will figure it out. Of course it will be to late by then.
mostpost
08-03-2016, 07:25 PM
I knew you couldn't resist! In all seriousness, Reagan was far from perfect, but still a great prez, imo. Without comparing O to other presidents, are you comfortable with the 400 mm transfer?
Iran paid us for something we did not deliver. They deserved their money back. Any thing else is theft. Of course we should not have delivered the weapons considering the regime change.
Reagan was very far from being a great president imo, and in the opinion of a lot of historians.
Greyfox
08-03-2016, 08:20 PM
Iran paid us for something we did not deliver. They deserved their money back.
When Iran became a strong principal supporter of terror, nothing was owed to them. Not a nickel.
OntheRail
08-03-2016, 08:51 PM
Iran paid us for arms which we did not deliver. We kept their money for almost forty years before we returned it. It's not a matter of no refunds. The Iranians weren't dissatisfied with the equipment we sent them. We never sent them the equipment. What you are suggesting is the same as if a certain crackpot presidential candidate had contracted to have painting done for a certain price then refused to pay the full price because he thought it was too much. It is immoral, but when it comes to money there is no such thing as morality among conservatives.
No American taxpayers' money was sent to Iran. Their own money was returned to them with the appropriate interest..
No Sh*t... we had deal with the Shah not the Ayatollah Killmany head of a Terrorist State. That now views ANY WESTERNS as a High Value Poker Chip... thanks to Obama. What's it up to six now? And if it was not payoff why the black bag job and end run around legal channels? The original 400 million was the Shah's but the interest the other Billion comes from the Treasury... or Us.
Like I said should of shipped crates of rust.
MONEY
08-03-2016, 09:10 PM
Iran paid us for something we did not deliver. They deserved their money back. Any thing else is theft. Of course we should not have delivered the weapons considering the regime change.
Iran is responsible for the deaths of hundreds/thousands of Americans throughout the world.
We don't owe them a dime.
Fager Fan
08-03-2016, 10:08 PM
Obama gets away with everything, including this, including calling the Repub candidate unfit while in a foreign land.
I will SO have a party when this guy leaves the White House. Never seeing or hearing from him again would be too soon.
Clocker
08-03-2016, 10:56 PM
Reagan was very far from being a great president imo, and in the opinion of a lot of historians.
Please do provide us with the names and works of this grand 'lot' of historians.
It is hard to imagine that any reputable historian would attempt to put the Reagan administration into any kind of serious historic perspective so soon after the fact. The impact of major policy changes can take decades to work through a society.
JustRalph
08-03-2016, 11:29 PM
Iran is responsible for the deaths of hundreds/thousands of Americans throughout the world.
We don't owe them a dime.
How Mostie can get past that I don't know? They always find an excuse. Intellectual dishonesty of the highest order
Clocker
08-03-2016, 11:44 PM
How Mostie can get past that I don't know? They always find an excuse. Intellectual dishonesty of the highest order
Iran owes us money for imposing costs on us as the UN police, enforcing sanctions that they constant violate or try to violate. How much money have we spent trying to get them to comply with UN orders or with their own promises?
mostpost
08-04-2016, 12:56 AM
Obama gets away with everything, including this, including calling the Repub candidate unfit while in a foreign land.
He made that comment while in the East Room of the White House; pretty sure that is not a foreign land. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I will SO have a party when this guy leaves the White House. Never seeing or hearing from him again would be too soon.
I would never stop anyone from having a party, but save some money for the party you will need to have in eight years when Hillary leaves the White House.
davew
08-04-2016, 02:32 AM
I would never stop anyone from having a party, but save some money for the party you will need to have in eight years when Hillary leaves the White House.
She won't be alive for 8 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia12gBz8RkY
When Iran became a strong principal supporter of terror, nothing was owed to them. Not a nickel.
They owe US - reparations for the hostage crisis and for every single person killed or injured because of them supplying weapons to terrorist.
Iran is a criminal nation of expendable thugs - we need to start expending then asap - yes hcap, a frigging NUKE. No nation since Germany and Japan has deserved to be eradicated more then Iran. There is nothing good about Iran - nothing.
She won't be alive for 8 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia12gBz8RkY
She looks a tad past her expiration date today!
"Best if used by......June 3, 1996"
Clocker
08-04-2016, 10:05 AM
And send it in the form of Euros and Francs, not U.S. dollars. I guess they thought no one would know that it came from the U.S. :rolleyes: Or maybe Iran doesn't trust U.S. dollars. Or, it could be, that paying them in U.S. dollars, would violate sanctions. :eek:
Bingo! But it still violates the spirit of the law anyway you slice it.
Jay Solomon and Carol Lee reported the transaction in a page-one Wall Street Journal story (http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-1470181874) earlier this week. The Journal’s Devlin Barrett has now followed up with a story on the Department of Justice’s objections (http://www.wsj.com/articles/justice-department-officials-raised-objections-on-u-s-cash-payment-to-iran-1470262789) to the transaction.
Solomon and Lee explain the indirection in the cash payment: “The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law.” This is the kind of workaround that would land lesser mortals in prison.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/obamas-ransom-payment-4.php (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/obamas-ransom-payment-4.php)
Good thing Obama has a strong background and experience id drug dealing - those skills came in handy for this.
Jess Hawsen Arown
08-04-2016, 10:45 AM
Just when you thought Obama could not further endanger the lives of Americans, he ups the ante by paying ransom for the release of Americans from the number one sponsor of terrorism in the world.
Obviously approved by Hillary "Queen of the Damned" Clinton's State Department.
davew
08-04-2016, 10:46 AM
Bingo! But it still violates the spirit of the law anyway you slice it.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/obamas-ransom-payment-4.php (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/obamas-ransom-payment-4.php)
You do not understand the DIMocrats spirit of law and the most transparent administration in HISTORY (since 2008).
B*R*E*A*K*I*N*G N*E*W*S
From CNN, PMSNBC........
"Today, Trump farted...."
delayjf
08-04-2016, 11:16 AM
They owe US - reparations for the hostage crisis and for every single person killed or injured because of them supplying weapons to terrorist.
To include the 8 Marines killed in the aborted rescue attempt in Iran and the 241 Marines killed in the Beirut bombing by a Terrorist group supported by...wait for it....IRAN.
WE OWE THEM NOTHING.
zico20
08-04-2016, 12:47 PM
Reagan funded the Contras.
Happy now?
Reagan was trying to overthrow a hostile, socialist regime, whereas Obama is trying to prop up a terrorist state. No comparison.
Track Collector
08-04-2016, 02:11 PM
understandably, more have been kidnapped since....
The fact that hostages were involved is inconsequential.
Just another "mechanism" to give money to Iran.
The Grand Mufti today whined that money to fund the Zika Virus is about to run out and Congress has gone home.
Gee, Eintstein, how much help do you think $400 Million would have been to fight Zika????
Ass Clown!
zico20
08-04-2016, 07:21 PM
Breaking news!! John Kerry just stated in an interview that a UN resolution strictly prohibits Iran from using the money to fund Hezbollah. Thank God we no longer have to worry about them funding terrorists groups. We can all breath a big sigh of relief. :rolleyes:
Clocker
08-04-2016, 07:27 PM
Breaking news!! John Kerry just stated in an interview that a UN resolution strictly prohibits Iran from using the money to fund Hezbollah. Thank God we no longer have to worry about them funding terrorists groups. We can all breath a big sigh of relief. :rolleyes:
I'm sure Kerry put RFID tags on all those bills so that we can track them.
Trust but verify. :cool:
JustRalph
08-04-2016, 10:06 PM
The fact that hostages were involved is inconsequential.
Just another "mechanism" to give money to Iran.
Exactly right. Just another end run around the law
When questioned about it yesterday, you could hear his voice get highers, his cadence change, going upwards at the end of each sentence. You could detect the street dialect starting to come out...... he had all could do keep his inner-thug restrained..
Clocker
08-05-2016, 08:51 AM
When questioned about it yesterday, you could hear his voice get highers, his cadence change, going upwards at the end of each sentence. You could detect the street dialect starting to come out...... he had all could do keep his inner-thug restrained..
There was no quid pro quo with the money and the prisoners, but one of those released said that they were at the airport ready to go and were held there for hours. Asked why the delay, they were told that they would not be released until some other plane arrived. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.:rolleyes:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/08/04/freed-american-hostage-waited-all-night-at-airport.html (http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/08/04/freed-american-hostage-waited-all-night-at-airport.html)
Saratoga_Mike
08-05-2016, 08:54 AM
To include the 8 Marines killed in the aborted rescue attempt in Iran and the 241 Marines killed in the Beirut bombing by a Terrorist group supported by...wait for it....IRAN.
WE OWE THEM NOTHING.
Well stated.
That said, in today's world, the Saudis are a much bigger threat to the West than Iran, imo. And every president since GHWB has been a major Saudi-sycophant.
delayjf
08-05-2016, 10:28 AM
That said, in today's world, the Saudis are a much bigger threat to the West than Iran, imo.
Curious as to why you feel that way.
Saratoga_Mike
08-05-2016, 01:43 PM
Curious as to why you feel that way.
The majority of Islamic terrorism around the world is perpetrated by Sunni Muslims, most of whom follow/observe Wahhabism (some times referred to as the Salafi movement), arguably the most radical form of Islam. Where does it have its roots? Saudi Arabia. Where is it indoctrinated? Saudi Arabia.
If you take 10 minutes and read the attached article, I think you'll appreciate what I'm saying. The 30-second version: Muslims in Kosovo were moderates. The Saudis (primarily) started to influence the country about 15 years ago. Now, radical Islam is prospering, or at least emerging as a threat, in Kosovo.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/world/europe/how-the-saudis-turned-kosovo-into-fertile-ground-for-isis.html?_r=0
As you probably know, most Iranians follow Shia Islam. Religious clerics in Iran may preach hate toward the West, but I believe its basis is nationalism, not Islam. Again, I'm not arguing any of your prior points about Iran. I just believe the Saudis are a much greater threat to the world.
The Sorries are not our friends and never have been.
I suppose they have bought off our (?) leaders over the years.
WE should just allowed Saddam to keep Kuwait and eventually take over SA.
JustRalph
08-06-2016, 09:49 PM
More criminal activity from Obama
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438744/iran-ransom-payment-president-obama-broke-law-sending-cash-iran
Can we indict the Lame Stream Media and the GOP as unindicted co-conspirators?
JustRalph
08-07-2016, 09:24 AM
Can we indict the Lame Stream Media and the GOP as unindicted co-conspirators?
Felonies all around!!
chadk66
08-07-2016, 10:00 AM
Curious as to why you feel that way.Because they basically control the worlds oil. And we are blinded by their hatred towards us.
PaceAdvantage
08-14-2016, 08:01 PM
Iran paid us for arms which we did not deliver. We kept their money for almost forty years before we returned it. It's not a matter of no refunds. The Iranians weren't dissatisfied with the equipment we sent them. We never sent them the equipment. What you are suggesting is the same as if a certain crackpot presidential candidate had contracted to have painting done for a certain price then refused to pay the full price because he thought it was too much. It is immoral, but when it comes to money there is no such thing as morality among conservatives.
No American taxpayers' money was sent to Iran. Their own money was returned to them with the appropriate interest.And then they go and kill a 17 year old kid for having sex with another male.
I guess you approve this sort of thing. Rewarding a country for stuff like this.
Good to know mostpost. Good to know you're anti-gay rights...just like you claim Republicans are...
There was no reason we had to give them their money back. They owe billions to the relatives killed in terrorist attacks around the world that Iran has backed. UN court (you love the UN, this I know) has ruled on this...look it up.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-appeals-to-uns-top-court-against-us-block-on-frozen-funds/
You're more radicalized than Al claims that we are...
Clocker
08-18-2016, 11:55 PM
The administration recalibrates.
While the $400 million paid to Iran was not ransom, it was "leverage'. :D
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/world/middleeast/iran-us-cash-payment-prisoners.html
OntheRail
08-19-2016, 12:46 AM
This should of been on the table first and foremost... release our people then we'll talk. No not our topnotch negotiators... give, give and give some more.
Let see. It was 400 million in administrative fees for processing passports for release... PPD... Payable Pryor Departure. Yeah that's the ticket.. That's the story. But not a ransom in any way.. :rolleyes:
Clocker
08-19-2016, 01:00 AM
Let see. It was 400 million in administrative fees for processing passports for release... PPD... Payable Pryor Departure. Yeah that's the ticket.. That's the story. But not a ransom in any way.. :rolleyes:
The $400 million was a down payment.
The Obama administration’s $400 million payoff to Iran was followed by a second transfer of $1.3 billion, it was reported Tuesday.
The $400 million was the first installment of a $1.7 billion settlement with Iran to resolve a dispute over a failed arms deal signed before the 1979 fall of the shah.
But there was no word about what happened to the rest of the debt — $1.3 billion.
On Tuesday, The Weekly Standard reported that the second payment was also quietly delivered.
Assistant Secretary of State for Legislative Affairs Julia Frifield sent a letter to Congress on March 17, 2016, stating, “Iran received the balance of $400 million in the Trust Fund as well as roughly $1.3 billion representing a compromise on the interest,” according to the magazine.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/16/us-paid-iran-1-3-billion-in-cash-to-settle-old-dispute/ (http://nypost.com/2016/08/16/us-paid-iran-1-3-billion-in-cash-to-settle-old-dispute/)
JustRalph
08-19-2016, 01:19 AM
Flat out felony
Nothing to see, move along
A mushroom cloud over Iran would be a great postcard.
Captioned "Ayatollah to stop it."
OntheRail
08-19-2016, 12:12 PM
The $400 million was a down payment.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/16/us-paid-iran-1-3-billion-in-cash-to-settle-old-dispute/ (http://nypost.com/2016/08/16/us-paid-iran-1-3-billion-in-cash-to-settle-old-dispute/)
I'm aware of the "Official" story.. It's the strings that are attached that make it sticky for Obama and Company.
Then we have... Iran Still Owes $53 Billion in Unpaid U.S. Court Judgments to American Victims of Iranian backed terror.
So should not that unfrozen money have first been portioned out among the various judgments held by US victims families?
Then I guess a disbursement statement does not satisfy a ransom demand.
OntheRail
08-19-2016, 12:14 PM
A mushroom cloud over Iran would be a great postcard.
Captioned "Ayatollah to stop it."
A Hallmark Moment.... ;)
Clocker
08-19-2016, 12:23 PM
So should not that unfrozen money have first been portioned out among the various judgments held by US victims families?
Then I guess a disbursement statement does not satisfy a ransom demand.
It is a matter of priorities. While running for president in 2008, Obama promised that, unlike Bush and the Neocons, he could negotiate peace any where with any one, specifically including Iran. He is obviously going to any lengths to placate Iran and to preserve that image. (Got to finally feel as if he earned that Peace Prize.) As long as he can leave office with an apparent peace with Iran, he no doubt feels his legacy is secured in the foreign policy area.
What happens after January, 2017, including Iran having nukes, is on the shoulders of the next president.
HalvOnHorseracing
08-19-2016, 01:00 PM
From a diplomatic and negotiating standpoint, the strategy was a good one. We had something Iran wanted - in fact we owed them that money. Iran had something we wanted - hostages. Using the payment as leverage to ensure the hostages release made a lot of sense. It is the way negotiations are supposed to work - win/win.
Did it look like we paid for the hostage release? Perhaps it gave Iran incentive, but it is just as sensible to argue that both sides got to save face. Iran is cast in a positive light for releasing the hostages, the U.S. gets the hostages back and gives Iran money they were owed. Plus, they get to argue it really wasn't a money for hostages deal.
Suppose the U.S. had given the money to those with judgements against Iran. That certainly would have made a lot of Americans happy. But what if it did prevent the release of the hostages? Was it better to pay those judgements or get the hostages back?
You can view the Obama administration as rubes, or having been taken by the slick Iranians. I think there is a reasonable alternative explanation that made families concerned about their loved ones very happy while allowing both countries to save face. Don't kid yourself. The administration not only knows what is what with Iran, but they are appropriately looking to take the long view. Ultimately having Iran transform into a decent world citizen would be the best outcome possible. The U.S. is moving in that direction, slowly, and while hard liners might disagree, the Iran as pariah policy wasn't doing us much good either.
Bob Dylan famously sang, when you ain't got nothin' you got nothin' to lose. The corrollary must be when you got a lot, you got a lot to lose. I've always thought that if you want to get rogue nations over to the good side give their people the chance at economic prosperity that makes them think twice about giving it up.
The great thing about running around saying the sky is falling is that when it doesn't fall everyone is quite happy. Iran isn't going to get nukes, and again there was a diplomatic way to get all sides to win/win and save face.
We're not going to let Iran get nukes - neither is Israel - but if it makes you feel better to say the sky is falling, have at it.
chadk66
08-19-2016, 01:02 PM
we should have never sat down at the table with them over the nuclear deal without their release. Iran wanted these talks and we gave it to them with no strings attached.
Clocker
08-19-2016, 03:58 PM
we should have never sat down at the table with them over the nuclear deal without their release. Iran wanted these talks and we gave it to them with no strings attached.
Yeah, but now Iran is our buddy, right?
Oops. That cynical Krauthammer thinks otherwise.
This week Russian bombers flew out of Iranian air bases to attack rebel positions in Syria. The State Department pretended not to be surprised. It should be. It should be alarmed. Iran's intensely nationalistic revolutionary regime had never permitted foreign forces to operate from its soil. Until now.
The reordering of the Middle East is proceeding apace. Where for 40 years the U.S.-Egypt alliance anchored the region, a Russia-Iran condominium is now dictating events. That's what you get after eight years of U.S. retrenchment and withdrawal. That's what results from the nuclear deal with Iran, the evacuation of Iraq and utter U.S. immobility on Syria.
The nuclear deal was supposed to begin a rapprochement between Washington and Tehran. Instead, it has solidified a strategic-military alliance between Moscow and Tehran. With the lifting of sanctions and the normalizing of Iran's international relations, Russia rushed in with major deals, including the shipment of S-300 ground-to-air missiles. Russian use of Iranian bases now marks a new level of cooperation and joint power projection.
Read more at http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer081916.php3#b9d8DegqjD0dtbxp.99
delayjf
08-19-2016, 05:01 PM
in fact we owed them that money.
Citing only one example of Iran's sponsorship of terrorism- the Marine Beirut Barracks bombing which killed about 241 Marines Sailors and Soldiers and wounded another 75. The attach was conducted by a terrorist organization funded by Iran.
IMO - we don't owe them a thing - the ICJ can stick it. Iran has defied the ICJ, in the past, why shouldn't we.
Iran forfeited their rights to that money long ago.
All we owe Iran is a nuclear winter.
woodtoo
08-25-2016, 10:50 AM
Massive fraud!! To skirt a limit set in 2008 law, the Obama administration
structured the 1.3 billions in wire payments to Iran in 13 transaction of $99,999,999.99 each, two days AFTER sending a pallet of $400 million cash.
Crooked Obama!!!
How crooked is he?
He is so crooked, he can stand behind Hillary and not be seen.
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