View Full Version : Indiana Derby
pele polo
07-16-2016, 01:30 PM
Don't play much Ind but they've got a decent card tonight to go along with Del Mar.
I think Cupid is a forgotten horse, always liked this one and I think he stands head and shoulder above the rest. We'll see how the surface is playing but I like the big field and most likely will key Cupid heavily while getting at least 3-1
the little guy
07-16-2016, 02:01 PM
Cupid can't get out of the gate. That will always compromise his chances.
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 02:34 PM
He also will sometimes want to make an left hand (infield) turn upon entering the stretch.
By far the most talented in the race. He draws wide and he's a wild and crazy guy...
Pele Polo, I do agree with the spirit of your post, other than the "at least 3-1".
I'm guessing somewhere around 9-5 unless the market gets Baffert-crazy and he becomes a big underlay.
The other really interesting thing to me is that :2: Cherry Wine, the familiar name horse, drawn inside, will be a big underlay. This guy's record isn't really much better than the field, if you acknowledge the dream trips.
So :11: Cupid is potentially really strong here. You also have a chance that Cupid fails to overcome his idiosyncrasies and the wide draw, setting up for some bigger prices.
I may want to use Cupid with a few horses like :3: Pilot House (on the come up?) in the 50cent pick 3s.
In the 10c super and 50c Trifectas, I'm thinking about keying Cupid on top, and keying :13: Star Hill 3rd/4th in a double key.
:12: :5: :3: :4:
Fastest horses have good odds - like a buffet tonight.
Odds will determine, but win bets on several will be possible.
letswastemoney
07-16-2016, 04:40 PM
Star Hill comes out of a good race that has produced the Dwyer winner and runner-up, but I'm not 100% sold he can route.
I have no bet...just going to watch.
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 05:03 PM
^^ star hill is 12 not 13
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 08:42 PM
7th Race (Michael G. Schaefer Memorial S.)
:1: General a Rod is the horse to beat. He's solid, but I don't expect brilliance. He should be right there either way. I think he's the most likely winner.
:3: Departing is a little interesting to me. You gotta think Tom Drury has some high hopes of turning this one around.
:5: Rocket time goes on the horizontal tickets, but I'm not so crazy about him. I have him 3rd best, although he opens the favorite. Kind of interesting that Stall trains him and you have the Claiborne/Stall stuff in the background over the 3 Departing...
50c pk3: 1, 3, 5 / 6, 7 / 3, 5, 9, 11, 12
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 09:05 PM
slight Redboard alert ^ i ended up playing an additional 1, 3 / 2 / 3, 5, 9, 11,
Race 8 Indiana Oaks
:7: Family Tree comes in with sharp form
:6: Emmzy - is interesting to me. Baffert always deserves respect. This one had some good and bad on video. The bad= Just didn't look really strong in the stretch to me in terms of 'look'. The good= knows how to relax throughout the race.
:2: Dothraki Queen - fits here based on her class.
$2 DD 6 / 3
:1: Dream Dance & :3: Mines and Magic
Sit in behind the early pace & pounce late.
7/1 on :12: Star Hill might be worth a look.
Like to see how many :7: Seeking Blame picks off late @ 24/1.
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 09:46 PM
Race 9 Indiana Derby
the public has indeed gone Baffert-crazy... 7/5 is a tough price for those who thought they had a bargain. Cherry wine looks like a huge underlay at 2-1
:11: Cupid's race to lose. He does have a tough draw and has the gate problems, and has been a bad boy in general. He could win by 10 or fail to finish the race.
:7: Seeking Blame is outclassed here but he's a big nice horse and is a decent closer. There is some cheap speed and some powerhouse speed to run down today.
:9: Torrontes is a great price. He's another big beast. His form is unlucky enough to obscure the fact that he belongs with these.
:12: Star Hill is a solid contender.
50c tri 11 / 3, 5, 7, 9 / 12
10c super 11 / 2, 3, 5, 7, 9 / 2, 3, 5, 7, 9 / 12
no breathalyzer
07-16-2016, 09:57 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i keyed the :5: and chucked out bob and ate shit
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 10:02 PM
7th Race (Michael G. Schaefer Memorial S.)
50c pk3: 1, 3, 5 / 6, 7 / 3, 5, 9, 11, 12 AND 1, 3 / 2 / 3, 5, 9, 11 Bet $20 , Ret 19.25 :blush: Oh well - the point with this bet was spreading in the ID because Cupid may not have overcome his draw or problems, and Cupid won ... basically got my money back
Race 9 Indiana Derby
50c tri 11 / 3, 5, 7, 9 / 12
10c super 11 / 2, 3, 5, 7, 9 / 2, 3, 5, 7, 9 / 12
Earlier double -$2
50c tri pays $49 :cool: Nice - The public bet Cherry Wine into a crazy underlay, so these obvious horses paid decently.
overall bet $26 returned $68.25
these days i'm happy if I break even
Robert Fischer
07-16-2016, 10:04 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i keyed the :5: and chucked out bob and ate shit
Looked like your 5 was going to run down the winner for a moment
thespaah
07-17-2016, 12:47 AM
They were walking in the stretch. The track surface looked deep and tiring.
Once the Cupid made the lead, no other horse was going to catch him.
The winners last 1/ 16th mile was Trakus timed in 6.75 which averages out to a 27 second final quarter mile.
I have Star Hill in my equibase virtual stable.
It was my intention to place a wager( win) today with the condition of getting value. I made the wager with about 7 mins to post. At that time the odds were 7 or 8-1. I saw in the chart the horse was bet down to 4-1.....
I think Star Hill looked like he might be better at a mile.
The horse was urged and made a nice move from 3/8ths out. But seemed to flatten in the drive. I think it was a combination of the distance and the tiring track.
It's ok though. I did not make a sizable wager and will continue to follow the horse.
vBulletin® v3.8.9, Copyright ©2000-2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.