Kerry Is Finished! Enron and the Kerry's

[JustRalph]

Kerry gets a negative bounce from Edwards and now this! I bet you don't see this on Dan Rather's show tonight..........

http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=34958

Ken sure got around! CEO tied to Kerrys, too
By David R. Guarino
Read Guarino's Road to Boston Blog
Friday, July 9, 2004

President Bush may know indicted ex-Enron boss Ken Lay as ``Kenny Boy,'' but Sen. John F. Kerry [related, bio] and his millionaire wife also have past financial and personal ties to Lay's shamed energy firm, documents show.

Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry reported more than $250,000 in Enron stock ownership before the firm's 2003 collapse. Kerry also was forced to return a campaign contribution from an implicated Enron executive.

And Heinz Kerry served on a charity board with Lay, even after he was implicated in the alleged fraud, records show.

Kerry has railed against the Bush administration's handling of the Enron scandal on the campaign trail.

The Kerry campaign said the senator's meager ties pale in comparison to Bush's longtime friendship with and financial backing from Lay.

``George Bush and Ken Lay worked together for years, Ken Lay defrauded consumers and collected profits from it and George Bush collected a half-million dollars from Enron,'' Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said. ``We received one check from an employee that was accused of wrongdoing and we returned the check. That speaks volumes.''

Kerry's campaign took $1,000 from an executive of Enron Wind in November 2001, a check he returned a few months later. He also took $250 from an Enron accountant in May - a check he won't return, Meehan said, because that donor hasn't been implicated in the alleged fraud.

A Heinz family trust bought between $250,000 and $500,000 of stock in December 1995, just days before Heinz Kerry announced Lay would serve as a member of the Heinz Center philanthropy, Kerry's Senate financial disclosure documents show.

The stock brought between $5,000 and $15,000 in dividends in 1996 before it was sold in 1997, the disclosure forms show.

Lay stayed on the board after Enron's collapse and a Heinz Foundation spokeswoman defended Lay in news reports amid the fraud accusations as having ``a good reputation in the environmental community.''

[cj]

This is too good to drift down the board...

BUMP

[chickenhead]

both parties are full of corporate whores...what a revelation!

[cj]

Funny none of the libs were able to dig this up. Reaction from the libs...

http://www.pacefigures.com/images/libs.gif

[Tom]

Sec: "Oh,oh, boys. The jig is up. Spread out!" *boink*
Ljb" "Coitenly! Woowoowoowoo!"
Hcap" knuck knuck kncuc."

[ljb]

It has become obvious the rightys have lost both their will and their ability to debate the issues. They again resort to name calling and jokes. Must be getting stung by the truth again. Ouch fellows I feel you pain!:D :D :D
On a more serious note, I am sorry to hear that Kerry is one of the millions of investors that got screwed by "Kenny Boy".

[chickenhead]

I'd have to look up the historical quotes, but if Heinz bought in 95 and sold in 97, they made a bundle of old Kenny Boy.

[Big Bill]

ljb says, "It has become obvious the rightys have lost both their will and their ability to debate the issues. They again resort to name calling and jokes".

How about resorting to actual quotes?:

Here's Where Bush Got His Marching Orders....

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry ( D - MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building! weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 1! 9, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President! of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ...... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and an! y nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapon stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec.! 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THESE SAME DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND THAT HE TOOK US TO WAR UNECESSARILY !

Big Bill

[PaceAdvantage]

This is why I pray most Americans have retained their common sense.

[ljb]

Big Bill,
First you jumped topic here. Secondly, I usually don't read long rambling notes. But just to give a general reply to all your "quotes".
I don't believe anyone said we should not control Saddam/ Iraq. The problem is the unilateral invasion of Iraq. After the fact, it is obvious Saddam was not a threat to us and investigations show he had little or no ties to AlQueda. All the untruths told to the American people in an attempt to get them fired up for war should be criminal offenses and the perpetrators should go to jail.
None of the Democrats you quote said we should unilaterally invade Iraq.
One other thing, why no Republican quotes?

[cj]

Originally posted by ljb
Big Bill,
First you jumped topic here. Secondly, I usually don't read long rambling notes...

That's the best joke you've told since you've been here at PA! I know you read sec and hcap, your fellow stooges.

[Tom]

Hey, Ljb(astard)...check out the dates on some of those quotes by YOUR people...long BEFORE Bush was in the WH. So, who lied to THEM....obviously, it was NOT Bush.
OR, maybe it wasn't a lie after all, maybe WMD DID exist and were moved/hidden?
Whichever, it was obviously no Bush who started this idea.

[Secretariat]

Some guys up above wanted me to respond to this.

Well, here ya go:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200407120007


Another example of gross Republican distortion to cover the HUGE connections of Bush to Lay. I guess I can't blame them, I'd run from that Lay connection as well.

[Mike at A+]

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