Stradivari

[PowerUpPaynter]

Anyone know anything about this horse? Saw some early odds having him as the 3rd choice.

Nyquist 5/7

Exaggerator 9/2

Stradivari 12/1

Gun Runner 14/1

Suddenbreakingnews 14/1

Creator 16/1

Destin 16/1

Mor Spirit 16/1

Dazzling Gem 20/1

Outwork 20/1

Cherry Wine 25/1

Collected 25/1

Swipe 25/1

Awesome Speed 33/1

Fellowship 33/1

Lani 33/1

Uncle Lino 33/1

Laoban 40/1

[SecretAgentMan]

What the heck is 5/7?

[rgustafson]

Anyone know anything about this horse? Saw some early odds having him as the 3rd choice.

Nyquist 5/7

Exaggerator 9/2

Stradivari 12/1

Gun Runner 14/1

Suddenbreakingnews 14/1

Creator 16/1

Destin 16/1

Mor Spirit 16/1

Dazzling Gem 20/1

Outwork 20/1

Cherry Wine 25/1

Collected 25/1

Swipe 25/1

Awesome Speed 33/1

Fellowship 33/1

Lani 33/1

Uncle Lino 33/1

Laoban 40/1



Ever heard of equibase? You have all sorts of posts and you ask a question like this? Type in the name of the horse, not too hard and it's free. :)

[dballard125]

Money on Fellowship to show at 33-1 sounds tasty.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Money on Fellowship to show at 33-1 sounds tasty.


yeah man sure does

[tucker6]

why the 4 month layoff for Stradivari?

[rgustafson]

why the 4 month layoff for Stradivari?

Not sure, but he did begin working out regularly on Feb. 28th prior to that last race and recently had two workouts at Churchill, the last at 6 furlongs on Derby day.

[tucker6]

Not sure, but he did begin working out regularly on Feb. 28th prior to that last race and recently had two workouts at Churchill, the last at 6 furlongs on Derby day.
He's a late foal too.

[AirNate012]

Did anyone catch Stradivari's last out at Keeneland? 9 furlongs in 1:48....If he runs back to that form, he's going to be tough.

[SecretAgentMan]

He just won an allowance race & you guys think he can beat a horse that's won 5 G1 races & 2 G2? Lol, he may be a distant 2nd, but that's all he will be.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Did anyone catch Stradivari's last out at Keeneland? 9 furlongs in 1:48....If he runs back to that form, he's going to be tough.


its a little different when you play with the big boys

[cj]

What the heck is 5/7?

Pretty simple, bet 7 to win 5, no different than any other odds.

[Tall One]

He just won an allowance race & you guys think he can beat a horse that's won 5 G1 races & 2 G2? Lol, he may be a distant 2nd, but that's all he will be.


Agreed. Horse needs one or two before stepping into this conversation. I think he's also entered in the Peter Pan, which could give Pletcher a better idea on where he stands right now.

[AirNate012]

Watch the race and see for yourself. He was under a hand ride, looked very strong. I'd personally like to see Pletcher take the Belmont route with him and shoot for the Peter Pan next though.

[AirNate012]

He just won an allowance race & you guys think he can beat a horse that's won 5 G1 races & 2 G2? Lol, he may be a distant 2nd, but that's all he will be.

I never said he could beat Nyquist, but you can't deny how the horse looked running a 1:48 under a hand ride, while older stakes horses were running the same times that same day. He would be tough if he ran back to that same form is all I was saying.

[Bullet Plane]

Sarava stepped up and won the Belmont off an allowance race.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Freaky stuff happens at Belmont. The Preakness seems to be more formful. 72 favorite in 140 Preakness' - which really is crazy if you think about it

[depalma113]

Sarava stepped up and won the Belmont off an allowance race.

Sarava won the Belmont after winning the Sir Barton (now Barbaro) Stakes on the Preakness undercard

[Bullet Plane]

Sarava won the Belmont after winning the Sir Barton (now Barbaro) Stakes on the Preakness undercard


That's right!

Sorry about that.

[overthehill]

it seems to me that a lot of the big upsets at the belmont occur on off tracks.

[minethatbird08]

Pretty sure he was Destin's work out partner during Derby week.

[tucker6]

it seems to me that a lot of the big upsets at the belmont occur on off tracks.
Can you tell us why you feel that way? I checked, and since 2000, there have only been two Belmonts that were on off tracks. The 2003 race won by Empire Maker over Funny Cide, and the 2011 race won by Ruler On Ice. Every other race was on a fast track. Even the biggest upset I've ever seen at Belmont, the Bid loss, was on a fast track.

http://www.belmontstakes.com/racing/belmontstakes.aspx

[SecretAgentMan]

Can you tell us why you feel that way? I checked, and since 2000, there have only been two Belmonts that were on off tracks. The 2003 race won by Empire Maker over Funny Cide, and the 2011 race won by Ruler On Ice. Every other race was on a fast track. Even the biggest upset I've ever seen at Belmont, the Bid loss, was on a fast track.

http://www.belmontstakes.com/racing/belmontstakes.aspx


I thought it was sloppy in 2004 also when Birdstone beat Smarty Jones.

[tucker6]

I thought it was sloppy in 2004 also when Birdstone beat Smarty Jones.
nope. Fast track with a winning time of 2:27.50. The 10F split was 2:00.52.

[SecretAgentMan]

nope. Fast track with a winning time of 2:27.50. The 10F split was 2:00.52.



I could have sworn there was 2 inches of water on that track & Birdstone loves the slop.

[tucker6]

I could have sworn there was 2 inches of water on that track & Birdstone loves the slop.
I just watched the race to make sure the chart was accurate. The track wasn't dusty dry, but it certainly was fast, and I assure you it wasn't watery. I think you're remembering Funny Cide in 2003. That was a water park slide that day.

[SecretAgentMan]

I just watched the race to make sure the chart was accurate. The track wasn't dusty dry, but it certainly was fast, and I assure you it wasn't watery. I think you're remembering Funny Cide in 2003. That was a water park slide that day.



Haha, you're probably right!

[nijinski]

Always tough when they lack the seasoning but show a lot of talent .
Check him out in the paddock and warm ups .
Collected is one I'm looking at too. .
No way you can't take a second look at a Baffert.runner in the Preakness . .

[outofthebox]

We have an un raced Bernardini mare 1/2 sister to Stradivari. So you know who i'm rooting for. Big step up in class for sure. That allowance race he won at Keeneland was pretty weak competition wise. Just hoping for gr.1 placing...

[RXB]

We have an un raced Bernardini mare 1/2 sister to Stradivari. So you know who i'm rooting for. Big step up in class for sure. That allowance race he won at Keeneland was pretty weak competition wise. Just hoping for gr.1 placing...

Only about a length away from getting that placing. He ran quite well, better than I would've expected given the trip. Was rated away from the hot pace which was a good thing to do, but he didn't corner all that well and lost quite a bit of ground while the winner saved all the ground. Considering it was a big class jump plus he'd never been that far off of the pace before, as well as the ground loss it was a solid effort. Inexperience probably beat him more than any lack of inherent talent.

[tucker6]

Only about a length away from getting that placing. He ran quite well, better than I would've expected given the trip. Was rated away from the hot pace which was a good thing to do, but he didn't corner all that well and lost quite a bit of ground while the winner saved all the ground. Considering it was a big class jump plus he'd never been that far off of the pace before, as well as the ground loss it was a solid effort. Inexperience probably beat him more than any lack of inherent talent.
I couldn't have written my thoughts out any better. :ThmbUp:

Will be interested to see how he progresses this summer. May make some noise.

[Racey]

Toa fast pace in the Preakness......should take another step forward

[PaceAdvantage]

I don't like this horse at all, and can't understand his level of support.

With that said, I'm sure he'll win by 5. :bang:

[boys at tosconova]

9-1 is a healthy win price.

at least he'll be in the race. i wish i could say this about about the closers

[Cratos]

With the Belmont Stakes being “Closer Bias” and this being my second wager of the year (Ky Derby was the first) I am going with Stradivari and see if he can hold off Exaggerator who probably will be the prohibitive favorite.

[Psychotic Parakeet]

Unfortunately, he did not make it. Death report on-file with the Jockey Club.

[cj]

Unfortunately, he did not make it. Death report on-file with the Jockey Club.

Sad...you have a link?

[bobphilo]

Unfortunately, he did not make it. Death report on-file with the Jockey Club.

This is sad news. Didn't even know he was injured. Any details?

[cj]

This is sad news. Didn't even know he was injured. Any details?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/213519/stradivari-sustains-career-ending-injury

[classhandicapper]

bummer

[Psychotic Parakeet]

This is sad news. Didn't even know he was injured. Any details?

https://twitter.com/jordan_sigmon_/status/806586539128082433

[picojim]

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloodstock/stradivari-suffering-complications-recovering-surgery-euthanized/