Pen and Paper Handicappers

[River11]

What pen and color of ink do you use to mark up your pp's?
I have used Parker pens since the 70's, but am not happy with their performance lately (skipping and bleeding).

I know, the last 3 words sounds like the horses I bet

I have changed to Uni-Ball Jetstream and replace the fine point with bold point blue ink refills.

Just curious, maybe someone has a better choice.
Mike

http://www.amazon.com/uni-ball-Jetstream-Blue-Fine-Point/dp/B001FNBHJE/ref=pd_sim_229_23?ie=UTF8&dpID=41PuZX2A1xL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1K26NW7AQ48DKCV87RGB

http://www.amazon.com/uni-ball-Jetstream-Retractable-Sport-Refills/dp/B000VXEWNW/ref=pd_sim_229_12?ie=UTF8&dpID=41qhzuyuPjL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0BMCE34BG3PMWPEAKDN4

[Tom]

Don't leave home without it.

[BELMONT 6-6-09]

Bic Velocity Jel Green for positive, red for negative and black for other

[VigorsTheGrey]

I've been using a highlighter lately....I start at the beginning of the form and quickly look at 2 columns of each horse.....what I highlight are 2 vertical columns...the Beyer column and the finish position column.... If the horse shows four or more strong Beyers in a row.....If a horse show nothing but 1sts, 2nds, and 3rds up and down that's what I look for first...then I go back thru and look for 12 second works recent... and then 3rd start off layoffs, then last out winners and last out highest beyer....Then Javier, Jose, Irad, Jaramillo, and other jocks I like with decent odds, then top trainers with decent odds, etc. Then improving Beyers, and Keenland sale horses, and horses they paid big bucks for, etc

[River11]

I've been using a highlighter lately....I start at the beginning of the form and quickly look at 2 columns of each horse.....what I highlight are 2 vertical columns...the Beyer column and the finish position column.... If the horse shows four or more strong Beyers in a row.....If a horse show nothing but 1sts, 2nds, and 3rds up and down that's what I look for first...then I go back thru and look for 12 second works recent... and then 3rd start off layoffs, then last out winners and last out highest beyer....Then Javier, Jose, Irad, Jaramillo, and other jocks I like with decent odds, then top trainers with decent odds, etc. Then improving Beyers, and Keenland sale horses, and horses they paid big bucks for, etc

No handicapping lessons please, just good ink.
Don't like highlighters.

[MonmouthParkJoe]

Plain and simple

[Tom]

Plain and simple

I kept losing the caps. :blush:

[Rollingpk3]

love these. unique colors to mix it up and cheap. a few colors i dont use like black will bleed but the off colors seem to hold up well

http://www.unitednow.com/product/20655/bic-cristal-xtra-bold-pens.aspx?gclid=CLqOpNSbsMwCFQcfhgod0MsK1Q

[proximity]

in my prime i preferred a green or blue paper mate flair.

[Dahoss2002]

I use pens I steal from the bank

[five-eighths]

I thought I was the only one picky about pens :D

Currently use Pilot Acroball Retractable Hybrid Gel Red Pen with a Medium Point.

Only problem is I've chewed up the caps making it harder to retract and haven't been able to find them in the store last couple times I've checked :mad:

[burnsy]

Not picky at all......I'll use anything. When I go to the track I will sometimes buy a "lucky pencil" from the girl selling PP's. But if I have a pen in my pocket that's the ticket. Hell, last week I was at Turning Stone and I used the wax crayon they give you for Keno. Not picky at all, plus I colored the kids menu at Emeralds........

[Spiderman]

Pilot G-2 blue fine .07.

Instead of multi-colors, I designate good with circle; bad with x; diagonal forward slash for toss out; underline for point to consider; vertical line to show surface run is different than current race condition; left parenthesis to highlight significant key race.

[jahura2]

What pen and color of ink do you use to mark up your pp's?
I have used Parker pens since the 70's, but am not happy with their performance lately (skipping and bleeding).

I know, the last 3 words sounds like the horses I bet

I have changed to Uni-Ball Jetstream and replace the fine point with bold point blue ink refills.

Just curious, maybe someone has a better choice.
Mike

http://www.amazon.com/uni-ball-Jetstream-Blue-Fine-Point/dp/B001FNBHJE/ref=pd_sim_229_23?ie=UTF8&dpID=41PuZX2A1xL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1K26NW7AQ48DKCV87RGB

http://www.amazon.com/uni-ball-Jetstream-Retractable-Sport-Refills/dp/B000VXEWNW/ref=pd_sim_229_12?ie=UTF8&dpID=41qhzuyuPjL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0BMCE34BG3PMWPEAKDN4

HIghlighters and red ink. I dont see so well.

[Ocala Mike]

Black Sharpie Fine Point.

[FrankieFigs]

Pilot G-2 blue fine .07.

I use the extra fine .05. They are great.

[green80]

If my horses aren't winning I change pens.

[FrankieFigs]

If my horses aren't winning I change pens.

If I did that I would spend more money on pens than wagers....

[Johnny V]

Bic blue and red medium point.

[Dave Schwartz]

in my prime i preferred a green or blue paper mate flair.

Some of my happiest recollections of racing are from back in the day when I did lots of work with a red Flair pen and a calculator.

[the little guy]

I use different colors for different things....dark blue for preliminary, green for information from Formulator, light blue for pedigree info, red for replay work, and purple for final thoughts. I also use some of those colors for Timeform info.

It makes the information easier to identify, especially on air.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Plain and simple

I use the Bic blue and reds for running lines but the best pen in general IMO without being streaky is the Pilot V5 extra fine in blue, green, and red.

http://www.theofficedealer.com/mm5/graphics/product_images/650/seo/1396506483/Pilot-35457-Precise-V5-RT-Rollerball-Pen.jpg

Or these for writing more than just a few notes.

http://inspirationfeeed.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/http-www-amazon-compilot-precise-stick-rolling-extradpb00006iebi.jpg

[Tall One]

Some of my happiest recollections of racing are from back in the day when I did lots of work with a red Flair pen and a calculator.


:ThmbUp:

[CincyHorseplayer]

I use the extra fine .05. They are great.

Frankie when we first met we shared a laugh because we both had nearly the same arsenal of pens! LOL! Now 5 years later we have not just similar but exact :D

[NJ Stinks]

Pilot G-2 blue fine .07.



Use those and also have the Pilot G-2 extra fine 05's in assorted colors.

And like Green 80, I rotate colors only when I'm looking for a change in luck.

[ldiatone]

i use the sharpie "ultra fine point" red-green-blue-black

[Longshot6977]

What...no one uses these?

[FrankieFigs]

Frankie when we first met we shared a laugh because we both had nearly the same arsenal of pens! LOL! Now 5 years later we have not just similar but exact :D

Man, that was a fun day. We talked about pens and pedigrees all day... :)

I'm still pissed that we didn't play an exacta with our 2 longshots in the Manhattan... :bang:

[CincyHorseplayer]

Man, that was a fun day. We talked about pens and pedigrees all day... :)

I'm still pissed that we didn't play an exacta with our 2 longshots in the Manhattan... :bang:

I hit the one turf race big then got on cruise control and went into social mode. Looking back I missed 3 big odds that day including the winner and exacta on the Manhattan! Arrggghhh!

[River11]

Thanks everybody, going to try some of your choices.

BTW here's a choice for the last day of the meet, last race (10th) at Keeneland.
:6: C J's Lilly FTS, rider change to Osorio, 8-1 ML

[thespaah]

Plain and simple
With clipboard, yes?
I'd be fearful of the pen going through the paper.

[Tom]

Don't leave home without it.

Since I posted this Bic 4-color pen, it shows up in ads on almost every site I go to! Kind of scary. :eek:

[barahona44]

Since I posted this Bic 4-color pen, it shows up in ads on almost every site I go to! Kind of scary. :eek:
Face it, Tom, you're a trend setter.

[castaway01]

Since I posted this Bic 4-color pen, it shows up in ads on almost every site I go to! Kind of scary. :eek:

Big Brother is always watching you Tom...

[CincyHorseplayer]

Since I posted this Bic 4-color pen, it shows up in ads on almost every site I go to! Kind of scary. :eek:

Look at girls with bubble butts. You won't mind that popping up repeatedly!

[reckless]

Since I posted this Bic 4-color pen, it shows up in ads on almost every site I go to! Kind of scary. :eek:

All I did Tom was read your post about the Bic 4 and those ads show up on every site I go on.