Pace Setters, Stalkers, Mid Pack, & Closers

[PowerUpPaynter]

Anyone want to try to take a stab at categorizing the top 20 into each of the four groups?

Pace Setters:
Danzig Candy
Outwork

Stalkers:
Nyquist
Mohaymen
Gun Runner
Mor Spirit
Destin


Mid Pack:
Whitmore
Brody's Cause
Exaggerator
Lani
Oscar Nominated
Shagaf
Tom's Ready
My Man Sam
Majesto
Trojan Nation

Closers:
Creator
Mo Tom
Suddenbreakingnews

[boys at tosconova]

there is quite the grey area between midpack and closer. obv some horses will be mid pack, but i can't help to think most like to be near the rear, rather then closer up.

[cj]

This is how we have them classified at TimeformUS

Leader

Outwork
Danzing Candy

Speed

Nyquist

Tracker

Gun Runner
Mohaymen
Destin
Majesto

Midpack

Exaggerator
Mor Spirited
Oscar Nominated
Shagaf
Whitmore
Tom's Ready
Fellowship (AE)
Adventist (AE)

Closer

Creator
Suddenbreakingnews
My Man Sam
Trojan Nation

Plodder

Brody's Cause
Mo Tom

NA

Lani (I'd say Midpack or Closer)

[boys at tosconova]

brody is no plodder. that was a very fast extended middle move that he made in the BG. this is a pretty classy horse

[Grits]

brody is no plodder. that was a very fast extended middle move that he made in the BG. this is a pretty classy horse

Do you subscribe to TFUS? If not, understand that Cj has, for many years, had a definition for each of these running styles listed. Plodder is in no way a derogatory term. It has nothing to do with the horse's class. ;)

You guys are lucky, he's good to you.

I would've never told this, I would've made you buy it!

Cha ching, cha ching. :lol:

[SecretAgentMan]

The derby winner will come from Cj's tracker group IMO.

[Redboard]

Anyone want to try to take a stab at categorizing the top 20 into each of the four groups?

Pace Setters:
Danzig Candy
Outwork

Stalkers:
Nyquist
Mohaymen
Gun Runner
Mor Spirit
Destin


Mid Pack:
Whitmore
Brody's Cause
Exaggerator
Lani
Oscar Nominated
Shagaf
Tom's Ready
My Man Sam
Majesto
Trojan Nation

Closers:
Creator
Mo Tom
Suddenbreakingnews

With only two pacesetters, this is not a recipe for a pace meltdown, according to handicapping 101.

With the huge field, more jocks will try to start quicker, to avoid being 15 wide on the first turn, which always makes the pace faster.

15 trainers will tell their jocks to "sit just off the pace." Easier said than done.

[boys at tosconova]

With only two pacesetters, this is not a recipe for a pace meltdown, according to handicapping 101.

With the huge field, more jocks will try to start quicker, to avoid being 15 wide on the first turn, which always makes the pace faster.

15 trainers will tell their jocks to "sit just off the pace." Easier said than done.

this is true.

shagaf and exaggerator should be up closer...not to mention somebody else trying something different. at least early on, if they're in the slightest bit capable

[Bennie]

With about 10 midpack/trackers I would look to the best 3 or 4 late pace among these and when post positions are drawn, rearrange them accordingly.

[098poi]

This is how we have them classified at TimeformUS

Leader

Outwork
Danzing Candy

Speed

Nyquist

Tracker

Gun Runner
Mohaymen
Destin
Majesto

Midpack

Exaggerator
Mor Spirited
Oscar Nominated
Shagaf
Whitmore
Tom's Ready
Fellowship (AE)
Adventist (AE)

Closer

Creator
Suddenbreakingnews
My Man Sam
Trojan Nation

Plodder

Brody's Cause
Mo Tom

NA

Lani (I'd say Midpack or Closer)

Looks good CJ. One more classification: Winner

[Bennie]

Come on now. We have to do some of the work.:)

[098poi]

CJ I just made an account at Timeform. Are the free PP's from previous days available? I couldn't find a link. So I'm clear $3.00 for one track or $5.99 for all tracks for a single day?

[o_crunk]

CJ I just made an account at Timeform. Are the free PP's from previous days available? I couldn't find a link. So I'm clear $3.00 for one track or $5.99 for all tracks for a single day?

Here's the free Derby PPs: https://timeformus.com/basicpps/163437/1533470

There's two free races everyday from the home page.

Single cards are $3, entire day's worth of cards $5.99.

For further questions email support@timeformus.com

[098poi]

Here's the free Derby PPs: https://timeformus.com/basicpps/163437/1533470

There's two free races everyday from the home page.

Single cards are $3, entire day's worth of cards $5.99.

For further questions email support@timeformus.com

Thanks!

[Bennie]

098poi - don't know where you hail from but make sure you check out all the info. Here in NJ with NJBets/TVG if you make at least a $2 bet you will get your money refunded the next day from any track you downloaded from the handicapping store. This is for each track but you have to do them separately, not as a package. Also, I see they always have special offers for "new members" and for those who use mobile apps.

[098poi]

Thanks for the update. I live in Mass and use Twinspires. The $6 for a day seems like a good deal to me.