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Longshot
04-17-2016, 05:43 PM
If you are Irad Ortiz Jr and you rode both Shagaf and Whitmore in their last Derby prep race which one do you choose to ride in the Kentucky Derby?

SecretAgentMan
04-17-2016, 06:01 PM
If I were him, I would choose Whitmore.

Spiderman
04-17-2016, 06:03 PM
Shagaf

Huddy Goodjob
04-17-2016, 06:34 PM
If you are Irad Ortiz Jr and you rode both Shagaf and Whitmore in their last Derby prep race which one do you choose to ride in the Kentucky Derby?

He may want to move back to My Man Sam. And we fans of MMS are hoping he does.

EMD4ME
04-17-2016, 06:39 PM
He may want to move back to My Man Sam. And we fans of MMS are hoping he does.

I Agree :ThmbUp:

SecretAgentMan
04-17-2016, 06:50 PM
He may want to move back to My Man Sam. And we fans of MMS are hoping he does.



Yes, I forgot he rides MMS. Also, Leparoux usually gives good horses terrible rides, & after seeing MMS cones in 2nd by 1 1/4 lengths in the Bluegrass, I'm wondering if Ortiz was on him, would he have won.

Leparoux IMO is one of the worst jockeys to have on a horse, & I hope he's not riding MMS in the derby.

Psychotic Parakeet
04-17-2016, 08:22 PM
Between Shagaf and Whitmore?

Both won't make an impact in the Derby, but between the two, Whitmore is faster based on Sartin Methodology.

minethatbird08
04-17-2016, 08:51 PM
Long term it's probably best to take One of Chad Brown's horses.

Huddy Goodjob
04-17-2016, 10:48 PM
Yes, I forgot he rides MMS. Also, Leparoux usually gives good horses terrible rides, & after seeing MMS cones in 2nd by 1 1/4 lengths in the Bluegrass, I'm wondering if Ortiz was on him, would he have won.

Leparoux IMO is one of the worst jockeys to have on a horse, & I hope he's not riding MMS in the derby.

I think he would have. He waiting on that horse too long. See same thing happening at Church Hill. I'm not a fan. Ortiz should jump on the one with the best chance to win, and the other two do not.

For some reason those 3rd place prep finishers rarely wear the roses.

You gotta finish 1st, 2nd, or 4th.

arw629
04-18-2016, 12:48 AM
None of the above

señorclipclop
04-18-2016, 12:07 PM
Between Shagaf and Whitmore?

Both won't make an impact in the Derby, but between the two, Whitmore is faster based on Sartin Methodology.

Too high E%?

Grits
04-20-2016, 11:16 AM
He chose to ride, My Man Sam.

AirNate012
04-20-2016, 11:21 AM
Interesting he chose MMS over Shagaf.

PowerUpPaynter
04-20-2016, 01:02 PM
Interesting he chose MMS over Shagaf.


Probably because Shafag is a turd. Piss poor beyers and terrible Wood Memorial. Might be the easiest toss in the whole field.

AirNate012
04-20-2016, 01:18 PM
Probably because Shafag is a turd. Piss poor beyers and terrible Wood Memorial. Might be the easiest toss in the whole field.

My thoughts exactly! :D

Huddy Goodjob
04-20-2016, 03:27 PM
Probably because Shafag is a turd. Piss poor beyers and terrible Wood Memorial. Might be the easiest toss in the whole field.

He rode Whitmore too.

Fist pumping I got the jock I wanted on MMS.

SecretAgentMan
04-20-2016, 03:54 PM
Ortiz is a perfect fit for MMS, he's a great rider. MMS will be underneath all my tickets.

EMD4ME
04-20-2016, 06:11 PM
Ortiz is a perfect fit for MMS, he's a great rider. MMS will be underneath all my tickets.

I agree. Solid horse to use underneath or even on top. Irad is fantastic at making sure he is NOT the victim at the gate (by making sure he wipes YOU out at the gate). He is patient (as he tries to emulate the great Ramon Dominguez) and the horse looks to me, to not even need pace to rally.

Lemon Drop Husker
04-20-2016, 06:18 PM
Ortiz is a perfect fit for MMS, he's a great rider. MMS will be underneath all my tickets.

Will be nice to see Irad on a horse with an actual chance. His only other Derby mount was Uncle Sigh in 2014.

MMS has to be considered on just about any ticket wagered May 7th.

pondman
04-20-2016, 06:32 PM
If you are Irad Ortiz Jr and you rode both Shagaf and Whitmore in their last Derby prep race which one do you choose to ride in the Kentucky Derby?

He a Super Rock Star, not down playing his talent, but these horses will do nothing. I'd have my agent calling around for another horse.