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ljb
06-26-2004, 07:03 AM
The Bush - Cheney campaign has sunk to a new low. They launched a video clip on their website yesterday titled this not a time for pessmisim and rage. Included in this video are images of Adolph Hitler.
Someone on this board asked why we have no respect for our President I think this type of campaigning explains it.
If you would like to see this disgusting display of low rent scum sucking campaign trash the site is. http://www.georgewbush.com

hcap
06-26-2004, 09:36 AM
ljb,

Saw the clip. The bushies are losing big time. Desperation at the white house. Speaking of Hitler, these are the words of HIS press agent. Sounds like Karl Rove has spent some time researching nazi propaganda, at the foot of the master.

Joseph Goebbels.....

"Whatever may come, we will stand upright through all the storms, working and fighting, filled with faithful confidence in the great historical mission that the Führer has given us. The more it is threatened, the more deeply we feel obligated to it. We are despite it all on the right path. The future will prove that."

Another tidbit.....

"There are no parliamentary parties in Germany any longer. How could we have overcome them had we not waged an educational campaign for years that persuaded people of their weaknesses, harms and disadvantages? Their final elimination was only the result of what the people had already realized. Our propaganda weakened these parties. Based on that, they could be eliminated by a legal act."

New repub campaign slogan......

"bush in 2004, 1984- better late than never."

Tom
06-26-2004, 12:03 PM
Thanks for the link. GREAT site, great video.
This is exactly how Hitler got to power in the 30's-and I think the juxtapostion of the rantings of the left-outs was cool. It was like the bear in the woods commecial that Regean used. It sums up what I thinkg about the libs - they will kill America, destroy freedom, and dilute our nation.
It is time for people to realize just how dangerous the liberal agenda is. And if they don' tlike being compared to Hilter, then they should stop acting like him.
Bring it on.

Secretariat
06-26-2004, 02:08 PM
Tom,

You have just sunk to a new low....C'mon, you really don't support that kind of comparision do you? Well as Cheyney stated to Senatory Leahey while Senate was in session...F**** you*** ....so much for civility...I will pray for him....I hope all Bush's Evangelicals do as well....What a bunch of hypocrites..

And when given the chance to apologize later for his reamrks after his anger subsided...he says NO....

I am telling you this admin will never apologize for anything as we saw at Bush's news conference, and now this....I keep wondering how much they can keep self-destructing themselves and they keep going further than I ever imagined....

kenwoodallpromos
06-26-2004, 02:19 PM
lol.

Secretariat
06-26-2004, 02:24 PM
Now the man has filed complaint with a reporter asking questions in another country:

"The White House has lodged a complaint with the Irish Embassy in Washington over RTE journalist Carole Coleman's interview with US President George Bush."

Let's see we can't file a suit about an HMO ruling anymore, but old George can ask a foreign country to ask a reporter from another nation not to ask difficult questions. He's losing it.
Or as Cheney recently said "F*** you".

Tom
06-26-2004, 02:39 PM
Point of order?
Was that a snit or a coniption?
Th*nk you.

hcap
06-26-2004, 03:05 PM
Joseph Goebbels.....

"Whatever may come, we will stand upright through all the storms, working and fighting, filled with faithful confidence in the great historical mission that the Führer has given us.

Tom can you say zig heil?
Just remember to click your heels.

JustRalph
06-26-2004, 03:09 PM
A snippet..........

On Thursday, the Bush campaign launched a web video titled Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed. The video featured Democrats who support John Kerry making negative and baseless attacks against the President. Interspersed in the video were segments of two ads that appeared on a website sponsored by MoveOn.org - a group campaigning for Kerry - in January.

On Friday night, John Kerry's campaign denounced our use of these ads, and called that use "disgusting."

The Kerry campaign says, "The use of Adolf Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong."

We agree. These ads, like much of the hate-filled, angry rhetoric of Kerry's coalition of the Wild-eyed, are disgusting.

Where was John Kerry's disgust when he hired Zack Exley - the man responsible for encouraging the production of these ads as part of a MoveOn contest - to run the Kerry campaign's internet operation?
Where was John Kerry's sense of outrage when Al Gore, just yesterday afternoon, compared the Bush Administration to the Nazis saying, "The Administration works closely with a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops.'"
Where was John Kerry's anger when Al Gore in May spoke of "Bush's Gulag"?
Why has John Kerry not denounced billionaire and Democrat Party donor George Soros for comparing the Bush Administration to Nazis. Soros stated, "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans. It conjures up memories of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit ('The enemy is listening')."
Why has Kerry not spoken out against filmmaker Michael Moore who last October compared the Patriot Act to Mein Kampf. "The Patriot Act is the first step. 'Mein Kampf' - 'Mein Kampf' was written long before Hitler came to power."

PaceAdvantage
06-26-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by JustRalph
Where was John Kerry's disgust when he hired Zack Exley - the man responsible for encouraging the production of these ads as part of a MoveOn contest - to run the Kerry campaign's internet operation?
Where was John Kerry's sense of outrage when Al Gore, just yesterday afternoon, compared the Bush Administration to the Nazis saying, "The Administration works closely with a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops.'"
Where was John Kerry's anger when Al Gore in May spoke of "Bush's Gulag"?
Why has John Kerry not denounced billionaire and Democrat Party donor George Soros for comparing the Bush Administration to Nazis. Soros stated, "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans. It conjures up memories of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit ('The enemy is listening')."
Why has Kerry not spoken out against filmmaker Michael Moore who last October compared the Patriot Act to Mein Kampf. "The Patriot Act is the first step. 'Mein Kampf' - 'Mein Kampf' was written long before Hitler came to power."


There will be no coherent response to this. They don't like to linger on their hypocritical ways. They just like pointing out the hypocrisy of others.

Lefty
06-27-2004, 12:40 AM
And where was the disgust when Kennedy said that Saddam's torture rooms were open under new mgt; U.S. mgt. He directly compared the torture, killings and rapes of Saddam to the incidents by a few misguided soldiers at abu grhaib. These libs will say anything, make wild comparasins but if Repubs dare answer even partially in kind then they get slammed even more.

Lefty
06-27-2004, 12:49 AM
lbj, what was wrong with the video? It did not show a new low for Republicans it showed what libs have hatefully said about Bush. The images of Hitler was from the moveon.org website sponsored mostly by avowed socialist Geo. Soros. The Hitler was morphed into Bush. These are lows by the Democrats and this video showed how far the Dems will go. It's a new low for Dems not Repubs but I guess you guys just can't stand seeing how low your party has sunk.
And then you libs on the board continue comparing Bush and the Repubs to Nazis. New lows, go look in the mirror...

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
There will be no coherent response to this. They don't like to linger on their hypocritical ways. They just like pointing out the hypocrisy of others.

I endorsed this ad...Did you ever notice that at the end of an ad?

Kerry did not endorse those ads or comments you refer to, just as Bush cannot be taken for task for some idiot remark Senator Trist says on the Senate floor, or Rush says. To attempt to blame Kerry for an ad that Bush endorsed on Bush's own website comparing Kerry to Adolf Hitler becaue Kerry did not speak out against something Gore or Moveon.Org may have said is the height of lunacy. Is Bush responsbile for every remark made by Hannity, or Rush, or FOX News? Of course not. Only an idiot would assume that Bush had to address the free speech rants of those nutcases. And now to assume that Kerry has to address the free speech comments of Gore or Soros is the height of lunacy.

The bottom line is Bush endorsed an ad comparing Kerry to Hitler and posted it on his own website. It's disgusting, stupid, and guess what guys, no matter how hard you try - it isn't Kerry's fault that Bush did that, and know what else - it isn't Bill Clinton's fault either -- when is this man going to accept some accountabiltiy for his continuous blunders... This was Bush's idea and he endorsed it and he is reponsible for it. Jesus, to blame Kerry for Bush posting an ad comparing himself to Hitler and then trying to blame it on the victim of the attack, Kerry, as responsible for it - sometimes I shake my head at some of these responses. I realize this can be a very partisan board, but this is ridiculous.

Suff
06-27-2004, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
There will be no coherent response to this. They don't like to linger on their hypocritical ways. They just like pointing out the hypocrisy of others.

If you think the democrats are ugly now,,, wait till you get a load of us iin sept and October...


we'll have the gloves off. Check out James Michael Curley.


We're going to go ugly on you

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Suff
If you think the democrats are ugly now,,, wait till you get a load of us iin sept and October...


we'll have the gloves off. Check out James Michael Curley.


We're going to go ugly on you


I hope not Suff....there's no need to, and Kerry's doing better just letting Bush open his mouth...these guys are self-exploding themselves....there's no need to do anything, but wait until November....

Suff
06-27-2004, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by Secretariat
I hope not Suff....there's no need to, and Kerry's doing better just letting Bush open his mouth...these guys are self-exploding themselves....there's no need to do anything, but wait until November....

I want them to take on Teddy kennnedy,,, he'll maul them

wes
06-27-2004, 09:07 AM
I want them to take on Teddy kennnedy,,, he'll maul them


AS long as he does not have to cross a bridge.



wes

Tom
06-27-2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by wes
I want them to take on Teddy kennnedy,,, he'll maul them


AS long as he does not have to cross a bridge.



wes

He's OK with bridges nowdays......he floats. Teddy is a floater.:D

Lefty
06-27-2004, 12:16 PM
suff, hard to ble the "nice" libs could get any meaner or sink any lower, but ya know, I agree, I blve they will. That's why i'm a Republican. Bush CAN stand proudly on his record and point out Kerry's record and it's bye bye Kerry and better luck with Hillary on 08.

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Lefty
Bush CAN stand proudly on his record and point out Kerry's record and it's bye bye Kerry and better luck with Hillary on 08.

Hilary's not running in 08, Kerry wil be running for re-election.

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 02:20 PM
I liked Kerry's reaction to Cheyney's profanity:

"If you think Dick Cheney is cursing today, wait until you hear what he says on Nov. 2." ~ John Kerry

ljb
06-27-2004, 02:35 PM
LOL

Tom
06-27-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Secretariat
Hilary's not running in 08, Kerry wil be running for re-election.

You guys aren't in on it I guess.
Better be carefull out there...a lot of people who corssed the Clinton's ended up dead. :eek:

ljb
06-27-2004, 03:32 PM
Tom,
Take a little break, you are grasping here.

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 07:25 PM
The born again Prez can't even apologize for Cheyneys' remarks. God what a hyprocrite.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040627/pl_afp/us_vote_cheney_bush_040627174018

Tom
06-27-2004, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Secretariat
The born again Prez can't even apologize for Cheyneys' remarks. God what a hyprocrite.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040627/pl_afp/us_vote_cheney_bush_040627174018

Why would he apologize for something he didn't say? How is that hypocritical? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Why would he apologize for something he didn't say? How is that hypocritical? I don't think that word means what you think it means.


Let's see if I can make this clear Tom. Uh...the Bush admin denigrates Howard Stern for using profanity and yet somehow its OK for the Bush VP....

He speaks on the family values and leadership, but then shies away from addressing profane speech in a session of Congress...

He is a born again Christian, but sees nothing wrong when his VP curses at a fellow Senator who is simply doing his job and askign questions....

Better reserve that room in the sanitarium Tom because if Kerry wins, you can book yourself.

PaceAdvantage
06-27-2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Secretariat
Let's see if I can make this clear Tom. Uh...the Bush admin denigrates Howard Stern for using profanity and yet somehow its OK for the Bush VP....

He speaks on the family values and leadership, but then shies away from addressing profane speech in a session of Congress...

He is a born again Christian, but sees nothing wrong when his VP curses at a fellow Senator who is simply doing his job and askign questions....

Better reserve that room in the sanitarium Tom because if Kerry wins, you can book yourself.

Are you serious? Really, are you serious? I need to know. Please Private Message me with your reply.

You do realize that whatever Dick Cheney said, it was a PRIVATE CONVERSATION. Right? You DO KNOW THIS? He wasn't ON THE RADIO. He wasn't ON TV. It was in PRIVATE.

Sanity check is needed in aisle one! Sec, you should be first in line.

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 08:45 PM
Frist Won't Criticize Cheney for Cursing

2 hours, 55 minutes ago Add Politics - U. S. Congress to My Yahoo!

By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Majority Leader Bill Frist refused on Sunday to criticize Vice President (news - web sites) Dick Cheney (news - web sites) for cursing on the floor of the Senate in a confrontation with a Democratic senator.

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The action took place on the floor of the Senate. Congress was in session. Cheyney disagreed with Leahy's criticism of Halliburton and his association with them. Leahy responded justifying his position, Instead of acting like a human being Cheyney told Leahy to go F*** himself on the Senate floor in front of other Senators.

Tom
06-27-2004, 08:48 PM
Sec....give it up. Before you hurt yourself. YOU are the only one in snit here.

PaceAdvantage
06-27-2004, 08:53 PM
The conversation was PRIVATE. It had to be RECOUNTED from Leahy aides, it was so PRIVATE:

Congressional aides said the argument occurred just after the photograph was taken. Leahy was mingling on the Republican side of the aisle, they said, when he spotted the vice president, who was included in the picture because of his role as president of the Senate.

Leahy approached Cheney to chat, the aides said. When Cheney recoiled, Leahy made a jocular remark, on the order of, "What, so you won't talk with Democrats?"

The vice president is said to have replied that he did not appreciate Leahy's personal attacks on him. Leahy, in turn, told Cheney he did not appreciate being called "a bad Catholic" -- a reference to Republican accusations that Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee were "anti-Catholic" because they refused to confirm a judicial nominee, William Pryor, who opposed abortion. Leahy is the senior Democrat on the panel.

At that point, the aides said, Cheney turned and stalked away, but not before responding with either the words "f*** you" or "f*** yourself."

A spokesman for the vice president, Kevin Kellums, said, "That doesn't sound like language the vice president would use, but there was a frank exchange of views."

In fact, it was SO PRIVATE, they aren't even sure of the exact words used by the Vice President.

Basically, its hearsay. And even if it is 100% true, it still was a private conversation between two ADULTS. Nothing to get all worked up about, UNLESS you're grasping for soundbytes and working for Kerry.

Secretariat
06-27-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
In fact, it was SO PRIVATE, they aren't even sure of the exact words used by the Vice President.

Basically, its hearsay. And even if it is 100% true, it still was a private conversation between two ADULTS. Nothing to get all worked up about, UNLESS you're grasping for soundbytes and working for Kerry.

How can it be hearsay when Cheyney admitted to it in an interview and said he doesn't apolgize for it.

I'm not going to wear this into the ground, but as you read in the Associated Press article the confrontation took place on the floor of the Senate while it was in session. What you describe as a private confrontation was overheard by numerous others.

Why do you bring Kerry into this? It has nothing to do with him. He probably was out campaigning.

The issue is one of civility, one of hypocrisy, one without remorse, and from an admin that preaches family values and civility.

If Gore had done this in 2000 to a Republican Senator on the floor of the Senate while it was in session, ask yourself if you'd be so forgiving.

Personally, I find it degrading, offensive and not becoming a public official particularly a vice president. Maybe its Ok with you. Fine, it just bugs me when so many conservatives attack libs on decency and morality, curse not only in public, but the floor of the senate (whether Cheney intended it to be a private conversation or not, it obviously wasn't since we all know about it and Leahy is not the one who reported it),

Minimally the man could have admitted he made a poor judgment in the heat of the moment and apolgized. But this adminstration does not apoligize, they keep justifying poor decisions. Granted, this only hurt someone's pride, but to wear it as a badge of honor as Cheney appears to be doing is repugnant.

Post what you want. Justify his actions as you will. I am done with the issue. It's just another occurrence in this admins long list of hubris.

PaceAdvantage
06-27-2004, 09:36 PM
If it was not a private conversation, how did it become an issue in the press. Who reported it? Was it captured on CSPAN? NO

Was it captured by a TV camera crew or an audio recording device? NO

Exactly who was it that overheard these comments? Leahy people? Who reported this "incident"

Why is it newsworthy? Do you honestly believe that no public official ever curses? Give me a break!

Tom
06-27-2004, 10:51 PM
"Personally, I find it degrading, offensive and not becoming a public official particularly a vice president. Maybe its Ok with you. Fine, it just bugs me when so many conservatives attack libs on decency and morality, curse not only in public, but the floor of the senate (whether Cheney intended it to be a private conversation or not, it obviously wasn't since we all know about it and Leahy is not the one who reported it), "

When you grow up, you will understand that things we say and do in private and things we say or do in public are not to the same standards. For example, if I were to meet you in person, I would say one thing, but here on PA's board, which has rules of use, and is open to the general public, I can only say Th*nk you, but you know what I really mean, right?
;)

Lefty
06-27-2004, 11:19 PM
I don't recall Kerry apoligizing for calling the Repubs a bunch of names; instead he tried to cover up. Even Dick Morris says anybody that cusses out Leahy gets a pass because the guy is so despicableo

sq764
06-27-2004, 11:21 PM
Exactly.. If Kerry actually starts to run a campaign, he will get smoked..

His best strategy is to never speak again until after the election.. Otherwise, he is SOL..

ljb
06-28-2004, 12:25 PM
Basically what this boils down to is:
Cheney like Limbaugh is a hypocrit. Nuff said.

Secretariat
06-28-2004, 01:59 PM
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PaceAdvantage
06-28-2004, 02:25 PM
I wonder what kind of cursing will be coming out of the Kerry camp when he loses the election in November?

Lefty
06-28-2004, 02:54 PM
lbj, Leahy is the hypocrite because he approached Cheney in a buddy buddy fashion after all he's said about this adm. Cheyney would have been just as much the hypocrite if he had responded in the buddy-buddy fashion. He said a word that you libs seem to love and defend vigorously, of coyurse unless a Repub says it.
Clinton had sex in the oval office. Libs said it was private none of our bus.
Cheyney says a word in private and libs get upset. lbj, Leahy and you are the hypocrites!

Lefty
06-28-2004, 03:20 PM
sec, your little cartoon another gross innacuracy perpetrated by the left. The word was uttered to an individual during a private moment and not at the american people. As lbj says,(copying me once again)get real.

Tom
06-28-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
I wonder what kind of cursing will be coming out of the Kerry camp when he loses the election in November?
Kerry has already used the F word in publin adn in print. Where is the liberal outrage over this?