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Flysofree
02-26-2016, 01:33 PM
If you are one that hasn't made up their mind and live in a super Tuesday voting state, think about this before voting for Trump.
How would you feel if you owned the property next to his casino and he dragged you through court trying to use "eminent domain" to force you to sell it to him? Yes he finally lost, but what total arrogance and lack of concern for your rights! If you didn't want to sell, but he wouldn't take your "NO" for an answer.
If you are decided on him anyway this will make no difference.

davew
02-26-2016, 01:54 PM
How would you feel if you were unemployed in Atlantic city and got a job working there?

I wonder how many football and baseball stadiums have used eminent domain for part of their parking lots...

By Minneapolis, an entire block was 'eminent domain' bought out so that BEST BUY could make a corporate headquarters.

If someone is will to pay 2 - 3 times market value, I would sell them just about anything....

Stillriledup
02-26-2016, 02:08 PM
If you are one that hasn't made up their mind and live in a super Tuesday voting state, think about this before voting for Trump.
How would you feel if you owned the property next to his casino and he dragged you through court trying to use "eminent domain" to force you to sell it to him? Yes he finally lost, but what total arrogance and lack of concern for your rights! If you didn't want to sell, but he wouldn't take your "NO" for an answer.
If you are decided on him anyway this will make no difference.

You can make up any talking points you want, if Rubio or Cruz owned a casino, they would do the same thing, they would do the same thing any businessman would do, it's a moot point.

The way you make up your mind is ask yourself if you're ok with America being a 'soft' country.

If you like soft, Trumps probably not your guy.

Flysofree
02-26-2016, 02:37 PM
He wonder why it is the IRS audits him every year and not other "rich people".

I wonder if the other rich people declared 4 different bankruptcies.

He's a bully and I'm happy to see it.

Stillriledup
02-26-2016, 02:45 PM
He wonder why it is the IRS audits him every year and not other "rich people".

I wonder if the other rich people declared 4 different bankruptcies.

He's a bully and I'm happy to see it.

If he declared 4 bankruptcies but wasnt a famous person with a big personality, he wouldn't be audited every year.

davew
02-26-2016, 03:55 PM
He wonder why it is the IRS audits him every year and not other "rich people".

I wonder if the other rich people declared 4 different bankruptcies.

He's a bully and I'm happy to see it.


He did not file any personal bankruptcy's - it was all corporations he had ownership in. He shows a picture with 3-4 feet of pages for his latest return.

ebcorde
02-26-2016, 07:06 PM
and they do not allow Independents to vote. Unless they changed it recently.

You Obama haters forget Obama stopped these online fraud schools from stealing the Soldiers education money and tried to stop these online ripoff schools for regular folk. While Rubio was all for it. I guess now that he's on Trump U, he'll ask for GOVERMENT OVERSIGHT. and still be for less government ... of course.


Apr 2012
President Obama Signs Executive Order Supporting Service Members, Veterans, Military Spouses, and Their Families
Summary: President Obama's order is designed to protect veteran education benefits programs and combat unscrupulous practices used by schools to gain access to those benefits.

Nov 2014
Obama Administration Backs Down On Tough Rules Targeting For-Profit Colleges


Rubio in Dec 2015 on for profit online schools
Rubio wants to change accreditation rules to let more vocational schools and online universities take advantage of the roughly $130 billion a year in federal loans and grants — but only if they meet certain benchmarks tied to student outcomes and debt repayment.

MONEY
02-26-2016, 11:03 PM
If you are one that hasn't made up their mind and live in a super Tuesday voting state, think about this before voting for Trump.
How would you feel if you owned the property next to his casino and he dragged you through court trying to use "eminent domain" to force you to sell it to him? Yes he finally lost, but what total arrogance and lack of concern for your rights! If you didn't want to sell, but he wouldn't take your "NO" for an answer.
If you are decided on him anyway this will make no difference.

Even with giant casino hotels dwarfing her crumbling three-story home, Vera Coking refused to sell.

An unlikely player in a real-life game of Monopoly, the feisty widow turned down $1 million at least once for her 30-by-60-foot lot, and now says she wants $3 million.

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-02-25/news/mn-39769_1_trump-plaza

It looks to me like she was trying to outtrump, Trump.
She beat Trump in court using pro bono lawyers that probably gave her bad advice & eventually sold the house for about $600,000.

lamboguy
02-27-2016, 04:07 AM
i don't like Trump, i love him. and its not because i can figure out what his policy's are going to be like when he takes office.

he gets my respect because of his life long resume. he has been up, down and all over the place. he had business's that went bankrupt and survived them.
his campaign so far has been a smashing success. he put a real good qualified candidate who knew the issues backwards and forwards to sleep, Jeb.

the man steps up to the plate and fights back at anyone that try's to destroy him. in short he is very driven.

what i hope for is that he can take his skills to the next level and gets this great country out of the mess its in. it really doesn't matter to me whether he is conservative or liberal, quite frankly i can't figure out which one he is now. what i do know is that he is a lot smarter than myself and all the clowns that are running against him now including Hillary.

tucker6
02-27-2016, 07:33 AM
If nothing else, I enjoy the sheer volume of genuflecting by the left in their attempts to defame the man. The more you cry and moan the more I think you fear he'll win the presidency. And spare us your concern about the country's direction under Trump. Anyone who supports Obama no longer has the right to fret about this country's direction.

Nutz and Boltz
02-27-2016, 07:52 AM
[QUOTE=tucker6]If nothing else, I enjoy the sheer volume of genuflecting by the left in their attempts to defame the man. The more you cry and moan the more I think you fear he'll win the presidency. And spare us your concern about the country's direction under Trump. Anyone who supports Obama no longer has the right to fret about this country's direction.[/QUO


Be afraid...be very afraid :eek: Whichever of these candidates wins.

Shemp Howard
02-27-2016, 08:07 AM
Nobody owns Donald Trump. Nuff said.

onefast99
02-27-2016, 10:05 AM
He wonder why it is the IRS audits him every year and not other "rich people".

I wonder if the other rich people declared 4 different bankruptcies.

He's a bully and I'm happy to see it.
He is a businessman and a very good one, your comment on the taking of ones property to build a casino or further the economic development of a particular area has been done since the dawn of time. If the casinos never came in to AC the town was going to condemn the property and she would end up with nothing. Since the casinos presence increased property values by over 400% in many areas what she ended up with after paying her attorney was a lot of money!

reckless
02-27-2016, 10:13 AM
I abhor Eminent Domain and the fact businessmen such as Donald Trump have immorally bought off local politicians solely to do their dirty work for them.

I don't care if someone bought a house for $25,000 and developers offered $1 million for the property, it still is dead wrong. Someone that has lived a life in a home, raised a family and worked hard to pay off that home should be able to live there in peace for as long as they wish.

They should not be harassed and sued by corrupt local and state agencies under the ruse of business renewal and development.

And make that, especially for the benefit of private industry.

pandy
02-27-2016, 10:13 AM
If you are one that hasn't made up their mind and live in a super Tuesday voting state, think about this before voting for Trump.
How would you feel if you owned the property next to his casino and he dragged you through court trying to use "eminent domain" to force you to sell it to him? Yes he finally lost, but what total arrogance and lack of concern for your rights! If you didn't want to sell, but he wouldn't take your "NO" for an answer.
If you are decided on him anyway this will make no difference.


Both parties are solidly behind eminent domain, bad point.

pandy
02-27-2016, 10:15 AM
He did not file any personal bankruptcy's - it was all corporations he had ownership in. He shows a picture with 3-4 feet of pages for his latest return.


That's correct. He did, however, almost go personally bankrupt in the early 90's savings and loan collapse when he over leveraged his "luxury" properties that he was dealing in back then. He came close to losing a bulk of his net worth, but he was able to put off payments on his loans long enough to survive when the market came back.

onefast99
02-27-2016, 10:26 AM
I abhor Eminent Domain and the fact businessmen such as Donald Trump have immorally bought off local politicians solely to do their dirty work for them.

I don't care if someone bought a house for $25,000 and developers offered $1 million for the property, it still is dead wrong. Someone that has lived a life in a home, raised a family and worked hard to pay off that home should be able to live there in peace for as long as they wish.

They should not be harassed and sued by corrupt local and state agencies under the ruse of business renewal and development.

And make that, especially for the benefit of private industry.
Really? The area was deemed an economic development site, thus the removal of residential homes was a necessity. Due to the arrival of the casinos in AC the property values that were once very low rose significantly. It is called a windfall for those who owned the properties as well as those looking to build on them. Where do you see any payoffs to "local" politicians in AC? Oh that's right because Rubio said it it is true.... You are from Philly go look and see what Harrahs did in Chester to a small residential area that has only enhanced a portion of what was a not so valuable piece of real estate or a very safe area.

burnsy
02-27-2016, 10:45 AM
Be afraid...be very afraid :eek: Whichever of these candidates wins.[/QUOTE]


The voice of reason. This guy is another Obama....maybe worse. He's going to build a wall, get everyone to "get along", make us "great" again and tell the whole world how to behave.......with one arm behind his back. I'll give him this...he's a dreamer. Just like Obama. What's worse is there are millions that believe this crap and its the same as Obamas crap just the reaction from the other side.

But you are right. Look at the other clowns, Its scary that Trump might be the best one. Like so many elections to date. Vote for the "most", "least" qualified. Anyone that's over 40 years old and still believes in this crap is pretty much an idiot.

The truth: Cue up Neil Young, at this rate. Needle and the Damage Done At the rate its going we are close to done. I'm older but I fear for my kids. Its so bad, now Santa Trump is going to change the world...if we only vote for him. Hilarious. Put him in there and lets see what he can do. Lord knows he never tells anyone "how" but like I said, neither did the last guy. How can older people be so gullible? I've been hearing the same crap for 40 years. Am I a cynic? Of course, but you would be a fool not to be at this point.

onefast99
02-27-2016, 11:00 AM
Be afraid...be very afraid :eek: Whichever of these candidates wins.


The voice of reason. This guy is another Obama....maybe worse. He's going to build a wall, get everyone to "get along", make us "great" again and tell the whole world how to behave.......with one arm behind his back. I'll give him this...he's a dreamer. Just like Obama. What's worse is there are millions that believe this crap and its the same as Obamas crap just the reaction from the other side.

But you are right. Look at the other clowns, Its scary that Trump might be the best one. Like so many elections to date. Vote for the "most", "least" qualified. Anyone that's over 40 years old and still believes in this crap is pretty much an idiot.

The truth: Cue up Neil Young, at this rate. Needle and the Damage Done At the rate its going we are close to done. I'm older but I fear for my kids. Its so bad, now Santa Trump is going to change the world...if we only vote for him. Hilarious. Put him in there and lets see what he can do. Lord knows he never tells anyone "how" but like I said, neither did the last guy. How can older people be so gullible? I've been hearing the same crap for 40 years. Am I a cynic? Of course, but you would be a fool not to be at this point.[/QUOTE]
Name one president that has told us how he is going to make things better and actually did something. Most are astonished that someone has finally stood up for the political incorrectness and political favors that has separated Washington DC from the rest of the country. Remember this, Trump will put the right people in place to make the US strong again he has done it for 40 years within his corporations!

reckless
02-27-2016, 11:09 AM
Really? The area was deemed an economic development site, thus the removal of residential homes was a necessity. Due to the arrival of the casinos in AC the property values that were once very low rose significantly. It is called a windfall for those who owned the properties as well as those looking to build on them. Where do you see any payoffs to "local" politicians in AC? Oh that's right because Rubio said it it is true.... You are from Philly go look and see what Harrahs did in Chester to a small residential area that has only enhanced a portion of what was a not so valuable piece of real estate or a very safe area.

I don't know what your point is.... but to have the local governments do the bidding for private developers and industries is abhorent to me. And, I'll forever stand by this, and have.

The only ones who benefited from the garish casino development were the casino/hotel operators and the politicians that took their money -- at least those that didn't wind up in jail, as you might recall, but I don't expect you to.

If you know the historic, horrible and shameful Kelo case, the local government, bought and paid for by Pfizer, destroyed the lives of long time New London, CT. citizens to build a 'research and development' center.

Where were the benefits you suggested? Not in New London, CT., I can tell you. And, by the way, that development and research center was never built there, no growth despite the lies told to the community by Pfizer and those politicians who were there to 'protect' such thievery.

All that never happened. What did happen, sadly, was the precedent set by the 5 liberal judges of the US Supreme court that will forever haunt the citizens of this country.
Property rights, once guaranteed by the US Constitution, was basically destroyed forever, thanks to emiment domain run amok.

PS--onefast... you evidently haven't read, nor understood, any of my dozens and dozens of posts, but you do need to get a clue before you suggest I am carrying water for Marco Rubio.

Nutz and Boltz
02-27-2016, 11:26 AM
[/QUOTE Remember this, Trump will put the right people in place to make the US strong again he has done it for 40 years within his corporations![/QUOTE]

Correction..

He will put the people he thinks are the right ones to make the USA strong again. No guarantees that it will work out. Who can predict what will come of the ideas of his "right people".

Tom
02-27-2016, 11:41 AM
Yeah, look at the collections of incompetent racists OBAMA put in place! :lol:

Look, after Obama, ANYONE will look good.

onefast99
02-27-2016, 11:57 AM
I don't know what your point is.... but to have the local governments do the bidding for private developers and industries is abhorent to me. And, I'll forever stand by this, and have.

The only ones who benefited from the garish casino development were the casino/hotel operators and the politicians that took their money -- at least those that didn't wind up in jail, as you might recall, but I don't expect you to.

If you know the historic, horrible and shameful Kelo case, the local government, bought and paid for by Pfizer, destroyed the lives of long time New London, CT. citizens to build a 'research and development' center.

Where were the benefits you suggested? Not in New London, CT., I can tell you. And, by the way, that development and research center was never built there, no growth despite the lies told to the community by Pfizer and those politicians who were there to 'protect' such thievery.

All that never happened. What did happen, sadly, was the precedent set by the 5 liberal judges of the US Supreme court that will forever haunt the citizens of this country.
Property rights, once guaranteed by the US Constitution, was basically destroyed forever, thanks to emiment domain run amok.

PS--onefast... you evidently haven't read, nor understood, any of my dozens and dozens of posts, but you do need to get a clue before you suggest I am carrying water for Marco Rubio.I have followed the casino industry for 35 years, my sister worked for Sensormatic Electronics Casino security division in Deerfield Beach Fl. I am only commenting on the Rubio comment to Trump he took an older womans property in an eminent domain case for the purpose of expanding his casino. The case was at that time looked at by many as being somewhat shameful on Trumps part for even thinking of moving this 70+ year old woman from a life long home she enjoyed and cherished so much. Well I got a newsflash for you, the home was considered to be a health hazard and Atlantic City began the condemnation process but Trump through his legal team was able to make a substantial offer and convince the woman she needs to move on with her life. I didn't follow Pfizer but that isn't what is being discussed here or at the debate the other night. The benefits to Atlantic City at that time and those who owned and sold and built was unprecedented, just look up the "casino building boom". There is a positive to eminent domain and there are also negatives. I'm a believer if it benefits all involved it should be used, if it benefits no one then it shouldn't.

onefast99
02-27-2016, 11:59 AM
[/QUOTE Remember this, Trump will put the right people in place to make the US strong again he has done it for 40 years within his corporations!

Correction..

He will put the people he thinks are the right ones to make the USA strong again. No guarantees that it will work out. Who can predict what will come of the ideas of his "right people".[/QUOTE]
Guarantees and government? Oil and water.....

Nutz and Boltz
02-27-2016, 12:29 PM
Trump "guarantees" too much. It would be more like it if he said that he would work to make America great again. There are no quick fixes .

PaceAdvantage
02-28-2016, 06:18 PM
He wonder why it is the IRS audits him every year and not other "rich people".

I wonder if the other rich people declared 4 different bankruptcies.

He's a bully and I'm happy to see it.Oh no...he's a bully...how DREADFULLY AWFUL...

Bullies...<shudder>...right up there with child molesters these days I guess.

I don't really care if he's a bully or not. Doesn't bother me in the least.

Tom
02-28-2016, 06:50 PM
Trump "guarantees" too much. It would be more like it if he said that he would work to make America great again. There are no quick fixes .

Hell, just getting Obama out of office is 50% of it!

Nutz and Boltz
02-28-2016, 07:36 PM
Hell, just getting Obama out of office is 50% of it!


That's going to happen on Friday, January 20, 2017 no matter who wins in November. That is the only "guarantee".

Stillriledup
02-28-2016, 08:04 PM
i don't like Trump, i love him. and its not because i can figure out what his policy's are going to be like when he takes office.

he gets my respect because of his life long resume. he has been up, down and all over the place. he had business's that went bankrupt and survived them.
his campaign so far has been a smashing success. he put a real good qualified candidate who knew the issues backwards and forwards to sleep, Jeb.

the man steps up to the plate and fights back at anyone that try's to destroy him. in short he is very driven.

what i hope for is that he can take his skills to the next level and gets this great country out of the mess its in. it really doesn't matter to me whether he is conservative or liberal, quite frankly i can't figure out which one he is now. what i do know is that he is a lot smarter than myself and all the clowns that are running against him now including Hillary.

Truth

zico20
02-28-2016, 09:39 PM
That's going to happen on Friday, January 20, 2017 no matter who wins in November. That is the only "guarantee".

Are you trying to tell me that Obama is not going to try to declare himself king for life and stay in power til he croaks? :D

Nutz and Boltz
02-28-2016, 09:51 PM
Are you trying to tell me that Obama is not going to try to declare himself king for life and stay in power til he croaks? :D

Have you heard something ? :eek: Rumor probably spread by Alex Jones. :D

davew
02-28-2016, 10:37 PM
Have you heard something ? :eek: Rumor probably spread by Alex Jones. :D

Executive order backed up by the attorney general - will be a military coup to overthrow dictatorship ... will be civil unrest in some big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit..

Dahoss2002
02-28-2016, 11:54 PM
The state I live in took, "bought", 1/4 acre of my land earlier this year. Nothing I could do about it. Comparing Trump to the rest of the candidates, Dem. or Rep., he doesn't look too bad. Can you really make a case for one of the others over him?

lamboguy
02-29-2016, 01:26 AM
The state I live in took, "bought", 1/4 acre of my land earlier this year. Nothing I could do about it. Comparing Trump to the rest of the candidates, Dem. or Rep., he doesn't look too bad. Can you really make a case for one of the others over him?Trump is proving every day that he is head and heals over the other republican candidates.

before this election cycle started i thought that both Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton were the most qualified for the job. now only Hillary is standing.

Trump structured a campaign operation to tear down his foes, he has succeeded so far. to me, if a guy can do such a great job in the campaign, i think he will do a good job when he gets the office.

Trump and Clinton are both winning despite the polls claiming they are unfavorable with the people that vote. i have yet to be able to understand what that means.

Greyfox
02-29-2016, 01:47 AM
Trump and Clinton are both winning despite the polls claiming they are unfavorable with the people that vote. i have yet to be able to understand what that means.

It means the others are even less attractive.

Nutz and Boltz
02-29-2016, 07:34 AM
Executive order backed up by the attorney general - will be a military coup to overthrow dictatorship ... will be civil unrest in some big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit..


Thank you for explaining it ....Alex :lol:

Fager Fan
02-29-2016, 08:11 AM
Be afraid...be very afraid :eek: Whichever of these candidates wins.


The voice of reason. This guy is another Obama....maybe worse. He's going to build a wall, get everyone to "get along", make us "great" again and tell the whole world how to behave.......with one arm behind his back. I'll give him this...he's a dreamer. Just like Obama. What's worse is there are millions that believe this crap and its the same as Obamas crap just the reaction from the other side.

But you are right. Look at the other clowns, Its scary that Trump might be the best one. Like so many elections to date. Vote for the "most", "least" qualified. Anyone that's over 40 years old and still believes in this crap is pretty much an idiot.

The truth: Cue up Neil Young, at this rate. Needle and the Damage Done At the rate its going we are close to done. I'm older but I fear for my kids. Its so bad, now Santa Trump is going to change the world...if we only vote for him. Hilarious. Put him in there and lets see what he can do. Lord knows he never tells anyone "how" but like I said, neither did the last guy. How can older people be so gullible? I've been hearing the same crap for 40 years. Am I a cynic? Of course, but you would be a fool not to be at this point.[/QUOTE]

You're so so wrong.

Obama had a social agenda, and he did pretty well in that agenda unfortunately.

Trump has zero social agenda. His entire goal is to make the US sound economically then go back home. He has no career politician aspirations. He won't do things because he's running for the next election the minute he sets foot in office.

I'm more than willing to hand over the largest business in the world to a top businessman and see if he can't make things better including starting to chip away at the unbelievable debt that Obama particularly couldn't give a damn about.

Inner Dirt
02-29-2016, 10:43 AM
Yeah, look at the collections of incompetent racists OBAMA put in place! :lol:

Look, after Obama, ANYONE will look good.

First page of the liberal doctrine says only white people can be racist and if it even appears a black person is racist there is always a way to explain it away.

classhandicapper
02-29-2016, 12:12 PM
Trump has zero social agenda. His entire goal is to make the US sound economically then go back home. He has no career politician aspirations. He won't do things because he's running for the next election the minute he sets foot in office.

Quite honestly, putting us on a sound long term financial path is the only thing that really matters. Everything else that people are worried about will become reality if market forces dictate to our government that it has to make massive cuts to social programs, raise taxes sharply, etc.. and unemployments hits 30%. We will turn into a very large version of Greece. The world can handle a debacle in Greece (as tough as it is on the Greek people). The entire world will go to hell in a handbasket if that day comes to the United States. There is no printing our way out of this mess. A collapsing currency and hyperinflation is just a different form of the same disaster.

If the idiots in power now were doing their jobs on limiting the growth of spending and future promises, securing our border to keep us safe and our safety net programs on budget, not basically inviting terrorist to live among us, making trade deals that do not decimate US workers, and generally being balanced on most other issues, there would be no room for a guy like Trump at the table. Our leadership has created the monster called Trump. And he's coming for THEM like Godzilla came for Tokyo.

Rookies
02-29-2016, 01:02 PM
"I don’t know anything about David Duke. OK?” Trump told host Jake Tapper. “I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.”

Who would be the next American, Foghorn could disavow knowledge of- George Washington? :lol: :lol:

A complete and total, bang the drum, with the big red nose, chicken wire hair and floppy shoes- buffoon!

Clocker
02-29-2016, 01:40 PM
"I don’t know anything about David Duke. OK?” Trump told host Jake Tapper. “I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.”



Sometimes the memory starts to fail when you get old. No big deal, it happens to all of us.

From Time Magazine:

Trump had spoken out about Duke, recognizing him as a Klansman, in 2000 when he decided to end his exploration of a run for president, according to the New York Times. “The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” Trump said at the time. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/ (http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/)

tucker6
02-29-2016, 01:51 PM
"I don’t know anything about David Duke. OK?” Trump told host Jake Tapper. “I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.”

Who would be the next American, Foghorn could disavow knowledge of- George Washington? :lol: :lol:

A complete and total, bang the drum, with the big red nose, chicken wire hair and floppy shoes- buffoon!
I think Trump's view is that this country and position of the presidency has gotten so large and complex that a president should be focused on those few issues most important to the country given that we only have 24 hour days. The CEO (president of USA) of the company only worries about the mail room person being a KKK member if it disrupts the rest of the company (country). At that point, you direct HR or Congress as the case may be to end the matter. The president himself doesn't need to go beyond a statement that he doesn't like inequality.

The truth is that the president himself can only manage several issues effectively, and the rest needs to be delegated. That has been Obama's problem. He stepped into the murky world of social issues and he drowned the rest of his agenda. Social issues should not be front and center on a president's plate unless it disrupts the country. David Duke represents a slowly dying ideology. Why give it any credence or respect with a reply?

woodtoo
02-29-2016, 01:52 PM
"I don’t know anything about David Duke. OK?” Trump told host Jake Tapper. “I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.”

Who would be the next American, Foghorn could disavow knowledge of- George Washington? :lol: :lol:

A complete and total, bang the drum, with the big red nose, chicken wire hair and floppy shoes- buffoon!
Its not like they endorsed each other, or did they?

Stillriledup
02-29-2016, 02:08 PM
The US needs a CEO and not a "president".

The US needs someone who thinks like a businessman and runs the country like a business.

Trumps EGO is so big that he's going to want to be viewed as a great president, he's not beholden to special interest groups which is huge, he can do what he wants vs what others want him to do. Hillary is bought and paid for already, she won't be putting the country first.

Rookies
02-29-2016, 02:14 PM
Social issues should not be front and center on a president's plate unless it disrupts the country. David Duke represents a slowly dying ideology. Why give it any credence or respect with a reply?

Well, it wasn't that he didn't simply say something equivalent to that. As in:" I am not giving that platform any credence, whatsoever."

He said: " I don't know anything about David Duke!" :bang: :bang:

Whaaaaaaaaaat? How long has Duke been around spouting his vile trash?
TWO GENERATIONS? :lol:

If there were 5 known KKK racists known on earth- HE would be #1!

Come on Foghorn Buffoon! Get a grip on reality.

johnhannibalsmith
02-29-2016, 02:21 PM
At this point I think he does these sorts of things almost deliberately. He's already said that he'd have to shoot someone to lose his support. So here has yet another chance to completely drown any media coverage of anyone else in the race without having to do a thing and jumps in the water. Steps out, steps in. And nobody pays any attention to Rubio, Cruz, and the others unless they are commenting on Trump. He does a lot of things that come off as stupid and maybe even insane, but it always gets him all the attention, the sort that money cannot buy, while silencing his rivals. And it never hurts him.

PaceAdvantage
02-29-2016, 03:09 PM
"I don’t know anything about David Duke. OK?” Trump told host Jake Tapper. “I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.”

Who would be the next American, Foghorn could disavow knowledge of- George Washington? :lol: :lol:

A complete and total, bang the drum, with the big red nose, chicken wire hair and floppy shoes- buffoon!You're Canadian, so maybe you don't know.

The Democratic party allowed a former EXALTED CYCLOPS (whatever the **** that means) of the KKK to sit as a US SENATOR from W. Virginia for over FIVE DECADES.

So the next time some lefty wants to bring up Donald Trump and the KKK, first have them answer how the party of HILLARY CLINTON could have allowed such a thing. Apparently, affiliations or endorsements from the KKK JUST DON'T MATTER to the Democrats. So Donald Trump is free and clear on this...Democrats LOVE the KKK...they practically invented the group...and they don't mind elected officials being former members...even former EXALTED CYCLOPSES, whatever the **** that means.

PaceAdvantage
02-29-2016, 03:14 PM
Well, it wasn't that he didn't simply say something equivalent to that. As in:" I am not giving that platform any credence, whatsoever."

He said: " I don't know anything about David Duke!" :bang: :bang:

Whaaaaaaaaaat? How long has Duke been around spouting his vile trash?
TWO GENERATIONS? :lol:

If there were 5 known KKK racists known on earth- HE would be #1!

Come on Foghorn Buffoon! Get a grip on reality.He knows about Duke. He refused to have anything to do with him in 2000, and he denounced him on Friday. Whatever brain-fart of Trump's you happen to be harping on is nothing but a sideshow designed to take him down a notch, which will be nothing but another in a long line of epic fails when it comes to taking Trump down a peg.

And by the way, speaking of the Klan, watch BILL CLINTON, husband of Hillary, JUSTIFY Robert Byrd's KLAN membership....

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Imagine a Republican trying to get away with something like that in the last 10-20 years....would NEVER happen....

Remember, the next time someone brings up Trump and the KKK, all you have to do is invoke the words of another Clinton:

"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"

Tom
02-29-2016, 04:14 PM
Oh, you are good. :D

Rookies
02-29-2016, 04:33 PM
You're Canadian, so maybe you don't know.

The Democratic party allowed a former EXALTED CYCLOPS (whatever the **** that means) of the KKK to sit as a US SENATOR from W. Virginia for over FIVE DECADES.

So the next time some lefty wants to bring up Donald Trump and the KKK, first have them answer how the party of HILLARY CLINTON could have allowed such a thing. Apparently, affiliations or endorsements from the KKK JUST DON'T MATTER to the Democrats. So Donald Trump is free and clear on this...Democrats LOVE the KKK...they practically invented the group...and they don't mind elected officials being former members...even former EXALTED CYCLOPSES, whatever the **** that means.


Uhhh... actually, I do Mike. And I'm not tryimg to embarass you, because it was you who advised me about this point here, about 5+ years ago. The fact is I didn't know about the relationship at the time, nor do I possibly expect you to recall the thousands of posts you have written here.

On Byrd, although he had apologized thousands of times since the issue arose, there is no excuse to have joined in the first place, let alone become one of those bizarre leaders! Just like, when the vast majority of citizens of the Confederacy backed it, a hundred years previous, they did so on the faux canard of states rights. And the primary plank of the states rights policy, was based on the economic system and the desire to continue it- slavery. NOBODY said, well we want to use blacks to pick our cotton and we'll pay them.

Not at all- rather slaves now, slaves forever. Which was the rally cry of the vast majority in the South in the 1960s, prior to the political teams, switching sides, when the Civil Rights Act passed.

As for Trump?

"At this point I think he does these sorts of things almost deliberately. And it never hurts him."

I confess that JHS has a point- one being echoed today across Media. But really, that is the candidacy and campaign strategy of someone running for Dogcatcher, not the Prez of the United States. Does that buffoon actually believe he can later say to Americans:

"Well no. All that Gong Show clown act was just a ruse, to get the nomination. I know all about racist cretins like Duke and I'm not with them, nor have I ever been one. I'll give you a nod & a wink, when I'm telling the truth. "

Trump has believed since he was a little boy, that he could just bully and bellow his way to victory. He simply feels that everything said on his behalf or anything he says, should never, ever be apologized for. All ahead full!

He will find that America is soured on that shit. It will be telling him in November:

"YOU'RE FIRED!"

classhandicapper
02-29-2016, 04:34 PM
The whole David Duke thing makes no sense to me. He disavowed David Duke publicly the previous day in front of the press. It makes no sense that he wouldn't do the same thing the following day. He clearly understood the David Duke part of the question. He repeated David Duke's name. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell he actually sides with the KKK etc... But he sure made a miscalculation when he was weighing simply disavowing them (and perhaps turning off the racist elements down south that like him) vs. turning off the rest of America by refusing to do so.

PaceAdvantage
02-29-2016, 04:38 PM
Maybe he really is crazy like a fox, and believes anything that keeps his name in the headlines, every single day, is a good thing. Keeps the others from getting more free press.

Like you, I didn't understand the DD brain fart over the weekend, when it was clear he disavowed Duke on Friday. Of course, that didn't stop the media from harping on it over the weekend even after he dismissed Duke on Friday. I'm sure they were trying to get him to fart and he did. But maybe he did so on purpose.

classhandicapper
02-29-2016, 04:42 PM
Maybe he really is crazy like a fox, and believes anything that keeps his name in the headlines, every single day, is a good thing. Keeps the others from getting more free press.

Like you, I didn't understand the DD brain fart over the weekend, when it was clear he disavowed Duke on Friday. Of course, that didn't stop the media from harping on it over the weekend even after he dismissed Duke on Friday. I'm sure they were trying to get him to fart and he did. But maybe he did so on purpose.

There's no question there's an all out assault coming from every political direction right now trying to destroy him. So anything he says that can be taken out of context, exaggerated, spun badly etc... to help in that mission will be done. But that was quite a brain fart he managed all on his own. He could be exhausted.

woodtoo
02-29-2016, 05:23 PM
Sadly all they have left is the race card and will harp on it til supertuesday is SuperduperTrumpwednesday.

tucker6
02-29-2016, 05:23 PM
maybe it was his way of ignoring the media for asking the same questions over and over again. Honestly, except for those who will never vote for him anyway, his answer has ZERO meaning and influence on this election.

johnhannibalsmith
02-29-2016, 05:33 PM
...Does that buffoon actually believe he can later say to Americans:

"Well no. All that Gong Show clown act was just a ruse, to get the nomination. I know all about racist cretins like Duke and I'm not with them, nor have I ever been one. I'll give you a nod & a wink, when I'm telling the truth. "

...

Actually, I don't think anyone dares even bring it up later on after the primaries. We saw what happens when Hillary chimes in on his sexism. Wait until she chimes in on this racism. She probably won't. Between her innuendo when campaigning again Obama and some of her past comments about "super predators", I suspect those lines of attacks don't get much play. And if anyone understands the short attention spans of most Americans, it's a reality TV character so I wouldn't bank on people almost pulling the lever and saying 'hey, wait, remember when he said...".

_______
02-29-2016, 06:10 PM
maybe it was his way of ignoring the media for asking the same questions over and over again. Honestly, except for those who will never vote for him anyway, his answer has ZERO meaning and influence on this election.

I disagree with this. I would say that it makes no difference to those who are going to support him regardless as evidenced by the excuse making.

When you have Erick Ericksen and the founder of Hobby Lobby (among many others) stating publicly that they could never vote for Trump, I think it does make a difference.

Trump is going to dominate the Super Tuesday primaries and will ultimately be the nominee. But that is more likely evidence of the fracturing of the Republican coalition and what will eventually be a realignment of party politics then it is any "movement".

We haven't had one of these since the South went from reliably Democratic to reliably Republican between 1968-1980.

I have no idea how any principled conservative could bring themselves to vote for a populist big government guy who plays footsie with racists on national TV but, admittedly, I have been very wrong for very long about this.

barahona44
02-29-2016, 10:05 PM
At this point I think he does these sorts of things almost deliberately. He's already said that he'd have to shoot someone to lose his support. So here has yet another chance to completely drown any media coverage of anyone else in the race without having to do a thing and jumps in the water. Steps out, steps in. And nobody pays any attention to Rubio, Cruz, and the others unless they are commenting on Trump. He does a lot of things that come off as stupid and maybe even insane, but it always gets him all the attention, the sort that money cannot buy, while silencing his rivals. And it never hurts him.
Eventally,it will.
Trump has been under a microscope since winning New Hampshire, when it became obvious that his campagin had traction and he wasn't going away .I think there is little doubt that he will be the nominee since Kasich,Cruz and Rubio are playing the staring game to see who will blink first and drop out and time is running out for the GOP establishment to get behind one candidate.It's not that these revelations individually will hurt Trump,but they do have a cumulative effect and as it becomes clear that it becomes Clinton/Trump, Trump will have to stop the insults and name calling.and start explaining exactly how he's planning to make America great again.

johnhannibalsmith
02-29-2016, 10:14 PM
Eventally,it will.
...

I've been saying that for months. I give up saying it. :D

barahona44
02-29-2016, 10:17 PM
I've been saying that for months. I give up saying it. :D
Okay, I'll carry the torch for you. :)

reckless
03-01-2016, 06:36 AM
Mainstream media is against Trump ... check

GOP 'intellectuals' such as Bill Kristol, Rich Lowry and Eric Ericsson are against Trump ... check

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are all against Trump ... check

Mainstream GOP establishment are against Trump ... check

The Pope is against Trump ... check

China is against Trump ... check

Mexico is against Trump ... check

Charlie Rangel says he will leave the country ... check

Al Sharpton says he will leave the country ... check

Whoopi Goldberg says she will leave the country ... check

Rookies
03-01-2016, 07:09 AM
UPDATED


Mainstream media is against Trump ... check

Add in Brit Hume to this well known list of Commies, who like me, believe Foghorn is the deranged, lead clown thumper on his big bass drum.

GOP 'intellectuals' such as Bill Kristol, Rich Lowry and Eric Ericsson are against Trump ... check

Commies all in stating Foghorn is the Mad Max equivalent to North Korea's nutter on Broke Girls.

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are all against Trump ... check

Snore- As they were against, Bush, McCain, Mittens, etc.

Mainstream GOP establishment are against Trump ... check

The Pope is against Trump ... check

When the Pope wades in, you know a really, loose cannon is afoot.

China is against Trump ... check

Has he slagged them... as in... "Those Chinese work like dogs" yet? Missed it, but likely true. Foghorn will ensure to insukt everyone on earth, before the Campaign's merciful loss."

Mexico is against Trump ... check

Duhhhh!

Charlie Rangel/ Al Sharpton/ Whoopi says he will leave the country ... check

What is the deal with Americans anyway? This is one of those sky is fallin/ boy cries wolf faux tales that has gone on for decades

Foghorn soundly beaten in the General, because the pop makeup is entirely against him- Check!

baldvin
03-01-2016, 07:32 AM
I wonder if the other rich people declared 4 different bankruptcies.
Next time you should think before you speak.

William Hershey went bankrupt 7 times

30 Famous People Who Went Bankrupt (http://www.incomediary.com/went-bankrupt-now-worth-millions)

Stillriledup
03-01-2016, 11:29 AM
Mainstream media is against Trump ... check

GOP 'intellectuals' such as Bill Kristol, Rich Lowry and Eric Ericsson are against Trump ... check

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are all against Trump ... check

Mainstream GOP establishment are against Trump ... check

The Pope is against Trump ... check

China is against Trump ... check

Mexico is against Trump ... check

Charlie Rangel says he will leave the country ... check

Al Sharpton says he will leave the country ... check

Whoopi Goldberg says she will leave the country ... check

If Sharpton will leave the country I'm pretty sure ejecting Trump is the right thing!

Ocala Mike
03-01-2016, 11:35 AM
If Sharpton will leave the country I'm pretty sure ejecting Trump is the right thing!


Well, I'm pretty sure you meant to say "electing," not "ejecting."

Actually, though, ejecting Trump is probably the right thing to do if you want to beat Hillary. Him on top of the ticket could also mean the loss of several Senate seats. Mainstream R's will be staying home in droves on election day.

Stillriledup
03-01-2016, 11:50 AM
Well, I'm pretty sure you meant to say "electing," not "ejecting."

Actually, though, ejecting Trump is probably the right thing to do if you want to beat Hillary. Him on top of the ticket could also mean the loss of several Senate seats. Mainstream R's will be staying home in droves on election day.

Yes, I'm posting on iPhone w autocorrect. :D

OntheRail
03-01-2016, 12:17 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure you meant to say "electing," not "ejecting."

Actually, though, ejecting Trump is probably the right thing to do if you want to beat Hillary. Him on top of the ticket could also mean the loss of several Senate seats. Mainstream R's will be staying home in droves on election day.
BS... anyone with half a brain is not going to set on their hands this election.... when Trump is up against Hillary. President Trump trumps President Clinton at any and every level. Clinton is the ruination of our County... we are at a tripping point... people know this. We need movers and shakers not promise breakers. We don't need more career politicians and we sure as h*ll can't take a Socialist Dem in the Oval Office or that Sanders guy either.

dartman51
03-01-2016, 12:24 PM
I agree with OTR. I, personally can't stand Trump. He's a loud, obnoxious, blowhard. But, if he gets the nomination, I will certainly get out and vote for him in the general. The thought of Bernie Sanders, or Hilary Clinton, in the White House, should be enough to scare ANY rational thinking person, into getting out and voting for Trump.

PaceAdvantage
03-01-2016, 03:13 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure you meant to say "electing," not "ejecting."

Actually, though, ejecting Trump is probably the right thing to do if you want to beat Hillary. Him on top of the ticket could also mean the loss of several Senate seats. Mainstream R's will be staying home in droves on election day.Barring Clinton being indicted and/or arrested, there is nobody on the GOP side of the aisle that can beat her except for Trump. He's the wildest of wild cards, and the ONLY one with a chance.

If you think for one minute that Rubio is going to beat Hillary at this point, you are not living on this planet and witnessing what is happening out there.

And forget about anyone else on the GOP side...not happening.

She would destroy Rubio heads up...I don't care what the polls say.

azeri98
03-01-2016, 06:26 PM
I think he gets screwed out of the nomination at the convention, the party doesn't want him to represent them. They will pick Rubio or 2 time loser Romney to take on Clinton.

Greyfox
03-01-2016, 06:36 PM
I think he gets screwed out of the nomination at the convention, the party doesn't want him to represent them. They will pick Rubio or 2 time loser Romney to take on Clinton.


If that happened, Trump would run as an independent and screw GOP.

azeri98
03-01-2016, 06:48 PM
If that happened, Trump would run as an independent and screw GOP.
I agree he would be pissed and do it out of spite

pandy
03-01-2016, 07:19 PM
Barring Clinton being indicted and/or arrested, there is nobody on the GOP side of the aisle that can beat her except for Trump. He's the wildest of wild cards, and the ONLY one with a chance.

If you think for one minute that Rubio is going to beat Hillary at this point, you are not living on this planet and witnessing what is happening out there.

And forget about anyone else on the GOP side...not happening.

She would destroy Rubio heads up...I don't care what the polls say.

I feel the opposite way, I think Rubio would beat her easily, and Trump may lose to her because of all the nutty things he says, which will play differently in a general election where you need votes from registered independents.

Hillary is obviously damaged goods and she's actually saying that Obama is doing a great job and she will continue in his footsteps, which is a strange strategy. If the Republicans don't win the White House back they are really incompetent.

I hope you're right, though. As a hedge, if Hillary becomes President, I am going to short the market because we could be in for a long overdue bear market and I haven't heard any economic plans from her that take us off the current course, which is heading into a tsunami.

PaceAdvantage
03-02-2016, 02:43 PM
I think Rubio would beat her easily, and Trump may lose to her because of all the nutty things he says, which will play differently in a general election where you need votes from registered independents.How the heck can Rubio beat her without the support of Republicans, let alone some Democrats?

Rubio has ZERO actual support from Republican voters. You can tell this by his 1-14 record or whatever it is. And the 13 times he hasn't won, he is usually sitting in 3rd and sometimes 4th. It's not like every one is like Virginia where he is a close second. He can't beat Trump. He can't beat Cruz. Sometimes he can't even beat Kasich. But somehow, he's going to beat Hillary.

It makes absolutely no sense to me.