Prediction

[Capper Al]

All of a sudden there will be political hedge funds running ads in favor of Donald Trump seemingly from nowhere. There won't be a dime of Donald's money involved. Why? Because of the two anti-Wall Street candidates, who could be bought? The Donald. And what does Wall Street have? Money. In the end Donald will succumb to being a businessman. That's his Achilles heel. Wall Street knows that they can't buy Bernie. They would have to shoot Bernie to get rid of him. Watch for this marriage between Wall Street and Donald soon to come especially if he wins big in South Carolina.

[PaceAdvantage]

We'll revisit this at a later date. Prediction noted.

[Capper Al]

BTW, I am enjoying the primary elections. Both parties, I believe, are benefitting for the many opinions.

[Tom]

Will that Wall Street money be siphoned off from the huge tsunami of dollars that Hillary is surfing in right now? :lol:

[Capper Al]

Will that Wall Street money be siphoned off from the huge tsunami of dollars that Hillary is surfing in right now? :lol:

Wall Street will hedge their bets. Money for both Trump and Hillary under the table.

[Nutz and Boltz]

Wall Street will hedge their bets. Money for both Trump and Hillary under the table.

After all, who is really in charge in this world.

[Stillriledup]

After all, who is really in charge in this world.

Wall st.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Wall Street will hedge their bets. Money for both Trump and Hillary under the table.

I don't see this as a prediction. It's already baked in. Of course they both answer to the same masters.

Are you predicting The Donald's relationship with Wall Street goes public?

[azeri98]

I don't see this as a prediction. It's already baked in. Of course they both answer to the same masters.

Are you predicting The Donald's relationship with Wall Street goes public?
If Bernie is the only one who can't be bought by Wall st, why is he hated so much on this forum? He would need the house and senate to pass anything of consequence, if they don't like what he is doing they can block it. He wants to be Robin Hood where everybody else wants to steal from the poor and middle to give to the rich. The way is has been for many years. Every empire throughout history crumbles after a while because of greed. With Wall st in power its headed that way.

[Capper Al]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman


I never anticipated the anti Trump movement, but the hedge funds are starting to come around. Wall Street will win either way with Donald or Hillary.

[onefast99]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman


I never anticipated the anti Trump movement, but the hedge funds are starting to come around. Wall Street will win either way with Donald or Hillary.You mean transparency? There are many WS issues here for the candidates to kick around like how companies hide their monies in other countries to avoid paying taxes such as the Burger King merger, Apple and Carrier to name a few. Trump has been against the hedge fund managers who also pay little to no taxes on their earnings. Both Bernie and Hillary have also voiced concern for this as well.

[Tom]

Because of the two anti-Wall Street candidates, who could be bought? The Donald.

Earth to Al.
Hillary is already bought and paid for by Wall Street, стена Street, "Great" Wall Street........you could call her a "street" walker.

[Rookies]

If Bernie is the only one who can't be bought by Wall st, why is he hated so much on this forum? y.

:lol: OMG!

You do know the political preference of the (at least) majority of members here don't you?

They don't give a shite that Bernie can't be bought, when he's a SOCIALIST! :rolleyes:

[Tom]

They don't give a shite that Bernie can't be bought, when he's a SOCIALIST!

Which is by far the worse condition.

[barahona44]

You mean transparency? There are many WS issues here for the candidates to kick around like how companies hide their monies in other countries to avoid paying taxes such as the Burger King merger, Apple and Carrier to name a few. Trump has been against the hedge fund managers who also pay little to no taxes on their earnings. Both Bernie and Hillary have also voiced concern for this as well.
The solution to the issues you raise can be solved - by government intervention.
Is that what people want?

[horses4courses]

Which is by far the worse condition.

That says a lot, right there.

Probably the only candidate who can't be bought
by Wall St., yet they wouldn't give him the steam
off their whizz.

The guy only has the interest of the country,
and the working man, at heart. :ThmbUp:

[Tom]

The guy only has the interest of the country,
and the working man, at heart.

I suspect you are right.
Which says a lot about your party, which is doing everything to silence the massive support of your voters. Bernie wins and wins and wins, and every time he wins, your corrupt party gives Hillary more delegates. You guys mix up socialism with fascism.

Come away from the dark side, horsey. Stop drinking the Kommie Kool Aid. Try some nice, refreshing Trump Tea! :lol:

[horses4courses]

I suspect you are right.
Which says a lot about your party, which is doing everything to silence the massive support of your voters. Bernie wins and wins and wins, and every time he wins, your corrupt party gives Hillary more delegates. You guys mix up socialism with fascism.

Come away from the dark side, horsey. Stop drinking the Kommie Kool Aid. Try some nice, refreshing Trump Tea! :lol:

There is one upside for me if Trump wins.
How else can it be proved what a disaster he would be?

If I'm completely wrong, and the guy did a good job,
it would be a win/win - apart from swallowing some pride.

Thinking the chances are remote, and the GOP getting
the large say of SCOTUS appointments, gives me a
severe bout of indigestion. :faint:

[barahona44]

I suspect you are right.
Which says a lot about your party, which is doing everything to silence the massive support of your voters. Bernie wins and wins and wins, and every time he wins, your corrupt party gives Hillary more delegates. You guys mix up socialism with fascism.

Come away from the dark side, horsey. Stop drinking the Kommie Kool Aid. Try some nice, refreshing Trump Tea! :lol:
How you figure?
Clinton has more total votes, has more total delegates, more pledged delegates (the type you EARN in primaries and caucuses), yes, more superdelegates, and more primary and caucus victories.She even leads in coin flips :) . If you convert the states Clinton has won to electoral votes, Bernie is even further behind.He wins states like Idaho and Wyoming, which the Democrats have no hope in hell of winning this fall.

And any "silencing" of Sanders is a tiny, tiny fraction of what the GOP establishment is doing to the Donald.

[davew]

That says a lot, right there.

Probably the only candidate who can't be bought
by Wall St., yet they wouldn't give him the steam
off their whizz.

The guy only has the interest of the country,
and the working man, at heart. :ThmbUp:

If you consider protesting work, then I agree.

[Clocker]

If you consider protesting work, then I agree.

Protesting is work when unions like SEIU hire people to protest. Few on the left see the irony in paying someone $8 an hour to picket McDonalds or WalMart to demand that they pay $15 an hour.

[mostpost]

I suspect you are right.
Which says a lot about your party, which is doing everything to silence the massive support of your voters. Bernie wins and wins and wins, and every time he wins, your corrupt party gives Hillary more delegates. You guys mix up socialism with fascism.

Come away from the dark side, horsey. Stop drinking the Kommie Kool Aid. Try some nice, refreshing Trump Tea! :lol:
You have so much trouble getting things right. First of all, Bernie doesn't win and win and win. Hillary Clinton has won 25 primaries while Bernie has won 18.
Clinton has won 56.20% of the popular vote, but only 54.6% of the delegates. Kind of kills your theory about stealing delegates from Sanders.

[Clocker]

Clinton has won 56.20% of the popular vote, but only 54.6% of the delegates.

Assuming your 56% of the vote for Hillary is correct, she has 61% of the delegates at this point. The Democrats have a high percentage of "super delegates", and Hillary has 522 while Bernie has 39. Superdelegates are members of the party elite, who are chosen and vote without regard to the wishes of the people.

Democracy in action. :rolleyes:

[Capper Al]

My point wasn't to vote for Bernie. It was that Wall Street will win either way in this time of anti-Wall Street. We know Hillary was in Wall Street's debt. Now Trump is too. It's still "BS walks and money talks."

[Capper Al]

Here's my next prediction:

Paul Ryan as VP for Trump.

[Capper Al]

Earth to Al.
Hillary is already bought and paid for by Wall Street, стена Street, "Great" Wall Street........you could call her a "street" walker.

Trump is one of them on Wall Street. It will show more and more if you're looking.

[Capper Al]

Assuming your 56% of the vote for Hillary is correct, she has 61% of the delegates at this point. The Democrats have a high percentage of "super delegates", and Hillary has 522 while Bernie has 39. Superdelegates are members of the party elite, who are chosen and vote without regard to the wishes of the people.

Democracy in action. :rolleyes:

As a Dem, I don't like the super delegates in either party- one man one vote!

[barahona44]

Assuming your 56% of the vote for Hillary is correct, she has 61% of the delegates at this point. The Democrats have a high percentage of "super delegates", and Hillary has 522 while Bernie has 39. Superdelegates are members of the party elite, who are chosen and vote without regard to the wishes of the people.

Democracy in action. :rolleyes:
While it is true the superdelegate issue should be,and probably will be, dealt with as it is too symbolic of the insider politics people are fed up with, Clinton has still won more delegates through the primaries and caucuses (pledged delegates) than the Sandman.

Democracy in action;( :rolleyes: optional.)

[johnhannibalsmith]

Here's my next prediction:

Paul Ryan as VP for Trump.

That's a bold one less than 24 hours after Ryan said publicly he couldn't even support Trump as the GOP nominee.

[Capper Al]

That's a bold one less than 24 hours after Ryan said publicly he couldn't even support Trump as the GOP nominee.

I believe it's partially staged. There is some truth that they have to work out some issues. But that's part of the staging.

[elysiantraveller]

I believe it's partially staged. There is some truth that they have to work out some issues. But that's part of the staging.

I think most would agree, no matter how much they like or dislike his policy, that Paul Ryan is a pretty good dude who wants to do what's best for the country. They may disagree with his ways of achieving it but for the most part his character and integrity are intact.

I feel he knows given this fiasco of a Trump nomination his work is going to lie in keeping the party together... He'll have to stay on as speaker.

[_______]

1) The main difference between the Democratic and Republican methods of selecting pledged delegates is that the Democratic Party process is entirely proportional where Republican's have chosen a system that starts proportional in early states but is some form of winner take all after April 1st. Balancing that, Democrats have a higher proportion of super delegates.

People may not like super delegates but they have never tipped the balance against a candidate with the most delegates won in primaries/caucuses. In 2008, Clinton had most of the super delegates before the primaries started. By the time the primaries were over, Obama had the majority.

2) Paul Ryan is an ACTUAL conservative, not a guy playing a role for the plebes. He not only won't be Trump's VP, I will be surprised if he ever endorses him. His statement yesterday provides cover for his caucus, many of whom face difficult reelection campaigns that aren't helped by a Trump candidacy.

I said months ago that if Trump were the nominee he would have a difficult time finding a name running mate. No one with ambition wants the albatross of being on the ticket with him when they run in 2020. I'll stick with that. His pick is going to be someone no one has heard of. I'll go with obscure congressman.

[Saratoga_Mike]

I said months ago that if Trump were the nominee he would have a difficult time finding a name running mate. No one with ambition wants the albatross of being on the ticket with him when they run in 2020. I'll stick with that. His pick is going to be someone no one has heard of. I'll go with obscure congressman.

I'm not sure. As several posters have said previously, being VP isn't such a bad job. Newt Gingrich would accept the VP slot in a heartbeat. Ditto Chris Christie. And probably lots of others.

[_______]

I'm not sure. As several posters have said previously, being VP isn't such a bad job. Newt Gingrich would accept the VP slot in a heartbeat. Ditto Chris Christie. And probably lots of others.

That assumes the ticket can actually win. I'm not sure what Chris Christie would bring to the ticket. Gingrich could shore up Georgia which if things go totally sideways is the only Deep South state that might be in play for the Democrats. But that would essentially be conceding how much trouble they are in.

[Tom]

I think most would agree, no matter how much they like or dislike his policy, that Paul Ryan is a pretty good dude who wants to do what's best for the country.

If that were true, he would step down from office and go away. :rolleyes:

[_______]

If that were true, he would step down from office and go away. :rolleyes:

Ryan is going to do what he can to cut off the gangrenous limb of the Trump candidacy to save the remains of his caucus.

I'm convinced he wants to run for President in 2020 when everyone here will be pretending they never heard of Donald Trump.

[MutuelClerk]

I believe it's partially staged. There is some truth that they have to work out some issues. But that's part of the staging.

No business like show business. Agree, especially with Ryan as VP.

[Capper Al]

I think most would agree, no matter how much they like or dislike his policy, that Paul Ryan is a pretty good dude who wants to do what's best for the country. They may disagree with his ways of achieving it but for the most part his character and integrity are intact.

I feel he knows given this fiasco of a Trump nomination his work is going to lie in keeping the party together... He'll have to stay on as speaker.

Ryan is a needed voice on Capitol Hill that with my bias would never vote for. That's were I count on the opposition to bring a different point of view into the picture. And then both sides, left and right, need to incorporate these different points of views and act like adults and solve our problems. I doubt it's ever going to happen.

[PaceAdvantage]

I'm convinced he wants to run for President in 2020 when everyone here will be pretending they never heard of Donald Trump.Not me. I've been saying he's a candidate to take seriously for YEARS

[_______]

Ryan has now offered to step down as convention chair. I don't think this is Kabuki. He's not going to endorse Trump and he certainly won't be Trump's VP.

[Capper Al]

Ryan has now offered to step down as convention chair. I don't think this is Kabuki. He's not going to endorse Trump and he certainly won't be Trump's VP.

My prediction might of been premature on Ryan. What's interesting is that as much as he claims to be a libertarian, he's going down fighting for conservative values. Makes one wonder who are we voting for, a conservative or a libertarian?

[Tom]

Makes one wonder who are we voting for, a conservative or a libertarian?

As long as it is not a democrat, it doesn't matter.:cool:

[johnhannibalsmith]

I'm starting to think that maybe Paul Ryan and Rand Paul have merged.

[PaceAdvantage]

Paul Ryan will do what's best for Paul Ryan....if and when Paul Ryan feels it's in his best interests to support Trump, he'll support Trump

[Tom]

Ryan's fishnets and spiked heels are at the cleaners today, for his meeting tomorrow.